The Ruin of Beleriand: Battle of Sudden Flame! | Of the Lords of Beleriand - Part 10 of 10
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I'm not as into middle earth lore as you but I love that you are so into it! 😀 your excitement carried through to me
Coming back to this years later...this is still one of the best things on RUclips. It's on par with Sir Christopher Lee's reading of the last stand of Hurin.
Thank you for this masterpiece!
Your videos are incredible. I am following all the series from the beginning and have sadly seen you haven’t posted in a few months. Hope you continue. The way you tell us the storyline is just mindblowing
Loving this series! Especially as someone who recently got into LOTR lore! Looking forward to the next video.
I would like to know what are your genuine thoughts and response to those guys who claim that Fingolfin riding alone to challenge Morgoth in a one-on-one battle is a sign of his (in their own words) "uselessness" and "incompetence"?
I honestly have no words for them because I totally understand what extreme rage, despair, and the desire to avenge those you love can cause anyone to do something so crazy and unthinkable.....I cannot roll my eyes enough to those people😒😒😒....I wanna assume that they're also the type of fans who would claim that despite killing the Witch king and actually surviving fatal wounds, Eowyn (in their eyes) is "selfish" and "irresponsible/negligent" for disobeying her uncle and leaving her people leaderless.
Yeah I think that's definitely a one dimensional and not particularly nuanced take on Fingolfin. Tolkien clearly intended Fingolfin to be wise and highly competent, which we see loads of times earlier in his life.
I also think criticizing Fingolfin for his challenge of Morgoth (or Eowyn for what she does) is massively missing the point of what Tolkien was trying to do. His characters are not written to hold 20th century values, they are part of a mythology that is rooted in Anglo Saxon themes and concepts. The idea of riding in wrath to delay the long defeat is a hugely important part of Saxon and Germanic mythology, and this is what Tolkien was drawing from. I think Fingolfin is up there with his best characters.
What a wonderful series!!! And I’m so excited to have learned so much from it too!! Definitely my favorite channel on RUclips!!❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
I loved your series on the Books vs Movies but you only did the first one. Any chance you are going to continue it for the 2nd and 3rd books/movies? Keep up the good work!
I would really like to continue that series, although I want to get the First Age finished before the Second Age LOTR TV series airs next year.
Still waiting for the next series.
I'm working on it!
@@tolkienuntangled noice! Take your time
The elves needed a Cato:. Morgoth delenda est!
Fingolfin is the the most badass dude in the whole legendarium. Him and Earendil. Fingolfin fought Satan and Earendil fought a dragon in a space ship.
@The Commission 🤥🥱
@The Commission He might have done better by not seeking that fight but once the fighting began his achievements were unrivalled.
Mfer was an anime character stuck in a high fantasy world.
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He bought a space ship and became a space cadet 😏
Yep. Fingolfin stands alone in badassery.
Both the Feanor series and this series were absolutely epic. Came here after the disappoint of the RoP show, and I’m just realizing how much more there is to Tolkien that just the LotR
If you really want more take the time to get through the silmarillion and it opens up everything. All the other lesser work expand on it in great detail
I agree, its almost criminal.... what the woke morons of Amazon did with this epic story. With virtually unlimited funds, they produced, what the woke left always produces..... garbage. In short? That is all they can/could produce is garbage....just like Morgoth. They have no capability beyond that after all. The irony of it, should not be missed on anyone, though it will and you will see it first with comments berading what I just said, despite being absolutely true.
I prefer the rings of power. Don't get me wrong. These videos are ok. But he seems to gloss over the most exciting events. And I think the rings of power is very under rated. Just my personal opinion
You have to read The Simarillion. It’s it epic. The first part before the Flight of the Noldor can be something of a slow read…but it is spectacular and deserves a trilogy series on its own
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I get Orcs being scared by Fingolfin and all his lesser servants fleeing, but you have to think that Morgoth kept at least a few Balrogs around him as a personal guard as well. And and even these guys were like 'yeah we're not fighting that, good luck boss.'
I also imagine this is one of those situations where Sauron runs away so quickly that he leaves a Sauron shaped cloud behind him like in a Bugs Bunny cartoon.
