13:38 "Her mom then said her actions were terrible but were not significant enough to end a great marriage and break up a beautiful family" Did anyone else feel rage at this statement?
Not a significant problem to her! The expenses and the responsibility of father and husband are not hers! She just doesn’t want her stupid daughter to move back in! 😂
Many women do not view cheating the same way as men. If you ewad enough if these stories you learn that women don't have a sense of honour and that they don't fall in love the way that guys do.
Try finding out after 35 years, the kids are not yours! The kids, all three took DNA tests and found out they all have different fathers! My wife had been committing adultery our whole marriage and passed the kids off as mine! DNA tests must be done at birth! It needs to be the law!
She already knew what would happen in court if he divorced her. That he would be paying child support for her bastard kid. These women are not idiots when it comes to family law.
Every marriage license should have a LIABILITY WARNING in large print, in bright letters, stating the consequences to the Husband if the wife has some one elses child, and they Divorce !
The actual father doesn’t have enough money to support his own child!?!? WTF Perhaps he should keep his dick in his pants! Why should her husband have to pay because he can’t ? What a stupid fucking law!
$20 says her mother was a cheater. Honesty, I think an interview with a family law attorney before getting married would open the eyes of many blue pilled men.
If the courts really cared about kids, men would not have to fight tooth and nail for custody and visitation and courts would not give kids back to women who are terrible mothers.
After reading all these paternity fraud, the next girl I meet, they will know our front as my requirements for being together, paternity test for any potential birth
@@johnpauljones9310 LOL! Like that would ever happen. Women get 8 years for 2nd degree murder. Do you really think any judge in the country would give more than twice that for fraud (of ANY kind)? It's a great dream but that's about all it is.
There is no incentive for the government to do it as paternity test only indicate that man is not the father but it dons’t indicate who is. In the end state and federal government prefer not to spend money on such children when there is a perfectly viable husband that was cheated upon, let’s just insult him further with child support. Problem is solved.
so not only is he forced to pay support for a kid that isn't his, he doesn't even get main custody of his own children? why does she get custody when she has no assets? best interest of the children is for this man to have full custody of his own kids.
The courts give the mother full custody, child support, alimony and the house, 90 % of the time. The father loses everything. Go ask 50 divorced fathers.
It’s really simple guys, MARRY AT YOUR OWN RISK! if you’re smart, you’d see that it’s not worth it to ever ever ever do this crap! Wise men learn from the mistakes of others, not just their own.
Another disgusting result. But after the damage was done, I'd never think about marriage again. As the saying goes, "She's not yours. It's just your turn."
She did all that just for validation..I don't understand women that are married.. Not only are cheating on your husband but you having unprotected sex with someone you just meet makes no sense at all..
Sadly, OP got a better divorce judgement than most of us will ever get. Especially, if you don’t have the monetary resources to battle it out in Court, which can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Worth money to fight to get your name off the birth certificate. Divorce at least and never help raise a child that is not yours if your divorced. Worth being broke paying lawyers to not have to be with a cheater every day. Been there!
Seriously. even legal minds are not at play here. DNA all the children! I lost the jest of this story when the judge awarded him the house and the kids are not going to live there and he lost full custody. I’m baffled! It’s hard to comprehend what happened behind the scenes.
This good man having to go through all this stressful stuff just because his nasty cheating wife didn't want HIS validation is far beyond disgusting. He remains a good man. She destroyed the family. He rebuilt it without her. Ironic, the betraying ex-wife chose nursing as her self-provision. Lots of cheaters there. I am glad he prays to The Lord. May he, his current wife, and those 6 children have a blessed and thankful life and an intact family!
This guy deserve it, for trying to stay with her when he found out. Also, regarding the "best" interest of the child. Who is to know that the mother will be spending the child support money on the children? At least, make the person receiving child support show proof, like receipts, being spent on the children.
< At least, make the person receiving child support show proof,> LOL, true...kanye west pay lots of money to cardassian for child support. But...court too lazy to do that. Dont wanna waste tax money for that. Need that tax money for other more important thing...like paying the MIC.
One state (Ohio?) may be enacting the use of child support debit cards. It will restrict what you can buy with it, that is, no adult clothes, no booze..ect. Great idea!
No he didn't deserve any of this. He didn't do the cheating, she did, and all subsequent problems come from her actions, not his. So don't blame the victim here. He handled an unimaginable situation as best he could.
