Achieving Boss RC-505 functionality in Ableton
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2021
- A guide to using some routing and effect racks to acheive a similar functionality to a Boss RC-505.
A link to the downloadable template is here:
drive.google.com/file/d/1NTEh...
Hats off to this fresh approach! I'd been combining clips and Looper devices as well, but will definitely look into incorporating this technique. The only thing that surprises me is how little views this video got. Pure gold; keep up the good work!!!
Final piece indeed. Thanks man, good stuff 👏 👏 👏
Amazingly useful video!
man! looking for that shit for a month!!!! you saved me, thanks
Thanks for making the vid
I believe this workflow can hugely profit from some M4L magic... like a small interface that unifies the loopers' buttons, and has a button to to the following for each looper in one click:
1. copy clip to dedicated looper track and hit play on it
2. wait for next bar
3. clear looper
I would love this too! I have no idea how to use M4L sadly... The other I would put on my wish list is being able to see the display of all the loopers at the same time, as that visual loop information is very very useful!
If you would program a M4L device like that, it would be awesome if you could share it! I am looking forward for that since AGES *-*
@@slimmestcharlest Maybe I can have a look, this would be such a great feature to have in Ableton!
@@midierror :o please if you think you can do something with it, go for it and keep me (an others) in.... The loop. Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
How do you reduce the volume on the RETURN track?
having the 4 Looper Chains increases the volume by a lot
Thanks for sharing! Huge Rebillet fan myself as well :) Been wondering how to achieve something like this in Live
Thanks a bunch! Marc has really inspired my creativity. It's not as freely workable as his set up, but I find it to be a pretty good compromise :)
thanks stoked to check this out, and have been exploring htis myself which much less patience. OBL is good too (One button looper ) except the main challenge is having non tempo sync looped. Looper can do it well but just so much to wrap my head around and how to record it all at once :)
Very cool. Looking for all the different ways to setup live looping in Ableton. This is an interesting approach. I saw elsewhere that another approach to setup multiple loopers is drop each onto there on return tracks. So say for a 4-channel looper, you would have 4 return tracks with a looper in each. Then send instruments and audio tracks at whatever level you want to whatever looper you want.
great idea, thanks!
Thank you!
brilliant!
Hey, thanks for this. I made something similar for Logic about 9 years ago using stock Delay plugins set to max 10 seconds; now I'm firmly an Ableton guy.
One question: what's the Macro knob for? Or rather, how are you using it?
If your only goal is to switch the time signature, you can just rename the play button of each scene for instance 70 BPM. Then the whole scene will change tempo to 70 BPM.
How do you reduce the volume on the RETURN track?
having the 4 Looper Chains increases the volume by a lot
trying to figure that out too
I tend to add a "Limiter" device at the end of the chain as a rule, unless I have a good excuse not to. Indeed, when stacking vocals, it can get a bit much if you don't cap the output.
@@jaytee213
Probably that's too late, and not sure if I guessed the issue correctly -
but maybe switching that "input-output" to "never" can help?
Hey, thanks for showing/explaining this. I m wondering if you found a way to copy some of the RC505 effects, too? Because for me it seems impossible to achieve "Boss RC 505 functionality" concerning the "Guitar to bass", "Octaver" and "Transpose" effects!! First, i m not even sure which plugin to use - secondly, plugins like the Max4Life pitch shifter add MASSIVE latency to the vocals... which absolutely ruins the timing, and therefore the 'functionality'.
I got you dawg. Jam Origin midi guitar The latency is unbelievable
try pichproof
@@musicmoonshine hello thanks for the hint, i might try it, but i actually gave up on adding effects pre-recording via VST in Ableton. Instead i use Roland VT-4 now, which has awesome sounding pitch effects. Only after recording i then add all kinds of effects , e.g. WAVES Ovox. Also, instead of the looper-plugin i use normal Clip-Recording, because i prefer having the nice overview it gives - and with a m4l plugin called clip-length-recorder it's possible to pre-determine the recorded clip length in advance (it's also possible with launchpad pro/push2 ofc, but i dont use those). Only for Overdub i have to use the Looperplugin. Really Hope Ableton gets updated for Audio-Overdub someday. What a basic function, my god. NIce live-session on your channel btw
@@sternenherz I use the looper plugin, if the song is stopped, you can use it to determine the song tempo there's an m4l plugin that displays their status as a popup
@@musicmoonshine you mean there's a plugin-popup window showing the status of several looper plugins at the same time? how is it called? :)
YES
Hey man. Thank you for this!
Has anyone found a way to see all of the loopers at once? I'm new to Ableton but I'm pretty good with coding/technology so if there IS a way to do this - I'm absolutely going to figure it out! Just need to know where to start... haha.
i dont know if you found a solution, but you should check Max Live. You can do a lot of things with this :) it's a feature in Ableton Live. I think you have to pay for it !! If you achieve to do something with it let me know :)
looking for the same thing....didnt find...what i do is i map to each looper a midi that "shows" the looper - and i map it to the same button i use for record - so that way - whenever i click a button (on my nectar pacer) to record looper A - it will show looper A - then i swtich to B -it will show looper B etc
Amazing, Bro!!! Been fiddling with versions of this for years. I'm also using Launchpad Pro mk3. Is there a Components template that's sharable? Or a video that shows your LP workflow? Thanks again /|\
Hey mate! Thanks, glad you are enjoying it! My components custom set up is really simple: you could make it in five minutes. I have all the buttons for each looper in a vertical column, then I replicate that column from left to right four times (with a blank column in between, to stop my fat fingers from pressing two buttons by accident). The in each column (looper) are midi mapped in this order
1. Record/overdub, I also assign this button the looper device itself (in midi mapping mode, click where it says "looper" on the device itself. This means that when you hit the record button, the view will snap to this specific looper, allowing you to see the visual info on it.
2. Undo
Blank
3.clear
Blank
4. Stop
Blank
5. Device on/off (assign the looper device on off in the effect rack, it's the orange button)
All the buttons are CC's set to momentary, except for the mute button which I set to toggle and a different colour :)
@@slimmestcharlest Just dove into this! I discovered that device on/off will stop the loop, so I added a Utility to each Looper and mapped the mute button from there instead. The blank columns are also handy to use as vertical faders for volume control... With the remaining 3 buttons used as send effects... Freaking love the LP Pro mk3! Feels like I'm finally getting my live rig dialed in!
Nice tutorial. Would be cool to see a performance in action because it seems fiddly as-is
Good point, I might put up an demo tomorrow :)
great vid! thanks for sharing
This is really cool. Any chance you could share the template?
drive.google.com/file/d/1NTEhtZeO17ODMK61MQIvsS-9CJtZRIp8/view?usp=sharing :)
@@slimmestcharlest dope ty!! subbed
The only chanel that put out that the looper just dont work ...it almoust do it ....but no it is delayed and the driver error compensation could fix it ( is to force chanel monitoring "in " to work as "off "setup) but it only has control over the audio clips not the looper the start Point for recording stay delayed 😢