21:45 Up until this point I had never seen a map of how large Beleriand was, and it absolutely floored me. As a fan who's only read The Lord of the Rings, I'm astounded at how much I've missed out on - and the sheer size of Beleriand as compared to where the main trilogy takes place - the unbelievable span of time, and all that has been lost - made me really melancholy. Look at all the good that had been taken thousands of years before Frodo even exists. I know this is common knowledge for some, but to find out the depth of history here is unbounded is really exciting. This world feels real to me in a way that wasn't the case before I watched this channel. And for that I'm very grateful.
Fingolfin: *hears Hador is killed*
Fingolfin: *slowly morphs into John Wick*
Yeah, they killed Fingolfin's dog.
"Forget Feanor and his stupid jewels! This. is. PERSONAL."
I always had Fingolfin as a blonde in my head. I mean, it makes sense that he's black haired, being a Noldo but his mother being a Vanyar made me imagine him blonde. Also to distinguish him more from Feanor.
Tolkien lays all of that out in The Prince’s of Eldamar in The Silmarillion. Finarfin was the only one to inherit the blonde hair from Indis.
You are the best at what you do and I simply cannot understand the lack of subs. We all must spread the word of this Creator and his talents.
Thank you! Very much appreciated!
I never fully put together that Maedhros’ Hill of Himring never fell! Even after the destruction of Beleriand - I have to thank this channel for revealing another amazing layer in story - Tolkien is a true genius
Den of geek is good too but your right he is awesome!!
There’s an incredible song about the duel between Morgoth and Fingolfin called Time Stands Still (At the Iron Hill) by the band Blind Guardian. It truly does this battle justice and thought I might as well share it here.
Not bad, not my preferred genre of music, but still pretty good.
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AS TIME STANDS STILL ATTHE IRON HILL
Battlelore.
That's funny I was just thinking of possibly trying to do a silmarillion theme album, but I'm still working on getting my bandmates to read the goddamn book. Otherwise it'll just be my passion and them humoring me. I'll have to check that out.
In the moment where Fingolfin road to challenge Morgoth he shows just how similar to his older brother he really is. When pushed far enough both brothers would rush into a fight they knew could not be won but wanted harm Morgoth so badly that they’d sacrifice their lives just to make him feel fear.
Jesus Morgoth really goes through it huh.
- Permanently maimed hand, burnt by the silmaril.
- 7 permanent wounds, including one that gives him a limp
- Still probably got a bit of a tickly throat from being strangled by ungoliant
- probably lost a few teeth from his kicking from Tulkas
- now having his face carved up by Thorondor
Don't forget after all that he gets cast out into the void for all eternity. How maddening would that be? Just lost in a void of nothingness and darkness forever with nothing but your own thoughts and hatred and pain to keep you company.
No less than he deserved for all the anguish and evil he inflicted.
@@Strideo1it’s likely he eventually had Sauron for company - the Silmarillion claims Sauron took his master’s path into the Void, which may be a side effect of the Ring’s destruction.
I just shared this message with one of my kin:
Tolkien Untangled is undoubtedly becoming my favorite of all the nearly 20+ Tolkien lore RUclipsrs. His passion, storytelling, and ability to fill me with such emotion and awe is nigh unparalleled.
In particular, his description of the battle of fingolfin and morgoth is the best rendition of it ever spoken.
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos.
Just today, when my husband and I were sitting out in the evening.. I couldn't stop gushing about your narration of the stories! I was telling him how your passion, enthusiasm and captivating style makes Tolkien soo much more enjoyable!
@@tolkienuntangled I told a co-worker about your series. He boyfriend is a huge Tolkien fan but she has never read any of his books. I recommended your channel due to your description and love of Tolkien’s work.
Ikr? I literally watched like a half vid, and the passion with which he spoke almost reverent at times just won me over. I felt seen. I bet a lot big Tolkien fans turn this channel on and think "...this is giving best friend.." lol. For those of us who don't have friends that share this interest I feel it really helps scratch that itch. In short, this channel is unparalleled.
@@willdemi5618 immaculate reply. Thank you! This channel community is a fun fellowship indeed.
