It's painful to listen to kids like this talk about how crazy it is to believe in God or believe that a man raised from the dead... However this same person finds it more believable that a rock could have consciousness. 🤦🏻 So glad I never wasted any of my money or time going to college.😂
I've not heard any atheist say they believe a rock could have consciousness. Science hasn't worked out how life originated. How old do you think this planet is BLACK HAZE?
Great job with patience, understanding and wisdom with these deceived kids, pointing patiently at Christ, thank god for you cliff, I pray for you to keep plowing and these kids to top off all their knowledge with trust in Christ!!!!!!
"We are struggling now to understand if inanimate objects have consciousness" Cliff, hats down to have a patience with such kids. So much deception there is. Stay strong and God bless.
I find it interesting these kids speak so boldly on subjects and ideas of which they have only dipped their toes in the pool of knowledge that Cliffe has been swimming in since they were born. Mr. Dunning and Mr. Kruger are strongly present in college campuses
Hello, my name is Ernie and I love to connect with people to grow with them spiritually through God's Word. This Saturday (3.26.22) at 10:30am pst & 6:30pm PST through Zoom, we have a bible seminar. I can send you the link or more information. May you receive this as a blessing.
This boy thinks he’s come to this enlightenment through his own intellect. Not through his teachers and professors influence. Evident in his opening remarks about Osiris and Mithras. Fascinating.
@@GraftedOliveBranch good morning to you as well in Australia how is the Down Under well here right now it's 9 p.m. in east coast oh, God bless you brother.
i know these kids are just expressing what they think as honestly and openly as they can. But, the same rule applies here. Don't get sucked down by people, because they'll bring you down to their level and beat you at their own game. I'm sure i'm saying the expression totally wrong..
I had this student's thinking as well. Some believe if you can match your vibration to money, money will come to you. Most want what is in the here and now, sex, money, power... I'm 58 now, I am a Christ follower.
Wow, a very interesting debate.well handled on both sides. I have never heard the interpretation of life that the student held so I was stumped on a rebuttal but cliff handled it beautifully
The reason why the student gets so well is because this was done years ago it's an older reloaded video and got them students have more of a brain and thoughts themselves to ask appropriate questions.
The way these young people argue reminds me so much of the way people from a certain "religion of peace" do; i.e. by jumping from one item to the next on their list, while quoting this and that along the way, without even making any coherent argument after being given a refutation..
I agree. It's an argument technique used by others trying to fool others. These students may not be consciously trying to fool others but it follows the pattern of those who are trying to fool others. It also keeps these young people from digging through the evidence. If they did properly go through it, they would see the truth. They also could be looking for random excuses to not actually pursue God. It's sad but we can often see this in the commenters who will add their words to this thread. If you try to discuss with them, they will fly from argument to argument, without actually digging into it.
Atheist do it all the time. When you make an argument that makes sense regarding God atheist change to subject to "prove God exist or you argument is irrelevant"
The young man in the backpack gives me hope for the younger generation. It took me 30+ years in christianity, 4 years at a christian university, 10+ years meditating and studying theology to figure out what this kid already knows. I think Wayne Dyer was the first person I heard put into words an explanation of spirit/god/source/consciousness in the way I was born understanding it. When this young man finds his connection with higher consciousness he'll be unstoppable. Gives me hope for humanity. ❤
Bless you cliff for your patience you show when some of these youngsters say the most sarcastic and rude things to you! Remember Matthew 5:10-12 Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.”
It's not about yourself to have all in order, because we can do all of the impossible-looking things because Jesus and the Holy Spirit are with us and I believe it
Wow Pastor Cliffe really proved himself a man of science and of God, I thought I was watching & listening to Pastor Gino Jennings!😄hahaha God bless you Pastor Cliffe!🙏💖😊✌
The fact that Cliffe studies other beliefs other than Christianity tells that he is not closed minded for other ideas. He is full of knowledge and wisdom!
Wow. That exchange had a very distinct spiritual warfare flavor. It was amazing how confidently the young men asserted things about reality for which nothing but vague references to quantum mechanics was given in support. They seemed to be evangelizing for their cultish ideas rather than wanting engagement with Cliff's worldview, swarming Cliff with a torrent of declarations that could not possibly be answered in the forum of discussion they were in. But what certainty youth has! And what ignorance! Wow.
Young people are more awake. They know that a God would not send billions of nonbelievers to eternal hell. That proves that the Bible was made up and written by man as God was humanized. These young men are wise
@K H they don’t like Jesus as he is a despot. Don’t follow him and you burn in hell. That’s pure evil. Realistically, Jesus never said that, would never do that if he was god. But of course it’s a myth
Boy, I never thought (as a child, teen, young adult) I was this smart.... Kuddos to these kids for thinking so, my issue here is that they believe Cliff and people like him just became a believer last night, and never heard these objections before today (day of the recording)
I blame the education system for this.. for someone to even entertain the idea that Rocks have consciousness. Thinking that he's wise, sounding like a fool
I used to watch this show years ago. Watching it again and seeing the difference in these young people makes me sad. We are truly close to the tribulation. Society is so brainwashed, these young people are unable to break free. Maranatha
Does a rock have consciousness? Well if you take a video game as an example (not the best one) you find that the rock in the game comprises code. In this case, the rock contains building blocks almost similar to our bodies. These building blocks at a quantum level or even beyond it all come from consciousness. Everything is energy. So the rock in the video game is programmed to be a rock, in reality, the rock that we see is energy that has to be ordered (programmed) without violating the laws of the universe for it to physically appear as a rock. One can say it's frozen frequency or rather frozen consciousness. The universe made manifest is all consciousness/energy in different forms like in the video game. The rock and all other innate objects that make up our reality and environment are there so that we can experience this physical reality. This doesn't mean that they are made of a different substance. It's the purpose. Externalisation is an illusion. Check out these points I found: •"All creatures and things are spiritual beings having a manifest experience... No creature or thing can be even divorced from its innate spirituality, but only from the awareness of its nature. For life is the expression and substance of spirit- and manifest reality is a dreamscape, from which we eventually all awaken..." •Nothing is truly manifest- it only appears to be so, due to the refraction of consciousness within the energetic relationship inherent to the Holographic Template-the original thought-form construct upon which our universal structure is perpetually recreated. •We perceive manifest solidity due to the relationship between the frequencies of consciousness of which we are made and those of the Unified Field of Conscious Energy around us. Humans perceive as solid the frequency bands that exist one full dimensional spectrum below the frequencies within which the individuated or collective consciousness is stationed. This is not for the faint-hearted or the narrow-minded. Peace and Love.
