@@namelessvoid9725if you are talking about real life mythology then please go first and read actually what happened before saying Arjuna had no honor.
Orion's voice actor (same as Cu's) is awesome. In the serious versions of the NP, you can feel his devotion to Artemis, and in the goofy version, he absolutely nails the humor.
and it funny because the feat of fate kaleid shirou was a reference to the statement from nasu that gil could finish the stay night grail war in one day if he was serious
@@knightofthelake8112 Aside from the fact that he is a NP spammer in fgo with his skills, the feats that he did during the fate routes even taking down your number 1. While I know if he was serious from the beginning that wouldn’t be the case, the fact that pride is the key factor for his defeat proves that. Not only that I’ll refer you to someone who has done the research on why EMIYA should be considered: ruclips.net/video/lTsGBr92HIU/видео.htmlsi=Aif3k-uc73qGBf_7 and ruclips.net/video/tbv_040Uj1Y/видео.htmlsi=YN9BCG0oWrDMN8b8
@jaylonchachere2424 I appreciate the reasoning but there's a huge problem in emiya's case, that being speed, emiya gets consistently blitzed by stay night cu, chiron who is the weakest here was reacting and took down Achilles' chariot while it was moving at the speed of light. David fought on par with Hector and one shotted herc with his second noble phantasm, tesla stated he could one shot America with his noble phantasm. Emiya has great showings depending on his plan, but with equal conditions in an empty area with no outside interventions he is not beating anyone in this list.
@@knightofthelake8112 I feel like EMIYA should be on the list due to hacks(projecting noble phantasms) but you are correct with the fact that EMIYA struggled in every close up matches. But damn is UBW and copying noble phantasms like rulebreaker making me question.
@@xenolulsifer karna as per real mythology is an demi god who uses bow as his main weapon and he was so much powerful than arjuna that multiple gods had to curse karna, his sun god shield being taken away and him not using his ultimate attack against arjuna due to his promise to his mother as he blood related brother of arjuna that was left by his mother so he was elder and superior to arjuna in every way. But he was on the wrong side(i.e against the god and goodness itself) that is why he had to die for goodness to prevail. He himself was really a honest and charitable person though.
@@elitegamer8008u are wrong. In terms of pure skills Arjuna was the best Archer. Karna just has Hax which basically made him immortal. There were many instances where that shield of his saved his life against Arjuna So god's have to take out those things first and they did gave him another boon in Return. Though he ended up using that against ghatotkach
@@pratyush8741yeah, but overall karna would win 10/10 times, because of his bow,armour, he can't loose with his bow in his hand,nothing can pierce his armour in myth.
Nobunaga gets stronger against divine enemies, but her basic power is barely around okita's, even when buffed she still struggles against opponents like demon god pillars, ryouma and kagetora, gilgamesh on the otherhand was easily dealing with the eleven off springs of tiamat who are as strong as demon god pillars, + anyone above Nobunaga in this list can one shot her with their noble phantasm due to the massive difference in raw power.
I see a lot of people overrating Gilgamesh to be honest, he surely has incredible power BUT... he's still an idiot egomaniac, basically he would loose a match coz he cares too much about pride and stuff and being king, shit like that. He could never resist to Nobunaga' Sixth Heaven, he would also understimate her and condemning himself to the downfall. That's the difference between a commander and a king, Nobu knows pretty well to not understimate her opponents or it would sign her downfall, Gilgamesh doesn't... That's why he also lost to Shirō.
Nah , that pride is the effective from that era . Arccher gil may too arrogant but not that let him lose against anyone . And u ask for why him losing? go check who is the main protagonist of ubw and heaven's feel
You misunderstand Gilgamesh's character his arrogance is based on the fact that "Mongrels" are aiming for his treasure he used to have when he was alive aka the Holy Grail and so he sees people who want to steal his treasure as Irrelevant and unworthy of attention + When he saw the state of the holy grail he understood the state of humanity and as he is clearly the overseer of humanity it angered him that humanity had fallen to such a state and had become so malicious
That's true. Even though Gil's kit makes him one of the best anti-Servant Servants, he probably would lose pretty handily to Nobu's NP. It's well-positioned to counter Gate of Babylon like Unlimited Blade Works is, and she has an anti-Divine bonus on top of that. Whipping out Ea right off the bat would still take care of Nobu, but Gil's far too prideful to ever do that.
@@ACagedBird364 That's not how it works in Fate. Gilgamesh has more fire power and abilities. But because super Orion is a grand servant, he has a grand saint graph, and therefore automatically outclasses Gilgamesh who has a regular saint graph. Stuff like complex multiverse is really nothing but nonsense so try not to waste your time thinking about it.
@@ACagedBird364not exactly, what makes Orion technically stronger is that his spirit core is abnormally powerful when summoned as a Grand Archer, his core is basically buffed by Alaya or the Counterforce or whatever, making his saint graph so overpowered that it isn’t even funny, but there is a valid reason their saint graphs are altered to be so powerful, they’re meant to take out beasts of humanity and therefore their saint graphs are fed mana roids so they can effectively murder whatever target they’re sent after.
@@TryingForSomethingNew Where are you getting this information? Do they explain this in the story? I’m only at Lostbelt 3. But imagine needed to be summoned as a grand servant to take down beasts of humanity when Gilgamesh already goes that. Isn’t King Hassan a grand assassin?
Arjuna's nps can kill archer heracles since he has divine bow and bomb. Would put him equal to or above heracles. Featwise hes shown to kill 28 demon gods in one blow. Tank ishtar's np head on with low mana support in babylonia manga.
@@bluemoon9683 Arjuna's np bring enough to kill herc doesn't mean he should be on par or above him, herc can kill arjuna without even using nine lives.
@@knightofthelake8112 arjuna's divine bow can also kill herc so his pelt won't work since its a divine bow. Moreover if arjuna can tank an A++ NP from a servant buffed by their homeland then herc would definitely need something powerful to kill him. He'd be relative if not higher than herc on the list.
no not really he have a normal graph meanwhile orion have grand saint graph making his raw capabilities and power stronger than any normal server even gilgamesh even then gilgamesh is almost as powerful as orion imagine if gilgamesh obtains a grand saint graph
He doesn't have authority, the counterforce gives him power necessary to deal with the threat, and mostly in that case he wouldn't be limited to an "archer" class container
Archer Herc is the strongest imo. Just by the fact the author refused to let us know how strong he really is before nefting him to avenger, even as an avenger he's an absolute beast and can toe to toe vs Gil so in his best class as an archer, he should dominates everyone in here
I mean in Strange/Fake Heracles being a pseudo archer/avenger us actually what makes him such a beast. Hell he's even able to steal other servant NP and immune to hydra poison because he's part avenger. Literally getting the benefits of 2 classes
@@hypeman1021 how did he lose to gob ?? Are you making shit up ? Gob didn’t harm anything of him, the lion skin and a single blow of Herc swinging the bow are enough to negate everything Gil threw at him. He even told Gil to release his strongest weapon aka EA since gob stand no chance against a monster like Herc
@whitelyly970 In the first fight gil was just messing around, in their second fight gil was aiming his gob to the gaps in the lion skin making alcides work even harder to block any fatale blow, gil literally bitch slapped one of his arrows with nothing but his gauntlet + gil started then seriously using gate of babylon causing alcides to use nine lives aka his strongest attack just to match it (herc btw was boosted by Jack's noble phantasm)
@DeadApostleAncestor10 David fought Hector in cqc, + his np killed herc once and he literally has a king hassan in a box to one shot anyone, so anyone who can't straight up overpower him is basically not winning against David. Alcides is a mixed archer/avenger so I didn't count him, Zhou yu is honestly not qualified to be on this list in my opinion, why do you think he is in any way on the level of the guys in this list?