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You make a good point about Hador Lorindel. Though I think his elvish name is “Lorindol”: that would mean “dreaming head” in Quenya, but “Lorindel” wouldn’t mean anything. Regardless, it’s a good point. Fingolfin’s anger in this moment never really made much sense to me: but like, it’s Fingolfin so I just assumed it must be justified. I mean, yeah, I would be cut up about losing Angrod and Aegnor too, but Fingolfin’s reaction is reminiscent of Fëanor’s reaction to Finwë’s death. I just never thought that much about how the House of Hador came to dwell in Dor-lómin. The fact that Fingon just gives up having his own realm… remember, this is the reason he came to Middle Earth in the first place. This absolutely speaks volumes to the effect Hador must have had on Fingolfin. Especially since Fingon apparently can’t stop giving him presents: the Dragonhelm was also from Fingon. The only reason Fingon would act like this is if Hador was a light in his father’s life. That makes sense, Fingolfin can’t have been doing too hot when the Edain showed up. He was grieving for those who’d fallen on the Helcaraxë, he has a serious case of year-sickness, nobody wants to fight the bad guys, and to top it all off Turgon has absconded with Aredhel to goodness only knows where. Having dealt with depression myself, I know that sometimes the most helpful thing is just a new perspective. Hador, just by being human, would have brought that. Of course Fingolfin was so pissed off he looked like a Vala. He’d just started to enjoy life again, thanks to Hador.
My gods man. I just found your channel. I love your passion while telling these stories. you truly do have a skill there. Fantastic work. I love it.
Thanks!
Wow.... This is a video plus encore. Thanks so much. I think it is interesting that both heroes like Frodo and villains never fully recover from wounds in battle. This means battles are never truly won. There is always a cost.
When the British entered world war one or the great war they saw it as an opportunity for acts of manly valor but it ended up costing so much for those men who died or returned home with permanent disabilities.
America went off to two wars 20 years ago with the same naivete that wars could be easily won and were worth the cost.
How many times do we have to learn this lesson. The wounds never fully heal. Even the stronger side might be permanently weakened by fighting.
Very well said! I've heard the Lord of the Rings described as a tragedy disguised in the clothes of a happy ending. I think there's some truth in that. War always leaves a mark, and the mark does not fade when the fighting stops.
Lol funny how you call Hador a peer to elven Lords and then compare his relationship with fingolfin with that of a dog and his master
Insulting to man.
@@ladyalaina42 lol it's a poor choice of words
It’s not like Fingolfin actually treated Hador like a dog. That’s not what he’s saying. It’s just a comparison to their lifespan differences - Fingolfin has the same perspective toward Hador that we have to our own pets: the knowledge that we will only have them for a short time before we inevitably outlive them.
Ohhh.. what a battle.. Fingolfin.. what a man, what an elf!!! Thank you for this wonderful story
Wasn’t Morgoth’s power less great by the point he fought Fingolfin, from spreading his power thin by creating all his servants. Still a magnificent feat but he wasn’t as strong as in the beginning.
His personal might was spread very thin. But he was still very mighty
It seems that every time q character in the books is expending soul essences to spawn creations and provoking words of power for spells their spirit wanes a little, we see this with Galadriel and Sauron later. Perhaps surviving Ungoliants assualt had required some grand enchantment before the Balrogs showed up and his magic was lesser?
@Utube Fknsucks facts.
@Utube Fknsucks although they did burn/burden him terribly.
@Utube Fknsucks he was much reduced. The silmarils did not give him power , he coveted them and stole them out of pure jealousy not for more power. The silmarils were hallowed and he could not even hold them without being burned. He put forth much of his innate power into the world itself and into domination of millions of beings and creatures. By the end he had fallen so far that he never came forth to battle and then Ran and hid from Eonwe and begged for mercy. He was shown none and they chopped his feet off and chained him. Had he been his former self that would not have happened
So fingolfin was so pissed and terrifying that armies literally were like nope and ran away unti he rode all the way up to little g's doorstep.. what a G
Fantastic video! Fingolfin challenging Morgoth is so amazingly inspiring! He knew how powerful Morgoth was and he stood against him anyways. Being a bit of a defiant fellow (some would say more than a bit) these sort of story’s appeal to me in a very deep way. I can’t wait for new videos!!
And for all Feanor's braggadocio, Fingolphin(the quiet one)was the one who faced Morgoth mano y mano.
A lot of the artwork depicting Fingolfin vs Morgoth makes Morgoth look a little comical in size IMO. He puts his foot on Fingolfins neck and I think that should say something about his size not being THAT big. He should be big, but come on.