Having had an eye opening encounter with Jesus i cannot deny his death burial and resurrection. I only pray He reveal himself more and more. Let their eyes be opened
@@theoskeptomai2535 yes He is. 10 years ago while i was complete sober and sound mind i had an experience with Jesus Christ. He is very real. I feel as if explaining it to you would be throwing pearls to swine. You already don't believe. I know in my heart what happened that day.
@@godislove363 You can join in on the discussion instead of simply casting baseless insults. How about you, Jacob. Do you assert that this god Joe M mentions is a _reality?_
LOVE THIS! The description of what it means to be created in the likeness and image of God is not merely physical and the absence/presence of aliens/dinasoars etc do not debunk philosophy.
Lol the way they made that huge jump to “…Quantum Mechanics!” Is hilarious. I literally spit out my coffee. Their worldview makes no sense, entertaining to hear then try to explain it.
Prayers to him. Folks so intelligent their dumb💯not being mean but truthful. Instead of gathering experience and wisdom he believes knowing a bunch of false opinions makes them true when he’s just memorizing false intelligence
They all seemed to go different extents to avoid god being even a possibility. This is why apologetics/further research or similar conversations with a believer/non is needed. Second kid moved the post from a conscious being, into us being god/beings. Which is relative and contradictory. Tho at least he believes in a higher power, it isn't a consistent picture of that higher power nor the whole picture. Last kid was nihilistic yet consistent with his worldview although we'd disagree. He did have a point, to a certain extent. as why would humans reflect God if we suck haha. Poor kid has no hope and is stained with humanities sins that he can't see that reflection at times. Thanks for the video guys appreciate them God bless! 🙏
I have to say i start to find it harder and harder to love people who make the choice to make up such a complex delusions to fit there wicked desires.... I know i ones was like those people but even with that knowledge i find it really hard to love liars, manipulators, deceivers and idolators.... And maybe it's also that we need to not be deceived about how evil people can be. I mean, if it was allowed, such people would actually kill us for saying that they have broken the law of God and needed to repent... Any ideas how to faithfully keep on loving the lost?
At 11:16 - the young man said, "we're born with a spirit". Hold on! If we're born with a spirit then doesn't that imply that there is such a thing called "spiritual", and if there is, then there is such a thing called supernatural, and if there is, then there is GOD. How do you make a point then make assertions that destroy your own point? This reminds me of Romans 1:21-22 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. And 1 Corinthians 1:18-27 18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.” c 20Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. 26Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.
I got frustrated today over an atheist whose heart is sooo hard and won't believe in God. To that person, the Gospel is foolish. "Intelligent" people will do everything and waste their time studying stuff just to disprove God's existence. I'm so amazed how the Bible has every answer I need. Will highlight these verses. Thanks for sharing!
27:10 1 Corinthians 15:40 KJV "There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another."
Wow! That was a good conversation with those young men! Keep the good battle. BTW the Bible does mention dinosaurs. It doesn’t use the word “dinosaur” because that word was invented after the Bible was written. In Genesis it says that God created the great sea monsters. Also in the book of Job it talks about Leviathan and Behemoth which were probably dinos.
And goes even deeper than that wellstone let's try to tell people that are enjoying the flood all the time this was completely Perish we have lizards and other things.
When the flood came it wiped out most of the great beasts. The Bible does also speak of Nephilim which were corrupt. So the flood may have served to rid the world of the corrupted beasts (dinosaur?) in addition to the people who were judged refused to believe in God and continue in their sin and evil.
Hey Cliff awesome work..just wanted to point out that the word "image" is a pretty poor English word to capture the Hebrew idea. A better word is AMBASSADOR. Peace and blessings
All I get from this video is how youth is the dum&est period of a person's life. hahahahahah the kid thinks he knows yet he knows nothing. so many fallacies built into his reasoning. science can not explain philosophical questions. I admire this man's patience, Ihave no time for i&iotic kids.
A head of lettuce doesn't have a nervous system, it can't suffer. If it could suffer, then we might have ethical obligations to it, as humanists believe we have towards each other, and as animal rights activists believe we have towards animals. The underlying principle is the capacity to experience.
