This is the most comprehensive YT video explanation of Tesla's FSD (as yet, Beta) that I have come across. I did have a pretty good understanding of FSD, and its superiority over other systems, but you have lifted the remaining part of the lid on what I needed. Excellent video.
Many people seem to object to the name "autopilot" because the system is not fully autonomous. The term "autopilot" originated in the aviation sector. In my thirty-five year career as an airline pilot, I never once heard a suggestion that "autopilot" meant it did not have to be monitored or that it would somehow prevent anything from going wrong. It did just what the Tesla autopilot does - that is reduce the workload of the operator who, like in the airplane, takes full responsibility for the outcome.
Reminds me of automatic speed control being called 'Cruise Control', and the story of a couple in an RV where the driver clicked on 'Cruise' and went to the back to have a drink of tea. Some people need to be told to read the fine manual - and understand what they read.
Yeah - the term is 100% correct - it does pretty much exactly what an aiplane autopilot does - it controls speed, altitude and heading - the Tesla autopilot controls speed and lane-centering steering. Full Self Driving is perhaps a little over-stated - but if you actually read the words Tesla use - the feature is called "Full Self Driving Capability" - and that last word matters. You're buying into a future promise - not a fully perfected feature. Eventually - it will become that...but right now, we're all along for the ride. I paid $6,000 for FSD - it was an act of trust because at the time, it wasn't doing much more than autopilot. But today - it's AMAZING... "Drive to Walmart" ...and off we go.
Musk claimed that the endproduct of FSD could be used as robo-taxi without intervention furthermore the system is still in beta and claimes nothing at the moment
According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, "There were 35,766 fatal motor vehicle crashes in the United States in 2020 in which 38,824 deaths occurred." This is, according to NHTSA, 1.27 fatalities per 100 million vehicle miles traveled. If Tesla can prove through data that FSD can drastically reduce the total number of fatal crashes per year or the number of fatalities per 100 million vehicle miles traveled, FSD will not only be approved by regulators in the future; it will be required for all cars. In other words, the technology doesn't need to be perfect to gain wide acceptance by regulators. It simply needs to be at least an order of magnitude safer than the best human driver.
If I could afford to do anything other than walk everywhere, I'd get an FSD Tesla! I finally got to have a ride in one about two weeks ago (it was an UBER). I was so excited and given my interest, the owner was more than happy to show me a thing of two! I really hope I get to do it again someday. I would love to ask them to drive like an insane person and really get a feel for the power and handling. Anyway, another great video. I hope you have a wonderful day filled with all the people and things you love!
I was blown away when a friend took me for a drive in his model 3 and sat facing me, talking to me the whole time as the car drove itself for 20 miles on a windy Seattle area two lane road. I kept expecting him to grab the wheel but he never had to until we reached a round-about where he had to do some steering to merge with traffic. And this was in 2018. Wow!
Or a killer as it will fail on you sooner or later & then your in a blunder as it has worked for xxx period of time. The hardware in Teslas sold today are WAY off anything that ever will be able to reliably drive on it own for years (or days/weeks) in all weatherconditions.
I think that's a fair summary of what we have now. It's not 100% reliable - but it's easy to catch it's little oopsies. You just can't zone out and play with your phone **YET**. But it's getting appreciably better with each release. My biggest problem with FSD isn't the AI and all of that - it's that it's reliant on Google Maps which has significant errors in some parts of the world. Near me, there is a traffic light junction which Google refuses to believe exists. So FSD takes a complicated back-roads route to get you anywhere close to that junction instead of just going the quick way. Although that's not Tesla's fault - it does make FSD a pain to deal with sometimes.
Impressive tech! Been using it since 2021 and it's getting better each day. It's like seeing a new driver not repeating the same mistake, I cheer it on every time 👏👏
Consider a world where Elon Musk never existed - Chatgpt, AI, self-landing rockets, full self-driving cars, and even colonizing Mars may have seemed like unattainable dreams. We are incredibly fortunate to have someone like Elon Musk pushing the boundaries of what's possible and inspiring us all to reach for the stars.
Other autonomous: mature then released to public. Tesla: relsed to public then it'll mature. Apparently Tesla's strategy is practical and other approaches are either geo-fenced and will take forever to mature. Keep up the good work.
I’ve had my Tesla for 6 months and love it, although I don’t have fsd, just the basic autopilot. As an airline pilot by trade I fully recognize the opportunities automation offer and also the challenges of the road forward. When Airbus first certified their a320 series aircraft, the most common two phrases where “what’s it doing now” and “look, it did it again”. That being said, automation has led to a more safe aviation experience and ultimately it will lead to safer roads. It’s just the process of getting there that will be incredibly challenging.
Awesome video, finally a clear explanation for people to see, only thing is a small error in the hardware side, since only the S and X have the GPU´s installed, the driving happens in the FSD computer which yes all tesla´s have.
I use FSD daily. The only thing it fails on for me is merging when a lane ends. So if you are road with 2 lanes going north and you are in the right lane. Then if the right lane ends FSD never acknowledges that is happening or that it happened. FSD just eventually recognizes that there are 2 cars in one lane and does a bunch of weird things, like cutting someone off, to deal with the situation. On my normal drives that is one of the only thing it has problems with. I have driven for over an hour before without any issues except for the issue above.
To be totally fair, the merging of two lanes into one lane in heavy traffic is an extremely anxiety driven exercise for a lot of drivers. Including myself. Especially since you have so many raging idiots on the road who just want to get ahead by a few cars by accelerating in the lane that's about to end, and then they do all sorts of shenanigans to get back to the other lane, as if it was their god given right. And you can see a few other cars that follow that accelerating car because they want to be assholes too.