I agree. A lot of Tolkien art exagarates the size of the villains. It looks great, but it doesn't make sense in many cases. Morgoth, Ancalagon, and Durin's Bane are three of the worst offenders.
@@tolkienuntangled Yeah especially Ancalagon, good lord. I've also seen recent depictions of Ungoliant that is the size of several mountain ranges...
Thinking the same about giant bad guys. Also would not use the black Manwe. Too woke for words!! Let's keep Tolkien "Tolkien".
NOoooo! Cliffhanger! Gotta say, every series you do is absolutely brilliant, but this has been my favourite. Will be looking forward to the continuation, and learning how Beleriand ended up under water and all that. Keep up the fantastic work, mate!
I'm really glad you enjoyed the series! Thanks for your kind words!
I agree, Fingolfin was the greatest High King of the Noldor. I'm not sure if he was the best King, but surely the greatest.
Nah Feanor is, he was the only one who Morgoth was actually scared of. A one on one with Feanor and Morgoth would have been good to hear about.
@@Achilliez ... you actually claim that Morgoth was not afraid of Fingolfin? 😅 There is a passage in the Silmarillion that indicates that though.
By the way, it is very Tolkien-style I would say that Fëanor was denied a chance for revenge...
@@Crafty_Spirit sorry my comment was rushed. I think in terms of actual kingship Fingolfin was a better king.
But by the time Fingolfin challenged Morgoth he had lost much of his power.
And yes you are correct saying that Morgoth did have some fear of him, however it’s not the same (in my understanding) as his fear of Feanor. For the mightiest of the Valar to show genuine fear in the undying lands because of someone’s spirit, not through a challenge. I think shows how much he truly feared Feanor.
And yes sadly Tolkien didn’t allow the revenge that a lot of us wanted, so we had to take his death fighting balrogs😢.
Even if he had made it to Morgoth I’m not sure he could have killed him, maybe just more wounds that wouldn’t heal.
Feanor made the mistake they could have taken him together
@@elguapo221 very true. Yet through the genius writing of Tolkien we were denied that also.
I can not wait for more of your story telling. Your description of the characters allows us listeners to feel as though they are real! Struggling individuals dealing with the human condition. You allow us to have empathy for these characters good or bad! You truly have a gift! Thank you!!!
Tolkien himself participated in Battles that lasted for many many months such as the first Battle of the Somme. Tolkien himself knew the true horror of battle, battles that lasted for months on end with massive numbers of soldiers using rifles, artillery, planes, bayonets, horses, tanks, flamethrowers, poison gas that would block out the sun on a battlefield devoid of all greenery. He was able to describe the horror of the battles in his writings because he actually experienced similar battle and horrors himself which people today can only imagine through books, tv shows, and movies.
The legend of Filgolfin what a character
I agree with you about that three word sentence. "And Morgoth came" is the most memorable one in the entire Silmarillion.
I love Féanor and Fingoulfin, not gonna lie Féanor was so interesting to me as a teen when my dad told me he took on " balrogs " and a Dragon. But when I read the Silmarillion and Féanors attitude and behavior, it reminded me too much of my younger brother, me, and have a toxic relationship very similar to these two. I'm more like Fingoulfin whereas my brother is a weasel.
Amazing story telling as always! In the past, I have always envisioned morgoth as this powerful evil badass who is untouchable and is very stern. That was before I had known the full story of the silmarillon and had just seen fanarts and some bits of lore. Now, I see him as a (for lack of a better term) sore loser who is always arrogant and just wants to ruin other people's day.
The duel of Feanor and morgoth is just so epic and I have imagined some scenes that would really look cool if seen on the movies or painted!
Sauron also seems like an impersonal generic evil at first impression, but in the full legendarium he's a big nerd who wants to take over the world out of the belief that everyone else is too dumb to do it right.
@@vaiyt I like the fact that he was a Crafter and a subtle trickster as well. Sneaky bastard. Probably could've just made a fortune making and selling fine jewelry but nooooooo...
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"duel of Fëanor and Morgoth..."
Poor Fingolfin. Always overshadowed by his brother. 😅
I feel like the stories of the First Age would make fantastic anime. Especially the duel of Fingolfin and Morgoth.