"I would never want" ≠ sound argument or good reasons. *BONNIE* is all about "preferences", but when other folks don't share his "preferences" he thinks they are wrong-even though he also claims that it is all subjective. He believes that the objective truth is that all beliefs about morality are subjective-even though he also believes that some things really are wrong-even though he claims he doesn't... _Ya follow?_ Neither does he! But the alternative is the Jesus of the Bible, and Bonnie isn't willing to go there, so he keeps repeating nonsense... _Don't believe me?_ He should be here any minute now-eager as ever to run in more circles. Just wait... He's coming... Him and the rest of the resident trolls who have been suffering withdrawl since Cliffe didn't post a video last week. 😉🙃
You've completely misrepresented my views on morality Jesse, I'll be happy to go through it with you step by step, so you hear it from the horses mouth so to speak. Do you accept that we all have personal unique thoughts.. no 2 people have identical thoughts.. can we at the very least agree on that?
Jesse Bryant couldn't comprehend an opposing argument if you were to talk to him like an infant. 1) Yes...Jesse...Bonnie has a moral compass and believes that there are morals that are good and bad depending on his experiences, how he was raised, the culture he is from, the parents who raised him, and the society he lives in. 2) However, he knows that not every culture, society, race, or individual, will agree with his own personal moral code. That's why it is subjective and not objective. 3) Example - Bonnie might believe that it is morally wrong to kill another person, ever; whereas, I believe, that it is morally acceptable to end the life of anyone who is so base in thinking and barbaric, that they are a dreg, to everyone they come across. 4) In your comment you basically said that because Bonnie doesn't ape your moral views; then, he is not allowed to have a moral code. You are the epitome of ignorance and Christians deserve to have you on their side. 5) Everytime Cliff uploads a video you are the first person to call out Bonnie with lies and innuendos, and then, you chastise him when he answers your initial invitation. 6) You actually think that "Subjective Morality" means that someone is void of morals. Are you that scurvy.? It's a wonder, cancer polyps don't drop off of you, as you're walking down the street.
@@jackalsgate1146 @Jesse Bryant You are completely misconstruing the misunderstanding at the same time but he is talking about different but because of your own subjective thinking you don't care pension to his objective credit and no I'm not playing working with you or being quite serious.
@@jackalsgate1146 Excellently stated JG. It's also worth pointing out that we're capable of adjusting our moral views when we're shown an alternative that appears to have more benefits than drawbacks for society as a whole.. we use our own unique subjective thought process to weigh up the pro's and cons of a given action, and make a judgment on the alternative. It's very much situational and based on what we observe. Rather than taking our moral codes from an ancient book which may well have suited ancient societies and worked for them... we humans are pretty good at figuring out better ways to treat one another. Some countries are well behind current moral thinking eg: in Saudi Arabia they still chop people's hands off for stealing, whereas other countries are catching up fast, in Spain, bullfighting is very much frowned upon by much of their society now.. torturing a bull isn't seen as such a noble sport nowadays. The tide is turning.
The resident trolls have arrived! Right on Q! And Bonnie is lying... Again! ... Just like always. But as predicted, he would be more than happy to run around in circles... AGAIN! For God knows how many more days! Uhm... No. (Proverbs 1:22, 14:7, 18:2, 26:12, 29:9)
People make up their own gospel or make science their gospel. According to the scriptures Jesus Christ is far greater than man-MLK, Gondi and Adam because He is God and was a perfect man that’s the difference. People deny God’s power because of “interpretation” they deny the Holy Spirit. GOD is far greater than man because He is GOD the Almighty, He’s infinite we’re finite. Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
10:06 Surprising how u can want so much proof but yet boldly proclaim an idea that has no prooof 🧐. Seems people find anything but Jesus more attractive. People will even say we live in a simulation that had no proof. (John 3:19) "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. (20) Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed."
@@lightworker4512 nah you’re just deceived by the enemy into thinking you have some type of power. When in reality you can’t create anything or do anything to change the laws of reality
@@avoid222 we are all creators in this material world. For example, I created my family, my profession as a physician and surgeon (recently retired), a business, a better life for all the people I helped over 40 years, et. There are laws of this reality but we can and do co-create our reality as the Divine Spirit is within all of humanity. Unfortunately, most people have a very limited consciousness and are programmed to believe that you have to be Christian to be saved. As a physician, I would not follow let alone believe in a God that would send nonbelievers to eternal Hell. Original sin is simply separation of our Divine eternal soul (light) and our human mind/ego. Darkness cannot enter light, our souls are eternal and do not go to hell
@@avoid222 understand too, we are not truly separate from the Creator but part of the Creator. How could we not be? Just as our children share our DNA, we share the Divine energy of the Creator. Man made religion has perverted God, hence the Chaos and suffering that continues.
I still don't see why the experience of Love, Justice, Freedom points to anything beyond our experience of them. The apologist wishes to suggest these things point to a transcendent world..a ladder of being where theses values exist eternally. It's interesting to think about..but I'm not sure he made a case for it
KJV Psalms 27:11-14 11 Teach me thy way, O LORD, and lead me in a plain path, because of mine enemies. 12 Deliver me not over unto the will of mine enemies: for false witnesses are risen up against me, and such as breathe out cruelty. 13 I had fainted, unless I had believed to see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living. 14 Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD.
15:05 I would never hurt another human because we are in the same species, maybe not you but what about people who do hurt others, murder, rape, stealing, cheating, rape, war, selfishness, greed, physopath, and all the evil in the world
Is recorded history like the whispering game "telephone"? It's said there's no dumb questions but what about when a kid gets the question itself wrong? These conversations often start with false questions being asked wasting lots of time.