I live in Seattle so don’t expect to get FSD 12 before 2025 because of the weather. But FSD 11 keeps feeling more and more natural. But it still doesn’t acknowledge that a lane is ending sometimes so I usually just takeover for 30 seconds. For everything else it drives safer than most people I know
We've owned a Tesla X for over 6 years now... no issues at all... not a single one so far... not mechanical, not electronic, and not with the autopilot. However, we knew in advance that the autopilot was still in its infancy, and was not to be fully trusted, but more like a small child, that can do certain things well, but otherwise still needs supervision. Whether the final product is 6 years away, or 16 years away, the goal of autonomous vehicles has always been the same, to reduce auto accidents (and fatalities) by over 99%, allowing people to focus on more productive or enjoyable things, without all the stress, anxiety, road-rage, DUI's, and other issues that human drivers create. And just as the aviation industry improved with their autopilot, eventually the automobile industry will as well.
Well, I bought my Model Y 6 months ago here in Europe and I added FSD, because it is "dirt cheap" (about 4'000 USD) compared to 15'000USD in the US today. Maybe I can only use FSD in five (or ten) years, but by then it will be much more expensive. So I just wait and enjoy some tea. 😌
4000 USD is not FSD but EAP. Now put on those realityglasses and realize that if the car cant even automate the wipers, especially at night, and its been like that since TM3 intro 6 years ago, how should FSD ever get out of beta and surely not with the hardware you got in your model Y.
@@ChipMIK you're right. However, EAP was a must for me, so the up sale to FSD was not much anymore. My colleague at work also complains about his Model 3 wiper logic, but I never have a problem with them and I'm driving 90% of the time with cruise control or auto pilot (which means the wipers are in auto mode).
I have FSD and use it every time I get in the car. When I first started using it I thought I must be lazy, but now I realize the mental load it takes off of my brain during my daily commute it is worth the money. It has improved a lot recently and I get excited for every firmware release. I can't wait for the merging of hwy and city FSD in V11 as the hwy FSD is not nearly as advanced as city street FSD. It is fun to track the improvements and experience them as the firmware improves and compare my experience with some of the youtubers who are also using FSD Beta.
I'm in the UK, paid the £6500 for FSD which isn't available yet. Bit of long shot but we expect to keep the car. Time will tell. Of course it does get to provide enhanced autopilot and traffic queues melt away, as do longer highway drives. The reduction in mental fatigue is very noticeable already. It's surprising how much mental effort is subconsciously required to drive a manual car in a traffic jam. You only realise when you don't have to do it.
@@djtaylorutube I've drove in the UK and I agree with the mental fatigue as there is not one straight road in your country. Round abouts are still done OK and will get better, and dirtyTesla covers them extensively. My guess is since it is available in Canada it will get rolled out in other countries sooner than later.
Sounds and looks like a sure thing. Driving will be doing the driving for us. At the moment I enjoy driving with a passion and do not need any help. However, if I can leave it all to AI and hugely intelligent automotive advances as mentioned here while I am tired but still need to get to my destination without fail or accident, or the weather suddenly makes driving dangerous, fsd is absolutely magical, probably life-saving and very very welcome, Hooray Elon!
Consider a world where Elon Musk never existed - Chatgpt, AI, self-landing rockets, full self-driving cars, and even colonizing Mars may have seemed like unattainable dreams. We are incredibly fortunate to have someone like Elon Musk pushing the boundaries of what's possible and inspiring us all to reach for the stars.
I'm really curious how these driving systems would handle winter in Minnesota? I think it will be a long time before they can handle that, if ever. This video really made me appreciate the human brain and just how much data we process without breaking a sweat.
FSD is more than a name, it’s a goal. From the data, it’s fairly successful and has been getting progressively better every year. However, edge cases haven’t been solved and it still occasionally acts in a non human like way. Those will be solved and it’s not many years off.
I have paid for FSD three times now. I have become a non believer though. I just think that driving has too many variable, and will never be sufficiently good enough. As an owner, and TSLA investor, I hope I’m wrong. But I don’t think I am.
I have had the oppurtunity to test a model 3 for a week with self driving capability. However it doesnt seem to work very well on our roads. I had to step in most of the times I activated it. The purpose is supposed to be giving me a more relaxed drive, but the reality is I am getting more stressed controlling the cars moves then when I drive myself.
I have been using it for 3 years. It has yet to bring me home by itself. On the turn about half a mile from jome, I can clearly hear the navigation system said "make a right turn now" the car would go straight; every time. Very consistent.
I have a couple questions. How does FSD handle corners? Does it slw down so you don't go careening into the corner? Also, how would it handle twisty mountain roads where there is no fog or center line? Thanks in advance.
FSD in Western Europe isn't widely available on all roads and in all types of areas. Basically, it is only sometimes available when I am driving on the highway for around 3-5 KM's, but very rarely in inner cities. When on the highway and engaged, every minute or so, it warns that I must apply pressure to the steering wheel lest it will shut itself off. If I don't squeeze the steering wheel stupidly tight, several times where the sensors are located or quickly agitate the steering wheel by making some small steering moves from left to right, it will also shut itself off. The feedback I have to give to the car to let it know that I am paying attention is too radical in my opinion, sometimes I wonder if the steering wheel sensors in my Model 3 are faulty. I rarely ever use FSD for more than 2 minutes at a time because of these reasons. A waste of 7.5K euro if you ask me. The feature that warns you when you should be braking because of some event that is taking place in front of you, I do think works well and has increased my safety.
The problem I see right now, is that driver complacency sets in while FSD or Autopilot is engaged. So if the car misidentifies the proper path (because of missing or contradictory road markings, for instance), I think the driver may be too flustered to grab control when it's necessary. I think many drivers are not prepared, nor capable of handling that properly.
We purchased FSD for our first Tesla. Our adult children have also purchased Tesla’s for there families. At this point in development we have recommended to our family, not to purchase the FSD. $15,000 is just not worth the cost for the limited capacity it offers at this time. In years to come, if or when, FSD really is FSD then they can rent or purchase it.
Based on my software career and my experience with my X, I'm guessing that FSD is maybe 10 years off and will be much less imperfect than human drivers. That said I'm all in but unfortunately I'll be too old to drive in 10 years. But wait......FSD will be my driver, I hope!. BTW your explanation of the process of building a model of the world in the computer is one o the best I've seen. But the explain of the operation of a neural net, while typical, really doesn't explain much. I'm as comfortable with the idea of a neural network (which I believe is the right direction for general computing), as I am with how linked blocks of digital meory and mining have anything to do with ghost-like things like digital currency. .