Fingolfin listened to Lilith in BL3 when she said “show them that gods can bleed,”
This has been so an incredible series! Now I feel confident rereading the Silmarillion. After finishing it the first time, I was left with the sense that I missed so much of it.
FINGOLFIN’s valour and character deserves a movie. Feanor also for his significance in the entire legendarium. I’m moved by such stories 😢
Each of these videos was seriously good. They are the most well presented, knowledgeable and enjoyable Tolkien lore videos I've seen. Very good indeed. I'm not much on sharing vids and channels and such but I will this one. Time well spent.
Thanks very much! I'm really glad you enjoyed the videos!
Great video, but I would add another view to the duel between Fingolfin and Morgoth: Fingolfin martyred himself and while doing that he crippled his enemy. How badly would the elven kingdoms have suffered if Morgoth had been able to move with his armies? Or just transfer his base of operations closer to the action? Morgoth was forced to sit inside his fortress and work through other, lesser hands. Hands that had seen the cowardice and weakness of their lord. Fingolfin fought well but he also did much harm to the capabilities of the great enemy with his last act.
I don’t think I can put into words, the way your video’s hit my person in so many ways! And take me away from the all the bullshit of daily life, and chaos in the world. Even if it’s in the form of a 30 minute video. Your story telling delivery is so captivating! Love your video’s keep them coming! We appreciate all your effort that it takes to make these videos! Thank you! ✨✨✨✨
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos ☺️
"This is the guy we're fighting for?" Brilliant 🤣
I must say that I enjoy watching these RUclips videos more than I enjoyed reading the actual books
Goosebumps! I imagine a high budgeted film showing the fight between fingolfin and morgoth! That would be epic!
Now realizes fingolfin probably could have chokeslammed feanor back in Arda. But he was patient, in the way eru was patient with morgoth.
I watch a lot of Tolkien lore video - I swear I got emotional watching yours - great recaps and interesting insights /connections - but amazing story (re)telling and presentation as well
It is the providence of champions that their very nature requires an indomitable and unyielding spirit. Only when one gives their ALL that their measure is taken. Notice how when the arrogant and haughty 'C' brothers were put to the test they demurred then fled to the west. They could've just as easily joined forces with Maedhros and ended all those eastern conflicts much sooner. Sad that so many children of Faenor became disappointments.
The death of Fingolfin is so triumphant as much as it is tragic. But I have to confess the eagle part had me rolling. 😆
Simply epic, both the story itself and your telling of it! Just got caught up on your series, and now I find myself wishing the rest wast already made so I could start watching it!
I’m guessing that Morgoth doesn’t have to live with the pain of that bad foot forever. When he was captured by the Valar, but before his final removal from Thangorodrim, I think, “They hewed his feet from under him. Maybe in the void he will have ghost pains from the wounds on his missing foot so he can remember Fingolfin in the void.
Just wanted to say you and *girlnextgondor* are my favourite Tolkien youtubers! Keep up the good work!
25:30 starts the bit about Fingolfin going all John Wick over his loss.
Wonderful. Just wonderful. You have had me rapt for days. I love the Silmarillion. I’ve read it several times in my life, and it’s always a bit of a chore for me to get started. I’ve been thinking about reading it again for a minute, but that beginning! Fortunately, I stumbled across your series. This was the absolute most enjoyable time I’ve had experiencing the story of th he First Age. Thank you. Can’t wait for Beren and Luthien!
I’ve watched loads of Tolkien videos, but I’ve got to say: yours are the best!
Thanks!
So Happy to have a new video!!!
Another awesome series! Love watching your videos and can't wait for the next one 😁 well done dude
The battle between Fingolfin and Morgoth is probably by far my favorite example of the trope: The hero proving even gods can bleed.
This dude shares my enthusiasm for Tolkien.
Can't believe it is over again! I will greatly miss your weekly video. You did a fantastic job as always. Don't dissapear for very long!