@@godislove363 I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt... and ask him what the question should have been. That might enable a conversation to develop. _Don't you think?_ 😉
I apologize I deleted my answer from hours ago because when I read your comments again this morning I realized I was wrong for speeding, I was very tired when I typed it so please forgive me.
@@jessebryant9233 I already corrected myself Jesse thank you I saw your comment after I corrected myself but I was quite tired last night and I saw his comment wrong so I fixed it by deleting it and then apologizing. Atheist on here Christians who really are Christians would do the right thing as I did I'm like the atheist usually don't.
For a second I thought that the guy in the blue shirt would have something interesting to say about his study of history or science, but then he just started making up the lore for his own fantasy novel.
@@JohnjOcampoI’d rather be positive, kind, accept people have different upbringings and beliefs, I’m not religious in the slightest but I still have religious friends and I accept them for who they are, as long as they are kind. If I was religious, I certainly wouldn’t consider for a moment that I would get into heaven by judging complete strangers, I read the bible many years ago, Jesus was very accepting so I’m not sure if y’all make up your own rules to fit your own idea of heaven or not, because cruelty is at the bottom of the pile.
God has made it so simple that lots of folk will not get it . If we don’t believe the truth we will believe the lies Which there are many . Debates , debates don’t achieve much but maybe a little seed will be sown .
"I may lack proper education in science, but look at how i prance around and pretend to be smart (like some uber street corner preacher) while i talk about my imaginary invisible deity who obviously has super powers, duh.."
It's mind blowing how these kids, who think they're so smart because they've enrolled in college, find it so hard to believe in Jesus but yet they'll believe that rocks have a conscience 🤔
It's painful to listen to kids like this talk about how crazy it is to believe in God or believe that a man raised from the dead... However this same person finds it more believable that a rock could have consciousness. 🤦🏻 So glad I never wasted any of my money or time going to college.😂
No kidding.. its like they would go to any extent to deny God's existence. God bless
I've not heard any atheist say they believe a rock could have consciousness. Science hasn't worked out how life originated. How old do you think this planet is BLACK HAZE?
it was a magical rock.
@@Jacob.Ponce01 Religious ppl will go to any extent to believe in a god even if there’s no way to prove it
@@galleriet3185 But theres evidence of God. Just listen to Cliffes other videos. He explains it very well. I
Great job with patience, understanding and wisdom with these deceived kids, pointing patiently at Christ, thank god for you cliff, I pray for you to keep plowing and these kids to top off all their knowledge with trust in Christ!!!!!!
I agree Cliff is the man
"We are struggling now to understand if inanimate objects have consciousness" Cliff, hats down to have a patience with such kids. So much deception there is. Stay strong and God bless.
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@@michaeljackson8390 There is a video with a singing cat that has more views than that.
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I find it interesting these kids speak so boldly on subjects and ideas of which they have only dipped their toes in the pool of knowledge that Cliffe has been swimming in since they were born. Mr. Dunning and Mr. Kruger are strongly present in college campuses
Ego and ignorance, sometimes you can't fix them both.
@@IBenZik your describing pride
@@matthewhawthorne8411 That makes 2 of us that understand that it's "false pride".
Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father. I am thankful that the Father gave me faith to believe his Son.
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That’s why I get confused when people say god shouldn’t have given us free will just because some use it for evil
I like these long, complete conversations more than the clips although the clips are cool too.
Same, I always want the longer convos
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Hello, my name is Ernie and I love to connect with people to grow with them spiritually through God's Word.
This Saturday (3.26.22) at 10:30am pst & 6:30pm PST through Zoom, we have a bible seminar. I can send you the link or more information. May you receive this as a blessing.
The longer conversations you get the full info. Cliffe usually starts at point A to get to point D so you need the full clips.
This kid is displaying a lot of blind faith.
This boy thinks he’s come to this enlightenment through his own intellect. Not through his teachers and professors influence. Evident in his opening remarks about Osiris and Mithras. Fascinating.
No need to be condescenting , he is a young man , not a boy but pershaps you are a superior saved xtians so it adds up.
@@ericscaillet2232 No Eric, I didn’t mean to be condescending I’m just old. All young men under twenty are boys to me 🤷♂️
@@ericscaillet2232 stop being so sensitive especially in your older ages.
I love Cliffe's way of debating them. He beats them on their own turf.
PROFESSING THEMSELVES TO BE WISE THE BECAME FOOLS.
All praise, honour, and glory belong to Jesus Christ, the King of kings and Lord of lords.
Amen, off to dreamland brother.
@@godislove363
Goodnight. ✌️
Yes, God deserves all praise and Christ our Creator and Savior.
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Good morning brother.
@@GraftedOliveBranch good morning to you as well in Australia how is the Down Under well here right now it's 9 p.m. in east coast oh, God bless you brother.
respect to Cliffe. so hard to converse with delusionals but Cliffe did it so well. .
Cliffe deserves Nobel prize for keeping his composure from an avalanche of thoughtless questions.
i know these kids are just expressing what they think as honestly and openly as they can.
But, the same rule applies here. Don't get sucked down by people, because they'll bring you down to their level and beat you at their own game.
I'm sure i'm saying the expression totally wrong..
I had this student's thinking as well. Some believe if you can match your vibration to money, money will come to you. Most want what is in the here and now, sex, money, power... I'm 58 now, I am a Christ follower.
AMEN, GOD BLESS AND WELCONE TO HIS LOVE AND TRUTH.