This video should be updated to explain how the newest version works, where it just inputs all the camera feeds directly into a neural network which then outputs to the controls without having to generate an internal 3d model.
What vehicle/ digital display is that at about the 2:02 mark??? It looks like a Model 3 with digital dashboard that I’ve never seen before (I want it! Lol)
My friends 6 year old child can't pronounce the letter R correctly that kid will never make it in the business world since they can't pronounce the letter R. This is the type of complaint I hear from people a lot with learning computer systems. "See it couldn't do that thing, it will never work" That being said. We got voice dictation to work in a quiet room 20 years ago. And it still doesn't work in a noisy environment.
So, the FSD computer prolly isn't a Raspberry Pi under the cover :) Does the $15,000 FSD feature go with the owner or does it stay with the serial number of the car? Can you add the feature to a car someone may have had for years, or can it only be added with the original car purchase? And....if I'm noodling around town and the cameras are sending all this data to my FSD, does it keep that data around in case I take the same route tomorrow? Can or does it upload any of that captured information back to Tesla to be used for training the AI back 'home' at the datacenter?
I am skeptical of FSDs response to unique driving scenarios that may cause the system to overcorrect/overreact: heavysnow, ice, heavy rain, oil slicks, unforeseen mechanical failures, deflated tires, roads that don't exist in reality, roads that dead end in reality and there's no place to turn around, large puddles that blend in with the road (undected by the camera), geo electric storms that cause the cars to shutdown in the middle of a highway or intersection.
I thought that Tesla's Autopilot also used a road map, with traffic light, stop sign positions, intersection lane layout and speed limits. Did they really ditch that too? 360⁰ lidar costs an arm and a leg, and fairly delicate, but downloading and refreshing the map costs nothing in comparison. They can outsource it. Google map has all that.
Elon Musk is a true visionary and innovator who has made tremendous contributions to a wide range of fields, from electric cars to space exploration. His efforts have not only pushed the limits of technology, but have also sparked a global conversation about the possibilities of the future. In terms of space exploration, Musk's company SpaceX has made incredible progress towards developing reusable rockets, which not only lowers the cost of space travel but also makes it more sustainable. This has brought the possibility of colonizing Mars closer to reality than ever before. Musk's work in developing electric cars at Tesla has also made significant strides in reducing our dependence on fossil fuels, and has spurred other companies to invest in electric vehicle technology. Beyond his technological achievements, Musk's determination and willingness to take risks has been a source of inspiration for many. He has faced setbacks and challenges along the way, but his unwavering commitment to his goals has helped him to overcome these obstacles and continue to make progress. Overall, Elon Musk's impact on technology and innovation is undeniable, and it's exciting to think about what he and his companies will achieve in the future.
I look forward to the day when I can have a Cybertruck follow me and my paragliding buddies on a cross country flight and pick us up! Also I really want to have to worry about having to drive back home, since a lot of those trips end up with me back at home around 1:00 a.m. .
The challenging part getting to full autonomy is going to be the period of time in between where the driver is still responsible is the FSD fails. Who’s going to be at fault in the future?
I beleve that now the driver will be reponsible, but when FSD is legal it is the manufacturer that will be liable (as long as the car is properly maintained and the driver does not over-ride FSD. Tesla acknowledge this and it is one reason why they are rapidly expanding their own vehicle insurance and actively developing advanced crash avoidance and mitigation.
This video is a good synopsis of V11 FSD; which we don't have in public BETA yet. Though Elon has said this week it'll go to the Tesla team at least. But using AI for control hasn't been done so far in V10 and below.
Most Americans would NEVER let someone use their Tesla as a robotaxi - especially people who can afford a Tesla. Once again, Elon’s engineering is groundbreaking, but his vision isn’t so good when it comes to humans.
For those who dont need an car for daily commute, tesla taxi will be lifechanging. I dont care if the car drives me from a to b at 150 130 or 90 km/h as long as i can sit in the backseat and arrive relaxed.
FSD in say a new car. Owner pays for FSD expecting to realize using it. 4 to 8 years later owner buy new tesla and never got a working FSD upgrade. Does owner need to start over in new car by paying another full cost for FSD or will owner get to keep the credit for FSD of 1st car and get FSD in 2nd car. This would help an owner to invest in the future by not being penalized in delays or promises not met by tesla.
What I wonder about, how does the cameras work so well, when there are rain drops or snow partially obscuring its vision. My back up camera is under a lip to partially cover it one supposes, and it becomes almost useless after several minutes of driving in the rain. That is a common theme where we live, T Space! 😂
I believe the answers to your point about cameras becoming obscured is that they are protected just as a humans eyes are protected e.g. by the windscreen. They are much better protected than a reversing camera as that is not a critical camera, whereas those used to drive the car are. Thus, FSD cameras have the same issues as human drivers, and if they cannot see well enough the carf will stop safely. However, the cameras used have greater dynamic range than eyes, particuarily in the dark, they do not blink or water or get tired, so I believe they are safer.
Full hands off self driving is not possible because the neural network has no inherent sense of time. Current neural network architectures are essentially large scale regression models or sequence representation models like with ChatGPT. This means that the network can never understand causality and make true time-based predictions. Elon Musk admitted recently that FSD won’t be possible without solving general AI and why he’s pushing for the Optimus program. There needs to be a fundamental breakthrough in AI for FSD to be fully realized.
@@LDJSFGKJSFDOUKJ I appreciate it. I’m doing my best to be as great as the many channels I love and follow myself. Far as the stock I have a small piece of the pie but yes.
3:07 Actually, the idea we use only vision for driving is complete nonsense. We also use our hearing (to listen for horns, emergency vehicles, etc). We also can feel if the car's grip is slipping, if we are driving over rumble strips, if we are are trying to turn too tightly at speed, etc.
I absolutley do think it is worth it. When Tesla has the trucks for sale that is what I am waiting for. Full self driving ability feature I would only trust Tesla to have this feature. Other makes althought they have vehicles on the road, they are no where near as advanced as Tesla. Tesla is the future. And when I buy an electric vehicle, it will only be Tesla.