@@knightofthelake8112 Fair enough explanation for David Still I would count Alcides as a archer because he can qualify for it nonetheless Zhou yu literally has a reality marble and was able to hold off samson he has enough battle iq and iq to and can maintain a good distance with his opponent also chain that he can pull off from anywhere within his reality marble maybe not in this top 12 but reality marbles are still a great source of mystery solved I would say he is definitely up there Also Kali and Durga are here too now she should be above Ishtar because chief goddess but we never saw enough feats from her so I would say below her ig? Ptolemy weakening Typhon and allat
@@knightofthelake8112Oh also just noticed Super orion above Gilgamesh? 😭 He ain't a grand anymore so idk why we including him as one among these I thought it was just servants? But if not then Gilgamesh is top 1 no debate
This list seems l over the place when I am watching it rn again like if it's not just servant variant then why is Gilgamesh below Super orion? Ishtar a goddess below Arjuna? Ash even what is this even based off
@DeadApostleAncestor10 Super Orion here was considered as his grand archer variant just for the fun of it, since he is the only grand archer we got. Ishtar in this list is the pseudo servant one, the one with an archer container, in which case she has no feats above arjuna whatsoever, even their noble phantasms, arjuna's is superior. Ashwattama is stated to be as strong if not stronger than karna, which is shy he is above arjuna (karna's equal) Kali and Durga are in the jp version only, so I can't get much informations about them.
@@knightofthelake8112 no but i would assume his streangh alone would meet the conditions , but now that you mention it what are the conditions for all the classes
@xyzbeast1982 It is not about strength but more so the skill required to take down the threat. Against koyanskaya a beast hunter was required which is why Orion was the one called. Against Zeus a man said to be the foundation of a civilization was required which is why Romulus was summoned. Grand assassin should either be the best assassin or a person very connected to death, which is why king hassan and tezcatlipoca were the choices. Grand caster needs a powerful clairvoyance, which us why merlin, gilgamesh and solomon are the candidates for it. As for Grand saber and berserker it's just a known sword that defeats evil and someone who embodies madness
@@knightofthelake8112 i get it, i have 1 question tho so since saber class is based on being a master swordsman and lance is about being a master spear man, is assasin based on being able to kill witgout being noteced ?
@xyzbeast1982 Not really, it depends on who they are summoned to fight against sometimes. So while the grand saber needs to be a character known for a Holy sword that defeats evil, that requirement may change to the strongest samurai if the enemy to humanity is some old evil samurai, that kinda stuff you know. For example grand archer should be the best archer, in thus case arash would be, but since koyanskaya was a demonic beast fusion, the requirement became the greatest beast hunter ever aka Orion. For grand assassin usually the requirement is being related to death, which is why hassan and tez both fill the requirements.
Look, Emiya is strong, but he's not beating Archer Heracles nor some of the ones that came before. Gilgamesh destroys him by pulling out Ea. If we're talking about overall power, he's maybe above Tristan and Nobunaga. When it comes to overall combat ability then he may be able to get higher
@@prehistoriccreator9600 brother i dont think so . Emiya not that strong , the most strong thing he can do is counter against Gob , one of the best counter to Gob . His weapon and skill are almost fake and it's jusst too hard for him to win against sir tristan . Tríatan bow is just too op that emiya have no chance to open or casting his ubw . maybe in real fight type moon will buff him ( protangonist , of course ) but a match against sir tristan is just too difficult
@@hououinkyouma1465 First off, ubw isn't the only thing EMIYA has, it's just his most powerful thing. He can still fire swords rapidly just less efficiently. He also has access to multiple Noble Phantasms including Rho Ais, which has a conceptual advantage against projectiles, extremely useful against Archers. He's also able to mimic the strength and skill of the weapon he's using and is actually extremely skillful as complimented by Cu Chulainn, but has an inferiority complex and no pride in his skills. He has Mind's Eye, which allows him to keep up with faster and stronger opponents, as well as reinforcement to enhance himself along with buffs he can recieve from weapons(yes he does get buffs from some weapons). Besides, what does his weapons being fake have to do with anything anyway? I mean, who said a fake can't surpass the original? Also, he could most definitely cast UBW during the fight. He doesn't really need much room to breathe as he doesn't need to do the full chant to summon it unlike other Shirous and it really isn't that hard to believe he could make enough room to say 4 short lines, especially when he has one of the best shields in Fate.
@@prehistoriccreator9600 hmm , i think u are wrong in this point : shirou said fake can surpass the original one? Yep shirou is wrong , the only thing fake can surpass the original is the cost of mana and quanity with emiya ability . When break , he can instantly trace on a new one but don't forget that mana is limited and emiya don't have a good magical energy as good as rin , his energy is low tier as C if not lower . Also the problem here is rho aias can't protect the user's back , and tristan arow come from many death corner , not only straight shot line like gil Gob so shiled is not the problem here . Emiya is actually extremely skillful? Nah , that because Cú chulain is mid . In the first battle , Cú should have win emiya because his lance is the counter against emiya short blade but no , he couldn't win . The thing cú good at isn't close combat but his speed ( he's faster or at least as fast as medusa in ubw arc ) . Luckily , he did really show his speed in the second battle with emiya after him betrayed shiro group and just nearly win . The only thing i don't understand is why he release his noble phantasm right after then choose to forgive emiya but cú can win without np . Back to the main point , Sir tristan 's attack is dense and just wont give his enemy any room for casting or release their np if they aren't fasst like some of lancer class or rider class ( maybe berserker? Their class have a good dura and they won't need to evade . But just maybe because tristan arrow can easily rip their enemies heart off if they not dodge . Certainly , emiya isn't that fast and has being outspeed by cú chulain and remember that cú chulain speed is at B tier . Btw all tristan 's stats is higher tha emiya 1 or 2 rank . In conclusion , certainly the winner is emiya . Yep u didn't misheard , emiya'll win . Emiya luck is A ( actually S ) and tristan luck is E ( bro tf ) . As u know , luck = plot armor and emiya is just the protagonist of every nasu verse expect where he don't appear and the buff i said wasn't from his weapon but from the story writer. Tristan can only win this fight which have no other influences.