Wow, a very interesting debate.well handled on both sides. I have never heard the interpretation of life that the student held so I was stumped on a rebuttal but cliff handled it beautifully
The reason why the student gets so well is because this was done years ago it's an older reloaded video and got them students have more of a brain and thoughts themselves to ask appropriate questions.
@@godislove363 Lol
The way these young people argue reminds me so much of the way people from a certain "religion of peace" do; i.e. by jumping from one item to the next on their list, while quoting this and that along the way, without even making any coherent argument after being given a refutation..
I agree. It's an argument technique used by others trying to fool others. These students may not be consciously trying to fool others but it follows the pattern of those who are trying to fool others.
It also keeps these young people from digging through the evidence. If they did properly go through it, they would see the truth.
They also could be looking for random excuses to not actually pursue God. It's sad but we can often see this in the commenters who will add their words to this thread. If you try to discuss with them, they will fly from argument to argument, without actually digging into it.
JWs
Islam lol
Atheist do it all the time. When you make an argument that makes sense regarding God atheist change to subject to "prove God exist or you argument is irrelevant"
Thanks Cliffe, for yet another interesting and informative video.
The young man in the backpack gives me hope for the younger generation. It took me 30+ years in christianity, 4 years at a christian university, 10+ years meditating and studying theology to figure out what this kid already knows. I think Wayne Dyer was the first person I heard put into words an explanation of spirit/god/source/consciousness in the way I was born understanding it. When this young man finds his connection with higher consciousness he'll be unstoppable. Gives me hope for humanity. ❤
Wtf?!
Man, it takes more than a faith being a unbeliever. Imagining all of these things just to escape light. REPENT AND TRUST ALONE IN JESUS
Amen to that.
Love Cliff! 😎
Bless you cliff for your patience you show when some of these youngsters say the most sarcastic and rude things to you! Remember Matthew 5:10-12 Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.”
To challenge all this smart college students without losing patient you must really have it all in order
Much respect
It's not about yourself to have all in order, because we can do all of the impossible-looking things because Jesus and the Holy Spirit are with us and I believe it
So true Cliff, God bless you even more and your family!
I lost brain cells, but I gained more respect for Cliffe 🤣
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Cliff- 'Does this stone have consciousness?"
Student- "We are still investigating that."
Wait, What?😮🤦🏾♂️
university education seems to be paying off for him.
Wonderful discussion
I really admire your patience , if that is how patient you are how much more our God who gives you the spirit of patience
Wow Pastor Cliffe really proved himself a man of science and of God, I thought I was watching & listening to Pastor Gino Jennings!😄hahaha God bless you Pastor Cliffe!🙏💖😊✌
Gino would snap them boys like twigs lol.
The fact that Cliffe studies other beliefs other than Christianity tells that he is not closed minded for other ideas. He is full of knowledge and wisdom!
That lil fella is self deceived
Thanks for the insightful video.
Wow. That exchange had a very distinct spiritual warfare flavor. It was amazing how confidently the young men asserted things about reality for which nothing but vague references to quantum mechanics was given in support. They seemed to be evangelizing for their cultish ideas rather than wanting engagement with Cliff's worldview, swarming Cliff with a torrent of declarations that could not possibly be answered in the forum of discussion they were in. But what certainty youth has! And what ignorance! Wow.
Young people are more awake. They know that a God would not send billions of nonbelievers to eternal hell. That proves that the Bible was made up and written by man as God was humanized. These young men are wise
@K H they don’t like Jesus as he is a despot. Don’t follow him and you burn in hell. That’s pure evil.
Realistically, Jesus never said that, would never do that if he was god. But of course it’s a myth
@@lightworker4512 its your ego that attaches all that loaded nonsense as opposed to maybe playing in traffic is bad.
Yes it was a great interaction, that kid had a strong faith in...something!
Boy, I never thought (as a child, teen, young adult) I was this smart.... Kuddos to these kids for thinking so, my issue here is that they believe Cliff and people like him just became a believer last night, and never heard these objections before today (day of the recording)
Really good video.
This one was one of the best for the times of today
I blame the education system for this.. for someone to even entertain the idea that Rocks have consciousness. Thinking that he's wise, sounding like a fool
Generation of fool like i was before .thank for brother cliff and his patience.
So, if I pick up a rock and grind it to dust will it cause you harm?
Thank you!
I used to watch this show years ago.
Watching it again and seeing the difference in these young people makes me sad. We are truly close to the tribulation. Society is so brainwashed, these young people are unable to break free. Maranatha
Does a rock have consciousness? Well if you take a video game as an example (not the best one) you find that the rock in the game comprises code. In this case, the rock contains building blocks almost similar to our bodies. These building blocks at a quantum level or even beyond it all come from consciousness. Everything is energy. So the rock in the video game is programmed to be a rock, in reality, the rock that we see is energy that has to be ordered (programmed) without violating the laws of the universe for it to physically appear as a rock. One can say it's frozen frequency or rather frozen consciousness.
The universe made manifest is all consciousness/energy in different forms like in the video game. The rock and all other innate objects that make up our reality and environment are there so that we can experience this physical reality. This doesn't mean that they are made of a different substance. It's the purpose. Externalisation is an illusion.
Check out these points I found:
•"All creatures and things are spiritual beings having a manifest experience... No creature or thing can be even divorced from its innate spirituality, but only from the awareness of its nature. For life is the expression and substance of spirit- and manifest reality is a dreamscape, from which we eventually all awaken..."