You do realize all of the cars come with the same hardware so there’s literally no reason to pay $15,000 today when you can add it or subscribe to it later when it’s Finally ready Repeat: all of the cars come with the same hardware so you do not have to pay $15,000 to have FSD hardware - you can wait until it’s ready
Well you really showed a good example of craziness and possibilities of a real brain. Funny how 15k may not be safe today..😫 but maybe tomorrow. I'm already realizing the positive side, but complacency can be the human brain malfunction because just the basic adas system I didn't realize my brain would think it was off when it chimed but I honestly was distracted and hit the guardrail. I realized thinking it continued to stay on but I overrode the controls for a split second. I was just beginning to get used to the simple system. Now this is my brain and realized at the time if I would have realized not overriding the adas system, I would have not kissed the guard rail. So does AI use complacency?😵💫
@12:38 *_Cuphead_* It's even worse than that. The games are running in a separate computer, as are the communications, as are the event logging, and so on. The FSD and its _shadow_ are implemented in a pair of _FPGAs_ (Field Programable Gate Arrays,) which are running redundantly with the one in _shadow_ mode doing computation not related to driving but instead to monitoring the cabin and environment, taking care of various housekeeping tasks, preparing to take control instantly if the primary (or ego) is damaged in any way.
What I would like to see is to have the computer in my car learn from me. FSD, today, is too agressive on the accelerator and brake. Approaching a red light it will go the speed limit until it hits the beginning of a needlessly agressive deceleration curve and be hard on the brakes. All this does is wear the tires and waste energy. If over time the car would just monitor my driving technique and skew its AI model to the way I drive it would be so much better, for me. It also likes to be in the exact center of the lane markings. Sounds good, but this is not always ideal. On a two lane road with a white line on the right and 10 feet of shoulder people unconsiously drive closer to the right so as not to be so close to oncoming traffic. FSD also likes to wait to put on the blinker for a left turn right until it starts to break and then get in the turn lane. It should put on the blinker a few seconds earlier to let others know what you will be doing and it should get in the turn lane before braking.
I understand everybody could be scared of FSD because its new and possibly dangerous. But lets consider the roads today, I know many friends and family members who have lost family members because of accidents, drunk drivers, high drivers, or just bad injurys etc. Imagine the possibility of FSD to help change that future. Just consider the road safety today.
FSD is not worth it right now, but Tesla keeps upping the price, so it may be wise to purchase it before the price doubles again. I have mixed feelings about autopilots after having lived through the eco terrorists dropping the highway speeds to 55 way back when. EVERYBODY lost all of their high-speed intuitive reaction times during the lull. AFAIC, most drivers on the road today can't even STEER a car, let alone DRIVE one. The newspapers are all full of people driving into stores (oops, hit the wrong pedal!), rolling their cars at 25mph (a mean feat), or ramming cars on the freeway in front of them who have slowed for traffic. (despite the 400 glaring stop lights on cars in front of them).
You might need to rethink this video tesla is now recalling 362000 tesla cars because fears that the self driving beta is too dangerous will cause more deadly car accidents
I definitely believe tesla is in 1st place on autonomous drive but I'm not sure it's gonna happen in 2023 in a long time Elon promise 😉 ..but I believe will happen 🙏 before 2030
There are a number of inaccurate statements in this video. Autopilot and FSD are different products with widely different capabilities and product descriptions. FSD is still a BETA. It is not a finished product. The system is not made to learn your individual daily commute from repeated use. Only the model S and X have the upgraded Ryzen CPU and GPU and you're not able to play games while driving yet because FSD is a beta and you are still required to pay attention all the time.
Unless Tesla greatly reduces the cost of FSD, I won't get it. I wonder what percentage of their customers are buying it now. Tesla is basically charging their customers for chauffer service without a guarantee that it will work. Just my humble opinion.
This is the most comprehensive YT video explanation of Tesla's FSD (as yet, Beta) that I have come across. I did have a pretty good understanding of FSD, and its superiority over other systems, but you have lifted the remaining part of the lid on what I needed. Excellent video.
Superiority in what way? Lidar is better than vision only even without HD maps
This is the greatest explanation of FSD. I have seen so far in real time.
Many people seem to object to the name "autopilot" because the system is not fully autonomous. The term "autopilot" originated in the aviation sector. In my thirty-five year career as an airline pilot, I never once heard a suggestion that "autopilot" meant it did not have to be monitored or that it would somehow prevent anything from going wrong. It did just what the Tesla autopilot does - that is reduce the workload of the operator who, like in the airplane, takes full responsibility for the outcome.
Reminds me of automatic speed control being called 'Cruise Control', and the story of a couple in an RV where the driver clicked on 'Cruise' and went to the back to have a drink of tea. Some people need to be told to read the fine manual - and understand what they read.
Yeah - the term is 100% correct - it does pretty much exactly what an aiplane autopilot does - it controls speed, altitude and heading - the Tesla autopilot controls speed and lane-centering steering.
Full Self Driving is perhaps a little over-stated - but if you actually read the words Tesla use - the feature is called "Full Self Driving Capability" - and that last word matters. You're buying into a future promise - not a fully perfected feature. Eventually - it will become that...but right now, we're all along for the ride.
I paid $6,000 for FSD - it was an act of trust because at the time, it wasn't doing much more than autopilot. But today - it's AMAZING... "Drive to Walmart" ...and off we go.
Musk claimed that the endproduct of FSD could be used as robo-taxi without intervention
furthermore the system is still in beta and claimes nothing at the moment
According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, "There were 35,766 fatal motor vehicle crashes in the United States in 2020 in which 38,824 deaths occurred." This is, according to NHTSA, 1.27 fatalities per 100 million vehicle miles traveled.
If Tesla can prove through data that FSD can drastically reduce the total number of fatal crashes per year or the number of fatalities per 100 million vehicle miles traveled, FSD will not only be approved by regulators in the future; it will be required for all cars.
