"I'm one of sixteen racers, they'd never miss me!" The beginning of the movie literally showed two girls saying Vanellope is the best character in the game that players constantly choose over the other ones. I don't hate this movie because Ralph and Vanellope have a soft spot in my heart, but I do kinda feel it deserves to be hated just because of how inconsistent it is with itself and the first movie.
@@TheSuperCasual2914 Yup. Rich Moore was apparently very passionate about this film to the point where he temporarily halted production. He started working on it shortly after the first movie came out. But in late 2014, production was put on hold when he left to go work on Zootopia. He then resumed production on this film after he finished Zootopia
The whole movie also technically ends by saying that everything Ralph did to try and save Sugar Rush was for nothing, since if Vanellope isn't in the game even though her code is, if people try to choose her and she doesn't show up in the race or if they chose another playable character but Vanellope's car appeared and she didn't, they would consider the game broken and it would eventually be unplugged.
It's also worth noting that Ralph legit didn't know how dangerous the virus he unleashed on Slaughter Race was. He thought it would just make the game glitch out a bit, make it seem scary so Vanellope would leave, but he never wanted to put her in harm's way. Meanwhile, Vanellope clearly knows the danger she's putting her home game in. Sure, Sugar Rush's roster changes daily, but as Nightmare above me said (and as we saw with Ralph in the first movie), as long as a character's code is still in the game, the game will act as if they're there, even if they're not. Her leaving Sugar Rush has doomed the game, and all those residents will permanently be homeless. But sure, movie, tell us how Vanellope is totally the protagonist and how Ralph did a good thing by supporting her decision to go Turbo!
Exactly! Like Mr. Enter said, at least Merida realized just how bad she fucked up and tried to fix it, while Vanellope never gets the slightest hint of a comeuppance, because the movie acts like she’s in the right for doing everything she does.
Oh definitely, it seems Disney isn't fond of Felix or especially Calhoun for some reason. It's like they give them no marketing or exposure and then pretend they're unmarketable when they never tried to market them.
Guess the early 2010's contained a bit more restrain with only a few bits of new technology to be had. By the Late 2010's, so much new technology got people so triply that they needed to showcase them off
Especially with the Disney Princesses. The scene was fine, but it also feels outdated now since Raya joined the lineup, Anna & Elsa got new outfits, and Anna even became queen. And besides the Disney Princesses, it still feels outdated not only because of the references and stuff, but Twitter being referenced is also outdated since it's now called X. A change that that is probably just as bad as the personality changes of Ralph and Vanellope.
It could've been fun to see them interact with the candy kids, Felix wants to baby them or is overwhelmed but Calhoun wants to whip em into shape like mini soldiers. Feels like wasted comedy potential 🤔
There was actually a whole plot B about the two adopting the Candy Crush characters but it was cut due to time. If it was not, then it would have made the Princess Going Turbo look even worse.
What especially pisses me off about the princess scene is who they chose to say those words. Flynn literally died to free you from the controlling witch that kidnapped you as a baby, groomed you your entire life, and would have kept you as a slave till the end of your life. The fact that he magically survived is irrelevant given how he had no way to know that would happen. He could have just let her heal him and walk away. Instead he consciously chose to die than allow Rapunzel to be enslaved. In short, the princess scene not only shits on Wreck It Ralph 1's characters and story, but also the stories it claims to be empowering. I hate this shit.
Yeah, I was pretty pissed at the Princess scene, too. It basically labels all the Disney Princesses as damsels in distress, when ONLY A HANDFUL WERE. Belle actually stood up to the beast when he was acting like a dick, Tiana worked her ass off to achieve her goal, and Mulan saved an ENTIRE COUNTRY. Even with the handful of princesses that were damsels in distress, Snow White, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty were signs of their times. And, as far as Merida is concerned, she realized just how bad she fucked up, and tried to fix it, unlike Vanellope, who never gets the slightest hint of a comeuppance.
Also, Guys, you are misremembering that scene. Rapunzel said, “*do people assume* all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up?”, instead of “*did* all your problems *get* solved because a big strong man showed up?”, To which Vanellope replied, “Yes! *What is up with that?*” The stereotypical princess archetype’s problems *do* get solved because a big strong man shows up. Many people think that ALL of the princesses’ problems get solved as a result a big strong man showing up without even seeing any of their movies!
@Henry the F1 Guy To your first comment: It's almost unbelievable that you can't understand how this movie using Rapunzel as a mouthpiece to imply that the ending to Tanggled (and other stories like it) is sexist is actively shitting on Tangled's and WIR1's endings. Did you not understand that they were implying that said storybeat is sexist? To your second comment: No, we didn't misremember. You're just creating a distinction without a difference here. "Do people assume" and "Did this happen" means the same thing here given the point the scene is trying to make.
To this day, I still don't understand how the writers either didn't realize or didn't care than Vaneloppe would be erased from the MMO the moment the devs noticed her.
The writers and crew purportedly didn't get much creative freedom for this movie and were rushed, so I think it was more of a Disney problem than a crew problem
like, with Ralph and Qbert characters you can argue it's an arcade and their creators are likely dead/retired/they don't care about THAT random arcade. Slaugther Race is a very new game, they're going to realize in about a month
It definitely requires some suspension of disbelief/fan theory on that end. But also at the very least things getting added to an online game do happen. An arcade game suddenly getting a crossover update decades later out of nowhere? I really don't think the 2nd movie is that far off the quality of the first tbh.
"Do people assume all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up?" Okay, I guess we're just going to forget that it was only really the first three Disney Princesses (out of like a dozen I think) who fell into the "damsel in distress" stereotype? And even then, it was really only Snow White and Aurora that were completely dependent on the princes saving them. Cinderella wasn't really _saved_ by her prince if we're being honest. (If anything, it was mostly the Fairy Godmother, a WOMAN, doing that.) And I guess we're going to ignore that Belle was actually smart and willing to stand up to the Beast when he threatened her? Or how Jasmine resisted her father's restistrictions on her and openly resented being seen as a "prize to be won"? Or how Tiana worked her ass off to get what she wanted? Or how Mulan saved an ENTIRE COUNTRY? Hell, in the Little Mermaid, it was _Ariel_ who saved the _Prince_ early on in the story, and that came out all the way back in 1989. Why are we still pretending this "strong independent woman" shit is novel and groundbreaking when Disney itself has been doing it for the past thirty years?
Disney seems to thinks that Mary-Sue characters are the types of characters that should be celebrated by males and females whereas if you look at any universally beloved and iconic male and female characters the ones that are the most beloved and iconic are the ones that works with a team; them going on the heroes journey with each other, and them being the most well written characters.
Vanellope's problems baffle me. She complains about always winning, but for that to be true, the players must always pick her AND be good at the game. The former throws a wrench in her "I'm one of 16 racers and won't be missed" because she's the most popular character in her game. The latter creates the conclusion that the game is too easy, something that Ralph tried to help with at the beginning of the movie by creating a more difficult track, but wasn't smart enough to program the track into the game. The fact that the in-game characters can change the coding of the games means that Vanellope isn't as trapped in her "boring and predictable" game as she claims. All she had to do was reprogram her game to make more challenging tracks and/or rebalance the racers and/or their karts to make the competition harder to beat. The first movie proved that you can tamper with a game's code and even a character's fundamental design (which has some really dark implications when you think about it). Hell, that might've even been a better direction the movie could have taken: the ethos of Vanellope (or someone else on her behalf) reprogramming her friends to make her own life more exciting. But somehow, she never considers the option even though some random MMO character could write Vanellope into their own game's code off-screen. Consistency? What's that? Barring those two, Vanellope wrestling control away from the player is a BIG NO NO and completely destroys the dynamic between the game and the player. She's SUPPOSED to mimic the player's actions regardless of whether she wants to or not, which means if the player is going to win, she has to as well. We spent the entirety of the first movie with Ralph learning to accept it just to turn around in the sequel and say that Venellope doesn't have to? The point was the first movie then? Was Ralph screwed solely because there wasn't a second Ralph to "wreck it" in his absence? Or does the sequel (like a lot of modern movies nowadays) just revel in taking a dump all over the concept of responsibility alongside continuity and nostalgia? I know the writers probably saw the situation as "well, the players didn't complain about Vanellope not being in her arcade game in the first movie, so they wouldn't care if she was gone again". While an argument worth having, it only works in a vaccum because, obviously, the players WOULD notice. The Mario Strikers fandom was up in arms when Daisy didn't make the initial roster of Mario Strikers Battle League. You think they wouldn't notice Vanellope, who is her world's equivalent of Princess Peach, missing? The only reason we didn't hear the players complain about it in the first movie is that it would've spoiled the movie's plot twist, ergo why we barely spent any time on the player side of the world. It's called good story-writing, and it didn't need an explanation because that movie didn't need a sequel. And this wall of text only barely covers Vanellope's motivations. God, this whole movie is a disaster!
It's also worth mentioning about the player complaint issue, Vanellope's absence is implied to have been in place for a while in the first movie, given the memory lock up and Turbo's actions being a shorthand for game hijacking. ot to mention the implied difference in age for the two games Turbotime and Roadblasters looking low-bit like Ralph while Sugar Rush looks full on 3D through the screen in the arcade rather than a pixelated display. It's incredibly likely most of the arcade goers didn't complain about Vanellope's absence because she hadn't been in the game for a while, but as of this film she's been a long-standing presence for 6 years, so disappearing over night would kind of be a major absence people would spot. To bring in another Nintendo analogy: People didn't question the absence of, say, Mewtwo or Marth in Smash 64 before Melee, but once they were in those games and became recognizable for it, people DEFINITELY noticed Mewtwo's exclusion from Brawl. So it's not even like not hearing complaints about her was something a "let this be for the story" thing, there was a logical explanation for why no one asked about Vanellope until Ralph's breaking the rules gave him full context (Players don't know the random racer on the Cabinet is coded in, while most of the game characters who know her probably don't know she's on the cabinet).
Also when you’re relying on your glitch while you’re racing ALL THE TIME, it’s bound to get boring at some point. It’s almost like cheats, sure you win more often but it gets boring over time. She could have stopped abusing her glitch and use it less often if she wanted more unpredictability.
Straight up: Ed, Edd, N Eddy did the 2nd act better. Double D was rightfully pissed at Eddy for making him think that his 2 only friends were gone. Eddy realized what he did when Double D began to walk away and proceeded to break down, admitting his insecurities and leading to them apologizing and making up for it right afterwards. Unlike the rest of the generic bullshit, they made up in under 6 minutes; whereas other movies have the 2 friends split and only come together near the climax.
Yeah it actually worked in Ed Edd n Eddy, the MLP movie is a blatant cliche, but it wasn't horrible you could at least see some motivation of why Twilight lashed out at Pinkie Pie.
Zootopia even did it right too and it doesn't come across as a bad use of the 2nd act end breakup. Judy stated all of what she had as the only facts which understandably upset Nick and the predators causing him to leave her. Heck following Nick abandoning Judy at the police station, a montage of the fallout of her press conference shows us the dangers of her misinterpreted words and she quit out of guilt from her mistakes. Yet she made an effort later to correct her mistakes with the aid of shockers, a man! Yet the film never puts her above Nick and the 2 compliment the other's skills fine.
I feel this movie would've worked if Vanellope slowly realized how selfish she was and being more grateful for her old game, learning what Ralph learned in the first movie. Maybe making things better for the racers, even letting them beat her and take her place as the star of the game. Edit: Just to clarify, I'm actually not against leaving her game, but no one called her out on it or how dangerous is it.
The friendship between them isn't even a redeeming quality because Ralph is scarily clingy and Vanellope is an ass. They're badly written, the plot is badly written, all of this is just unarguably worse than the first movie in every way.
Just The Girl by one hit wonder The Click Five could practically be a song for this movie. Keep in mind it is a song about a man who's constantly longing for a girl who belittles him by laughing at his dreams and once pushed him into a pool. Yet shes bittersweet and keeps him off his feet and he cant stop longing for her. For the record, that is a 2005 song that's suppose to be "romantic" but if you changed the lyrics to be about 2 friends in a crumbling relationship, it could fit this film fine!
Would it have been too much of a hassle for the writers to have had Ralph say he actually Adopted her? I mean Vanellope still doesn’t have a family so instead of her just being a grown man’s friend she would have been his real Daughter, which would make Ralph’s desire to keep their relationship together A LOT more understandable
The one thing that broke the illusion for me was that Ralph and Venellope owed so much money to eBay because they kept bidding higher and higher on their own on the auction. It might be how real-life auction houses work, but that's not how eBay works! eBay lets users put in a maximum bid amount, and the final price only increases if someone else places a bid. Aside from that, to me, the film was just boring, I didn't even notice how flawed the story was because of how dull it was.