@@hououinkyouma1465 Firstly, no, Shirou's swords were able to break Gilgamesh's, which is mentioned in the VN. Mana isn't exactly an issue for EMIYA like it is for Shirou as he sinply has more mana to pull from or he doesnt need to use as much mana to do things, or a mox of both as seen with him being able summon UBW(which Shirou needed to borrow Rin's mana for) while weakened from not having a master and needing to sustain himself and still not straining himself. Also his Mana is literally a B better than some casters. Just checked the wiki and whatnot, there's nothing about Tristan being able to shoot at angles, just that his arrows are vacuum/wind arrows that goes extremely fast, which can be avoided because Mind's Eye, and if you want to say it's too fast to dodge than Rho Ais still works. Cu Chulainn is like the second most powerful Celtic hero after Scathach as well as the second most skilled, literally Irish Hercules. His strength and speed stats are 2 ranks higher than Emiya's and Emiya can still keep up with him because of Mind's Eye. Diarmuid, who's weaker than Cu, can fight Artoria on even footing and EMIYA stated that Cu was like top 3 in terms of skill when it came to Spearman. As for their two fights, in the first one Lancer was sent to just observe and scout. He used his Noble Phantasm, specifically the thrown one because he caught onto Archer's plan, which was to drain Medea of her mana, which was stated in the VN. Fun fact, Cu was stated to be able to use his NP like 10 times in a row before needing to rest and recharge. Wdym by dense? Again Mind's Eye is a hell of a thing, and EMIYA can force CQC, which he is extremely proficient in. Also, Cu's speed in the Stay/Night series as well as in FGO is *A Rank*. Berserker Heracles stats minimum 2 ranks above EMIYA's except for Mana which is still one rank higher. EMIYA killed Berserker Heracles 6 times, either with or without UBW, and the thing is that if you want to say he used UBW, then you admit that he casted UBW while under pressure from an extremely agressive, faster, and stronger opponent who has better stamina and if not using UBW, he killed Heracles, who is massively stronger and faster and still has much of his skill ingrained into him, 6 times without using UBW, just with weapons he projected mid fight. Also, EMIYA has access to reinforcement, which means he can buff his physical stats, as well as enhance his projections. He literally has Clairvoyance Rank C because of that and Shirou, who's worse than EMIYA at Reinforcement was able to keep up physically with Gilgamesh whose strength is a B. While I know you're just being a hater and whatnot, you aren't exactly wrong with Luck being a certain measure of Plot Armor as it is a ranking of how well someone defies their fate. The only route Archer doesn't get fucked in is the UBW route. In the Fate Route he nearly gets bisected by Saber then while still recovering, fights Heracles and dies. In Heaven's Feel, his spirit origin gets cracked while protecting Rin and the others from the Shadow, and cuts off his arm for it to be grafted to Shirou before he dies.
@suicokarljosephz.6088 David is king Solomons father meaning his fame and mystery are of the highest levels, he is really strong in close range combat to the point he toyed with mash and kiyohime, he even fought nearly on par with Hector. He has a skill called Protection of God that boosts his physical abilities to crazy leveks which allowed him to take a blast from Heracles' Nine Lives and momentarily hold him still, he also has a noble phantasm called the Ark which is a box that instantly k*lls anyone it touches, (even herc lost all his lives by touching it once), he also has telekinesis. He has the Harp of Healing which possesses effects of exorcism and preserves the tranquility of the listeners' minds. His skill with the instrument is such that he is capable of purging mental interference and restoring psychological stability to those who listen to his music. His main noble phantasm is Hamesh Avanim: The Five Stones, it is the sling of David that he used to defeat Goliath, consisting of five decorated stones bound by the line of a sling and normally carried around his waist. It's a hard to evade long range attack that becomes much stronger against giants, it even manage k*ll heracles once. Within the Final Singularity film, it is shown to have the ability to encircle an individual, such as Ritsuka Fujimaru and grant the ability of flight, as well as protect him from incoming attacks like the Demon God Pillar's blast. Arash is compared by Arthur to Sir Tristan, he is a man whose skill allowed him to easily surpass the limits of a bow. Archer can shoot salvos of up to twenty arrows at the same time and each of these has enough power to easily shatter boulders and houses. However, between each of these barrages, a very small pause occurs. He is also seen to launch a much greater barrage if he makes a more extended pause. Arash has a special move from when he was alive which he would be able to momentarily invoke by effectively using his Bow and Arrow Creation Skill without preparing a large number of arrows beforehand. He can release 10,000 arrows that could fill even the sky, and it would be expected that he could’ve killed all of the people who remained in night-time Akihabara with these hands. Even the structures in the middle of Akihabara would be destroyed from the barrage if Arash does not make any adjustments in his aiming. He is stated to be a better archer than even Chiron who can see the future. He is one of the most durable servants able to survive being directly hit by lancelot's Arondight overload (Arondight being a divine construct). He also has clairvoyance and can read people like an open book He was able to even match Lancelot and land multiple hits on him. His noble phantasm is Stella, A famous legend of an arrow shot with all of Arash's might. It is a maximum range, long-range attack that literally "Divides the Earth", bringing an end to all kinds of strife. In legends, the "national borders" between Persia and Turan was created by means of Arash's ultimate arrow, having divided the land. Such ultimate arrow's shooting range is indeed 2500 km. Because of such properties - which does not converge in a single point, it is an Anti-Country Noble Phantasm. However, it can only be employed once for its usage always results in Arash's death, simultaneously destroying him and the Noble Phantasm, and in a sense, it is a "Double Broken Phantasm". It is also probably the second strongest arrow in Fate period.
Arjuna should be stronger than herc remember Arjuna's plot armour EX ability " ENDOWED HERO" which gives him whatever he needs to to complete his tasks . he straight up gonna pull a hax Astra something from his ass shoot herc to the orbit . maybe he might get hydra poison cure and immunity drink too 😜 . and by Mahabharata lore Arjuna become immune to poisons after he got revived by Naga mani ( Snake diamond ) . So Arjuna is most probably only second to Gilgamesh.
Heracles archer's nine lives with the bow of the hydra + god hand are too much for arjuna to handle, that's excluding the fact that archer herc potentially also have other noble phantasms.
@@knightofthelake8112 beg to differ because if Pashupata can easily kill 28 demon god pillars at once, may Zeus help Herc's 12 lives. Remember Gilgamesh even didn't need to use Ea on Herc. Herc wins if he has pandora, if he doesn't he loses against both Arjunq and Gil. He may lose against Gil even with pandora.
@@uselesshero.official Excuse me but this is a weird thing you just said. Yeah pashupata might kill herc sure. But herc can one shot arjuna with a normal attack lol. Herc isn't gonna stay still until arjuna charges his most powerful to it's full power to pull a mutual kill. If herc at his weakest class is stated to be match for saber artoria, then a massively more powerful herc should scale easily above arjuna who was outperformed a weakened charlemagne.
@@knightofthelake8112 that's where the strategy part comes. And no Berserker Herc is not in the same tier as saber Artoria with Avalon, although their raw stats might be comparable.