In other words, the technology doesn't need to be perfect to gain wide acceptance by regulators. It simply needs to be at least an order of magnitude safer than the best human driver.
If I could afford to do anything other than walk everywhere, I'd get an FSD Tesla! I finally got to have a ride in one about two weeks ago (it was an UBER). I was so excited and given my interest, the owner was more than happy to show me a thing of two! I really hope I get to do it again someday. I would love to ask them to drive like an insane person and really get a feel for the power and handling. Anyway, another great video. I hope you have a wonderful day filled with all the people and things you love!
I was blown away when a friend took me for a drive in his model 3 and sat facing me, talking to me the whole time as the car drove itself for 20 miles on a windy Seattle area two lane road. I kept expecting him to grab the wheel but he never had to until we reached a round-about where he had to do some steering to merge with traffic. And this was in 2018. Wow!
For those of us who are getting older and becoming a more dangerous driver, FSD is a godsend.
Which, over time, means everyone. That's a pretty sizeable market!
I always telling my older parents to get a model Y with FSD, one day it could serve as their personal ambulance.
Or a killer as it will fail on you sooner or later & then your in a blunder as it has worked for xxx period of time. The hardware in Teslas sold today are WAY off anything that ever will be able to reliably drive on it own for years (or days/weeks) in all weatherconditions.
@@ChipMIK I guess you mean it'll be just like a normal human driver.
@@fuzzygraybeard If you dont want to be serious at all, sure
I think that's a fair summary of what we have now. It's not 100% reliable - but it's easy to catch it's little oopsies. You just can't zone out and play with your phone **YET**. But it's getting appreciably better with each release.
My biggest problem with FSD isn't the AI and all of that - it's that it's reliant on Google Maps which has significant errors in some parts of the world. Near me, there is a traffic light junction which Google refuses to believe exists. So FSD takes a complicated back-roads route to get you anywhere close to that junction instead of just going the quick way. Although that's not Tesla's fault - it does make FSD a pain to deal with sometimes.
Impressive tech! Been using it since 2021 and it's getting better each day. It's like seeing a new driver not repeating the same mistake, I cheer it on every time 👏👏
Consider a world where Elon Musk never existed - Chatgpt, AI, self-landing rockets, full self-driving cars, and even colonizing Mars may have seemed like unattainable dreams. We are incredibly fortunate to have someone like Elon Musk pushing the boundaries of what's possible and inspiring us all to reach for the stars.
@@giorgiolelmi8175 Amen to that! He's an inspiration to the entire world on so many levels.
Other autonomous: mature then released to public. Tesla: relsed to public then it'll mature. Apparently Tesla's strategy is practical and other approaches are either geo-fenced and will take forever to mature. Keep up the good work.
I’ve had my Tesla for 6 months and love it, although I don’t have fsd, just the basic autopilot. As an airline pilot by trade I fully recognize the opportunities automation offer and also the challenges of the road forward. When Airbus first certified their a320 series aircraft, the most common two phrases where “what’s it doing now” and “look, it did it again”. That being said, automation has led to a more safe aviation experience and ultimately it will lead to safer roads. It’s just the process of getting there that will be incredibly challenging.
Awesome video, finally a clear explanation for people to see, only thing is a small error in the hardware side, since only the S and X have the GPU´s installed, the driving happens in the FSD computer which yes all tesla´s have.
I use FSD daily. The only thing it fails on for me is merging when a lane ends. So if you are road with 2 lanes going north and you are in the right lane. Then if the right lane ends FSD never acknowledges that is happening or that it happened.
FSD just eventually recognizes that there are 2 cars in one lane and does a bunch of weird things, like cutting someone off, to deal with the situation.
On my normal drives that is one of the only thing it has problems with. I have driven for over an hour before without any issues except for the issue above.
To be totally fair, the merging of two lanes into one lane in heavy traffic is an extremely anxiety driven exercise for a lot of drivers. Including myself. Especially since you have so many raging idiots on the road who just want to get ahead by a few cars by accelerating in the lane that's about to end, and then they do all sorts of shenanigans to get back to the other lane, as if it was their god given right. And you can see a few other cars that follow that accelerating car because they want to be assholes too.
How does it do now with the fsd updates?
I live in Seattle so don’t expect to get FSD 12 before 2025 because of the weather.
But FSD 11 keeps feeling more and more natural. But it still doesn’t acknowledge that a lane is ending sometimes so I usually just takeover for 30 seconds. For everything else it drives safer than most people I know
We've owned a Tesla X for over 6 years now... no issues at all... not a single one so far... not mechanical, not electronic, and not with the autopilot. However, we knew in advance that the autopilot was still in its infancy, and was not to be fully trusted, but more like a small child, that can do certain things well, but otherwise still needs supervision. Whether the final product is 6 years away, or 16 years away, the goal of autonomous vehicles has always been the same, to reduce auto accidents (and fatalities) by over 99%, allowing people to focus on more productive or enjoyable things, without all the stress, anxiety, road-rage, DUI's, and other issues that human drivers create. And just as the aviation industry improved with their autopilot, eventually the automobile industry will as well.
Well, I bought my Model Y 6 months ago here in Europe and I added FSD, because it is "dirt cheap" (about 4'000 USD) compared to 15'000USD in the US today. Maybe I can only use FSD in five (or ten) years, but by then it will be much more expensive. So I just wait and enjoy some tea. 😌
4000 USD is not FSD but EAP. Now put on those realityglasses and realize that if the car cant even automate the wipers, especially at night, and its been like that since TM3 intro 6 years ago, how should FSD ever get out of beta and surely not with the hardware you got in your model Y.
@@ChipMIK you're right. However, EAP was a must for me, so the up sale to FSD was not much anymore.
My colleague at work also complains about his Model 3 wiper logic, but I never have a problem with them and I'm driving 90% of the time with cruise control or auto pilot (which means the wipers are in auto mode).