They are two separate people shouting different bids. In universe the bidders were represented by a single person standing there. The critique on this movie is beyond forced tbh.
The worst part of this whole movie is that somebody at Disney, in all of their nonsensical family-friendly censorship bullshit, somehow approved this movie as appropriate for children to watch. This movie tells kids that it is perfectly safe to click on ads that tell you you can get rich playing video games. This movie tells kids that it is entirely possible to profit thousands of dollars a day off of making youtube videos. This movie tells kids misinformation about the dark web to make it sound cool and edgy, and ultimately a place that kids will try to go to. I would legitimately not allow any child to watch this movie.
@@DarkTemplarlord technicly im pretty sure that except for the dark web all this is true it just shouldnt be shown to kids untill there old enough to know doing it is a bad idea
Well yeah, it is. All this complaining about Disney not understanding how internet works is just based on not understanding how MOBILE internet works. It's already a securely closed system with all of those "bad actors" that you might fear in dark web (seriously? 12yo's don't install TOR browsers these days) are nothing more than the SAME corporations just like disney who WANT you to click as many ads as possible, indiscriminately. And most people are here for it, they claim otherwise, but how about things like "consumer advocacy" for the freedom to pirate obsolete games? They don't support the freedom to SELL bootleg games, that would be capitalism, but how do pirates get funded? With porn ads. Duh. Said it right here, maybe Disney DOES want computer users to click on Elsa Spider-Man videos, to buy more of THEIR palstic crap with the ad money. It's just like the corporate owned towns cycling through their own currencies, it's not "dangerous to children", it's JOB SECURITY. And Fair Use making THIS video. Exact same shit. Your own snout is deep in the trough.
Esoteric Happy Ending: *Vanellope is happy, but she effectively "went Turbo" to do so, abandoning her game and its people. Meanwhile, Ralph himself is left with one less friend to confide in even if he's happy that she's happy, and she was better off than him when she decided to hang out in someone else's game.*
@@thebrightdiamondtp7871 Turbo literally left his game to rot and destroyed another out of pure jealousy, and proceeded to hijack a third game and brainwash all the characters in it into believing he was their king. Ralph ending up getting the game broken at the start of the movie is a bigger example of the kind of meddling that's explicitly against the rules of the first movie. Vanelope, one character that hadn't even been in the game for ages, being gone to exist in a different game where she won't really even be noticed isn't the same thing at all.
@@Poefred Vanellope's intentions weren't bad either. Doesn't mean that they were good, or okay. Vanellope was being selfish and didnt care about anything else, and got upset at Ralph for not AGREEING with her, and worsened his insecurities.
The "Fallow Your Dreams" or "Empowerment" stories walk a knife's edge before the main character devolves into an entitled piece of crap as is. This film not only fell to those failings, but being a sequel that ignored the morality of the original magnified it ten fold. That's before we get to the treatment of the net itself!
The other issue with empowerment is it has become cliched in really corporate movies. Introducing a strong, independent wahmen who don't need no man is not only nothing new, but you run the risk of the character being a Mary Sue. It's why Ron Stoppable is a more popular character than Kim Possible.
It would make more sense if Vanellope learned that she wasn’t good enough of a racer yet and she needed to work on herself and her friends in her own game and think she should try again later rather than abandon everyone without even saying goodbye
The season 3 episode of Elena of Avalor, “Giant Steps”, deconstructs this trope by having Naomi realize that her responsibilities in Avalor are more important than her needs.
Disagree the ralph clone pile was hot and it did end on a nice note just...stumbled getting there. And cheated so dump on man emitional flaws while vanellopes aren't because empowerment
This movie was such a disappointment. I have no idea why ruining Vanellope and Ralph as characters warranted the light of day - let alone a sequel. Blah.
@Hawkknight97 I mean, yeah. That's what the reason *ALWAYS* boils down to when it came to these subpar sequels that didn't need to exist, money. It's always about the money...
This movie was a huge disappointment for me because I enjoyed the first wreck it Ralph movie. They could cleverly make fun of the Internet but instead, they made it cringe.
To add insult to injury, the original director, or writer, left the film early on so that explains why it feels less like a Wreck-It-Ralph movie and more like an hour long advertisement.
That’s not true. Director Rich Moore returned to direct this film. But production was put on hold in 2014 after he left to go work on Zootopia. He then resumed working on this film once he finished Zootopia
@@superjackster0165 Oh, I thought he left in general. Didn't know he worked on Zootopia. That actually makes this film look worse in my eye and probably damage my love for the first movie on top of it. 🤦♂
To add to the other reply that unfortunately isn't getting enough attention - Rich Moore didn't leave while RBTI was being made, he left Disney a few months after it came out. He made a comment about creative freedom in the interview about his departure, so that adds to suspicions that Ralph Breaks the Internet was taken out of the crew's hands and turned into a Disney commercial against the writers' will I'm not trying to be rude or anything I promise, I just wish people would take a few seconds to Google stuff because there's lots of dumb myths about the Wreck-It Ralph franchise (and others) that get spread by people just repeating misunderstandings
Off topic, but I always found Sgt. Calhoun a curiosity in Wreck it Ralph. They made her an actually pretty likeable tough-girl, and she didnt have any of the baggage and spitefullness characteristic of disney "types' " attempts at tough-girl characters (see Carol Danvers).
@@luckylol Yeah it's probably the third worst of the show behind light's out and that abysmal episode that revealed Jorgen deliberately ruined Crocker's life to easily power up the fairy world.
Ralph literally left his game and almost got all the people in his game homeless for the same reason but now that Vanellope can leave her game she doesn’t want to go back leaving everyone in her game to the same fate that Ralph did originally (But it’s good this time?) Wether or not they get the steering wheel her friends would lose their home when they realize Vanellope is gone so the game is declared out of order and gets unplugged again
I agree, I thought it was passable, decent when I watched it the first time. I think the critics also similarly overrated the film when it came out. Upon thinking more about Ralph Breaks the Internet, it’s a subpar film that shits on Ralph and Vanellope and the whole story of WIR1 in general.
They could have made everyone happy by getting the steering wheel at a decent cost and finding that her game an update along the way: she won’t risk her people being homeless again and she gets new tracks so she isn’t bored with her world anymore It was right there but they decide to beak their universe’s own rules because the protagonists are doing it this time
Oh people wanted (and still want) a Wreck-It Ralph sequel - this just isn't a Wreck-It Ralph sequel since it has nothing to do with the first movie. It's a shame since Wreck-It Ralph has a lot of potential for expansion, much like Toy Story. People have written their own good sequels for it though
You know Ralph and Vanellope’s relationship would have made so much more sense if they had said something about Ralph actually Adopting her in between the events of the movie. It would make so much more sense for Ralph to be so attached to her if they had a father/daughter relationship and it would make total sense if he adopted her as a daughter and his fears would make much more sense that way.
Yeah, when I first watched the movie I thought it wasn't that bad like it was overall okay a 5/10 in general. But then the reviewers came in and pointed out all of real things wrong with this and now I say it's 2/10 for much of a fuck you to anyone who cared about the first movie, Hell even to people with decent tastes.
@@ThomasmemoryscentralThat is very possible, especially since Wreck it Ralph is one of my favorite Disney movies and that reason in of itself led me to believe that the movie isn't all that bad, though it actually very much is.
Same to me. I didn't like the message that much and I thought Ralph get famous too quickly, but it was OK. A 5'5/10. But then, I commented the movies with friends and one of them pointed during hours how selfish is Vanellope. From there, I see more and more mistakes (the princess scene, how idiotic is the internet, how obsessed is Ralph...). Yep, remembering it, it was bad. Researching it was worse. 3/10 movie.
0:42 Literally the only redeeming quality of this movie is that actually let the actresses of the Disney Princesses reprise their roles including Jennifer Hale. That's the only positive thing I can really say about this movie, oh and the Roger Craig Smith Sonic cameo.
I don't think they belittled the princesses either. I don't recall Pocahontas getting lectured for cultural insensitivity or Tiana needing more representation of skin colour
@@jadedheartsz Dude, you are arguing in an outnumbered comment battle and you are not making a big impact. If you want to make a point, make a video about it to add more gasoline into the fire until blood vessels pop.
@@jadedheartsz Explain to me why Minions is successful then, because it has forced, lazy references in place of good characters, an interesting story and funny jokes up the wazoo.
@@jadedheartsz You point out that kids didn’t get the references in Minions yet you used that as an argument for why young children wouldn’t enjoy Ralph Breaks the Internet. Also, considering how often kids are on their devices, they’d probably get more than you think.
And yeah I never liked the Princess scene. I like those movies. Being ashamed of artistic masterpieces because whiners on the internet talk about them is beyond pathetic to me.
Movie : You shouldn't care about what strangers on the internet think of you ! Also the movie : Hey, guys, look, we make fun of fairy tales trope just like you do ! Aren't we so relatable and meta ??
I think the trend of "subverting Old Disney" might also be due to the success of Shrek. Every studio out there tried to copy Shrek's formula, and Disney too decided to jump in on the bandwagon and stick to it, in addition to adopting pop culture references & CGI. The issue is that in 2001, subverting old tales was seen as novel, whereas now it is predictable & self-loathing in Disney's case.
@@kitkatboard Me: Disney your meta jokes got old for me by the time Moana came out with Maui voiced by Dwayne Johnson poked fun at the princess with animal sidekick joke.
@@Thomasmemoryscentral Eh, many people have made jokes about non-Disney characters being possible Disney princesses for a while now. And i like the scene for depicting just how messed up some of the scenarios these girls experienced were. Ariel's an obvious one, and Cinderella was forced to become a slave.
"Do people all assume all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up?" OH, OK Rapunzel. I guess we're just going to forget that Flynn sacrificed his life to cut your hair so you wouldn't be a slave to a witch for the rest of your life. Besides that obviously meant nothing, because your hair is back to normal. I hate Disney.
13:17 Ah yes, because you TOTALLY would have jumped out of your tower and just gone straight towards the lanterns without any knowledge of the path to get there all on your own. Didn’t need any big strong man to help you do that, did you? Ah yes, let’s just completely write Eugene out of Tangled and watch how easily Rapunzel can escape Gothel’s emotional/psychological abuse AND her tower all on her own without any help whatsoever.
One of the first steps to get out of an abusive relationship is to actually realize that it's abusive. With really no other relation to compare it too beside a fucking lizard, Rapunzel would've never gotten out of Gothel's control. She needed a friendship first, or at least someone to tell her it wasn't okay. Doesn't matter that Eugene is a man and a love interest.
Tangled isn’t about a man saving a woman. It’s about two people who just so happened to end up together getting to know each-other and helping the other out in a pinch. It seems the person who wrote that line missed the point.
Honestly the only ones where that argument of ‘big strong men saving them’ only fits to Snow White and Sleeping Beauty (and maybe Jasmine). All the other times, the Princesses either be the ones to save themselves like Mulan or Ariel, or her and the man work together as a team like Rapunzel and Moana.
For those who really like this movie, I totally respect all of your opinions. But... I actually did *not* like this movie at all. Which is a sad shame, because I absolutely loved Wreck-It Ralph. But this movie is awful! Okay, it's not *that* awful, but it's still really bad. When I first watched it, I really *hated* it, but I don't hate it *as* much as I used to, but it's still a really bad movie though.
Same To be honest, I used to like this movie ( I still find the Disney princess jokes funny) But looking back and rewatching the first movie, I can see why this one is terrible
I am at the movie has problems but I didn't really hate it that much as other people there are some things I like about it and somethings I don't I am curious what are some of the problems people have for this movie
Emotional Disney then: Simba has to witness his own father violent death and blamed himself for that Emotional disney now: Ralph reads some mean comments about one stupid ass parody video
They should make a third movie where Shank is revealed to be a villain and won't let Vanellope escape when the developers find her in the game and try to delete her. That would compensate for this awful sequal.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 yeah. I wont deny Wreck Ot Ralph is superior but I still think Frozen is fine. In 2013, it was the best animated feature of the year considering the choices were so lacking. Free Birds? Turbo? Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2? Escape From Planet Earth? Yeah 2013 did contain Epic And The Croods but Frozen clearly won by default with so much lackluster animated features that year
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I apologize if I sound pretentious, but while I've only watch the first Frozen, most of people's criticisms of the sequel are problems I had with the first one. Schafrillas Productions even made a video about the issues with production. One of the most common known early concepts was that Elsa was supposed to be a villain, which PhantomStrider did a video on.