Thank you, I'm really glad you enjoyed it! I've actually just finished editing next week's lore video, and I've decided to split it into two parts. So there'll be two more videos coming next week and the week after, before the beginning of the hiatus 🙂
@@tolkienuntangled That sounds great Rainbow Dave! Enjoy your break but seriously don't keep us waiting that long 😄
With this video, I've now gone back and watched all of your videos. Some of them I've fallen asleep to; Tolkien lore is great for that.
i must defend morgoth a bit (but i knida hate it) ... he was weakend from the day on he took the silmarils, though the spell of varda that protected them. and as you many times said, morgoth was the most powerful of the ainur does not mean that he was the strongest or the greatest fighter (telkos totally kicked his ass)
Edit: after finishing the video i hate it even more to defend morgoth. wrote the first part of this comment at the start of the duell between morgoth and fingolfin
btw. the Himring which is an isle in Third Age is no longer called Himring but Himling of what I remember ;)
Yeah you're absolutely right.
Excellent work, very comprehensive video on the difficult read, that is the Silmarillion. Fingolfin is one of my favorite characters of the story. Thank you.
Best conclusion to the series that was possible. I want to see it on screen now
What a great series! Looking forward to start the next one
Didn't Fingolfin unwittingly participate in the Kinslaying?That would influence the length of his stay in Mandos.
Yeah, he arrived late to the Kinslaying, and thought the Noldor had been attacked by the Teleri, but he did take part in it. It's the only truly negative thing Fingolfin ever does
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I totally agree. I don't think any Noldor that killed a Teleri during the Kinslaying can get out of Mandos for a long time. That innocent spilling of blood with no request for forgiveness is unacceptable to Eru Iluvatar, me thinks.
@@tolkienuntangled that and Fingolfin screwed himself when he swore an oath to Feanor, that he shall lead and I shall follow. He didn’t want to abandon his people to the rash temper of Feanor, but he fell under the doom of Mandos in doing so.
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I really wonder what servants, monsters and armies Melkor had at his command in Utumno. The Balrogs were probably part of those, but aside from that they probably mostly consisted of evil powerful spirits/ Maiar, seeing what destruction they were able to wrought and even make the Valar flee. I guess these armies probably even surpassed the forces of Morgoth he had in Angband.
He killed the king of the elves, but took a kut to the heal. (like an arrow to the knee.)
I am reading The Silmarilli for the second time, but this time it is indepth with more appreciation. I can't wait to get to this part. Right now I am at the part where Feanor is mulling over asking the Teleri for help with their ships. I think this is the First Kinslaying.
I'm really glad you're enjoying the Silmarillion!
@@tolkienuntangled Yes, I really appreciate it now but what really helped are your videos. Once I got the background of the story from it, I am able to understand the book better. It is amazing at the depth of the lore that Tolkien made. I hope Amazon tried to do follow as closely as possible. It will be amazing to see Finrod Felagunds death in the series, and I hope they show all the major battles and occurrences of the First Age. I think Finrod is my favorite elf, along with Glorfindel. I will read the Children of Hurin next.
Loved this series!!! Loved your narrative! Thanks for bringing these stories back to life!
Is there a way you could do a video on gondolin the way you explain these books and stories are amazing
It will take me a while to get there, but I promise I'll do a whole series of videos on Gondolin as I work through the First Age.
@@tolkienuntangled yesss thanks will be watching all new uploads
So I'm watching this through for something like the fifth time (it is indeed a badass moment), and it occurred to me -- why does Morgoth even want to control these areas that are now barren wastes? I mean, clearly it can't support farmland. Is there mining? Is there some economic and/or magical benefit? Or does he just want to own it for the hell (ha!) of it?
Honestly I don't think there's much benefit at all to Morgoth ruling these barren wastes, except that he's successfully taking them away from his Elven enemies. I think this is where we see a big difference between Morgoth and Sauron. Say what you will about Sauron, he does at least have a vision, he wants to rule over his own (admittedly corrupt) creation in Middle-earth, but I don't think Morgoth really cares about creating anything. All he wants is to pollute and destroy the lands that were made fair by his enemies. Morgoth doesn't really have an end goal, he just wants to prove that he can ruin everything good that the elves have built.
As i see it he wanted some far away places where no one could live around except orcs . eventually morgoth woild release a deadly force to destroy everyone, but the valar came first and stopped it.
Such a good telling of this lore.
Another amazing video!!!!Dont keep us waiting too long!I been telling people about your channel.I hope you have a great break!
Thank you! I can't wait to get back to the First Age before too long!
These videos keep getting better and better. And you haven't even got to the most epic parts yet.