@@jimmyboy131 When people say these stories are fake, but people like you comment. It re-affirms there are real people like that out in the world. Thank you!
OBTW: it could be worse as in the case of Haddix versus California he was forced to pay for kids that biologically were not his, but the kicker was he was stripped of any visitation and custodial rights to those kids even though he had raised them for 3456 years, but was still ordered to pay until they were 18 years old.
Awesome system we have isn’t it? Anyone can get pregnant, have a baby in the hospital, and be sent home without a care in the world who the father is. He doesn’t even have to show up there. Get the government involved and suddenly all this criteria has to be met by some man (any man at all apparently) and that’s who they stick the bill to. And you damn sure better pay it. Or else!
The attorney explained very clearly what to do. I would make sure her family knows about it. I definitely file to remove last name even if I still have to pay. By the way 12 years old and kids decided where to live. Not the court.
How many times have we heard this excuse that she wanted to see if other men found her attractive. If it is her true motive then she is in a state of illusion. Plus it does not explain why after someone expressed attraction that she met them and then had unprotected sex. Makes no sense. What is wrong with people these days.
Attention (specifically, outside attention) is the modern woman's currency. It's worth more to them than dollars, pounds, euro, yen, or yuan. Why do you think even unattractive, morbidly obese women still have active Instagram pages? You can tell your wife she's beautiful every single day and she'll dismiss it. But let some dude in Wal-Mart tell her that and she's walking on air for the rest of the day. (I was going to say a male co-worker but we all know that's SA/SH nowadays so no man with two brain cells would do that at work)
At the very least, OP should have had standing to bring the civil action against the biological father since he had standing, because of the financial burden that he was stuck with. The fact that only the "mother" is allowed to sue is sexual discrimination, which is outlawed by the 1964 Civil Rights Act, among other laws.
That is incorrect. The OP does not have standing because, by state law, he IS the father of Seth for legal purposes. Thus, he has no "financial burden" any more than he has for the 3 that are his. The mother is the one who can go after the biodad because, in this instance, she is the aggrieved party. (When these laws were written, women cared about their reputation and wouldn't want it besmirched by being the mother of a bastard. So they'd sue the biodad for acknowledgement to protect their own standing.) The main problem is, many of these laws were written in two different societal ages. Women don't care about their reputations anymore, so many of these laws are badly out of date.
The common theme in all these videos is doing the right thing. I wish these were available when I was going through my relationships. I guess it is never too late to learn though.
Married and divorced once. No infidelity but grew apart. That being said, I will NEVER get married again. It's been 18 years divorced and I really like my life now as opposed to then. Marriage is a lose lose for men.
If the judge does care about what's best for the child. The court would award OP primary custody with zero child support and alimony. She can go out into the world and work for herself.
I'd spend the rest of my life on the bum before I'd be forced to pay like this. Prison? Fine. It won't get you anymore money. You'd have to kill me first. Never never never. Join the carnival, be a beachcomber, black market entrepreneur, jailbird. Literally anything but this.
The game is rigged. The only way to win is not to play. BTW, in Michigan the court AUTOMATICALLY assigns paternity to the father with more financial resources -- even if the biological father wants to pay child support or even to adopt the child. There is absolutely no way around this law.
I'd sue her for paternity fraud every single month, for Seth's portion of the child support, until she withdraws the claim. If she withdraws the claim, I would still continue to make Seth's child support payments VOLUNTARILY. I refuse to be forced to take the roll of a father to someone that is not mine, at the point of a gun.
Paternity laws need to change, this is ridiculous. “The best interest of the child” it’s just a pretext because the state takes a cut of the child support payments, so the more money they can extort from the “Father” they will. An argument could be made that it’s in the best interest of the child to know who their real father is. The state should then garnish his wage, no question. There’s no reason the biological father should be able to skate on child support just because he was able to fly under the radar for two years.
If my wife pulled that shit, I would not have a damn thing to do with her or ever speak one word to her again. It isn't the faul of Seth what her mother and bio father did but still, I would not take care of the kid. I would refuse to pay anything no matter what the court said. The biofather needs to be held accountable ...
the next thing is, why do people not have a jury hearing for this. Juries can nullify any law. all it takes in one jurur to call bullshit on the law and get it NULLIFIED.....
OP said he and wife were half-Italian. I would spend another $950 to hire some big strong scary ex-cons named Rocco and Knuckles to convince the real father to come forward to the court if he values his kneecaps and hands.