Even though I still like her and understood her perspective Now looking back, yeah Vanellope’s motives in the movie were selfish Btw is it bad that I kinda think it would be cool to see Taffyta (Vanellope’s sugar rush rival) actually beat Vanellope in a race?
That would've made for a better movie then this shit. Maybe that could be the thing that drops Vanellope back down to earth. She wins so much she thinks her game is boring, she attempts to go Turbo from said game, Vanellope and Taffyta have one last race where Taffyta ends up winning due to Vanellope overconfidence and short-sightedness, Vanellope learns that it's not the game's fault she's that broken of a character.
They’d never allow Vanellope to lose to someone else these movies allow her to face no consequences or repercussions for her actions and she can behave like a jerk and get rewarded for it.
@@retrogamer6403 This would be great character development for Taffyta From a cocky bully in the first movie To a cool and confident girl that puts an immature and insecure Vanellope in her place
"Do people assume that all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up?" That's rich coming from a 18-year-old kidnapping victim literally SAVED from a life of slavery by the "big strong man", even richer considering he literally GOT STABBED AND DIED to save her...
The person who wrote that joke obviously didn’t watch Tangled. Nobody who saw that movie though it was about a damsel in distress being saved by “a big strong man.” It was about two people who met by chance and slowly got to know each-other on their journey and helped each-other out in a pinch.
It begs the question of why Wreck-It Ralph even needed a sequel in the first place. Like several other Disney movies with unwanted sequels, such as Bambi, the ending of the movie was rather finite, so there truly was nothing more to say or do.
1st movie: *when any character wants to leave their game* WHAT THE HECK?! why are you going Turbo?! 2nd movie: *when Vanellope gets bored and wants to leave her game* Eh, okay whatever makes you happy. Me: Am I missing something here?
Seriously?!!! Why is this movie Breaking the Rules set up by its PREQUEL?!!! IT'S LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THIS MOVIE DIDN'T EVEN WATCH THE FIRST MOVIE; TO TAKE NOTES IN ORDER TO HAVE THE STORY WORK WITHIN THE PRE-ESTABLISHED RULES SET UP IN THE UNIVERSE OF WIR; Why would they DO this?!!! What Motive did they have for SCREWING UP A MOVIE SO BADLY; THAT IT BREAKS EVERY IN-UNIVERSE RULE THAT THE 1ST MOVIE ESTABLISHED?!!!!!
I sat through completely hating this and just waiting for Taraji P. Henson's character to be a twist villain, but what I saw was worse. So thank you John for tearing this a new one.
There was potential to create a sequel for Wreck it Ralph. People have pointed out many good ideas for an actual sequel. BUT DISNEY JUST COMPLETELY SCREWED IT ALL UP.
So basically this is a movie about highly date-able subjects that was released in 2018, using humor from 2016, whose plot is based on how the internet worked in 2009. Mmmkay.
I’ve mentioned this elsewhere, but you know what I really want to see in an animated feature film? A hero who turns into a villain. Like, we have hero characters now who are so flawed, screwed up, and make so many mistakes that they really can’t be considered good guys anymore. So why not go all in with that and just straight up turn a good guy into a bad guy? Imagine a story where the protagonist starts out as a well-natured good-hearted hero but then pulls a Walter White or Anakin Skywalker and turns into the villain of their own story. To my knowledge this has never been done in an animated film before. There’s a lot of interesting potential there and it would have made movies like this one or Raya and the Last Dragon a lot better imo.
This makes me glad that Dreamworks at the very least can make sequels/threequels/spinoffs (except we DO NOT talk about Shrek the Third) that range from decent to great, but Disney (for the most part except for a few) is TERRIBLE/INCOMPETENT at making sequels.
@@PeruvianPotato tbh Shrek 3 is overhated. Its not that bad imo. Sure it had it's problems but it's nowhere near the worst dreamworks movie. That one goes to Shark tale.
I really dislike how Vanellope just talks shit about Ralph behind his back in the scene with Shank in Slaughter Race, and NEVER apologizes for that. The movie paints Ralph as the one being in the wrong, which may be true in the case that he nearly destroyed the internet over his clingy obsession with keeping Vanellope to himself, but I was extremely annoyed with the fact that Vanellope basically gets away with talking shit about Ralph behind his back AND going Turbo which basically undermines the message of the first film.
Frozen: Anna wants to marry someone she just met (knew for just a few hours, if that). Elsa says "no". Turns out Hans really shouldn't be trusted after all; Elsa was right. Ralph Breaks the Internet: Vanellope wants to live with this stranger she only knew for a couple minutes. Ralph objects, only to learn how "insecure" he was being and letting Vanellope stay with Shank was the "right" thing to do. Both are Disney movies and both even have several of the same people working on them.
There’s something ironic about the sequels to both of those films. In Ralph Breaks The Internet, Vanellope goes Turbo and nobody brings up how that’s exactly what King Candy, the villain in the first movie, did and it was very controversial to the characters. In Frozen 2, Hans has absolutely zero relevance or importance to the plot. Yet, he’s mentioned at least 7 times in that film
Vanellope: I'm one of 16 characters, no one will miss me or even notice I'm gone Gamers at the start of the exact same film: OH YEAH I LOVE VANELLOPE. SHE HAS THE GLITCH, THE BEST ABILITY IN THE GAME. SHE IS SO COOL, THAT VANELLOPE VON SCHWEETZ. THE CHARACTER WITH A CLEAR DISTINCTION I AM VOICING WITH MY WORDS.
"Do people assume all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up?" But.... they did get solved by a man. Specifically for Rapunzel--she wanted to escape the tower to see the floating lights, and a big strong man showed up to help take her there. Then he showed up again when she got kidnapped by Gothel, and stopped her from being trapped for the rest of her life by cutting off all her magic hair. He also reunited her with her birth parents, kinda by accident but still. Even if this point wasn't bullshit on arrival, Rapunzel is like the worst example to use as a mouthpiece for making it lmaoo
Most people aren’t assuming that Rapunzel’s problems were solved by a “big, strong man.” Anyone who actually saw the movie will understand that both Rapunzel and Eugene worked together to get each other out of a jam. That scene is the perfect example of a straw man argument.
@@superjackster0165 Off-topic, My favourite "Raging Enter" moment is probably from the Nutshack video. *IT'S THE NUTSHACK (but every time they say "nutshack" it's Mr Enter's review of The Nutshack)* "Why you little f-!!!"
Also, I just realized. If mordern Mr Enter, quite possibly the calmest version of him, got pissed off at this movie, imagine how his old self would have reacted
Here’s something I kept thinking of: If Ralph and Vanellope need the money so bad, why didn’t they just set up a GoFundMe or something? It’d make more sense than the plot we got. I know some people are saying “But then we wouldn’t have a movie.” Well, maybe that’s a sign that this movie would’ve worked better as a short or maybe a TV special.
EXACTLY. But nope the writers wanted Ralph to floss and do all these other cringe memes that didn’t even pay off at the end for the audience because the memes were already dated by the time the movie came out 🙄
What pisses me off the most is that there is only ONE sugar rush machine in this movie despite that there were TWO in the first movie. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER ONE? Did it break to? Is it for plot convenience?
Probably players/the children was fighting with each other who got the right to choose Vanellope in the race. So after many fights/arguments Mr.Litwak probably removed one machine to stop all fighting and after the players could only play single player mode against computers.
This movie is basically the equivalent of how Wreck-It Ralph and The Emoji Movie would meet and end up having a child, with some bits of Shrek the Third, Cars 2, and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2, all combined into one movie.
The problem is Vanellope is the MAIN CHARACTER of her game. Her face is on the side of the counsel. It would be like if Sonic suddenly disappeared from his game because he got bored of it. It would legit ruin the entire game. Her code doesn't somehow get removed from her game because she left. Her kart and all signs saying she was there would remain because she was a PART of its code. I don't think the writers thought through this whole plan. It's like in Meet the Robinsons When the T-Rex questions how well the bad guy thought through his plan. Vanellope being a good guy also does NOT change the fact she went Turbo. It's the same thing and I see so many people argue it was different when it wasn't. She was the president of her game. She was in charge of a kingdom. The title Princess doesn't change that she basically had Queen responsibilities to the people of her game who she up and abandoned. "I have a big head and little arms. I'm just not sure how well this plan was thought through."
I really hated how the sequel really try to ignore the “going turbo” and everything that happened with King Candy/Turbo himself and how selfish Vaneolpe was. She’s doing the same thing Ralph did in the first movie, but for a more selfish reason, and film wants you to feel like she is in the right for selfishly leaving her game and everyone behind.
At this point, Ralph Breaks The Internet is worse than Cars 2 imo. At least Cars 2 didn’t spit in the face of Cars 1, and at least it was fun to watch. I’ll take Cars 2 over Ralph Breaks Character any day.
Honestly, the only thing I remembered and enjoyed from this movie was the few scenes where Sonic got some dialogue...that's it, nothing more. Edit: Rapunzel: "Do people assume that all your problems got solved because a big strong man helped?" That's real funny coming from you, Rapunzel, considering Flynn was the one who took you outside the tower so you could experience the outside world, which led you to finding out the truth about yourself, and he defeated Mother Gothel when he cut your hair...you have no room to talk!
@@ethanedwards3357 Then again, most of the Sonic games he voiced in had pretty bad storylines to begin with. Only the Sonic Boom cartoon was really enjoyable.
I remember I wrote this movie off because it was just “Disney flexing their “we own everything” muscles” with Ralph and Vanellope. References in the first movie worked because they felt much more natural for a world where video games are alive and interacting. References in the second just feel forced and leaning on the fourth wall. You could tell it was a mistake by all the Disney scenes alone. Ralph deserved a better sequel, but I guess those chances are (unironically) wrecked to kingdom come.
The reason Venelope is so insufferable here is her character wasn't written to have agency. This movie is the old 'Boy and his pet wolf' story. Disney re-used the Good Dinosaur plot for Wreckit Ralph 2.
They were actually planning on doing that during the Experimental Era but it didn’t pan out and they instead went with live action remakes after Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland did really well at the box office.
@@HydraSpectre1138 which is probably for the best. Some characters from the hand-drawn movies I can’t see working in 3D animation. They’d look awkward at best and disturbing at worst. I know someone on RUclips did a 2D to 3D thing for The Lion King, while the remake was being advertised, and, I wasn’t really impressed by the 2D designs in 3D. It looked more like cutscenes from a video game.
@@thomashuffman3237 I wonder why they didn’t just stick with the original plan of re-releasing the films theatrically every seven years. As for remakes, I would love remasters of Pixar’s older films which are the exact same movies, but upgraded with more modern graphics, similar to video game remasters.
Land before time 10 would have done the main character leaves there old friends and home to start a new life better than Ralph, Frozen 2 and Toy Story 4
@@luckylol that movie as well. Angus McRoyale-With-Cheese, the director of this film, should’ve thought more about making a good movie instead of trying not to make a Buzz Lightyear of Star Command movie, making the gay kiss (even though they discussed that sexualizing minors through media is bad), and focusing solely on the pretty visuals. Angus McQuarter-Pounder visited many universities. He visited mine, talking about how great the movie was gonna be, and it turned out bad. Because what’s good about all those fancy visuals if there’s no cohesive story to be found?
@@superjackster0165 "At least that movie didn't misportray every character completely". Just look at the ending to see how much they massacred Woody's personality
It was a dumb idea for her to stay since slaughter race is continually updated so the programmers will see her code and character model and think wtf and most likely delete it which will kill her
A Wreck it Ralph sequel could’ve been much much better. They should’ve kept the movie in the Arcade. They could’ve had a big video game crossover with lots of video game characters that have been in arcades like Sonic, Mario, PAC-MAN, Halo, etc. It would’ve made far more sense for a movie about VIDEO GAMES to have a big crossover with VIDEO GAME characters owned by VIDEO GAME companies.
@@gl1tchygreml1n Yeah. But no. Disney chose to sell out to a bunch of companies which are not video game companies at all. Companies like Google, RUclips, Facebook/Meta, Twitter, Instagram, etc. I think even MySpace was in the movie. The companies they should have gave big roles to are actual video game companies like Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, Namco, Ubisoft, etc. They could’ve interacted more with characters from game series that have had arcade games like Sonic, Mario, PAC-MAN, Halo, etc.
I would've loved to see how other arcade games such as Dark Escape 4D, Halo Fireteam Raven, Time Crisis 5, Centipede Chaos, Jurassic Park(1994 or 2015 versions of the arcade game), Final Fantasy 7, etc would've looked like in the world of Wreck It Ralph ngl.