I have FSD and use it every time I get in the car. When I first started using it I thought I must be lazy, but now I realize the mental load it takes off of my brain during my daily commute it is worth the money. It has improved a lot recently and I get excited for every firmware release. I can't wait for the merging of hwy and city FSD in V11 as the hwy FSD is not nearly as advanced as city street FSD. It is fun to track the improvements and experience them as the firmware improves and compare my experience with some of the youtubers who are also using FSD Beta.
I'm in the UK, paid the £6500 for FSD which isn't available yet. Bit of long shot but we expect to keep the car. Time will tell.
Of course it does get to provide enhanced autopilot and traffic queues melt away, as do longer highway drives. The reduction in mental fatigue is very noticeable already. It's surprising how much mental effort is subconsciously required to drive a manual car in a traffic jam. You only realise when you don't have to do it.
@@djtaylorutube I've drove in the UK and I agree with the mental fatigue as there is not one straight road in your country. Round abouts are still done OK and will get better, and dirtyTesla covers them extensively. My guess is since it is available in Canada it will get rolled out in other countries sooner than later.
For people like my son who's a quadriplegic and needs modifications to his vehicle to operate this would be amazing.
Excellent explanation
Amazing video and a lot of research. Thanks for doing your homework and showing us what you have leaned.
Sounds and looks like a sure thing. Driving will be doing the driving for us. At the moment I enjoy driving with a passion and do not need any help. However, if I can leave it all to AI and hugely intelligent automotive advances as mentioned here while I am tired but still need to get to my destination without fail or accident, or the weather suddenly makes driving dangerous, fsd is absolutely magical, probably life-saving and very very welcome, Hooray Elon!
Consider a world where Elon Musk never existed - Chatgpt, AI, self-landing rockets, full self-driving cars, and even colonizing Mars may have seemed like unattainable dreams. We are incredibly fortunate to have someone like Elon Musk pushing the boundaries of what's possible and inspiring us all to reach for the stars.
I'm really curious how these driving systems would handle winter in Minnesota? I think it will be a long time before they can handle that, if ever. This video really made me appreciate the human brain and just how much data we process without breaking a sweat.
FSD is more than a name, it’s a goal. From the data, it’s fairly successful and has been getting progressively better every year. However, edge cases haven’t been solved and it still occasionally acts in a non human like way. Those will be solved and it’s not many years off.
Not on current hardware, no way, never. Your falling for the marketing-bs & not seeing through those 1 MP cameras the cars got.
I have paid for FSD three times now. I have become a non believer though. I just think that driving has too many variable, and will never be sufficiently good enough. As an owner, and TSLA investor, I hope I’m wrong. But I don’t think I am.
You did a wonderful job explaining SFD thanks! It will be reality soon whether we like it or not!!!
I have had the oppurtunity to test a model 3 for a week with self driving capability. However it doesnt seem to work very well on our roads. I had to step in most of the times I activated it. The purpose is supposed to be giving me a more relaxed drive, but the reality is I am getting more stressed controlling the cars moves then when I drive myself.
I have been using it for 3 years. It has yet to bring me home by itself. On the turn about half a mile from jome, I can clearly hear the navigation system said "make a right turn now" the car would go straight; every time. Very consistent.
This was posted before superbowl?? Crazy timing
I have a couple questions. How does FSD handle corners? Does it slw down so you don't go careening into the corner? Also, how would it handle twisty mountain roads where there is no fog or center line? Thanks in advance.
In a world where all our thinking is done for us we will lose that capacity, especially as we age. Use it or lose it!
Amazing video dude. I just got a ride home from a friend in his brand new tesla. He let it drive itself the entire time and it did great!
FSD in Western Europe isn't widely available on all roads and in all types of areas. Basically, it is only sometimes available when I am driving on the highway for around 3-5 KM's, but very rarely in inner cities. When on the highway and engaged, every minute or so, it warns that I must apply pressure to the steering wheel lest it will shut itself off. If I don't squeeze the steering wheel stupidly tight, several times where the sensors are located or quickly agitate the steering wheel by making some small steering moves from left to right, it will also shut itself off. The feedback I have to give to the car to let it know that I am paying attention is too radical in my opinion, sometimes I wonder if the steering wheel sensors in my Model 3 are faulty. I rarely ever use FSD for more than 2 minutes at a time because of these reasons. A waste of 7.5K euro if you ask me. The feature that warns you when you should be braking because of some event that is taking place in front of you, I do think works well and has increased my safety.
The problem I see right now, is that driver complacency sets in while FSD or Autopilot is engaged. So if the car misidentifies the proper path (because of missing or contradictory road markings, for instance), I think the driver may be too flustered to grab control when it's necessary. I think many drivers are not prepared, nor capable of handling that properly.
We purchased FSD for our first Tesla. Our adult children have also purchased Tesla’s for there families. At this point in development we have recommended to our family, not to purchase the FSD. $15,000 is just not worth the cost for the limited capacity it offers at this time. In years to come, if or when, FSD really is FSD then they can rent or purchase it.
If FSD never happens do you get your money returned from Tesla for your purchase?
Based on my software career and my experience with my X, I'm guessing that FSD is maybe 10 years off and will be much less imperfect than human drivers. That said I'm all in but unfortunately I'll be too old to drive in 10 years. But wait......FSD will be my driver, I hope!. BTW your explanation of the process of building a model of the world in the computer is one o the best I've seen. But the explain of the operation of a neural net, while typical, really doesn't explain much. I'm as comfortable with the idea of a neural network (which I believe is the right direction for general computing), as I am with how linked blocks of digital meory and mining have anything to do with ghost-like things like digital currency. .
How about now? Do you see the end being closer?
Is it safe to sleep while using the advanced autopilot?
This video should be updated to explain how the newest version works, where it just inputs all the camera feeds directly into a neural network which then outputs to the controls without having to generate an internal 3d model.
Musk has almost got it. Another 2 years and I see robo taxis on the road. This is so much safer then human drivers. And it’s getting smarter every day
What vehicle/ digital display is that at about the 2:02 mark??? It looks like a Model 3 with digital dashboard that I’ve never seen before (I want it! Lol)
For Robo Taxi it has to be Full time and 100% responsible. 99% falls way short.
No mention of Hardware 4?