Great series!! The Silmarillion has become much clearer for me🔥♥️🧙♂️
Your by far the best out of the several channel's on lotr
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Fingolfin was Fantastic, Morgoth gets cast into the void. Haha
You have the voice of a Maiar 👏🏽
Wasn’t Morgoth much weaker by the time Fingolfin fought him? By spreading his power thin by creating all his servants his power had faded a lot. Still a magnificent feat of bravery and valor but Morgoth wasn’t as strong as when Arda was created. That was one of Morgoth’s greatest weaknesses. He wanted to be God but by trying to be he weakened himself because it was not in his power. It’s testament to his self destructive nature, one that Sauron would inherit. Much evil is pitiable when you wipe away all the fire and brimstone.
You're absolutely right. Morgoth at this point is a far cry from Melkor during the Ainulindalë!
So weak that sauron in numenor was stronger
Yes, Lopi robinson. Morgoth spent a lot of himself making Ungoliant stronger. Then, after their arrival in Middle Earth, he needs the help of Balrogs to drive her off. It always seemed a pity that Ungoliant then disappears from the story line. She only gets a mention as the Mother of Shelob in the Lord of the Rings.
Your videos are amazing. I've never read the Silmarillion, or any works of Tolkien except the main trilogy and the Hobbit, so learning about the first age is fascinating and you tell the story so well. The series are incredible, almost impossible to stop watching once you begin. I can't wait for the continuation.
I just recently discovered your channel and have been loving your videos! Thank you for the time and efforts you put into this. Im excited to start listening on Beren and Luthien next!
Love it, thanks for the naration
Also what you're telling me is that if he had a bit more battle sense and didn't trip but pulled the fight to a different spot he might have hurt morgoth even more. Like chopped off an arm or something? Hmmmm damn
That is cool as hell Taur - Nu - Fuin - another dark wood. makes me wonder since this makes 2 dark woods were Tolkeins story he never completed took place in. The story they said would deal with dark trees!!!
Dave, how long do you think the Silmarillion would be if Tolkien had written it like a novel*, the way he wrote LoTR? Barring that, which take would you have “novelized” out of all the stories covered in the Silmarillion? Include Akallabêth and the Third Age stuff if you like. LoTR appendices too.
*By this I mean a series of books, each with the same level of detail as LoTR or the Hobbit. I don’t think you could ever make the whole Silmarillion into a novel.
By the way, I don’t consider The Children of Húrin a “novel” either. There’s not enough detail there. There’s no casual dialogue, just carefully chosen declarations that serve to summarize entire conversations. The tone is still too “biblical”, if you know what I mean.
STOKED FOR THE NEXT SERIES!!
Your content is amazing, I have enjoyed every second of your Silmarillion series. Looking forward for Beren & Lucien. Thank you!
❤As always phenomenally well done, this is also (for me) the height of the first age, this battle is just beyond and it kinda marks the beginning of some of the best stuff imo. (Beren and Luthien) which would be perhaps a close 2nd for me, I absolutely adore a good love story, and even more I LOVE a loyal (or disloyal based on your opinion, but I'd say (let's call him the c word) was the disloyal one) dog! ❤
Wasn't Ringil also the name given to one of the two towers of light? The one that Morgoth initially attacked? I dunno if this is correct, but if it is, then Morgoth starts his campaign destroying Ringil, and ends his campaign being crippled by another Ringil. Pretty poetic!
In a strange way I'm actually a little disappointed to have found your channel already. It's so good I wish there were more videos to binge lol
31:00 I always thought the ONLY reason he was even able to land a blow on morgoth was because of how weak morgoth has become over the years after all his labors. It is known that with every creation morgoth set forth, he would put into it a portion of his own power and malice and morgoth made ALOT of foul things. I always believed that this is why he is not quite as mighty as he was during the felling of the two lamps and the two trees. He is just no longer what he once was. He is still "a god among men," but now a lesser god than what he once was.
The sons of Feanor are a little ridiculous not wanting to press their advantage on Morgoth. Did they not make a vow to take back the Silmarils whatever it took? Guess they got distracted ruling their realms or whatever lmao
Side note, this almost feels like blasphemy except it has nothing to do with Tolkien but others far off in the future, is it just me or is Morgoth/Sauron a little analgous to Megatron/Starscream lol!
Another great video 🙏