Thank you for tearing into this movie, its baffleing how no one who worked on this understood the lesson of the first one or respected any of the characters used in this. (besides maybe Sonic)
I was so looking forward to this video and you tearing into this movie. I saw the first Wreck It Ralph when it came out and I was astounded and captivated by the emotionally and character driven story. The story was fantastic, the characters all had a purpose and had set motivations, the plot twist was really well done, and the music was fantastic. When I heard a sequel was announced, I had doubts mostly considering the fact that this movie has a concept that I think wouldn’t do well for a sequel. The story and setting is unique and the first movie covered it perfectly. It seemed difficult knowing where to go from there. I’m so glad I never saw this full movie. I only watched the CinemaSins, Schaffrillas Productions review, and this one. It’s baffling and aggravating how different these characters are and how much mindless product placement there is. This sequel forgets all the morals and story points from the first movie and things just happen because the plot demands it to. Ralph and Vanellope are so out of character, it feels like a Disney product placement film with these character models just inserted. The fact that it ends with Vanellope going turbo, the biggest risk to arcade games in the first movie, is just unbelievably unfathomable and moronic. It alone explains the problems with this film. I never want to watch this full movie, They never should have made this, but I forgot, Disney wants that money.
I never saw this movie when it came, but every time I saw a trailer for it back in 2018, I kept saying to myself "this looks like they just took some generic kids' movie and slapped Ralph and Vanellope on it for marketing value". Man, I hate being right...
Why the hell did they need to go The Internet? They already introduced us to an immersive, wonderful world in the first movie: THE ARCADE! Why couldn't we spend time in the other games' worlds and characters we were breifly introduced in the first movie. Its called WORLD BUILDING!
Has nobody else noticed a major error? In the first movie, the Sugar Rush game is shown being a double console game with two steering wheels and two seats. In this movie the game is a completely different console: standing version with only one steering wheel. There is no mention of this console change, of the game being unplugged and replaced.
Ralph 2 where the movie has more cameos we wanted in the first one instead of a bait and switch but little to no story basically like a kid who break a vase and replaces it himself. Sad too as I did like some of the concepts they did but not the execution
Imagine you’re playing GTA and suddenly strawberry shortcake passed you by in a strawberrymobile, and it’s treated like a valid part of the world. That’s what vanellope in slaughter race is like.
@@woobgamer5210 True, but they're just programmed video game characters who learned to have their own intelligence, one who used to be an outcast villian their whole life who definitely has attachment issues after finally having friends for once, and one who has spent the first part of their life as an outcast who couldn't race and the second part only racing the same tracks over and over, they would definitely not be good people irl, but they're examples of what to do and not do in real relationships, the fact that age between friends is seen as an issue is just a testament to how fucked up our world is, but in their video game world they don't see each other for their ages at all in terms of platonic friendship
@@Matthew.Niverse fair but it's still creepy. The first movie pretty much negated all the creepy vibes because it was just the two of them working towards a common goal and forming a friendship. Ralph works more as an uncle or guardian to vanellope in the first film. And since his whole shtick is wanting to be a hero, he goes out on a whim and is willing to sacrifice himself for her. In Ralph breaks the internet, Ralph acts like he has a crush on her, which is just weird
@@Matthew.Niverse buddy, you just cracked the code! Although I would replace platonic relationship with just friendship, as not too many people would get what platonic means right away.
16:34 not only did Vanellope get rewarded for leaving her game, but her own game will probably still get unplugged and removed, since she's not in the game anymore and if people try chose her character since her code is still in Sugar Rush and she doesn't appear, they might think that the game is acting up just like it did with Ralph's game. And then someone would have to come see what's wrong with it and if they can't fix the problem then the game would be unplugged, leaving the game where it was at the beginning of the film, leaving all of the Sugar Rush characters without a home, which also would mean that they could be in danger if they die in any other game, so mostly Vanellope made the entire movie completely pointless and the actual reason why her game will be gone is because of her.
@@locomotivetrainstation6053 ... Makes you wonder WHY again Ralph decided let a dangerous virus into a video game. Oh, yeah, to make a game BORING that could potentially leave those game characters homeless until their game is fixed, not to mention could've killed your best friend...man, I hate this movie!
@@locomotivetrainstation6053apparently in the ending shank “coded vanelope into slaughter race so she can respawn there”. That just makes zero sense. It’s not like she has any cool hacking powers like turbo.
Does Sugar Rush need a leader? I kind of think it can function without Vanellope...for a few weeks before anyone playing the game or Mr. Litwak begins to notice her absence.
@adamkalb1 Sugar Rush always had Vanellope as Queen. It wasn't until Turbo hijacked the game, erased their memories, and pretty much ousted her as Queen so he could usurp the throne and declare himself as their king.
The first movie is one of my favorites from Disney and was an obsession of mine during 2012-2014, I eagerly awaited its sequel for so many years that my disappointment was immeasurable when it came out
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"I'm one of sixteen racers, they'd never miss me!"
The beginning of the movie literally showed two girls saying Vanellope is the best character in the game that players constantly choose over the other ones.
I don't hate this movie because Ralph and Vanellope have a soft spot in my heart, but I do kinda feel it deserves to be hated just because of how inconsistent it is with itself and the first movie.
It’s almost as if they don’t see the first movie, or they don’t care anymore.
@@TheSuperCasual2914 They probably just didn’t care. This movie was made by the same people who made the first film
@@superjackster0165 Aw man! That’s even worse! I would expect this from the Disney execs, but not the guys who made the film.
@@TheSuperCasual2914 Yup. Rich Moore was apparently very passionate about this film to the point where he temporarily halted production. He started working on it shortly after the first movie came out. But in late 2014, production was put on hold when he left to go work on Zootopia. He then resumed production on this film after he finished Zootopia
People always say the most insane things when they're mad
My bigest problem with the movie is how the entire movie put all the blame on Ralph but vanellope was also in the wrong.
Agreed. It’s like the movie only wants us to side with Vanellope
And what she ended up doing was easily worse than what he did. She literally went turbo and abandoned her people and game.
The whole movie also technically ends by saying that everything Ralph did to try and save Sugar Rush was for nothing, since if Vanellope isn't in the game even though her code is, if people try to choose her and she doesn't show up in the race or if they chose another playable character but Vanellope's car appeared and she didn't, they would consider the game broken and it would eventually be unplugged.
It's also worth noting that Ralph legit didn't know how dangerous the virus he unleashed on Slaughter Race was. He thought it would just make the game glitch out a bit, make it seem scary so Vanellope would leave, but he never wanted to put her in harm's way.
Meanwhile, Vanellope clearly knows the danger she's putting her home game in. Sure, Sugar Rush's roster changes daily, but as Nightmare above me said (and as we saw with Ralph in the first movie), as long as a character's code is still in the game, the game will act as if they're there, even if they're not. Her leaving Sugar Rush has doomed the game, and all those residents will permanently be homeless. But sure, movie, tell us how Vanellope is totally the protagonist and how Ralph did a good thing by supporting her decision to go Turbo!
Exactly! Like Mr. Enter said, at least Merida realized just how bad she fucked up and tried to fix it, while Vanellope never gets the slightest hint of a comeuppance, because the movie acts like she’s in the right for doing everything she does.
I am beyond disappointed that there wasn't even a Disney+ short about Felix and Calhoun adopting the Sugar Rush kids.
Oh definitely, it seems Disney isn't fond of Felix or especially Calhoun for some reason. It's like they give them no marketing or exposure and then pretend they're unmarketable when they never tried to market them.
I would LOVE to see that.
A Wreck-It Ralph short!? NOW That would have been interesting 🤔!
@@fishdude2954 has something to do with the first film?
It’s a shame. Felix and Calhoun (or Hero’s Cuties) were some of my favorite parts of both of those movies.
It’s crazy how the original Wreck-It-Ralph doesn’t feel like it aged at all while the sequel already feels outdated not even 4 years later
Guess the early 2010's contained a bit more restrain with only a few bits of new technology to be had.
By the Late 2010's, so much new technology got people so triply that they needed to showcase them off
@@Thomasmemoryscentral It's not the technology they're talking about, it's the cultural stuff.
Especially with the Disney Princesses. The scene was fine, but it also feels outdated now since Raya joined the lineup, Anna & Elsa got new outfits, and Anna even became queen. And besides the Disney Princesses, it still feels outdated not only because of the references and stuff, but Twitter being referenced is also outdated since it's now called X. A change that that is probably just as bad as the personality changes of Ralph and Vanellope.
I’m struggling to believe this movie and the first movie had the same writers.
@@sonicfan9144nah they're doppelgangers, if anyone asks
It’s odd how Felix and Calhoun who were important side characters in the first one barely had any screen time or relevance to the plot in this movie.
It could've been fun to see them interact with the candy kids, Felix wants to baby them or is overwhelmed but Calhoun wants to whip em into shape like mini soldiers. Feels like wasted comedy potential 🤔
Eh kinda the standard in sequels, one or two characters will have a big role and all the other ones get sidelined, look at Kristof
@@albatross4920 right?
That’s typically what happens now with Pixar sequels
There was actually a whole plot B about the two adopting the Candy Crush characters but it was cut due to time.
If it was not, then it would have made the Princess Going Turbo look even worse.
What especially pisses me off about the princess scene is who they chose to say those words. Flynn literally died to free you from the controlling witch that kidnapped you as a baby, groomed you your entire life, and would have kept you as a slave till the end of your life. The fact that he magically survived is irrelevant given how he had no way to know that would happen. He could have just let her heal him and walk away. Instead he consciously chose to die than allow Rapunzel to be enslaved.
In short, the princess scene not only shits on Wreck It Ralph 1's characters and story, but also the stories it claims to be empowering. I hate this shit.
Yeah, I was pretty pissed at the Princess scene, too. It basically labels all the Disney Princesses as damsels in distress, when ONLY A HANDFUL WERE. Belle actually stood up to the beast when he was acting like a dick, Tiana worked her ass off to achieve her goal, and Mulan saved an ENTIRE COUNTRY. Even with the handful of princesses that were damsels in distress, Snow White, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty were signs of their times. And, as far as Merida is concerned, she realized just how bad she fucked up, and tried to fix it, unlike Vanellope, who never gets the slightest hint of a comeuppance.
Wait how is it shitting on WIR1’s characters and story?
Also, Guys, you are misremembering that scene. Rapunzel said, “*do people assume* all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up?”, instead of “*did* all your problems *get* solved because a big strong man showed up?”, To which Vanellope replied, “Yes! *What is up with that?*” The stereotypical princess archetype’s problems *do* get solved because a big strong man shows up. Many people think that ALL of the princesses’ problems get solved as a result a big strong man showing up without even seeing any of their movies!
@Henry the F1 Guy To your first comment: It's almost unbelievable that you can't understand how this movie using Rapunzel as a mouthpiece to imply that the ending to Tanggled (and other stories like it) is sexist is actively shitting on Tangled's and WIR1's endings. Did you not understand that they were implying that said storybeat is sexist?
To your second comment: No, we didn't misremember. You're just creating a distinction without a difference here. "Do people assume" and "Did this happen" means the same thing here given the point the scene is trying to make.
@@AlphaOmega1237 I wasn’t trying to create a distinction, I didn’t know. Now I do know.
To this day, I still don't understand how the writers either didn't realize or didn't care than Vaneloppe would be erased from the MMO the moment the devs noticed her.
The writers and crew purportedly didn't get much creative freedom for this movie and were rushed, so I think it was more of a Disney problem than a crew problem
like, with Ralph and Qbert characters you can argue it's an arcade and their creators are likely dead/retired/they don't care about THAT random arcade. Slaugther Race is a very new game, they're going to realize in about a month
@@fishdude2954 Did Disney even WATCH Wreck It Ralph before greenlighting the sequel, or did they not care?
@@jacindaellison3363 it's modern day entertainment so its always not caring, that would impy industries know and care about art
It definitely requires some suspension of disbelief/fan theory on that end. But also at the very least things getting added to an online game do happen. An arcade game suddenly getting a crossover update decades later out of nowhere? I really don't think the 2nd movie is that far off the quality of the first tbh.
"Do people assume all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up?"
Okay, I guess we're just going to forget that it was only really the first three Disney Princesses (out of like a dozen I think) who fell into the "damsel in distress" stereotype? And even then, it was really only Snow White and Aurora that were completely dependent on the princes saving them. Cinderella wasn't really _saved_ by her prince if we're being honest. (If anything, it was mostly the Fairy Godmother, a WOMAN, doing that.)