It’s that good they are bringing back ultrasonics.
My friends 6 year old child can't pronounce the letter R correctly that kid will never make it in the business world since they can't pronounce the letter R.
This is the type of complaint I hear from people a lot with learning computer systems. "See it couldn't do that thing, it will never work"
That being said. We got voice dictation to work in a quiet room 20 years ago. And it still doesn't work in a noisy environment.
So, the FSD computer prolly isn't a Raspberry Pi under the cover :)
Does the $15,000 FSD feature go with the owner or does it stay with the serial number of the car? Can you add the feature to a car someone may have had for years, or can it only be added with the original car purchase?
And....if I'm noodling around town and the cameras are sending all this data to my FSD, does it keep that data around in case I take the same route tomorrow? Can or does it upload any of that captured information back to Tesla to be used for training the AI back 'home' at the datacenter?
I am skeptical of FSDs response to unique driving scenarios that may cause the system to overcorrect/overreact: heavysnow, ice, heavy rain, oil slicks, unforeseen mechanical failures, deflated tires, roads that don't exist in reality, roads that dead end in reality and there's no place to turn around, large puddles that blend in with the road (undected by the camera), geo electric storms that cause the cars to shutdown in the middle of a highway or intersection.
I thought that Tesla's Autopilot also used a road map, with traffic light, stop sign positions, intersection lane layout and speed limits. Did they really ditch that too? 360⁰ lidar costs an arm and a leg, and fairly delicate, but downloading and refreshing the map costs nothing in comparison. They can outsource it. Google map has all that.
Improved Technology?!? 362K Tesla's recalled 16 Feb 23. Kudos Tesla! I'm sure this won't affect stock value... Riiiiiiiiiiight.
So why can’t Teslas have a bird’s eye view for parking environments?
Elon Musk is a true visionary and innovator who has made tremendous contributions to a wide range of fields, from electric cars to space exploration. His efforts have not only pushed the limits of technology, but have also sparked a global conversation about the possibilities of the future.
In terms of space exploration, Musk's company SpaceX has made incredible progress towards developing reusable rockets, which not only lowers the cost of space travel but also makes it more sustainable. This has brought the possibility of colonizing Mars closer to reality than ever before.
Musk's work in developing electric cars at Tesla has also made significant strides in reducing our dependence on fossil fuels, and has spurred other companies to invest in electric vehicle technology.
Beyond his technological achievements, Musk's determination and willingness to take risks has been a source of inspiration for many. He has faced setbacks and challenges along the way, but his unwavering commitment to his goals has helped him to overcome these obstacles and continue to make progress.
Overall, Elon Musk's impact on technology and innovation is undeniable, and it's exciting to think about what he and his companies will achieve in the future.
He’s bit off more than he can chew with Twitter, interesting you left that out of the puff piece.
I look forward to the day when I can have a Cybertruck follow me and my paragliding buddies on a cross country flight and pick us up! Also I really want to have to worry about having to drive back home, since a lot of those trips end up with me back at home around 1:00 a.m. .
Im here after the superbowl commercial lol
Great video!
I agree with Buddy Jenkins. It is long over due.
The challenging part getting to full autonomy is going to be the period of time in between where the driver is still responsible is the FSD fails. Who’s going to be at fault in the future?
I beleve that now the driver will be reponsible, but when FSD is legal it is the manufacturer that will be liable (as long as the car is properly maintained and the driver does not over-ride FSD. Tesla acknowledge this and it is one reason why they are rapidly expanding their own vehicle insurance and actively developing advanced crash avoidance and mitigation.
Yes, can’t wait.
I think that fsd exposes one big problem. The infrastructure.
This video is a good synopsis of V11 FSD; which we don't have in public BETA yet. Though Elon has said this week it'll go to the Tesla team at least. But using AI for control hasn't been done so far in V10 and below.
They need powerful processors to digitize and process the vector data, they should work with Apple and use ‘M chip’
Most Americans would NEVER let someone use their Tesla as a robotaxi - especially people who can afford a Tesla. Once again, Elon’s engineering is groundbreaking, but his vision isn’t so good when it comes to humans.
Yes
For those who dont need an car for daily commute, tesla taxi will be lifechanging.
I dont care if the car drives me from a to b at 150 130 or 90 km/h as long as i can sit in the backseat and arrive relaxed.
FSD in say a new car. Owner pays for FSD expecting to realize using it. 4 to 8 years later owner buy new tesla and never got a working FSD upgrade. Does owner need to start over in new car by paying another full cost for FSD or will owner get to keep the credit for FSD of 1st car and get FSD in 2nd car.
This would help an owner to invest in the future by not being penalized in delays or promises not met by tesla.
The Tesla computer compiles all the video from eight cameras with "zero latency." Ha!
Yes, great video ..looking forward to my new Tesla Cybertruck
What I wonder about, how does the cameras work so well, when there are rain drops or snow partially obscuring its vision. My back up camera is under a lip to partially cover it one supposes, and it becomes almost useless after several minutes of driving in the rain. That is a common theme where we live, T Space! 😂
I believe the answers to your point about cameras becoming obscured is that they are protected just as a humans eyes are protected e.g. by the windscreen. They are much better protected than a reversing camera as that is not a critical camera, whereas those used to drive the car are. Thus, FSD cameras have the same issues as human drivers, and if they cannot see well enough the carf will stop safely.
However, the cameras used have greater dynamic range than eyes, particuarily in the dark, they do not blink or water or get tired, so I believe they are safer.
Full hands off self driving is not possible because the neural network has no inherent sense of time. Current neural network architectures are essentially large scale regression models or sequence representation models like with ChatGPT. This means that the network can never understand causality and make true time-based predictions. Elon Musk admitted recently that FSD won’t be possible without solving general AI and why he’s pushing for the Optimus program. There needs to be a fundamental breakthrough in AI for FSD to be fully realized.
Have a nice day my dear friends.
Where is the AI data processing done? A Tesla server farm somewhere? (Does the car need a data connection for FSD to work?)
From where did the ksrtc bus come from?😂
There should always be a failsafe.