•Nothing is truly manifest- it only appears to be so, due to the refraction of consciousness within the energetic relationship inherent to the Holographic Template-the original thought-form construct upon which our universal structure is perpetually recreated.
•We perceive manifest solidity due to the relationship between the frequencies of consciousness of which we are made and those of the Unified Field of Conscious Energy around us. Humans perceive as solid the frequency bands that exist one full dimensional spectrum below the frequencies within which the individuated or collective consciousness is stationed.
This is not for the faint-hearted or the narrow-minded.
Peace and Love.
Having had an eye opening encounter with Jesus i cannot deny his death burial and resurrection. I only pray He reveal himself more and more. Let their eyes be opened
My eyes are wide open and I have never encountered any evidence that suggests such an existence. Are you asserting this Jesus is a _reality?_
This is one of our regular trollsf, his eyes actually aren't open, he does not want to see truth he's a fool in sheep's clothing.
@@theoskeptomai2535 yes He is. 10 years ago while i was complete sober and sound mind i had an experience with Jesus Christ. He is very real. I feel as if explaining it to you would be throwing pearls to swine. You already don't believe. I know in my heart what happened that day.
@@joem13yearsago73 Are you able to observe this god?
@@godislove363 You can join in on the discussion instead of simply casting baseless insults. How about you, Jacob. Do you assert that this god Joe M mentions is a _reality?_
LOVE THIS! The description of what it means to be created in the likeness and image of God is not merely physical and the absence/presence of aliens/dinasoars etc do not debunk philosophy.
Rocks potentially have conscience? Gee I can't wait till we discover that.
That was really nice
Lol the way they made that huge jump to “…Quantum Mechanics!” Is hilarious. I literally spit out my coffee. Their worldview makes no sense, entertaining to hear then try to explain it.
You claim to know these students' worldviews?
There certainly was a hodgepodge of beliefs being presented, no consistency.
@@theoskeptomai2535 the kid that went on a tangent made his views very clear
@hefty magic So because he made his views about Christianity clear, you presume to know his worldview. Is that correct?
Prayers to him. Folks so intelligent their dumb💯not being mean but truthful. Instead of gathering experience and wisdom he believes knowing a bunch of false opinions makes them true when he’s just memorizing false intelligence
A rock has consciousness? LMAO!
With spirit all things are possible, apparently.
Didn't john the Baptist say God could bring up sons from the rocks? Your beliefs are cut from the same cloth
They all seemed to go different extents to avoid god being even a possibility. This is why apologetics/further research or similar conversations with a believer/non is needed. Second kid moved the post from a conscious being, into us being god/beings. Which is relative and contradictory. Tho at least he believes in a higher power, it isn't a consistent picture of that higher power nor the whole picture. Last kid was nihilistic yet consistent with his worldview although we'd disagree. He did have a point, to a certain extent. as why would humans reflect God if we suck haha. Poor kid has no hope and is stained with humanities sins that he can't see that reflection at times. Thanks for the video guys appreciate them God bless! 🙏
@Eo's moonlight 🌙 o no of course what i meant was that at the moment he has no hope meaning he has no hope for heaven/an Afterlife.
Both the conversations were excellent
Amazing Work.
Jesus is رب اللوردات (Lord of lords)!
Amen and God bless you sister!
I have to say i start to find it harder and harder to love people who make the choice to make up such a complex delusions to fit there wicked desires....
I know i ones was like those people but even with that knowledge i find it really hard to love liars, manipulators, deceivers and idolators....
And maybe it's also that we need to not be deceived about how evil people can be. I mean, if it was allowed, such people would actually kill us for saying that they have broken the law of God and needed to repent...
Any ideas how to faithfully keep on loving the lost?
At 11:16 - the young man said, "we're born with a spirit". Hold on! If we're born with a spirit then doesn't that imply that there is such a thing called "spiritual", and if there is, then there is such a thing called supernatural, and if there is, then there is GOD. How do you make a point then make assertions that destroy your own point? This reminds me of Romans 1:21-22
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.
And 1 Corinthians 1:18-27
18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.” c
20Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.
26Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.
I got frustrated today over an atheist whose heart is sooo hard and won't believe in God. To that person, the Gospel is foolish. "Intelligent" people will do everything and waste their time studying stuff just to disprove God's existence.
I'm so amazed how the Bible has every answer I need. Will highlight these verses. Thanks for sharing!
27:10 1 Corinthians 15:40 KJV
"There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another."
*these people are confused in confusion, let’s pray from them*
Yes, then they'll understand, right?
You can pray for them. I'll think for you
@@maccusmc damn
Prayer wirh action, faith with fruits.
who is this kid in the blue shirt??
Wow! That was a good conversation with those young men! Keep the good battle. BTW the Bible does mention dinosaurs. It doesn’t use the word “dinosaur” because that word was invented after the Bible was written. In Genesis it says that God created the great sea monsters. Also in the book of Job it talks about Leviathan and Behemoth which were probably dinos.
And goes even deeper than that wellstone let's try to tell people that are enjoying the flood all the time this was completely Perish we have lizards and other things.
When the flood came it wiped out most of the great beasts. The Bible does also speak of Nephilim which were corrupt. So the flood may have served to rid the world of the corrupted beasts (dinosaur?) in addition to the people who were judged refused to believe in God and continue in their sin and evil.
