Despite the results of the tests, just looking at the damage of the barrage in the footage you can see that each barrage hit does ~198 with the 113mm vs ~189 with the 76mm. Their reloads should be identical despite what it says on the reload screen but the 113 could be slower depending on device performance. Assuming the cooldowns are exactly the same, then the 113 would deal 5% more DPS, which would probably translate to
I think that the results pretty much speak for themselves. If she has roughly equal dps when using a barrage spam gun as a gun that does actually good dps, that says how much her barrages carries her dps despite the fact that she already has a decent kit for a gunboat DD on her own. Also, another point is that since pretty much almost all her barrages are aimed means that she wastes very little of her maximum potential barrage dps most of the time, except for maybe the torps
@@ryanchen8403 ngl I rly like ships like her that get most of their damage from barrages same reason I was also a huge scylla fan super cheap to set up so no need to burn gold plates
Lol I've been hemming and hawing over whether to use the twin 100m or the single 113mm on her since I got her to 125. Thanks for this vid; us AL fans have been eating real good with your content lately
I chose the wrong UR to max LB right away, smh. Thank you for the video, we've been spoiled for quality AL content, despite the fact it feels like AL is running out of steam abit. Here's hoping the new year brings about some banger events.
Pls do tell which one ur max LB, im considering z52 rn instead of Fritz Rumey since i have just enough for either of them (new player so very limited resources)
@sloppyfadge2029 Well, both are honestly pretty solid options, do you have another UR main fleet ship? Or does your vanguard take alot of damage more often than the main fleet? Z52 is by no means a tank, but she'll definitely help out, but if you don't have another UR main fleet ship, you might be better served focusing on the CV first, the main fleet typically does more sustained damage. It's definitely worth focusing one and not spreading resources out, for sure.
Yeah, that 138 is usually better for dds that have 2 main guns on top buffing their own FP or helping out with barrages (DDG being the obvious example) For her, using the singles or twin 100 will give similar results since their reloads are relatively similar, and their damage against the medium is practically insignificant. Though the only advantage is the 100 having better damage for light but it still isnt significant to say it outperforms the single options considering her main dps comes from her barrages spamming and having lovk on+penetration.
well that's quite a surprise to see the single 76mm outperform the single 113mm tho I will probably still stick to the single 113mm for that extra range 😂 anyways thanks for taking the time testing this
@JimmyAL true guess it's up to preference I kinda like the added consistency the bonus range provides also tried her in pvp kinda funny to see her barrage track the enemy main fleet at times 😂
Ok so something I noticed. . . When she equips the Single 138 (first one), she fires her barrage after 5 shots. There aint no way her barrage drops to 5 shots after shes maxed out right? Am i missing something? Edit: also noticed . Faster fire rates means she triggers more of the healing passives as well from thunderbrand stacks. Constant debuff refreshes, team wide healing triggers , etc. She feels a lot tankier as well when she has fast fire rate due to this
The event is over, and I STILL cant believe how good Z52's kit is... Shield-penetrating AIMED barrage on fire, cross fleet timed barrage, damage reduction, self-heal, lowest-hp ship heal, damage debuff, slash, great torps, AA and ASW, the flagship cover... with a BLUE gun equipped! Well, now I am a little pissed it doesnt have a slow, but I will still use her, since she was FREE lol
Yes. The single 113 is not used for its own damage, just for spamming barrages. +13-ing it won't do anything but give Z52 +3% more damage in OpSi (negligible)
@@hassathunter2464 that's +18% more damage on a 13 base damage shell (the gun's actual damage) every 0.6 seconds that doesn't penetrate shields. With 5° spread and poor mods. For reference, the twin 100 does 48 base damage every 0.9 ish seconds with better mods and no spread. Whatever improvement that gives is negligible, considering the single 113 and the blue 76 already ties in the video's (relatively small) sample size. Again, the single 113 and the blue 76 are not guns you equip for the damage, it's for the barrage spam.
Yes, unless all your other guns are already +13. Barrage spam guns last priority for plates.
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TLDW; pick the 76mm or 113mm. Anything that lets her trigger her barrage as much as possible. Leave all the statistics bullshit about data variance for the wiki.
i have agir and hinderburg as frontline but still Z52 manages to go at the back its funny. in theory and practicality low reload and low damage is better for barrage type dps and high reload and high damage for main gun dps
Dang I had a feeling, I used my +13 single 113mm when levelling her and swapped to my +10 twin 100mm and found out she wasn't actually doing more damage at all, crazy how I even got lower numbers sometimes too. I guess I'll swap to the blue barrage gun then. xD Thanks for the testing.
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Despite the results of the tests, just looking at the damage of the barrage in the footage you can see that each barrage hit does ~198 with the 113mm vs ~189 with the 76mm. Their reloads should be identical despite what it says on the reload screen but the 113 could be slower depending on device performance. Assuming the cooldowns are exactly the same, then the 113 would deal 5% more DPS, which would probably translate to
This is far better than getting drunk at a party, thanks Jimmy.
they don't know im z52maxxin
I think that the results pretty much speak for themselves. If she has roughly equal dps when using a barrage spam gun as a gun that does actually good dps, that says how much her barrages carries her dps despite the fact that she already has a decent kit for a gunboat DD on her own. Also, another point is that since pretty much almost all her barrages are aimed means that she wastes very little of her maximum potential barrage dps most of the time, except for maybe the torps
@@ryanchen8403 ngl I rly like ships like her that get most of their damage from barrages same reason I was also a huge scylla fan super cheap to set up so no need to burn gold plates
The test no one asked for, but everyone needed
Lol I've been hemming and hawing over whether to use the twin 100m or the single 113mm on her since I got her to 125. Thanks for this vid; us AL fans have been eating real good with your content lately
I chose the wrong UR to max LB right away, smh. Thank you for the video, we've been spoiled for quality AL content, despite the fact it feels like AL is running out of steam abit. Here's hoping the new year brings about some banger events.