And the failsafe is lidar
*EPIC video!* Been waiting for this ;)
Autonomous driving will be good when all cars do it. The problem isn't the success rate of the AI, it's the error rate of human drivers.
Love the video man. My sole focus is FSD progression. Feel free to ping me or use my content to spread the knowledge 😬
Just checked out your channel CYBRLFT and subscribed, great work.. Do you own Tesla stock?
@@LDJSFGKJSFDOUKJ I appreciate it. I’m doing my best to be as great as the many channels I love and follow myself.
Far as the stock I have a small piece of the pie but yes.
3:07 Actually, the idea we use only vision for driving is complete nonsense. We also use our hearing (to listen for horns, emergency vehicles, etc). We also can feel if the car's grip is slipping, if we are driving over rumble strips, if we are are trying to turn too tightly at speed, etc.
Accelerometer, gyro and slippage sensors are definitely all there. Just like Mike for EVs.
I absolutley do think it is worth it. When Tesla has the trucks for sale that is what I am waiting for. Full self driving ability feature I would only trust Tesla to have this feature. Other makes althought they have vehicles on the road, they are no where near as advanced as Tesla. Tesla is the future. And when I buy an electric vehicle, it will only be Tesla.
KSRTC spotted at 9:09. malayalis like addikku 👇👇
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8:28
why they dont use a higher polling rate??? like 1000hz to be able to respond faster and be safer than any human.?
You do realize all of the cars come with the same hardware so there’s literally no reason to pay $15,000 today when you can add it or subscribe to it later when it’s Finally ready
Repeat: all of the cars come with the same hardware so you do not have to pay $15,000 to have FSD hardware - you can wait until it’s ready
Well you really showed a good example of craziness and possibilities of a real brain. Funny how 15k may not be safe today..😫 but maybe tomorrow. I'm already realizing the positive side, but complacency can be the human brain malfunction because just the basic adas system I didn't realize my brain would think it was off when it chimed but I honestly was distracted and hit the guardrail. I realized thinking it continued to stay on but I overrode the controls for a split second. I was just beginning to get used to the simple system. Now this is my brain and realized at the time if I would have realized not overriding the adas system, I would have not kissed the guard rail. So does AI use complacency?😵💫
@12:38 *_Cuphead_* It's even worse than that. The games are running in a separate computer, as are the communications, as are the event logging, and so on.
The FSD and its _shadow_ are implemented in a pair of _FPGAs_ (Field Programable Gate Arrays,) which are running redundantly with the one in _shadow_ mode doing computation not related to driving but instead to monitoring the cabin and environment, taking care of various housekeeping tasks, preparing to take control instantly if the primary (or ego) is damaged in any way.
What I would like to see is to have the computer in my car learn from me. FSD, today, is too agressive on the accelerator and brake. Approaching a red light it will go the speed limit until it hits the beginning of a needlessly agressive deceleration curve and be hard on the brakes. All this does is wear the tires and waste energy. If over time the car would just monitor my driving technique and skew its AI model to the way I drive it would be so much better, for me. It also likes to be in the exact center of the lane markings. Sounds good, but this is not always ideal. On a two lane road with a white line on the right and 10 feet of shoulder people unconsiously drive closer to the right so as not to be so close to oncoming traffic. FSD also likes to wait to put on the blinker for a left turn right until it starts to break and then get in the turn lane. It should put on the blinker a few seconds earlier to let others know what you will be doing and it should get in the turn lane before braking.
Cool
I have own tesla. I can't self drive but myself hands.
I understand everybody could be scared of FSD because its new and possibly dangerous. But lets consider the roads today, I know many friends and family members who have lost family members because of accidents, drunk drivers, high drivers, or just bad injurys etc. Imagine the possibility of FSD to help change that future. Just consider the road safety today.
I just consider all the times my TM3 has utterly screwed up, then i stop considering and realize just how far from FSD any company in the world are.
I didn't know flashing your bright lights access Full Self Driving?
36 fps?
Out to my people realising that this needs to be higher for the whole system to be more fluent.
Not even one Tesla in South Africa yet.
FSD is not worth it right now, but Tesla keeps upping the price, so it may be wise to purchase it before the price doubles again. I have mixed feelings about autopilots after having lived through the eco terrorists dropping the highway speeds to 55 way back when. EVERYBODY lost all of their high-speed intuitive reaction times during the lull.
AFAIC, most drivers on the road today can't even STEER a car, let alone DRIVE one. The newspapers are all full of people driving into stores (oops, hit the wrong pedal!), rolling their cars at 25mph (a mean feat), or ramming cars on the freeway in front of them who have slowed for traffic. (despite the 400 glaring stop lights on cars in front of them).
If you can afford it great!
36? damn, any human would crash if we had 36 fps. we poll at least 200hz.
So the car is looking at all possibilitys like docter strange?
Yeah - Artificial Intelligence is alien in nature - it's not thinking like a human...but it's definitely thinking.
Lol Dan O'Dowd is about to be sued for the superbowl add.
If I was rich, I would pay the $15,000 for FSD, just to support the future development.
You might need to rethink this video tesla is now recalling 362000 tesla cars because fears that the self driving beta is too dangerous will cause more deadly car accidents
Wait, whaaa? Can u explain or post a link?
I definitely believe tesla is in 1st place on autonomous drive but I'm not sure it's gonna happen in 2023 in a long time Elon promise 😉 ..but I believe will happen 🙏 before 2030
0 latency, that would imply infinity speed, that is a violation of the laws of physics. Not possible.
There are a number of inaccurate statements in this video. Autopilot and FSD are different products with widely different capabilities and product descriptions. FSD is still a BETA. It is not a finished product. The system is not made to learn your individual daily commute from repeated use.
Only the model S and X have the upgraded Ryzen CPU and GPU and you're not able to play games while driving yet because FSD is a beta and you are still required to pay attention all the time.
Unless Tesla greatly reduces the cost of FSD, I won't get it. I wonder what percentage of their customers are buying it now. Tesla is basically charging their customers for chauffer service without a guarantee that it will work. Just my humble opinion.