Hey Cliff awesome work..just wanted to point out that the word "image" is a pretty poor English word to capture the Hebrew idea. A better word is AMBASSADOR. Peace and blessings
All I get from this video is how youth is the dum&est period of a person's life. hahahahahah the kid thinks he knows yet he knows nothing. so many fallacies built into his reasoning. science can not explain philosophical questions.
I admire this man's patience, Ihave no time for i&iotic kids.
Every soul can be a future brother or sister. Remember that when judging their lost state
A head of lettuce doesn't have a nervous system, it can't suffer. If it could suffer, then we might have ethical obligations to it, as humanists believe we have towards each other, and as animal rights activists believe we have towards animals. The underlying principle is the capacity to experience.
"I would never want" ≠ sound argument or good reasons. *BONNIE* is all about "preferences", but when other folks don't share his "preferences" he thinks they are wrong-even though he also claims that it is all subjective. He believes that the objective truth is that all beliefs about morality are subjective-even though he also believes that some things really are wrong-even though he claims he doesn't... _Ya follow?_ Neither does he! But the alternative is the Jesus of the Bible, and Bonnie isn't willing to go there, so he keeps repeating nonsense... _Don't believe me?_ He should be here any minute now-eager as ever to run in more circles. Just wait... He's coming... Him and the rest of the resident trolls who have been suffering withdrawl since Cliffe didn't post a video last week. 😉🙃
You've completely misrepresented my views on morality Jesse, I'll be happy to go through it with you step by step, so you hear it from the horses mouth so to speak. Do you accept that we all have personal unique thoughts.. no 2 people have identical thoughts.. can we at the very least agree on that?
Jesse Bryant couldn't comprehend an opposing argument if you were to talk to him like an infant.
1) Yes...Jesse...Bonnie has a moral compass and believes that there are morals that are good and bad depending on his experiences, how he was raised, the culture he is from, the parents who raised him, and the society he lives in.
2) However, he knows that not every culture, society, race, or individual, will agree with his own personal moral code. That's why it is subjective and not objective.
3) Example - Bonnie might believe that it is morally wrong to kill another person, ever; whereas, I believe, that it is morally acceptable to end the life of anyone who is so base in thinking and barbaric, that they are a dreg, to everyone they come across.
4) In your comment you basically said that because Bonnie doesn't ape your moral views; then, he is not allowed to have a moral code. You are the epitome of ignorance and Christians deserve to have you on their side.
5) Everytime Cliff uploads a video you are the first person to call out Bonnie with lies and innuendos, and then, you chastise him when he answers your initial invitation.
6) You actually think that "Subjective Morality" means that someone is void of morals. Are you that scurvy.? It's a wonder, cancer polyps don't drop off of you, as you're walking down the street.
@@jackalsgate1146
@Jesse Bryant
You are completely misconstruing the misunderstanding at the same time but he is talking about different but because of your own subjective thinking you don't care pension to his objective credit and no I'm not playing working with you or being quite serious.
@@jackalsgate1146 Excellently stated JG. It's also worth pointing out that we're capable of adjusting our moral views when we're shown an alternative that appears to have more benefits than drawbacks for society as a whole.. we use our own unique subjective thought process to weigh up the pro's and cons of a given action, and make a judgment on the alternative. It's very much situational and based on what we observe. Rather than taking our moral codes from an ancient book which may well have suited ancient societies and worked for them... we humans are pretty good at figuring out better ways to treat one another.
Some countries are well behind current moral thinking eg: in Saudi Arabia they still chop people's hands off for stealing, whereas other countries are catching up fast, in Spain, bullfighting is very much frowned upon by much of their society now.. torturing a bull isn't seen as such a noble sport nowadays. The tide is turning.
The resident trolls have arrived! Right on Q! And Bonnie is lying... Again! ... Just like always. But as predicted, he would be more than happy to run around in circles... AGAIN! For God knows how many more days! Uhm... No. (Proverbs 1:22, 14:7, 18:2, 26:12, 29:9)
There's several animals that can produce asexually when absent of mate
People make up their own gospel or make science their gospel. According to the scriptures Jesus Christ is far greater than man-MLK, Gondi and Adam because He is God and was a perfect man that’s the difference. People deny God’s power because of “interpretation” they deny the Holy Spirit. GOD is far greater than man because He is GOD the Almighty, He’s infinite we’re finite.
Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Anen, Amen, Again.
Amen
Man these guys these young guys are just really often they’re thinking.
10:06 Surprising how u can want so much proof but yet boldly proclaim an idea that has no prooof 🧐. Seems people find anything but Jesus more attractive. People will even say we live in a simulation that had no proof.
(John 3:19) "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. (20) Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed."
AMEN.
"Slaves to their sin."
@@jeffreystewart7062 truth.
@@jeffreystewart7062 it's amazing how the Bible, written so long ago has so many truths. Amazing.
25:00 Genesis 1:26 Greek root is Strong's H6754 - ṣelem. It’s a phantom/ghost or actual image
I did NOT come from a plant
Burst out laughing when he said they're currently trying to figure out if a rock has consciousness
First kid is so confused. Who teaches them this stuff.
Their professors sadly..
My head explodes when i listen to these, "skulls for a mush" try to debate with Cliffs logic.
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven amen 🙏🏾 John 14:6 amen 🙏🏾
God is Good my brother
Amen.
@@GraftedOliveBranch God wants a relationship with you amen 🙏🏾
@@thunderx3005
That is exactly why I *do* have a relationship with him. 😁
@@GraftedOliveBranch Glad to know brotha keep it up stay strong in Christ and never forget 🙏🏾 Exodus 14:14 🙏🏾
Cliffe is the best !