@@knightofthelake8112 Plus you're making many assumptions like Herc might have other nps but Arjuna won't. Actually we haven't seen an Arher Arjuna in anime while even in lancer class Karna was able to manage so many mini nps and skill in fate apocrypha that even Sieg and Siegfried were having a hard time. There's also this fact that both archer Emiya ( without ubw that is) and weakened saber Artoria ( with caliburn) managed to kill 6 lives of Berserker Herc at once.
@kURo12529 Well he is very versatile so he is rather much more useful based on his intel on the enemy, but in a fight against let's say chiron with no previous knowledge, he'll just get blitzed from the start. Or against tesla if he starts with his np then tesla's anti-fortress EX rank noble phantasm will just fry him instantly
Orion can increase all his strength prion is a giant human hunter in Greece with Artemis he has super human strength the Heroic spirit NP is based on their real status in real life
Nameless/CG emiya negs half this list even Gil nameless has mystic code suit so basically his fp unlock he beat bb fought a beast class kiara etc Cg emiya was said to be counter force for anything n have knowledge of everything + beast class
@@knightofthelake8112 Where brother? Emiya ccc has better effects than gilgamesh ccc, emiya obtained a mystical code that not even gilgamesh could reach, gilgamesh ended up having another mystical code. Emiya can change her stats to EX, gilgamesh and emiya have almost the same feats. When gilgamesh was thrown to another galaxya by BB, gilgamesh had to use a noble phantasm to get back,Emiya did it on speed alone. Emiya gilgamesh ccc>>>>>>>fgo The strongest beings in FGO cannot destroy Avalon, a 6D dimension, Gilgamesh and Emiya are on the same level as BB, an 8D being.
@RaickLopes-hk6vr I can already tell u didn't read the different routes of ccc, first of all Gil and nameless didn't use the same mystic code, each servant u chose uses one based on compatibility with their origin, tamamo uses one to restore her 9 tails, gil uses one to restore his original strength from his myth, nero uses one to access her full potential as the emperor of Rome, the difference between these 3 and nameless is that their mystic codes only restored their original power, nameless on the otherhand had an external buff so it wasn't even his own power in the first place, additionally nothing remotely implies gil couldn't replicate the feat, nameless isn't the only one who did it through speed, tamamo and nero also did it, gil using a ship only reflects his personality which is based on making things easier for himself, he literally had the same stats as them aka the stars and the power to defy the 10 crowns, so it is easily provable that it's a speed feat all of them can replicate buddy. + they defeated BB through luck, they made it clear that her noble phantasm would one shot them if she used it + they were buffed by the magical energy resources from the school. They didn't defeat her because they are stronger, they did cause they had a hax to defy her authority and outside help to defeat her before she can actually fight back. The mystic code nameless had isn't his power, and after obtaining it he was no longer an archer anyway. Ccc gil isn't stronger than fgo, BB is literally an ant compared to ORT or Type earth, even goetia could annihilate her, should I remind you that even in extra ccc, BB wasn't even the strongest antagonist (even though she is way stronger than the mc servants), kiara later in the story surpassed BB and she was still considered weaker than buddha.
@@knightofthelake8112 im jealous with someone who have a playstation to play fate ccc :< i lost in most of the death battle due to haven't read fate ccc . Also big thanks to you who bring such a useful knowledge .
@@knightofthelake8112 I don't remember ever even implying, that Emiya is the strongest archer. Although, looking at this top, I guees, I should not be surprised by you putting words in my mouth.
@@fruktoid6950 Oh yeah don't worry. You don't have to imply it, I've already seen more than enough of your comments to know that arguing with you is harder than wrestling an elephant.
@@knightofthelake8112 it only seems hard, when you are an obvious Emiya downplayer, who considers Gilgamesh to be the strongest/second strongest archer and likes to put his own words into the mouths of others. Your top has other flaws, but I suppose, I should not trouble you with something as hard as wrestling an elephant. Believe what you will.
Super Orion here is considered as a Grand Servant.
Ashwattama and Arjuna are interchangeable.
Good list
@knightofthelake8112 that's ok Ashwattama is cooler than him anyway arjuna had no honor and karna would have beat him fair and square lol.
@@namelessvoid9725if you are talking about real life mythology then please go first and read actually what happened before saying Arjuna had no honor.
Orion has the funniest NP whenever Artemis choke him.
For me that would be Jason, the atalante kick is priceless
@@knightofthelake8112 Hahaha😂
@@knightofthelake8112 in short the argonauts have the funniest np's
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Orion's voice actor (same as Cu's) is awesome. In the serious versions of the NP, you can feel his devotion to Artemis, and in the goofy version, he absolutely nails the humor.
Shirou with Archer Card alone can solo a holy grail war in Fate/Kaleid
Class cards are weaker than the actual servants except for shirou's archer card because of the compatibility between the user and the servant
and it funny because the feat of fate kaleid shirou was a reference to the statement from nasu that gil could finish the stay night grail war in one day if he was serious
bro thats not 12 servants thats 13 😅 grand servants are still considered "servants"
I know that this will be controversial, but I think EMIYA should have been on here.
I honestly can't have him here unless you give me a reason why he'd be here
@@knightofthelake8112 Aside from the fact that he is a NP spammer in fgo with his skills, the feats that he did during the fate routes even taking down your number 1. While I know if he was serious from the beginning that wouldn’t be the case, the fact that pride is the key factor for his defeat proves that. Not only that I’ll refer you to someone who has done the research on why EMIYA should be considered:
ruclips.net/video/lTsGBr92HIU/видео.htmlsi=Aif3k-uc73qGBf_7 and
ruclips.net/video/tbv_040Uj1Y/видео.htmlsi=YN9BCG0oWrDMN8b8
@jaylonchachere2424
I appreciate the reasoning but there's a huge problem in emiya's case, that being speed, emiya gets consistently blitzed by stay night cu, chiron who is the weakest here was reacting and took down Achilles' chariot while it was moving at the speed of light. David fought on par with Hector and one shotted herc with his second noble phantasm, tesla stated he could one shot America with his noble phantasm.
Emiya has great showings depending on his plan, but with equal conditions in an empty area with no outside interventions he is not beating anyone in this list.
@@knightofthelake8112 I feel like EMIYA should be on the list due to hacks(projecting noble phantasms) but you are correct with the fact that EMIYA struggled in every close up matches. But damn is UBW and copying noble phantasms like rulebreaker making me question.
if only Karna was summoned as Archer he would've been at least at top 3
There's archer kama on fgo arcade
@@xenolulsifer karna as per real mythology is an demi god who uses bow as his main weapon and he was so much powerful than arjuna that multiple gods had to curse karna, his sun god shield being taken away and him not using his ultimate attack against arjuna due to his promise to his mother as he blood related brother of arjuna that was left by his mother so he was elder and superior to arjuna in every way. But he was on the wrong side(i.e against the god and goodness itself) that is why he had to die for goodness to prevail. He himself was really a honest and charitable person though.
@@elitegamer8008u are wrong.
In terms of pure skills Arjuna was the best Archer.
Karna just has Hax which basically made him immortal.