And I guess we're going to ignore that Belle was actually smart and willing to stand up to the Beast when he threatened her? Or how Jasmine resisted her father's restistrictions on her and openly resented being seen as a "prize to be won"? Or how Tiana worked her ass off to get what she wanted? Or how Mulan saved an ENTIRE COUNTRY? Hell, in the Little Mermaid, it was _Ariel_ who saved the _Prince_ early on in the story, and that came out all the way back in 1989.
Why are we still pretending this "strong independent woman" shit is novel and groundbreaking when Disney itself has been doing it for the past thirty years?
Blatantly disrespecting source material to try and appeal to the surface level woke crowd
Most scummy, shameless way of trying to win favor
*applause*
Disney seems to thinks that Mary-Sue characters are the types of characters that should be celebrated by males and females whereas if you look at any universally beloved and iconic male and female characters the ones that are the most beloved and iconic are the ones that works with a team; them going on the heroes journey with each other, and them being the most well written characters.
They're pretending they're ground breaking because they think the audience has a goldfish attention span
Disney was pandering to Buzzfeed feminism “Disney is bad actually” articles from fucking 2011.
Vanellope's problems baffle me. She complains about always winning, but for that to be true, the players must always pick her AND be good at the game. The former throws a wrench in her "I'm one of 16 racers and won't be missed" because she's the most popular character in her game. The latter creates the conclusion that the game is too easy, something that Ralph tried to help with at the beginning of the movie by creating a more difficult track, but wasn't smart enough to program the track into the game.
The fact that the in-game characters can change the coding of the games means that Vanellope isn't as trapped in her "boring and predictable" game as she claims. All she had to do was reprogram her game to make more challenging tracks and/or rebalance the racers and/or their karts to make the competition harder to beat. The first movie proved that you can tamper with a game's code and even a character's fundamental design (which has some really dark implications when you think about it). Hell, that might've even been a better direction the movie could have taken: the ethos of Vanellope (or someone else on her behalf) reprogramming her friends to make her own life more exciting. But somehow, she never considers the option even though some random MMO character could write Vanellope into their own game's code off-screen. Consistency? What's that?
Barring those two, Vanellope wrestling control away from the player is a BIG NO NO and completely destroys the dynamic between the game and the player. She's SUPPOSED to mimic the player's actions regardless of whether she wants to or not, which means if the player is going to win, she has to as well. We spent the entirety of the first movie with Ralph learning to accept it just to turn around in the sequel and say that Venellope doesn't have to? The point was the first movie then? Was Ralph screwed solely because there wasn't a second Ralph to "wreck it" in his absence? Or does the sequel (like a lot of modern movies nowadays) just revel in taking a dump all over the concept of responsibility alongside continuity and nostalgia?
I know the writers probably saw the situation as "well, the players didn't complain about Vanellope not being in her arcade game in the first movie, so they wouldn't care if she was gone again". While an argument worth having, it only works in a vaccum because, obviously, the players WOULD notice. The Mario Strikers fandom was up in arms when Daisy didn't make the initial roster of Mario Strikers Battle League. You think they wouldn't notice Vanellope, who is her world's equivalent of Princess Peach, missing? The only reason we didn't hear the players complain about it in the first movie is that it would've spoiled the movie's plot twist, ergo why we barely spent any time on the player side of the world. It's called good story-writing, and it didn't need an explanation because that movie didn't need a sequel.
And this wall of text only barely covers Vanellope's motivations. God, this whole movie is a disaster!
even in that game (whatever is called, i don't care) she has AT LEAST to give her best to win
It's also worth mentioning about the player complaint issue, Vanellope's absence is implied to have been in place for a while in the first movie, given the memory lock up and Turbo's actions being a shorthand for game hijacking. ot to mention the implied difference in age for the two games Turbotime and Roadblasters looking low-bit like Ralph while Sugar Rush looks full on 3D through the screen in the arcade rather than a pixelated display.
It's incredibly likely most of the arcade goers didn't complain about Vanellope's absence because she hadn't been in the game for a while, but as of this film she's been a long-standing presence for 6 years, so disappearing over night would kind of be a major absence people would spot. To bring in another Nintendo analogy: People didn't question the absence of, say, Mewtwo or Marth in Smash 64 before Melee, but once they were in those games and became recognizable for it, people DEFINITELY noticed Mewtwo's exclusion from Brawl.
So it's not even like not hearing complaints about her was something a "let this be for the story" thing, there was a logical explanation for why no one asked about Vanellope until Ralph's breaking the rules gave him full context (Players don't know the random racer on the Cabinet is coded in, while most of the game characters who know her probably don't know she's on the cabinet).
Also when you’re relying on your glitch while you’re racing ALL THE TIME, it’s bound to get boring at some point. It’s almost like cheats, sure you win more often but it gets boring over time. She could have stopped abusing her glitch and use it less often if she wanted more unpredictability.
I even thought maybe during after hours she can go and do slaughter racer and then whenever the arcade opens up, she just has to return to her game
Straight up:
Ed, Edd, N Eddy did the 2nd act better. Double D was rightfully pissed at Eddy for making him think that his 2 only friends were gone. Eddy realized what he did when Double D began to walk away and proceeded to break down, admitting his insecurities and leading to them apologizing and making up for it right afterwards.
Unlike the rest of the generic bullshit, they made up in under 6 minutes; whereas other movies have the 2 friends split and only come together near the climax.
This cliche just needs to die.
There’s barely any relatability in it and… ITS BORING AND POINTLESS AS HELL!!!!
Yeah it actually worked in Ed Edd n Eddy, the MLP movie is a blatant cliche, but it wasn't horrible you could at least see some motivation of why Twilight lashed out at Pinkie Pie.
Zootopia even did it right too and it doesn't come across as a bad use of the 2nd act end breakup. Judy stated all of what she had as the only facts which understandably upset Nick and the predators causing him to leave her.
Heck following Nick abandoning Judy at the police station, a montage of the fallout of her press conference shows us the dangers of her misinterpreted words and she quit out of guilt from her mistakes.
Yet she made an effort later to correct her mistakes with the aid of shockers, a man! Yet the film never puts her above Nick and the 2 compliment the other's skills fine.
Yeah, I didn't agree with that being brought up as a bad version of the 3rd act breakup
I thought he said he liked how it was done in the Teen Titans Go movie.
I feel this movie would've worked if Vanellope slowly realized how selfish she was and being more grateful for her old game, learning what Ralph learned in the first movie. Maybe making things better for the racers, even letting them beat her and take her place as the star of the game.
Edit: Just to clarify, I'm actually not against leaving her game, but no one called her out on it or how dangerous is it.
@@jadedheartsz Please tell me you're trolling.
Ohhh, another tantrum argument going here.
Jackson, you are included too.
I disagree. She abandoned her friends without even telling most of them just for some game that's not even very good. She was being selfish to me.
@@leesydreamy
Don't forget Arthur the Insecurity Virus who was forgotten at the end of the movie.
@@jadedheartsz Oh yeah? How wasn’t she selfish? Huh?
The friendship between them isn't even a redeeming quality because Ralph is scarily clingy and Vanellope is an ass.
They're badly written, the plot is badly written, all of this is just unarguably worse than the first movie in every way.
also ralph acts like he cant be away from her for more than a minute when they go to their separates games for several hours every day
Just The Girl by one hit wonder The Click Five could practically be a song for this movie.
Keep in mind it is a song about a man who's constantly longing for a girl who belittles him by laughing at his dreams and once pushed him into a pool. Yet shes bittersweet and keeps him off his feet and he cant stop longing for her.
For the record, that is a 2005 song that's suppose to be "romantic" but if you changed the lyrics to be about 2 friends in a crumbling relationship, it could fit this film fine!
Would it have been too much of a hassle for the writers to have had Ralph say he actually Adopted her? I mean Vanellope still doesn’t have a family so instead of her just being a grown man’s friend she would have been his real Daughter, which would make Ralph’s desire to keep their relationship together A LOT more understandable
@@KirbyEatsCake123 yeah none of them have parents
Word
The one thing that broke the illusion for me was that Ralph and Venellope owed so much money to eBay because they kept bidding higher and higher on their own on the auction.
It might be how real-life auction houses work, but that's not how eBay works! eBay lets users put in a maximum bid amount, and the final price only increases if someone else places a bid.
Aside from that, to me, the film was just boring, I didn't even notice how flawed the story was because of how dull it was.
Why do people bitch about product placement in movies?
Also how do these two not know what money is? They have their own game currency
Idk I actually found that part pretty charming,, even if it's not how ebay works
They are two separate people shouting different bids. In universe the bidders were represented by a single person standing there.
The critique on this movie is beyond forced tbh.
The worst part of this whole movie is that somebody at Disney, in all of their nonsensical family-friendly censorship bullshit, somehow approved this movie as appropriate for children to watch. This movie tells kids that it is perfectly safe to click on ads that tell you you can get rich playing video games. This movie tells kids that it is entirely possible to profit thousands of dollars a day off of making youtube videos. This movie tells kids misinformation about the dark web to make it sound cool and edgy, and ultimately a place that kids will try to go to. I would legitimately not allow any child to watch this movie.
Yeah after reading your comment just realised how much bad messages this movie show
@@DarkTemplarlord technicly im pretty sure that except for the dark web all this is true it just shouldnt be shown to kids untill there old enough to know doing it is a bad idea
Omg I am shocked I didn't notice that I was just so fixated on her going turbo and Ralph being out of character dam what were they thinking!?
Not to mention, it tells kids that negative comments on social media are no worse than playground insults.
Well yeah, it is. All this complaining about Disney not understanding how internet works is just based on not understanding how MOBILE internet works. It's already a securely closed system with all of those "bad actors" that you might fear in dark web (seriously? 12yo's don't install TOR browsers these days) are nothing more than the SAME corporations just like disney who WANT you to click as many ads as possible, indiscriminately.
And most people are here for it, they claim otherwise, but how about things like "consumer advocacy" for the freedom to pirate obsolete games? They don't support the freedom to SELL bootleg games, that would be capitalism, but how do pirates get funded? With porn ads. Duh. Said it right here, maybe Disney DOES want computer users to click on Elsa Spider-Man videos, to buy more of THEIR palstic crap with the ad money. It's just like the corporate owned towns cycling through their own currencies, it's not "dangerous to children", it's JOB SECURITY.
And Fair Use making THIS video. Exact same shit. Your own snout is deep in the trough.
Esoteric Happy Ending: *Vanellope is happy, but she effectively "went Turbo" to do so, abandoning her game and its people. Meanwhile, Ralph himself is left with one less friend to confide in even if he's happy that she's happy, and she was better off than him when she decided to hang out in someone else's game.*
Which is funny because the first movie established “Going Turbo” as a _bad_ thing.
Geez, just cue Pieces by Sum 41 already. Its chorus contains the line "Cause I'm Better Off On My Own"
@@thebrightdiamondtp7871 Turbo literally left his game to rot and destroyed another out of pure jealousy, and proceeded to hijack a third game and brainwash all the characters in it into believing he was their king.
Ralph ending up getting the game broken at the start of the movie is a bigger example of the kind of meddling that's explicitly against the rules of the first movie. Vanelope, one character that hadn't even been in the game for ages, being gone to exist in a different game where she won't really even be noticed isn't the same thing at all.
@@Poefred Vanellope's intentions weren't bad either. Doesn't mean that they were good, or okay. Vanellope was being selfish and didnt care about anything else, and got upset at Ralph for not AGREEING with her, and worsened his insecurities.
The "Fallow Your Dreams" or "Empowerment" stories walk a knife's edge before the main character devolves into an entitled piece of crap as is. This film not only fell to those failings, but being a sequel that ignored the morality of the original magnified it ten fold. That's before we get to the treatment of the net itself!
The other issue with empowerment is it has become cliched in really corporate movies. Introducing a strong, independent wahmen who don't need no man is not only nothing new, but you run the risk of the character being a Mary Sue. It's why Ron Stoppable is a more popular character than Kim Possible.
It would make more sense if Vanellope learned that she wasn’t good enough of a racer yet and she needed to work on herself and her friends in her own game and think she should try again later rather than abandon everyone without even saying goodbye
The season 3 episode of Elena of Avalor, “Giant Steps”, deconstructs this trope by having Naomi realize that her responsibilities in Avalor are more important than her needs.
@@alaska3195
Naomi is the younger sister of Elena correct?
@@DrawciaGleam02 no, they’re not related. Naomi is Elena’s best friend and royal adviser.
“But then again, I’m not a robot who sold his soul out to Mammon”
I’m pleasantly surprised by a demonological reference in a MME video.