Pls do tell which one ur max LB, im considering z52 rn instead of Fritz Rumey since i have just enough for either of them (new player so very limited resources)
@sloppyfadge2029 Well, both are honestly pretty solid options, do you have another UR main fleet ship? Or does your vanguard take alot of damage more often than the main fleet?
Z52 is by no means a tank, but she'll definitely help out, but if you don't have another UR main fleet ship, you might be better served focusing on the CV first, the main fleet typically does more sustained damage. It's definitely worth focusing one and not spreading resources out, for sure.
cool ig im goi g z52 since i have hood for backline
Yeah, that 138 is usually better for dds that have 2 main guns on top buffing their own FP or helping out with barrages (DDG being the obvious example)
For her, using the singles or twin 100 will give similar results since their reloads are relatively similar, and their damage against the medium is practically insignificant. Though the only advantage is the 100 having better damage for light but it still isnt significant to say it outperforms the single options considering her main dps comes from her barrages spamming and having lovk on+penetration.
well that's quite a surprise to see the single 76mm outperform the single 113mm tho I will probably still stick to the single 113mm for that extra range 😂
anyways thanks for taking the time testing this
not outperform, just such little difference that either can easily win in a random battle
@JimmyAL true guess it's up to preference I kinda like the added consistency the bonus range provides also tried her in pvp kinda funny to see her barrage track the enemy main fleet at times 😂
I prefer the single 113 because it has 13 more fp and 20 aa
Do you have the gold plates to +13 the 113mm for science?
the 113 is mainly used for low reload, going past +10 on it doesn't improve the reload anymore so you might as well just keep it +10
I'm going to assume that +13 single 113 is even a bit better than the +7 76. Not worth testing probably but just to note.
Better in a 100,100 damage vs 100,000 damage kind of sense, not in a sense that it changes the outcome of any battle
Should I keep the other z52 from exchange shop so i have 2 or just use her as a fodder for the 1st one?
whatever you want
dupes are for homosexuals
Ok so something I noticed. . . When she equips the Single 138 (first one), she fires her barrage after 5 shots. There aint no way her barrage drops to 5 shots after shes maxed out right? Am i missing something?
Edit: also noticed . Faster fire rates means she triggers more of the healing passives as well from thunderbrand stacks. Constant debuff refreshes, team wide healing triggers , etc. She feels a lot tankier as well when she has fast fire rate due to this
The event is over, and I STILL cant believe how good Z52's kit is... Shield-penetrating AIMED barrage on fire, cross fleet timed barrage, damage reduction, self-heal, lowest-hp ship heal, damage debuff, slash, great torps, AA and ASW, the flagship cover... with a BLUE gun equipped! Well, now I am a little pissed it doesnt have a slow, but I will still use her, since she was FREE lol
i mean why slow when she has auto seeking barrage lol
She sure was one hell of a Christmas present, i saved both copies and used her to clear W15.
@@hazimtasim2586it's a team thing. slows generally help airstrikes and salvoes.
@@rayoscrost im a faction fleet player so i have aegir n UvH so yeah no problem for me and also Fritz slows too
@hazimtasim2586 point stands.
is going +13 on a 113mm a waste?
Yes. The single 113 is not used for its own damage, just for spamming barrages. +13-ing it won't do anything but give Z52 +3% more damage in OpSi (negligible)
@@MindayKalana thank you my friend
@@MindayKalana +18% damage is nothing?
@@hassathunter2464 that's +18% more damage on a 13 base damage shell (the gun's actual damage) every 0.6 seconds that doesn't penetrate shields. With 5° spread and poor mods. For reference, the twin 100 does 48 base damage every 0.9 ish seconds with better mods and no spread.
Whatever improvement that gives is negligible, considering the single 113 and the blue 76 already ties in the video's (relatively small) sample size. Again, the single 113 and the blue 76 are not guns you equip for the damage, it's for the barrage spam.
Yes, unless all your other guns are already +13. Barrage spam guns last priority for plates.
TLDW; pick the 76mm or 113mm. Anything that lets her trigger her barrage as much as possible. Leave all the statistics bullshit about data variance for the wiki.
Sounds about right. Just use the cheaper option if you are poor
i have agir and hinderburg as frontline but still Z52 manages to go at the back its funny. in theory and practicality low reload and low damage is better for barrage type dps and high reload and high damage for main gun dps
I almost had it... Guess i'll wait another December.
Dang I had a feeling, I used my +13 single 113mm when levelling her and swapped to my +10 twin 100mm and found out she wasn't actually doing more damage at all, crazy how I even got lower numbers sometimes too.
I guess I'll swap to the blue barrage gun then. xD
Thanks for the testing.
Wait wait her barrage homes in on enemies?
Yup. It's insane.
the dmg mods is 100/100/100 its insane too
I immediately max LB'd her first and Rumey not long after... she is my bew favorite UR... WELL tired with hindenburg for me waifu wise
Always nice to get to use a blue gun and save resources