There were many instances where that shield of his saved his life against Arjuna
So god's have to take out those things first and they did gave him another boon in Return.
Though he ended up using that against ghatotkach
@@pratyush8741yeah, but overall karna would win 10/10 times, because of his bow,armour, he can't loose with his bow in his hand,nothing can pierce his armour in myth.
Huh, I was expecting EMIYA to be included on the list but I guess I was wrong
Honestly I would place him above Tristan and Nobu
Ccc Emiya is stronger than most of them
my opinion Emiya said himself is Magician, as for Gilgamesh strong but not true Archer.
As a new fate fan ive been told that nobunaga was way more stronger than archer gilgamesh so what made you put her so low ?
Nobunaga gets stronger against divine enemies, but her basic power is barely around okita's, even when buffed she still struggles against opponents like demon god pillars, ryouma and kagetora, gilgamesh on the otherhand was easily dealing with the eleven off springs of tiamat who are as strong as demon god pillars, + anyone above Nobunaga in this list can one shot her with their noble phantasm due to the massive difference in raw power.
nobunaga againt non divine enemies is weaker than you think if she uses it against divine gods she will become way stronger
I see a lot of people overrating Gilgamesh to be honest, he surely has incredible power BUT... he's still an idiot egomaniac, basically he would loose a match coz he cares too much about pride and stuff and being king, shit like that. He could never resist to Nobunaga' Sixth Heaven, he would also understimate her and condemning himself to the downfall. That's the difference between a commander and a king, Nobu knows pretty well to not understimate her opponents or it would sign her downfall, Gilgamesh doesn't... That's why he also lost to Shirō.
Nah , that pride is the effective from that era . Arccher gil may too arrogant but not that let him lose against anyone . And u ask for why him losing? go check who is the main protagonist of ubw and heaven's feel
You misunderstand Gilgamesh's character his arrogance is based on the fact that "Mongrels" are aiming for his treasure he used to have when he was alive aka the Holy Grail and so he sees people who want to steal his treasure as Irrelevant and unworthy of attention + When he saw the state of the holy grail he understood the state of humanity and as he is clearly the overseer of humanity it angered him that humanity had fallen to such a state and had become so malicious
That's true. Even though Gil's kit makes him one of the best anti-Servant Servants, he probably would lose pretty handily to Nobu's NP. It's well-positioned to counter Gate of Babylon like Unlimited Blade Works is, and she has an anti-Divine bonus on top of that. Whipping out Ea right off the bat would still take care of Nobu, but Gil's far too prideful to ever do that.
Thanks for knowing more than me as far as fate goes
Gilgamesh is stronger than Orion as well. He’s just not the grand archer because I honestly forgot why. Something to do with the way he sees humanity
Orion here is ranked with his grand saint graph. With a grand saint graph Orion is stronger than any normal servant.
@@knightofthelake8112 so you’re telling me he’s complex multiverse level? Try your best to avoid spoilers. I’m in China LB3
@@ACagedBird364
That's not how it works in Fate.
Gilgamesh has more fire power and abilities.
But because super Orion is a grand servant, he has a grand saint graph, and therefore automatically outclasses Gilgamesh who has a regular saint graph.
Stuff like complex multiverse is really nothing but nonsense so try not to waste your time thinking about it.
@@ACagedBird364not exactly, what makes Orion technically stronger is that his spirit core is abnormally powerful when summoned as a Grand Archer, his core is basically buffed by Alaya or the Counterforce or whatever, making his saint graph so overpowered that it isn’t even funny, but there is a valid reason their saint graphs are altered to be so powerful, they’re meant to take out beasts of humanity and therefore their saint graphs are fed mana roids so they can effectively murder whatever target they’re sent after.
@@TryingForSomethingNew Where are you getting this information? Do they explain this in the story? I’m only at Lostbelt 3. But imagine needed to be summoned as a grand servant to take down beasts of humanity when Gilgamesh already goes that.
Isn’t King Hassan a grand assassin?
Top class Saber pls🙏
Please do Berserker’s
Grand Berserker: Florence Nightingale
If Karna was the Archer 💀
What is this song?
@@thefakerking51
After Dark
@@knightofthelake8112 thank you!
Arjuna's nps can kill archer heracles since he has divine bow and bomb. Would put him equal to or above heracles. Featwise hes shown to kill 28 demon gods in one blow. Tank ishtar's np head on with low mana support in babylonia manga.
@@bluemoon9683
Arjuna's np bring enough to kill herc doesn't mean he should be on par or above him, herc can kill arjuna without even using nine lives.
@@knightofthelake8112 arjuna's divine bow can also kill herc so his pelt won't work since its a divine bow. Moreover if arjuna can tank an A++ NP from a servant buffed by their homeland then herc would definitely need something powerful to kill him. He'd be relative if not higher than herc on the list.
Arash is only one level behind the gods
And he also claims to be a MIRROR heroic spirit
Gilgamesh solos (if he's actually traying)
Nah, Ashwathama Solos
La fuente de tu información
no not really he have a normal graph meanwhile orion have grand saint graph making his raw capabilities and power stronger than any normal server even gilgamesh even then gilgamesh is almost as powerful as orion imagine if gilgamesh obtains a grand saint graph
Imo as a counter guardian emiya should be higher. He literally has authority to use alaya's powers
He doesn't have authority, the counterforce gives him power necessary to deal with the threat, and mostly in that case he wouldn't be limited to an "archer" class container
Archer Herc is the strongest imo. Just by the fact the author refused to let us know how strong he really is before nefting him to avenger, even as an avenger he's an absolute beast and can toe to toe vs Gil so in his best class as an archer, he should dominates everyone in here
I mean in Strange/Fake Heracles being a pseudo archer/avenger us actually what makes him such a beast. Hell he's even able to steal other servant NP and immune to hydra poison because he's part avenger. Literally getting the benefits of 2 classes
Yes but he lost his 12 lifes
Nope he didn't go toe to toe with Gilgamesh , he was about to lose against gob so I don't even see how he could potentially win if Gil used ea
@@hypeman1021 how did he lose to gob ?? Are you making shit up ? Gob didn’t harm anything of him, the lion skin and a single blow of Herc swinging the bow are enough to negate everything Gil threw at him. He even told Gil to release his strongest weapon aka EA since gob stand no chance against a monster like Herc
@whitelyly970
In the first fight gil was just messing around, in their second fight gil was aiming his gob to the gaps in the lion skin making alcides work even harder to block any fatale blow, gil literally bitch slapped one of his arrows with nothing but his gauntlet + gil started then seriously using gate of babylon causing alcides to use nine lives aka his strongest attack just to match it (herc btw was boosted by Jack's noble phantasm)
Gil is not defeating archer herc 🌚
He actually can
Heracles It's the Avengers
I know I'm on top
Finalmente veo a alguin de habla inglesa que si sabe leer y entiende como funciona el nasuverso
Super Orion Is not a Grand Servant After LB5
I think napoleon should be included here
Hmm... if we are talking about raw power then sure, but as a heroic spirit I can't put a human among heroes with high levels of mystery like these.