Who?
@@Trevthehedgehog7 Mammon is a demon of greed, wealth, and overall material possession.
Mammon is one of the most well known Princes of Hell, I'd say.
For me? It's the Leviathan.
@@cordyceps182 I have Chrono Trigger to thank for learning about Mammon myself.
I can't tell if it's a reference to the actual demon or the Helluva Boss character based on the demon
I always jokingly called this movie, “Ralph Breaks His Own Rules”
I call it Ralph f*s the Internet.
How about Ralph ‘breaks my f***ing patience’? I didn’t come up with that, Schafrillas did
Me: ralph wrecks my mind
can I adopt this name for it
@@lazuliisanidiot sure, as long as you credit me for it.
As someone who liked the first film, I pretend this sequel doesn’t exist.
Same
Same
Disagree the ralph clone pile was hot and it did end on a nice note just...stumbled getting there. And cheated so dump on man emitional flaws while vanellopes aren't because empowerment
what sequel? there's no wreck it ralph sequel! that never happened!
Ah, the “Homestuck 2” and “Cursed Child” approach! I do the same. It works like a charm 😊
This movie was such a disappointment. I have no idea why ruining Vanellope and Ralph as characters warranted the light of day - let alone a sequel. Blah.
@Hawkknight97 I mean, yeah. That's what the reason *ALWAYS* boils down to when it came to these subpar sequels that didn't need to exist, money.
It's always about the money...
This movie was a huge disappointment for me because I enjoyed the first wreck it Ralph movie. They could cleverly make fun of the Internet but instead, they made it cringe.
*Cringey but yeah. There's so much that could've been done with Wreck-It Ralph, it could be like Toy Story but Disney doesn't care about it
@@fishdude2954 Amen
Ralph Breaks the Internet excelled at doing both things at once.
To add insult to injury, the original director, or writer, left the film early on so that explains why it feels less like a Wreck-It-Ralph movie and more like an hour long advertisement.
That’s not true. Director Rich Moore returned to direct this film. But production was put on hold in 2014 after he left to go work on Zootopia. He then resumed working on this film once he finished Zootopia
@@superjackster0165 Oh, I thought he left in general. Didn't know he worked on Zootopia. That actually makes this film look worse in my eye and probably damage my love for the first movie on top of it. 🤦♂
To add to the other reply that unfortunately isn't getting enough attention - Rich Moore didn't leave while RBTI was being made, he left Disney a few months after it came out. He made a comment about creative freedom in the interview about his departure, so that adds to suspicions that Ralph Breaks the Internet was taken out of the crew's hands and turned into a Disney commercial against the writers' will
I'm not trying to be rude or anything I promise, I just wish people would take a few seconds to Google stuff because there's lots of dumb myths about the Wreck-It Ralph franchise (and others) that get spread by people just repeating misunderstandings
They should have gone with the original script.
@@fishdude2954 You onow, I wouldn't be surprised is this was true.
Off topic, but I always found Sgt. Calhoun a curiosity in Wreck it Ralph. They made her an actually pretty likeable tough-girl, and she didnt have any of the baggage and spitefullness characteristic of disney "types' " attempts at tough-girl characters (see Carol Danvers).
Reply got shadowbanned. This is getting ridiculous.
She was written in 2009-2011
@@sangheiliwarrior86 How irritating. Still says reply is there, but reply isn't actually there.
@@KeybladeMasterAndy Oh yes Andy, a time before hyper political correctness and social media couldn't control a big chunk of your work
@@sangheiliwarrior86 what is shadowban
I'm glad to see you actually did this review. It gives me hope that the Timmy's secret wish and Xiaolin chronicles reviews will also happen
oh God Xiaolin Chronicles….
why would you wish such harm on another human being?
@@_Sage967_ cause it's their job XD
Hope he would review timmy's secret wish from Fop. I consider that to be worse than It's a Wishful life!
@@luckylol Yeah it's probably the third worst of the show behind light's out and that abysmal episode that revealed Jorgen deliberately ruined Crocker's life to easily power up the fairy world.
In the first movie they made such a big deal about Ralph going "turbo", yet no one bited an eye when Vanellope literally abandoned her game forever.
It angers me to no end💢
That’s not just bad writing, but also probably feminism. Apparently it’s not a problem if a female character does it. Disney needs to stop being woke.
Plot twist: Maybe Vanellope did not really abandon Sugar Rush _forever_ and she returns anyway in Wreck-it Ralph 3!
Ralph literally left his game and almost got all the people in his game homeless for the same reason but now that Vanellope can leave her game she doesn’t want to go back leaving everyone in her game to the same fate that Ralph did originally (But it’s good this time?)
Wether or not they get the steering wheel her friends would lose their home when they realize Vanellope is gone so the game is declared out of order and gets unplugged again
Ralph Breaks the Internet is just one of those movies that gets worse the more you think about it.
It should have been nominated for the Razzies.
Yeah it is and watching the movie on Disney+ made my thoughts sink like an anchor
I agree, I thought it was passable, decent when I watched it the first time. I think the critics also similarly overrated the film when it came out. Upon thinking more about Ralph Breaks the Internet, it’s a subpar film that shits on Ralph and Vanellope and the whole story of WIR1 in general.
@@Disneyfan82Or the Golden Raspberry Award.
They could have made everyone happy by getting the steering wheel at a decent cost and finding that her game an update along the way: she won’t risk her people being homeless again and she gets new tracks so she isn’t bored with her world anymore
It was right there but they decide to beak their universe’s own rules because the protagonists are doing it this time
Wreck-It Ralph was decent. But Ralph Breaks The Internet on the other hand, it’s… one of those sequels nobody asked for.
Oh people wanted (and still want) a Wreck-It Ralph sequel - this just isn't a Wreck-It Ralph sequel since it has nothing to do with the first movie. It's a shame since Wreck-It Ralph has a lot of potential for expansion, much like Toy Story. People have written their own good sequels for it though
One film is enough. Not everything needs a bloody sequal. Stand alone films are fine.
Wreck It Ralph is one of Disney's best films in the past 25 years, this sequel was unnecessary and didnt need to be made.
@@HugoSoup57pudieron haber hecho un kung fu panda o como entrenar a tu dragón trilogía pero no lo hicieron
Oh, Wreck-it Ralph ain't decent, it's an amazing movie, which just makes this dumpster fire of a sequel worse
You know Ralph and Vanellope’s relationship would have made so much more sense if they had said something about Ralph actually Adopting her in between the events of the movie. It would make so much more sense for Ralph to be so attached to her if they had a father/daughter relationship and it would make total sense if he adopted her as a daughter and his fears would make much more sense that way.
Yeah, when I first watched the movie I thought it wasn't that bad like it was overall okay a 5/10 in general. But then the reviewers came in and pointed out all of real things wrong with this and now I say it's 2/10 for much of a fuck you to anyone who cared about the first movie, Hell even to people with decent tastes.
Eh Dan. Maybe people such as you and me got blinded by all the licensing they bought for the film and almost forgot to criticize it properly
@@ThomasmemoryscentralThat is very possible, especially since Wreck it Ralph is one of my favorite Disney movies and that reason in of itself led me to believe that the movie isn't all that bad, though it actually very much is.
Same to me. I didn't like the message that much and I thought Ralph get famous too quickly, but it was OK. A 5'5/10. But then, I commented the movies with friends and one of them pointed during hours how selfish is Vanellope. From there, I see more and more mistakes (the princess scene, how idiotic is the internet, how obsessed is Ralph...).
Yep, remembering it, it was bad. Researching it was worse. 3/10 movie.
0:42 Literally the only redeeming quality of this movie is that actually let the actresses of the Disney Princesses reprise their roles including Jennifer Hale. That's the only positive thing I can really say about this movie, oh and the Roger Craig Smith Sonic cameo.
I don't think they belittled the princesses either. I don't recall Pocahontas getting lectured for cultural insensitivity or Tiana needing more representation of skin colour
@@jadedheartsz Maybe if you're 3
@@jadedheartsz
Dude, you are arguing in an outnumbered comment battle and you are not making a big impact.
If you want to make a point, make a video about it to add more gasoline into the fire until blood vessels pop.
@@jadedheartsz Explain to me why Minions is successful then, because it has forced, lazy references in place of good characters, an interesting story and funny jokes up the wazoo.
@@jadedheartsz You point out that kids didn’t get the references in Minions yet you used that as an argument for why young children wouldn’t enjoy Ralph Breaks the Internet. Also, considering how often kids are on their devices, they’d probably get more than you think.
Vanellope went full turbo in this movie and no one cared... these people are not the same characters from the first movie at all.
Love. Instant favorite when you mentioned being tired of the princess hatred and soon to be extremely dated rebranding.
And yeah I never liked the Princess scene. I like those movies. Being ashamed of artistic masterpieces because whiners on the internet talk about them is beyond pathetic to me.
Movie : You shouldn't care about what strangers on the internet think of you !
Also the movie : Hey, guys, look, we make fun of fairy tales trope just like you do ! Aren't we so relatable and meta ??
I think the trend of "subverting Old Disney" might also be due to the success of Shrek. Every studio out there tried to copy Shrek's formula, and Disney too decided to jump in on the bandwagon and stick to it, in addition to adopting pop culture references & CGI.
The issue is that in 2001, subverting old tales was seen as novel, whereas now it is predictable & self-loathing in Disney's case.
@@kitkatboard Yeah that too, some hypocrisy on the writer’s part
@@kitkatboard Me: Disney your meta jokes got old for me by the time Moana came out with Maui voiced by Dwayne Johnson poked fun at the princess with animal sidekick joke.
@@Thomasmemoryscentral
Eh, many people have made jokes about non-Disney characters being possible Disney princesses for a while now.
And i like the scene for depicting just how messed up some of the scenarios these girls experienced were.
Ariel's an obvious one, and Cinderella was forced to become a slave.
"Do people all assume all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up?"
OH, OK Rapunzel. I guess we're just going to forget that Flynn sacrificed his life to cut your hair so you wouldn't be a slave to a witch for the rest of your life. Besides that obviously meant nothing, because your hair is back to normal.
I hate Disney.
This movie felt like another piece of Disney’s woke political agenda. That line alone is clear evidence of that
@@superjackster0165 Why is Disney being stupid and lying to themselves that everyone wants to see political garbage?
13:17 Ah yes, because you TOTALLY would have jumped out of your tower and just gone straight towards the lanterns without any knowledge of the path to get there all on your own. Didn’t need any big strong man to help you do that, did you? Ah yes, let’s just completely write Eugene out of Tangled and watch how easily Rapunzel can escape Gothel’s emotional/psychological abuse AND her tower all on her own without any help whatsoever.
The fact that Tangled deals with psychological abuse just makes the Eugene downplaying worse.
One of the first steps to get out of an abusive relationship is to actually realize that it's abusive. With really no other relation to compare it too beside a fucking lizard, Rapunzel would've never gotten out of Gothel's control. She needed a friendship first, or at least someone to tell her it wasn't okay. Doesn't matter that Eugene is a man and a love interest.
Tangled isn’t about a man saving a woman. It’s about two people who just so happened to end up together getting to know each-other and helping the other out in a pinch. It seems the person who wrote that line missed the point.
@@eatatjoe It also makes Rapunzel herself kind of stupid.
Honestly the only ones where that argument of ‘big strong men saving them’ only fits to Snow White and Sleeping Beauty (and maybe Jasmine). All the other times, the Princesses either be the ones to save themselves like Mulan or Ariel, or her and the man work together as a team like Rapunzel and Moana.
For those who really like this movie, I totally respect all of your opinions. But... I actually did *not* like this movie at all. Which is a sad shame, because I absolutely loved Wreck-It Ralph. But this movie is awful! Okay, it's not *that* awful, but it's still really bad. When I first watched it, I really *hated* it, but I don't hate it *as* much as I used to, but it's still a really bad movie though.
This movie is really disappointing to me.
Same
To be honest, I used to like this movie ( I still find the Disney princess jokes funny)
But looking back and rewatching the first movie, I can see why this one is terrible
@@anthonycollins2383 I agree with you, Anthony! 100%!
I am at the movie has problems but I didn't really hate it that much as other people there are some things I like about it and somethings I don't I am curious what are some of the problems people have for this movie
I don't much care for it, funny thing is my little ones also didn't like it, and kids will watch anything.
If Ralph built the new track after game hours and they introduced it in Sugar Rush the next day, the whole movie never would've happened.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Like how did he think it was a good idea to do that in the middle of the day while the arcade was open
Also the fact that Sugar Rush was retconned to be a single player racer instead of a two player one
good idea, the movie shouldn't have happened
Plus, wouldn't players notice that Ralph was missing from his game? Happened in the first movie while he was in Hero's Duty.