Mr Consciousness is funny as hill to philosophical for his own good🤦🏾
That college student was articulate, and on point.
Not at all haha
@@avoid222 guess your too programmed to know
@@lightworker4512 nah you’re just deceived by the enemy into thinking you have some type of power. When in reality you can’t create anything or do anything to change the laws of reality
@@avoid222 we are all creators in this material world. For example, I created my family, my profession as a physician and surgeon (recently retired), a business, a better life for all the people I helped over 40 years, et. There are laws of this reality but we can and do co-create our reality as the Divine Spirit is within all of humanity. Unfortunately, most people have a very limited consciousness and are programmed to believe that you have to be Christian to be saved. As a physician, I would not follow let alone believe in a God that would send nonbelievers to eternal Hell.
Original sin is simply separation of our Divine eternal soul (light) and our human mind/ego. Darkness cannot enter light, our souls are eternal and do not go to hell
@@avoid222 understand too, we are not truly separate from the Creator but part of the Creator. How could we not be? Just as our children share our DNA, we share the Divine energy of the Creator. Man made religion has perverted God, hence the Chaos and suffering that continues.
What are these college professors teaching these students in these colleges scary times we are living.
I still don't see why the experience of Love, Justice, Freedom points to anything beyond our experience of them.
The apologist wishes to suggest these things point to a transcendent world..a ladder of being where theses values exist eternally.
It's interesting to think about..but I'm not sure he made a case for it
Because evil wins too often in this life, if there is no God or a heaven then justice is a personal prejudice.
KJV Psalms 27:11-14
11 Teach me thy way, O LORD, and lead me in a plain path, because of mine enemies.
12 Deliver me not over unto the will of mine enemies: for false witnesses are risen up against me, and such as breathe out cruelty.
13 I had fainted, unless I had believed to see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living.
14 Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD.
He finally answered the dinosaur question. Yes
15:05 I would never hurt another human because we are in the same species, maybe not you but what about people who do hurt others, murder, rape, stealing, cheating, rape, war, selfishness, greed, physopath, and all the evil in the world
I believe I strained my mind so hard trying to grasp what that guy in the blue shirt was saying, I gave myself a headache
This is what a fool looks like while wearing a backpack.
Is recorded history like the whispering game "telephone"? It's said there's no dumb questions but what about when a kid gets the question itself wrong? These conversations often start with false questions being asked wasting lots of time.
@@godislove363
I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt... and ask him what the question should have been. That might enable a conversation to develop. _Don't you think?_ 😉
I apologize I deleted my answer from hours ago because when I read your comments again this morning I realized I was wrong for speeding, I was very tired when I typed it so please forgive me.
@@jessebryant9233 I already corrected myself Jesse thank you I saw your comment after I corrected myself but I was quite tired last night and I saw his comment wrong so I fixed it by deleting it and then apologizing. Atheist on here Christians who really are Christians would do the right thing as I did I'm like the atheist usually don't.
@Eo's moonlight 🌙 Amen, and yes, God Loves You.
For a second I thought that the guy in the blue shirt would have something interesting to say about his study of history or science, but then he just started making up the lore for his own fantasy novel.
🤭 he said it himself, he's god were god, everything is god, so do what you want and party till you die!
These kids aren’t a lost cause though, God can straighten them out, though it might be painful and humbling to get them in the right place.
The man in the blue shirt is going places!
Going straight to hell by thinking he is god.
@@JohnjOcampogosh! You’re a positive chap
@@starlalaurenrose and you are one confused man pretending to be a woman, aren't you intune with reality.. lol.
@@starlalaurenrose i don't know about that but atleast i am in tune with reality.
@@JohnjOcampoI’d rather be positive, kind, accept people have different upbringings and beliefs, I’m not religious in the slightest but I still have religious friends and I accept them for who they are, as long as they are kind. If I was religious, I certainly wouldn’t consider for a moment that I would get into heaven by judging complete strangers, I read the bible many years ago, Jesus was very accepting so I’m not sure if y’all make up your own rules to fit your own idea of heaven or not, because cruelty is at the bottom of the pile.
That was a whole lot of word salad coming out of that kid
One is murder two aren’t, and the other two go great in between sesame seed buns.
“You don’t see lettuce chopping each other down”
well...
When i opened the fridge, the Cabbage said "Lettuce alone, close the door, the salad's dressing"
God has made it so simple that lots of folk will not get it . If we don’t believe the truth we will believe the lies Which there are many . Debates , debates don’t achieve much but maybe a little seed will be sown .
the rock has human DNA, he said we are made of the same material….
UNFREEKNBULEEVABL
We actually don’t know if it was written in the first century.
"I may lack proper education in science, but look at how i prance around and pretend to be smart (like some uber street corner preacher) while i talk about my imaginary invisible deity who obviously has super powers, duh.."
That second guy was … strange… just so horribly influenced and corrupted
To the second guy: So... it sounds like you're in a cult.
If the young man in the end you were talking to every becomes a believer, he would bring 1000’s to know Christ.
Oh my Word! People trying to outsmart themselves just to prove how foolish they are!!!
All I hear from blue t shirt guy:waffle waffle waffle
What was he even talking about?... such delusions being combined with such confidence always amazes me.
It's mind blowing how these kids, who think they're so smart because they've enrolled in college, find it so hard to believe in Jesus but yet they'll believe that rocks have a conscience 🤔
So many kids raised without Jesus Christ.