How are any of these guys Archers? There's not a single red trenchcoated guy wielding swords in the bunch.
Cause he is a BUM 😭
What feats david even have to put him before Chiron and Tristan? Now Zhou yu and Alcides should be up there too
@DeadApostleAncestor10
David fought Hector in cqc, + his np killed herc once and he literally has a king hassan in a box to one shot anyone, so anyone who can't straight up overpower him is basically not winning against David.
Alcides is a mixed archer/avenger so I didn't count him, Zhou yu is honestly not qualified to be on this list in my opinion, why do you think he is in any way on the level of the guys in this list?
@@knightofthelake8112 Fair enough explanation for David
Still I would count Alcides as a archer because he can qualify for it nonetheless
Zhou yu literally has a reality marble and was able to hold off samson he has enough battle iq and iq to and can maintain a good distance with his opponent also chain that he can pull off from anywhere within his reality marble maybe not in this top 12 but reality marbles are still a great source of mystery solved I would say he is definitely up there
Also Kali and Durga are here too now she should be above Ishtar because chief goddess but we never saw enough feats from her so I would say below her ig? Ptolemy weakening Typhon and allat
@@knightofthelake8112Oh also just noticed Super orion above Gilgamesh? 😭
He ain't a grand anymore so idk why we including him as one among these I thought it was just servants? But if not then Gilgamesh is top 1 no debate
This list seems l over the place when I am watching it rn again like if it's not just servant variant then why is Gilgamesh below Super orion? Ishtar a goddess below Arjuna? Ash even what is this even based off
@DeadApostleAncestor10
Super Orion here was considered as his grand archer variant just for the fun of it, since he is the only grand archer we got.
Ishtar in this list is the pseudo servant one, the one with an archer container, in which case she has no feats above arjuna whatsoever, even their noble phantasms, arjuna's is superior.
Ashwattama is stated to be as strong if not stronger than karna, which is shy he is above arjuna (karna's equal)
Kali and Durga are in the jp version only, so I can't get much informations about them.
Wait isnt Heracles is berserks and avengers?
At first he wasn't summoned as an archer in strange fake, then got corrupted to an Avenger
Well fgo better add that option in to the game like they did with 3 stars assassin's
Where is baobhan sith?
I can't put her anywhere on this list
Only if karna was summoned as an archer class 😔
Song name?
After dark - Mr kitty
How is Hercules archer type wasnt he berserker
In strange fake he was summoned as an archer then altered into an avenger
Me sorprendió no ver a Emiya o a Emiya alter, aunque es cierto que sus estadísticas le quitan demasiado
How come gil isnt a grand archer ?
@@xyzbeast1982
Did you ever hear about gil being the greatest bowman who can hit anything?
@@knightofthelake8112 no but i would assume his streangh alone would meet the conditions , but now that you mention it what are the conditions for all the classes
@xyzbeast1982
It is not about strength but more so the skill required to take down the threat.
Against koyanskaya a beast hunter was required which is why Orion was the one called.
Against Zeus a man said to be the foundation of a civilization was required which is why Romulus was summoned.
Grand assassin should either be the best assassin or a person very connected to death, which is why king hassan and tezcatlipoca were the choices.
Grand caster needs a powerful clairvoyance, which us why merlin, gilgamesh and solomon are the candidates for it.
As for Grand saber and berserker it's just a known sword that defeats evil and someone who embodies madness
@@knightofthelake8112 i get it, i have 1 question tho so since saber class is based on being a master swordsman and lance is about being a master spear man, is assasin based on being able to kill witgout being noteced ?
@xyzbeast1982
Not really, it depends on who they are summoned to fight against sometimes.
So while the grand saber needs to be a character known for a Holy sword that defeats evil, that requirement may change to the strongest samurai if the enemy to humanity is some old evil samurai, that kinda stuff you know. For example grand archer should be the best archer, in thus case arash would be, but since koyanskaya was a demonic beast fusion, the requirement became the greatest beast hunter ever aka Orion.
For grand assassin usually the requirement is being related to death, which is why hassan and tez both fill the requirements.
You missed the second spot . The nameless archer.
Look, Emiya is strong, but he's not beating Archer Heracles nor some of the ones that came before. Gilgamesh destroys him by pulling out Ea. If we're talking about overall power, he's maybe above Tristan and Nobunaga. When it comes to overall combat ability then he may be able to get higher
@@prehistoriccreator9600 brother i dont think so . Emiya not that strong , the most strong thing he can do is counter against Gob , one of the best counter to Gob . His weapon and skill are almost fake and it's jusst too hard for him to win against sir tristan . Tríatan bow is just too op that emiya have no chance to open or casting his ubw . maybe in real fight type moon will buff him ( protangonist , of course ) but a match against sir tristan is just too difficult
@@hououinkyouma1465 First off, ubw isn't the only thing EMIYA has, it's just his most powerful thing. He can still fire swords rapidly just less efficiently. He also has access to multiple Noble Phantasms including Rho Ais, which has a conceptual advantage against projectiles, extremely useful against Archers.
He's also able to mimic the strength and skill of the weapon he's using and is actually extremely skillful as complimented by Cu Chulainn, but has an inferiority complex and no pride in his skills. He has Mind's Eye, which allows him to keep up with faster and stronger opponents, as well as reinforcement to enhance himself along with buffs he can recieve from weapons(yes he does get buffs from some weapons).
Besides, what does his weapons being fake have to do with anything anyway? I mean, who said a fake can't surpass the original?
Also, he could most definitely cast UBW during the fight. He doesn't really need much room to breathe as he doesn't need to do the full chant to summon it unlike other Shirous and it really isn't that hard to believe he could make enough room to say 4 short lines, especially when he has one of the best shields in Fate.
@@prehistoriccreator9600 hmm , i think u are wrong in this point : shirou said fake can surpass the original one? Yep shirou is wrong , the only thing fake can surpass the original is the cost of mana and quanity with emiya ability . When break , he can instantly trace on a new one but don't forget that mana is limited and emiya don't have a good magical energy as good as rin , his energy is low tier as C if not lower . Also the problem here is rho aias can't protect the user's back , and tristan arow come from many death corner , not only straight shot line like gil Gob so shiled is not the problem here .
Emiya is actually extremely skillful? Nah , that because Cú chulain is mid . In the first battle , Cú should have win emiya because his lance is the counter against emiya short blade but no , he couldn't win . The thing cú good at isn't close combat but his speed ( he's faster or at least as fast as medusa in ubw arc ) . Luckily , he did really show his speed in the second battle with emiya after him betrayed shiro group and just nearly win . The only thing i don't understand is why he release his noble phantasm right after then choose to forgive emiya but cú can win without np .
Back to the main point , Sir tristan 's attack is dense and just wont give his enemy any room for casting or release their np if they aren't fasst like some of lancer class or rider class ( maybe berserker? Their class have a good dura and they won't need to evade . But just maybe because tristan arrow can easily rip their enemies heart off if they not dodge . Certainly , emiya isn't that fast and has being outspeed by cú chulain and remember that cú chulain speed is at B tier . Btw all tristan 's stats is higher tha emiya 1 or 2 rank .