Emotional Disney then: Simba has to witness his own father violent death and blamed himself for that
Emotional disney now: Ralph reads some mean comments about one stupid ass parody video
By this movie's logic, Turbo did nothing wrong.
They should make a third movie where Shank is revealed to be a villain and won't let Vanellope escape when the developers find her in the game and try to delete her. That would compensate for this awful sequal.
When I first saw this movie, I honestly thought that Shank was gonna be the villain
@@superjackster0165Me too. And this plot line of Shank preventing Vanellope from escaping sounds so much better than the sloppy plot we actually got.
Basically we have a sequel that forgets everything that was established with previous installment and what made it work as a whole.
Give it a year and Frozen II comes along to repeat the exact mistakes
yup not like every other racer in sugar rush could d13 if she goes turbo.
@@Thomasmemoryscentral Except unlike Frozen, Wreck-it Ralph 1 was actually good
@@AkameGaKillfan777 yeah. I wont deny Wreck Ot Ralph is superior but I still think Frozen is fine.
In 2013, it was the best animated feature of the year considering the choices were so lacking. Free Birds? Turbo? Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2? Escape From Planet Earth?
Yeah 2013 did contain Epic And The Croods but Frozen clearly won by default with so much lackluster animated features that year
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I apologize if I sound pretentious, but while I've only watch the first Frozen, most of people's criticisms of the sequel are problems I had with the first one. Schafrillas Productions even made a video about the issues with production. One of the most common known early concepts was that Elsa was supposed to be a villain, which PhantomStrider did a video on.
Man, this particular review was incredibly hilarious and intriguing.
Not just funnier than the movie itself, but actually funny.
Even though I still like her and understood her perspective
Now looking back, yeah
Vanellope’s motives in the movie were selfish
Btw is it bad that I kinda think it would be cool to see Taffyta (Vanellope’s sugar rush rival) actually beat Vanellope in a race?
That would've made for a better movie then this shit. Maybe that could be the thing that drops Vanellope back down to earth. She wins so much she thinks her game is boring, she attempts to go Turbo from said game, Vanellope and Taffyta have one last race where Taffyta ends up winning due to Vanellope overconfidence and short-sightedness, Vanellope learns that it's not the game's fault she's that broken of a character.
They’d never allow Vanellope to lose to someone else these movies allow her to face no consequences or repercussions for her actions and she can behave like a jerk and get rewarded for it.
Considering how horrible she was in the second movie, I’m gonna say no. It’d probably bring her ego into check.
@@avalasialove If you don’t mind me asking
What do you think of the idea I shared with @RetroGamer
Of a scene where Taffyta beats Vanellope
@@retrogamer6403 This would be great character development for Taffyta
From a cocky bully in the first movie
To a cool and confident girl that puts an immature and insecure Vanellope in her place
The worst kinds of sequels are the ones that defeat the purpose of the first movie
"Do people assume that all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up?" That's rich coming from a 18-year-old kidnapping victim literally SAVED from a life of slavery by the "big strong man", even richer considering he literally GOT STABBED AND DIED to save her...
The person who wrote that joke obviously didn’t watch Tangled. Nobody who saw that movie though it was about a damsel in distress being saved by “a big strong man.” It was about two people who met by chance and slowly got to know each-other on their journey and helped each-other out in a pinch.
@@avalasialoveIn fact, if you watch the movie, Rapunzel saves Eugene more often than the opposite.
“You want to know how you earn $27,000 on the internet in 24 hours?”
*cuts to ad break*
I mean, that’s not necessarily wrong.
It begs the question of why Wreck-It Ralph even needed a sequel in the first place. Like several other Disney movies with unwanted sequels, such as Bambi, the ending of the movie was rather finite, so there truly was nothing more to say or do.
1st movie: *when any character wants to leave their game* WHAT THE HECK?! why are you going Turbo?!
2nd movie: *when Vanellope gets bored and wants to leave her game* Eh, okay whatever makes you happy.
Me: Am I missing something here?
Seriously?!!!
Why is this movie Breaking the Rules set up by its PREQUEL?!!! IT'S LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THIS MOVIE DIDN'T EVEN WATCH THE FIRST MOVIE; TO TAKE NOTES IN ORDER TO HAVE THE STORY WORK WITHIN THE PRE-ESTABLISHED RULES SET UP IN THE UNIVERSE OF WIR;
Why would they DO this?!!! What Motive did they have for SCREWING UP A MOVIE SO BADLY; THAT IT BREAKS EVERY IN-UNIVERSE RULE THAT THE 1ST MOVIE ESTABLISHED?!!!!!
I sat through completely hating this and just waiting for Taraji P. Henson's character to be a twist villain, but what I saw was worse. So thank you John for tearing this a new one.
What I dislike about the movie is the message the movie made that Ralph did wrong and Vaneollope did right, when they both did wrong in the movie.
Also, I have to agree, the anti-princess shit is beginning to be a bit much as well. Overhating something can be just as cringe as overliking it.
Exactly, knocking it once or twice is fine. But overhating because it exists is juat overkill.
Wreck-It Ralph was perfectly fine as it was, it didn't need a sequel. If it was going to get one, it deserved better than this.
There was potential to create a sequel for Wreck it Ralph.
People have pointed out many good ideas for an actual sequel.
BUT DISNEY JUST COMPLETELY SCREWED IT ALL UP.
So basically this is a movie about highly date-able subjects that was released in 2018, using humor from 2016, whose plot is based on how the internet worked in 2009.
Mmmkay.
I’ve mentioned this elsewhere, but you know what I really want to see in an animated feature film? A hero who turns into a villain.
Like, we have hero characters now who are so flawed, screwed up, and make so many mistakes that they really can’t be considered good guys anymore. So why not go all in with that and just straight up turn a good guy into a bad guy?
Imagine a story where the protagonist starts out as a well-natured good-hearted hero but then pulls a Walter White or Anakin Skywalker and turns into the villain of their own story.
To my knowledge this has never been done in an animated film before. There’s a lot of interesting potential there and it would have made movies like this one or Raya and the Last Dragon a lot better imo.
Isn't that a thing that happens in star wars??? I wouldn't really know cus I haven't watched any of the movies
Live-a-Live movie?
@@Mimiiii_VEV0 In Episode 3. Star Wars is live action, though.
To be fair Courtney from TD is that in tv form
You mean like in megamind?
This makes me glad that Dreamworks at the very least can make sequels/threequels/spinoffs (except we DO NOT talk about Shrek the Third) that range from decent to great, but Disney (for the most part except for a few) is TERRIBLE/INCOMPETENT at making sequels.
Also, Pixar at least only does sequels if they have a good story
@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne "Shrek the Third was ok" and you automatically lost any credibility right there
@@PeruvianPotato tbh Shrek 3 is overhated. Its not that bad imo. Sure it had it's problems but it's nowhere near the worst dreamworks movie. That one goes to Shark tale.
Huh, I wonder why that's the case.....
Seriously, I'm wondering why that is.
@@superjackster0165 Cars 2. Incredibles 2.
"I'm one of sixteen racers, they'd never miss me!"
This line does to me what "That was his mistake" does for Schrafillas
I seem to remember her becoming the most popular character at the end of the first movie
@@AkameGaKillfan777 Even at the beginning of RBTI, the two little girls make clear Vanellope is the most loved character from the game
I really dislike how Vanellope just talks shit about Ralph behind his back in the scene with Shank in Slaughter Race, and NEVER apologizes for that. The movie paints Ralph as the one being in the wrong, which may be true in the case that he nearly destroyed the internet over his clingy obsession with keeping Vanellope to himself, but I was extremely annoyed with the fact that Vanellope basically gets away with talking shit about Ralph behind his back AND going Turbo which basically undermines the message of the first film.
Haven’t heard Mr.Enter rage this hard since his Uh Oh Canada review
Me too.
He got quite worked up in his Out of Jimmy’s Head review.
Canada sucks
Drawn Together Movie the Movie
Frozen: Anna wants to marry someone she just met (knew for just a few hours, if that). Elsa says "no". Turns out Hans really shouldn't be trusted after all; Elsa was right.
Ralph Breaks the Internet: Vanellope wants to live with this stranger she only knew for a couple minutes. Ralph objects, only to learn how "insecure" he was being and letting Vanellope stay with Shank was the "right" thing to do.
Both are Disney movies and both even have several of the same people working on them.
There’s something ironic about the sequels to both of those films. In Ralph Breaks The Internet, Vanellope goes Turbo and nobody brings up how that’s exactly what King Candy, the villain in the first movie, did and it was very controversial to the characters. In Frozen 2, Hans has absolutely zero relevance or importance to the plot. Yet, he’s mentioned at least 7 times in that film
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Vanellope: I'm one of 16 characters, no one will miss me or even notice I'm gone
Gamers at the start of the exact same film: OH YEAH I LOVE VANELLOPE. SHE HAS THE GLITCH, THE BEST ABILITY IN THE GAME. SHE IS SO COOL, THAT VANELLOPE VON SCHWEETZ. THE CHARACTER WITH A CLEAR DISTINCTION I AM VOICING WITH MY WORDS.
"Do people assume all your problems got solved because a big strong man showed up?"
But.... they did get solved by a man. Specifically for Rapunzel--she wanted to escape the tower to see the floating lights, and a big strong man showed up to help take her there. Then he showed up again when she got kidnapped by Gothel, and stopped her from being trapped for the rest of her life by cutting off all her magic hair. He also reunited her with her birth parents, kinda by accident but still. Even if this point wasn't bullshit on arrival, Rapunzel is like the worst example to use as a mouthpiece for making it lmaoo
Most people aren’t assuming that Rapunzel’s problems were solved by a “big, strong man.” Anyone who actually saw the movie will understand that both Rapunzel and Eugene worked together to get each other out of a jam. That scene is the perfect example of a straw man argument.
When Enter loses his shit in a *modern* video, you know it's serious shit.
This is one of the few reviews where his anger was 150% justified. This movie deserves every little bit of criticism it receives
@@superjackster0165 Off-topic, My favourite "Raging Enter" moment is probably from the Nutshack video.
*IT'S THE NUTSHACK (but every time they say "nutshack" it's Mr Enter's review of The Nutshack)*
"Why you little f-!!!"
@@NebLlebmy favourite one is the one from screams of silence
Also, I just realized. If mordern Mr Enter, quite possibly the calmest version of him, got pissed off at this movie, imagine how his old self would have reacted
@@superjackster0165 Just like Velma Music and Cuties. Those are the fees pieces of media where I actually want him to yell.
Here’s something I kept thinking of: If Ralph and Vanellope need the money so bad, why didn’t they just set up a GoFundMe or something? It’d make more sense than the plot we got. I know some people are saying “But then we wouldn’t have a movie.” Well, maybe that’s a sign that this movie would’ve worked better as a short or maybe a TV special.
EXACTLY. But nope the writers wanted Ralph to floss and do all these other cringe memes that didn’t even pay off at the end for the audience because the memes were already dated by the time the movie came out 🙄
This movie feels like it was made by people who never saw or knew anything about the first movie, which is odd because it was made by the same people.
It makes me believe that there was some kind of studio interference
WIR is overrated imo. I think people are biased because it was one the earliest movies to do the "multiverse" meta thing.
What pisses me off the most is that there is only ONE sugar rush machine in this movie despite that there were TWO in the first movie. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER ONE? Did it break to? Is it for plot convenience?
Probably players/the children was fighting with each other who got the right to choose Vanellope in the race.
So after many fights/arguments Mr.Litwak probably removed one machine to stop all fighting and after the players could only play single player mode against computers.
This movie is basically the equivalent of how Wreck-It Ralph and The Emoji Movie would meet and end up having a child, with some bits of Shrek the Third, Cars 2, and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2, all combined into one movie.
The problem is Vanellope is the MAIN CHARACTER of her game. Her face is on the side of the counsel. It would be like if Sonic suddenly disappeared from his game because he got bored of it. It would legit ruin the entire game. Her code doesn't somehow get removed from her game because she left. Her kart and all signs saying she was there would remain because she was a PART of its code. I don't think the writers thought through this whole plan. It's like in Meet the Robinsons When the T-Rex questions how well the bad guy thought through his plan.
Vanellope being a good guy also does NOT change the fact she went Turbo. It's the same thing and I see so many people argue it was different when it wasn't. She was the president of her game. She was in charge of a kingdom. The title Princess doesn't change that she basically had Queen responsibilities to the people of her game who she up and abandoned.