You would still pay regardless. Let me put it to you like this : if you don't pay and go to jail, your 3 real kids would be screwed. No father and a former stay at home mother to support them. Would you hurt your kids just to spit their mother?
@@danielcody7568 Bob works a minimum wage job and he can barely support himself. Even if he came forward as Seth's bio dad, the courts would reject his claim because of his financial situation.
Exactly right! I wouldn’t have anything to do with the ex wife or pay a dime for a child that wasn’t mine in that situation. The court can choose if my three biological children get taken care of or not but I would be clear about disappearing for good if forced to pay for a child my wife had with another man when we were married and lied to me about it.
Always nice to hear more about that male privilege at work, keeping a man on the hook to pay for a child that ain't his and for a woman who lied to him and that he doesn't want 👍
Damn i just think it is crazy how the judge gave his wife that safety line by awarding her 51% custody. She basically gave the ex alimony through child support.... i will never understand the idea of giving the kids to the mother even though the father is the financially stable parent
I also don't understand how they think the mother should get the children when she's the one who is morally depraved. Do they want to raise a society of sociopaths?
Women like Amber can justify their affairs by convincing themselves they're NOT going to leave their husband for any of their affair partners. They have this sense of entitlement that they should be able to "have their cake and eat it too". The flip side: If their husbands do the same and justify that they don't plan on leaving, they have a meltdown and call him every horrible name in the book. She purposely had this affair with Bob, because he's not a high-value man, and couldn't support a child if she got pregnant. That, right there, gives her an EXCUSE not to leave Erik for him. Why she didn't get an abortion, I don't know. I'm gonna also guess that Bob is not "in-shape", and that makes her feel more comfortable, due to her own weight issues. When it comes to receiving compliments, we ALL value compliments from strangers higher than from loved ones. It's a normal thing, but to take it to the level of betrayal, that's not cool. This is why guys need to keep themselves in-shape. The one thing that makes a woman GAIN ATTRACTION to her long-term partner is ANOTHER WOMAN giving her man attention. This makes the "cat claws" come out,. and makes a woman think hard if she's missing some great thing about her man. It also makes her realize her man can replace her with another woman. That, right there, will keep her in-check. I feel bad for this guy. The courts AND his ex-wife all agree he'd be a better father for Seth. It's no wonder Amber tried to get him back for 4 years, until he met Jill. You'd think Amber would lose weight and try to be more appealing, in this case, but no, she'd rather just continue on her current weight-gain path. The gal ending up becoming a "hippo" is a common factor in many of these stories. Karma...
"The one thing that makes a woman GAIN ATTRACTION to her long-term partner is ANOTHER WOMAN giving her man attention." That's called preselection and is absolute gospel. Also, a man with options is more attractive to women than one without.
@@Remianen yup! That's why I always recommend not only meeting, but beating her bedroom expectations. Additionally, making friends with all of her friends, knowing she brags about your bedroom slills to them.
Overweight, divorced mother of 4, youngest is a result of adultery, living off ex’s child support, a good portion to a kid that isn’t even his! Yeah, if I were a guy, I wouldn’t take her seriously either.
The only different thing I would do were I this man would be to tell Bob that if he ever tried to become involved in MY son's life, I'd end him. As for Amber, I would have never forgiven her, and would take a great deal of joy in how she's let herself go, and how her prospects are so low, and rub it into her. She committed the ultimate evil against her husband and should be made to suffer for the rest of her life.
This "NEED" for attention is the real cause of many problems. Many woman do not learn that getting attention from out side t boost the ego is like taking serious drugs. It is as much dangerous. Often this need for attentiona and validation lead to cheating. It starts similary with it starts with drugs.
Run? That’s stupid to say the least. Divorce? Of course. Being away from a cheater and not raising a baby that’s not your even if you are poor for years. You can always make your life better. Some states allow you to get your name off the birth certificate. Whatever do not stay with a backstabbing cheater. Running or hiding only makes you look worse and you can end up in prison for non payment. Not right but do it the least harmful way. AND DO NOT HELP RAISE A CHILD NOT YOURS EVEN IF YOU ARE STUCK WITH CHILD SUPPORT.