In conclusion , certainly the winner is emiya . Yep u didn't misheard , emiya'll win . Emiya luck is A ( actually S ) and tristan luck is E ( bro tf ) . As u know , luck = plot armor and emiya is just the protagonist of every nasu verse expect where he don't appear and the buff i said wasn't from his weapon but from the story writer. Tristan can only win this fight which have no other influences.
@@hououinkyouma1465 Firstly, no, Shirou's swords were able to break Gilgamesh's, which is mentioned in the VN. Mana isn't exactly an issue for EMIYA like it is for Shirou as he sinply has more mana to pull from or he doesnt need to use as much mana to do things, or a mox of both as seen with him being able summon UBW(which Shirou needed to borrow Rin's mana for) while weakened from not having a master and needing to sustain himself and still not straining himself. Also his Mana is literally a B better than some casters. Just checked the wiki and whatnot, there's nothing about Tristan being able to shoot at angles, just that his arrows are vacuum/wind arrows that goes extremely fast, which can be avoided because Mind's Eye, and if you want to say it's too fast to dodge than Rho Ais still works.
Cu Chulainn is like the second most powerful Celtic hero after Scathach as well as the second most skilled, literally Irish Hercules. His strength and speed stats are 2 ranks higher than Emiya's and Emiya can still keep up with him because of Mind's Eye. Diarmuid, who's weaker than Cu, can fight Artoria on even footing and EMIYA stated that Cu was like top 3 in terms of skill when it came to Spearman. As for their two fights, in the first one Lancer was sent to just observe and scout. He used his Noble Phantasm, specifically the thrown one because he caught onto Archer's plan, which was to drain Medea of her mana, which was stated in the VN. Fun fact, Cu was stated to be able to use his NP like 10 times in a row before needing to rest and recharge.
Wdym by dense? Again Mind's Eye is a hell of a thing, and EMIYA can force CQC, which he is extremely proficient in. Also, Cu's speed in the Stay/Night series as well as in FGO is *A Rank*. Berserker Heracles stats minimum 2 ranks above EMIYA's except for Mana which is still one rank higher. EMIYA killed Berserker Heracles 6 times, either with or without UBW, and the thing is that if you want to say he used UBW, then you admit that he casted UBW while under pressure from an extremely agressive, faster, and stronger opponent who has better stamina and if not using UBW, he killed Heracles, who is massively stronger and faster and still has much of his skill ingrained into him, 6 times without using UBW, just with weapons he projected mid fight. Also, EMIYA has access to reinforcement, which means he can buff his physical stats, as well as enhance his projections. He literally has Clairvoyance Rank C because of that and Shirou, who's worse than EMIYA at Reinforcement was able to keep up physically with Gilgamesh whose strength is a B.
While I know you're just being a hater and whatnot, you aren't exactly wrong with Luck being a certain measure of Plot Armor as it is a ranking of how well someone defies their fate. The only route Archer doesn't get fucked in is the UBW route. In the Fate Route he nearly gets bisected by Saber then while still recovering, fights Heracles and dies. In Heaven's Feel, his spirit origin gets cracked while protecting Rin and the others from the Shadow, and cuts off his arm for it to be grafted to Shirou before he dies.
Karna? 💀
Did you see any archer karna in fgo? I didn't 😅
Emia be like: what about me
nothing , i guess 🐧
Alive Gil > Orion > Archer Class
Yeah no
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Emiya archer, karna>>
And again arash is the only pne with a bow
Chiron, heracles, Orion, arjuna, ishtar XD
なんのデータに基づいているのか。完全に主の好みのように感じる。
Can someone explain me why david and arash are strong? Im new
@suicokarljosephz.6088
David is king Solomons father meaning his fame and mystery are of the highest levels, he is really strong in close range combat to the point he toyed with mash and kiyohime, he even fought nearly on par with Hector. He has a skill called Protection of God that boosts his physical abilities to crazy leveks which allowed him to take a blast from Heracles' Nine Lives and momentarily hold him still, he also has a noble phantasm called the Ark which is a box that instantly k*lls anyone it touches, (even herc lost all his lives by touching it once), he also has telekinesis. He has the Harp of Healing which possesses effects of exorcism and preserves the tranquility of the listeners' minds. His skill with the instrument is such that he is capable of purging mental interference and restoring psychological stability to those who listen to his music.
His main noble phantasm is Hamesh Avanim: The Five Stones, it is the sling of David that he used to defeat Goliath, consisting of five decorated stones bound by the line of a sling and normally carried around his waist. It's a hard to evade long range attack that becomes much stronger against giants, it even manage k*ll heracles once.
Within the Final Singularity film, it is shown to have the ability to encircle an individual, such as Ritsuka Fujimaru and grant the ability of flight, as well as protect him from incoming attacks like the Demon God Pillar's blast.
Arash is compared by Arthur to Sir Tristan, he is a man whose skill allowed him to easily surpass the limits of a bow. Archer can shoot salvos of up to twenty arrows at the same time and each of these has enough power to easily shatter boulders and houses. However, between each of these barrages, a very small pause occurs. He is also seen to launch a much greater barrage if he makes a more extended pause.
Arash has a special move from when he was alive which he would be able to momentarily invoke by effectively using his Bow and Arrow Creation Skill without preparing a large number of arrows beforehand. He can release 10,000 arrows that could fill even the sky, and it would be expected that he could’ve killed all of the people who remained in night-time Akihabara with these hands. Even the structures in the middle of Akihabara would be destroyed from the barrage if Arash does not make any adjustments in his aiming.
He is stated to be a better archer than even Chiron who can see the future.
He is one of the most durable servants able to survive being directly hit by lancelot's Arondight overload (Arondight being a divine construct).
He also has clairvoyance and can read people like an open book
He was able to even match Lancelot and land multiple hits on him.
His noble phantasm is Stella, A famous legend of an arrow shot with all of Arash's might. It is a maximum range, long-range attack that literally "Divides the Earth", bringing an end to all kinds of strife.
In legends, the "national borders" between Persia and Turan was created by means of Arash's ultimate arrow, having divided the land. Such ultimate arrow's shooting range is indeed 2500 km.
Because of such properties - which does not converge in a single point, it is an Anti-Country Noble Phantasm. However, it can only be employed once for its usage always results in Arash's death, simultaneously destroying him and the Noble Phantasm, and in a sense, it is a "Double Broken Phantasm". It is also probably the second strongest arrow in Fate period.
What about karna
Did you see an archer karna somewhere in fate? 😅
Arjuna should be stronger than herc remember Arjuna's plot armour EX ability " ENDOWED HERO" which gives him whatever he needs to to complete his tasks . he straight up gonna pull a hax Astra something from his ass shoot herc to the orbit . maybe he might get hydra poison cure and immunity drink too 😜 . and by Mahabharata lore Arjuna become immune to poisons after he got revived by Naga mani ( Snake diamond ) . So Arjuna is most probably only second to Gilgamesh.