"I have a big head and little arms. I'm just not sure how well this plan was thought through."
I really hated how the sequel really try to ignore the “going turbo” and everything that happened with King Candy/Turbo himself and how selfish Vaneolpe was. She’s doing the same thing Ralph did in the first movie, but for a more selfish reason, and film wants you to feel like she is in the right for selfishly leaving her game and everyone behind.
At this point, Ralph Breaks The Internet is worse than Cars 2 imo. At least Cars 2 didn’t spit in the face of Cars 1, and at least it was fun to watch. I’ll take Cars 2 over Ralph Breaks Character any day.
Sometimes it's nice to see Angry Enter come back for a vid or two.
Oh hey Baalf. It’s me, Human. It’s weird seeing you here
@@chadman9355 Who?
Also, I was formerly Mister Metokur before that account was suspended
The first wreck it Ralph movie was pretty good and established a story that I felt like didn’t warrant a sequel
It had so much potential for a sequel about Online Gaming since the first movie was about Arcade Games, but the direction they went with was terrible.
Honestly, the only thing I remembered and enjoyed from this movie was the few scenes where Sonic got some dialogue...that's it, nothing more.
Edit: Rapunzel: "Do people assume that all your problems got solved because a big strong man helped?"
That's real funny coming from you, Rapunzel, considering Flynn was the one who took you outside the tower so you could experience the outside world, which led you to finding out the truth about yourself, and he defeated Mother Gothel when he cut your hair...you have no room to talk!
and you can just watch the Sonic movies for him now, so this movie now has no value
@@JadenFox9 I mean, they don't have Roger Craig Smith, so...
@@JadenFox9 I’m gonna be honest.
Movie sonic, is the better lovable annoying character than vanellope is.
@@ethanedwards3357 Then again, most of the Sonic games he voiced in had pretty bad storylines to begin with. Only the Sonic Boom cartoon was really enjoyable.
@@ExtremeWreck Who plays a Sonic game for the story?
I remember I wrote this movie off because it was just “Disney flexing their “we own everything” muscles” with Ralph and Vanellope.
References in the first movie worked because they felt much more natural for a world where video games are alive and interacting. References in the second just feel forced and leaning on the fourth wall. You could tell it was a mistake by all the Disney scenes alone.
Ralph deserved a better sequel, but I guess those chances are (unironically) wrecked to kingdom come.
The reason Venelope is so insufferable here is her character wasn't written to have agency. This movie is the old 'Boy and his pet wolf' story. Disney re-used the Good Dinosaur plot for Wreckit Ralph 2.
That is not why at all..
I have to say it's a little fun seeing 2D princesses in 3D, and makes me wonder why there are no 2D to 3D movie remakes.
There's The Grinch, I guess... if that counts. Bit of a gray area.
They were actually planning on doing that during the Experimental Era but it didn’t pan out and they instead went with live action remakes after Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland did really well at the box office.
@@HydraSpectre1138 which is probably for the best. Some characters from the hand-drawn movies I can’t see working in 3D animation. They’d look awkward at best and disturbing at worst. I know someone on RUclips did a 2D to 3D thing for The Lion King, while the remake was being advertised, and, I wasn’t really impressed by the 2D designs in 3D. It looked more like cutscenes from a video game.
@@thomashuffman3237 I wonder why they didn’t just stick with the original plan of re-releasing the films theatrically every seven years.
As for remakes, I would love remasters of Pixar’s older films which are the exact same movies, but upgraded with more modern graphics, similar to video game remasters.
I think this movie just showed why.
Cause this disney cannot match THAT Disney.
This feels like one of those little five minute Pixar animatics, but stretched out to feature length.
5:19 as soon as Felix hit the film, an ad played lol
“Do you know how different 2018 was? I was relevant!” Oh a self burn, those are rare.
3:06 This line is so good.
1:12, even though the first movie established it was literally impossible for her to leave her home game because of the Glitch
She became able to leave after the Sugar Rush was fixed
If you think RalphTheInternetBreaker breaks it’s characters, wait till you see Toy Story 4.
I’ll take Toy Story 4 over this film with zero hesitation. At least that movie didn’t misportray every character completely
Land before time 10 would have done the main character leaves there old friends and home to start a new life better than Ralph, Frozen 2 and Toy Story 4
Toy story 4 is decent imo. But the lightyear movie is what he should defintely review.
@@luckylol that movie as well. Angus McRoyale-With-Cheese, the director of this film, should’ve thought more about making a good movie instead of trying not to make a Buzz Lightyear of Star Command movie, making the gay kiss (even though they discussed that sexualizing minors through media is bad), and focusing solely on the pretty visuals.
Angus McQuarter-Pounder visited many universities. He visited mine, talking about how great the movie was gonna be, and it turned out bad.
Because what’s good about all those fancy visuals if there’s no cohesive story to be found?
@@superjackster0165 "At least that movie didn't misportray every character completely". Just look at the ending to see how much they massacred Woody's personality
It was a dumb idea for her to stay since slaughter race is continually updated so the programmers will see her code and character model and think wtf and most likely delete it which will kill her
Vanellope should most def think this thru
Damn, I want to see a Parody of that!
A Wreck it Ralph sequel could’ve been much much better. They should’ve kept the movie in the Arcade. They could’ve had a big video game crossover with lots of video game characters that have been in arcades like Sonic, Mario, PAC-MAN, Halo, etc. It would’ve made far more sense for a movie about VIDEO GAMES to have a big crossover with VIDEO GAME characters owned by VIDEO GAME companies.
@@gl1tchygreml1n Yeah. But no. Disney chose to sell out to a bunch of companies which are not video game companies at all. Companies like Google, RUclips, Facebook/Meta, Twitter, Instagram, etc. I think even MySpace was in the movie. The companies they should have gave big roles to are actual video game companies like Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, Namco, Ubisoft, etc. They could’ve interacted more with characters from game series that have had arcade games like Sonic, Mario, PAC-MAN, Halo, etc.
It should’ve been online gaming
I would've loved to see how other arcade games such as Dark Escape 4D, Halo Fireteam Raven, Time Crisis 5, Centipede Chaos, Jurassic Park(1994 or 2015 versions of the arcade game), Final Fantasy 7, etc would've looked like in the world of Wreck It Ralph ngl.
Thank you for tearing into this movie, its baffleing how no one who worked on this understood the lesson of the first one or respected any of the characters used in this. (besides maybe Sonic)
At this rate, Sonic may be the MVP of the film.
He may be the Babu Frik of this film.
@@HydraSpectre1138 Sonic carried!
I was so looking forward to this video and you tearing into this movie. I saw the first Wreck It Ralph when it came out and I was astounded and captivated by the emotionally and character driven story. The story was fantastic, the characters all had a purpose and had set motivations, the plot twist was really well done, and the music was fantastic. When I heard a sequel was announced, I had doubts mostly considering the fact that this movie has a concept that I think wouldn’t do well for a sequel. The story and setting is unique and the first movie covered it perfectly. It seemed difficult knowing where to go from there. I’m so glad I never saw this full movie. I only watched the CinemaSins, Schaffrillas Productions review, and this one. It’s baffling and aggravating how different these characters are and how much mindless product placement there is. This sequel forgets all the morals and story points from the first movie and things just happen because the plot demands it to. Ralph and Vanellope are so out of character, it feels like a Disney product placement film with these character models just inserted. The fact that it ends with Vanellope going turbo, the biggest risk to arcade games in the first movie, is just unbelievably unfathomable and moronic. It alone explains the problems with this film. I never want to watch this full movie, They never should have made this, but I forgot, Disney wants that money.
This movie felt like another piece of Disney’s political agenda
@@superjackster0165 They do that a lot, but that's barely the issue in this film. It has far more prevalent issues, as Enter demonstrated.
@@superjackster0165 It was an issue but there were much bigger fish to fry in this movie
They had a lot of potential for a sequel about online gaming, but the direction they took was mediocre.
I never saw this movie when it came, but every time I saw a trailer for it back in 2018, I kept saying to myself "this looks like they just took some generic kids' movie and slapped Ralph and Vanellope on it for marketing value".
Man, I hate being right...
If it were generic, at least it'd be SERVICEABLE. This isn't serviceable, it is awful beyond belief.
Me too.
Why the hell did they need to go The Internet? They already introduced us to an immersive, wonderful world in the first movie: THE ARCADE! Why couldn't we spend time in the other games' worlds and characters we were breifly introduced in the first movie. Its called WORLD BUILDING!
Ralph Breaks the Internet isn't canon, and nobody can tell me otherwise.
I was just wondering if Mr.Enter did a video on this movie an hour ago. How convenient
Has nobody else noticed a major error? In the first movie, the Sugar Rush game is shown being a double console game with two steering wheels and two seats. In this movie the game is a completely different console: standing version with only one steering wheel. There is no mention of this console change, of the game being unplugged and replaced.
Ralph 2 where the movie has more cameos we wanted in the first one instead of a bait and switch but little to no story basically like a kid who break a vase and replaces it himself.
Sad too as I did like some of the concepts they did but not the execution
Imagine you’re playing GTA and suddenly strawberry shortcake passed you by in a strawberrymobile, and it’s treated like a valid part of the world. That’s what vanellope in slaughter race is like.
It's totally flawed but at least the friendship dynamic between Ralph and Vanellope is still such a joy to watch
to quote Shafrillas
its creepy
@@woobgamer5210 True, but they're just programmed video game characters who learned to have their own intelligence, one who used to be an outcast villian their whole life who definitely has attachment issues after finally having friends for once, and one who has spent the first part of their life as an outcast who couldn't race and the second part only racing the same tracks over and over, they would definitely not be good people irl, but they're examples of what to do and not do in real relationships, the fact that age between friends is seen as an issue is just a testament to how fucked up our world is, but in their video game world they don't see each other for their ages at all in terms of platonic friendship
@@woobgamer5210 I don’t get why Vanellope is a child, them making her an adult would make this much less creepy
@@Matthew.Niverse fair but it's still creepy. The first movie pretty much negated all the creepy vibes because it was just the two of them working towards a common goal and forming a friendship. Ralph works more as an uncle or guardian to vanellope in the first film. And since his whole shtick is wanting to be a hero, he goes out on a whim and is willing to sacrifice himself for her. In Ralph breaks the internet, Ralph acts like he has a crush on her, which is just weird
@@Matthew.Niverse buddy, you just cracked the code!
Although I would replace platonic relationship with just friendship, as not too many people would get what platonic means right away.
16:34 not only did Vanellope get rewarded for leaving her game, but her own game will probably still get unplugged and removed, since she's not in the game anymore and if people try chose her character since her code is still in Sugar Rush and she doesn't appear, they might think that the game is acting up just like it did with Ralph's game. And then someone would have to come see what's wrong with it and if they can't fix the problem then the game would be unplugged, leaving the game where it was at the beginning of the film, leaving all of the Sugar Rush characters without a home, which also would mean that they could be in danger if they die in any other game, so mostly Vanellope made the entire movie completely pointless and the actual reason why her game will be gone is because of her.
Plus, there will be so many gameless/homeless characters too, the racers, spectators, and NPCs all together.
if we had a third film we would see NFT's been part of the plot
I wonder if there are any official Disney-approved NFTs out there?
@@NitroIndigo There are some made to promote Disney+.
The only upsides to this movie are the stan lee cameo and Sonic's only two moments where he interactions with ralph.
Not only does Vanelope go Turbo, but she leaves Sugar Rush LEADERLESS.
Also when you die outside your game you actually die
@@locomotivetrainstation6053 ...
Makes you wonder WHY again Ralph decided let a dangerous virus into a video game. Oh, yeah, to make a game BORING that could potentially leave those game characters homeless until their game is fixed, not to mention could've killed your best friend...man, I hate this movie!
@@locomotivetrainstation6053apparently in the ending shank “coded vanelope into slaughter race so she can respawn there”. That just makes zero sense. It’s not like she has any cool hacking powers like turbo.
Does Sugar Rush need a leader? I kind of think it can function without Vanellope...for a few weeks before anyone playing the game or Mr. Litwak begins to notice her absence.
@adamkalb1 Sugar Rush always had Vanellope as Queen. It wasn't until Turbo hijacked the game, erased their memories, and pretty much ousted her as Queen so he could usurp the throne and declare himself as their king.
This is why Walt Disney never wanted to make sequels to animated films.
Not unless they were made by people who did not do poor creativity like this.
The first movie is one of my favorites from Disney and was an obsession of mine during 2012-2014, I eagerly awaited its sequel for so many years that my disappointment was immeasurable when it came out