Why is chiron not a divine spirit? Isn't he like half titan?
He lost most of his divinity along with his immortality after he got poisoned by the hydra venom.
@@knightofthelake8112 thanks, was confused about that one.
Arjuna stronger archer than Heracles because Herc's hax that makes him superior to Arjuna works if he's in avenger class. Thanks.
Heracles archer's nine lives with the bow of the hydra + god hand are too much for arjuna to handle, that's excluding the fact that archer herc potentially also have other noble phantasms.
@@knightofthelake8112 beg to differ because if Pashupata can easily kill 28 demon god pillars at once, may Zeus help Herc's 12 lives. Remember Gilgamesh even didn't need to use Ea on Herc. Herc wins if he has pandora, if he doesn't he loses against both Arjunq and Gil. He may lose against Gil even with pandora.
@@uselesshero.official
Excuse me but this is a weird thing you just said.
Yeah pashupata might kill herc sure.
But herc can one shot arjuna with a normal attack lol.
Herc isn't gonna stay still until arjuna charges his most powerful to it's full power to pull a mutual kill.
If herc at his weakest class is stated to be match for saber artoria, then a massively more powerful herc should scale easily above arjuna who was outperformed a weakened charlemagne.
@@knightofthelake8112 that's where the strategy part comes. And no Berserker Herc is not in the same tier as saber Artoria with Avalon, although their raw stats might be comparable.
@@knightofthelake8112 Plus you're making many assumptions like Herc might have other nps but Arjuna won't. Actually we haven't seen an Arher Arjuna in anime while even in lancer class Karna was able to manage so many mini nps and skill in fate apocrypha that even Sieg and Siegfried were having a hard time. There's also this fact that both archer Emiya ( without ubw that is) and weakened saber Artoria ( with caliburn) managed to kill 6 lives of Berserker Herc at once.
Gilgamesh vence super Orion
Archer emiya?
Doesn't qualify here, he either gets blitzed or straight up overpowered in a noble phantasm clash
@@knightofthelake8112 he pretty weak then ,😐
@kURo12529
Well he is very versatile so he is rather much more useful based on his intel on the enemy, but in a fight against let's say chiron with no previous knowledge, he'll just get blitzed from the start. Or against tesla if he starts with his np then tesla's anti-fortress EX rank noble phantasm will just fry him instantly
incredible status + self buff NP+ higher lvl saint grape's buff = Bro what??
Excuse me? XD
Orion can increase all his strength prion is a giant human hunter in Greece with Artemis he has super human strength the Heroic spirit NP is based on their real status in real life
Artemis is a goddess of hunting
Emia is the strongest can't change my mind
Nameless/CG emiya negs half this list even Gil nameless has mystic code suit so basically his fp unlock he beat bb fought a beast class kiara etc
Cg emiya was said to be counter force for anything n have knowledge of everything + beast class
Where emiya?
Too weak to be here
@@knightofthelake8112 aff iyh
@@takabashi529
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@@knightofthelake8112and You still put a 1 Star in the top xD
@@araragrainos7292
Stars have nothing to do with strength
Where karna ??
ARCHER CLASS SERVANT*
@@knightofthelake8112bro in mythology he is an archer🥶
If you are keeping Gil there then you are surely using CCC version, then I think you should also keep CCC EMIYA right below him no?
No this is just archer gil
Where is emiya he can beat Gil you know
Hmm... XD
You joking right?
@@knightofthelake8112 no I'm not
@@knightofthelake8112 before Shiro became archer he manage to fight Gilgamesh in fate UBW
@@DarkSchneider-g5w
Yeah so?
How is he surviving against even chiron? He would get blitzed
@@knightofthelake8112 watch bro
The guy had the courage not to put Emiya in second lol.
Soon Emiya is at the same level as BB and easily beats Hercules
No archer class servant is BB level.
@@knightofthelake8112 Where brother? Emiya ccc has better effects than gilgamesh ccc, emiya obtained a mystical code that not even gilgamesh could reach, gilgamesh ended up having another mystical code.
Emiya can change her stats to EX, gilgamesh and emiya have almost the same feats.
When gilgamesh was thrown to another galaxya by BB, gilgamesh had to use a noble phantasm to get back,Emiya did it on speed alone.
Emiya gilgamesh ccc>>>>>>>fgo
The strongest beings in FGO cannot destroy Avalon, a 6D dimension, Gilgamesh and Emiya are on the same level as BB, an 8D being.
lost to heracles nerfed in artoria route are u kidding me? even with the plot armor of having the body of the protangonist ( shirou ) and still losing
@RaickLopes-hk6vr
I can already tell u didn't read the different routes of ccc, first of all Gil and nameless didn't use the same mystic code, each servant u chose uses one based on compatibility with their origin, tamamo uses one to restore her 9 tails, gil uses one to restore his original strength from his myth, nero uses one to access her full potential as the emperor of Rome, the difference between these 3 and nameless is that their mystic codes only restored their original power, nameless on the otherhand had an external buff so it wasn't even his own power in the first place, additionally nothing remotely implies gil couldn't replicate the feat, nameless isn't the only one who did it through speed, tamamo and nero also did it, gil using a ship only reflects his personality which is based on making things easier for himself, he literally had the same stats as them aka the stars and the power to defy the 10 crowns, so it is easily provable that it's a speed feat all of them can replicate buddy.
+ they defeated BB through luck, they made it clear that her noble phantasm would one shot them if she used it + they were buffed by the magical energy resources from the school. They didn't defeat her because they are stronger, they did cause they had a hax to defy her authority and outside help to defeat her before she can actually fight back.
The mystic code nameless had isn't his power, and after obtaining it he was no longer an archer anyway.
Ccc gil isn't stronger than fgo, BB is literally an ant compared to ORT or Type earth, even goetia could annihilate her, should I remind you that even in extra ccc, BB wasn't even the strongest antagonist (even though she is way stronger than the mc servants), kiara later in the story surpassed BB and she was still considered weaker than buddha.
@@knightofthelake8112 im jealous with someone who have a playstation to play fate ccc :< i lost in most of the death battle due to haven't read fate ccc . Also big thanks to you who bring such a useful knowledge .
Emiya If he is serious>Gilgamesh
Nice joke🤣🤣
@@daemianne8122it's real
Horrible top
Yeah according to you emiya should be number 1, so sorry 😞
@@knightofthelake8112 I don't remember ever even implying, that Emiya is the strongest archer.
Although, looking at this top, I guees, I should not be surprised by you putting words in my mouth.
@@fruktoid6950
Oh yeah don't worry.
You don't have to imply it, I've already seen more than enough of your comments to know that arguing with you is harder than wrestling an elephant.
@@knightofthelake8112 it only seems hard, when you are an obvious Emiya downplayer, who considers Gilgamesh to be the strongest/second strongest archer and likes to put his own words into the mouths of others.
Your top has other flaws, but I suppose, I should not trouble you with something as hard as wrestling an elephant.
Believe what you will.
@@fruktoid6950
Its great that we agree on something 👍
emiya > all
Me when i lie