@@humansvd3269 I understand you now. I had to run from one but we had 2 sons so had to still put up with her presence for the next 12 years. And years later remarried and doing well mostly lol for 36 years now. But much, much better
@@humansvd3269 I was a simp and tried therapy and marriage counseling. Never worked. I needed Reddit and SSM but didn’t have during my time. Mad? I tricked her into seeing the head phycologist for the state. My wife told her she could do what she wanted with other men. Not lying 20 minutes later a deputy Sheriff was taking her 100 miles away to a psychiatric hospital. Yep she blew her top! Stayed there 3 months and I filed for divorce while she was there so they could handle her. When out she still got a50/50 custody split.
I would say the key point you should be making to guys's whether they are married or not do not sign the birth certificate unless you have confirmed via DNA that you are the biological father of the child. My opinion is I do not believe the court could hold you liable if you have not signed the birth certificate. I'm not a lawyer your mileage may vary
Doesn't matter in most countries if the woman says you are the father, the courts will believe her and you will still be forced to pay or go to prison, if you are married you are automaticaly considered as father even if you are not able to have children.
Doesn't matter. Most states are like here in Texas, if you are married you don't have to sign the birth certificate just being married defaults you as the father. It's why you shouldn't get married and why you should have your partner as a tennent so you can claim renter and avoid the common law marriage clauses.
@thumbnail DUde...why call it disrespectful? Call it what it is, a betrayal. How is betrayal a mere disrespect? I mean...say a guy betray his country...would the judge call his behaviour disrespectful? No friggin way. Hed be called betrayer, oathbreaker, commiting mortal Sin, etc etc etc. What she did wasnt being disrespectful. Its a betrayal, she break her vow. She break her oath under God. Shes vow breaker, oath breaker, betrayer, she break the 10 commandments (several of them), she commit mortal Sin, she indulge in Seven Deadly Sin. Call it what it is. Call a turd stinky. Why do u guys lower down the usage of language on the sin that she commit? Geez....grow up some spine. Call a turd a turd. This is the mindset that put Men in weak position with the court, with the Law. Its like saying...hey, a guy killed a dude's father. Now the dude has to pay for the guy's medical expenses. But wait, one is murder, one is cheating (n lying/bearing false witness), how is it the same? Well, its the same sin under 10 commandments. It is a Sin because it deprive the cheated husband of his life prosperity. Cheating wife and AP knowingly/unknowingly steal Husband's life. If one unknowingly cause the death of another through neglect, its called manslaughter. Now, cheating wife and AP steal husband's wealth....they scam him to unknowingly pay for children not of his own. Geez...at least japan has the guts to let the husband sue both the wife and AP.... Edit: thank u for changing the thumbnail to "ultimate betrayal"
I have a hard time understanding what a woman says I am sorry for having another man's baby and then wants you to raise the child as if it was his only child. As a person that has worked in construction when the temperature is 110 degrees, there is no way I would stay with her and it would affect my relationship with the child. The biological father should pay once it is proven that he is the child's father. The law needs to change.
The best for the child is the biological father has to take care of the child. Not to force someone else to pay child support, it is a paternity fraud.
MANDATORY DNA, before she leaves the hospital!! Should be part of the APGAR score . . . . before the baby even leaves the delivery room for the nursery. Tiny toe prick, or perhaps cord blood. Do the test, clean the baby off, wrap the baby up, and give him or her to mom or dad. Test comes back, dad is pulled aside, and told what’s what. PERIOD, the end.
Why the law doesn't care about the biological father of a cheating wife's affairs and punished the husband of the cheating wife to raise someone else's child? Isn't this a paternity frauds?
I'd make it clear to the judge, I'm not going to be in the bastard's life. I would not raise it, I would not be involved with it. it's not my kid, and I am being forced to take care of it by unfair laws.
Sad the OP had to pay the child support but notice how he accepted it. He had no animosity toward the son. This folks is what good men do... They always do the right thing even though they're given a 💩 sandwich. Good he recovered. Again always watch for the red flags....
The law is crap and I am shocked in this day and age we have such backwards laws. Shows that first world countries need to get their acts together. Also if she had even half a brain she would have terminated the pregnancy, but if she had half a brain she would not have cheated in the first place.
I think the bio father should be forced to pay child support for that child. But who even knows if that child is the AP's. Did they force him to do a paternity test? If she cheated once she probably cheated with others. I enjoy your site BTW.
The State also takes a percentage of child support payments, so the judiciary are absolutely incentivised to make men pay for kids that are not their's, because their employer profits from it.
States that enforce unjust laws like that should at least allow double the tax deduction for child support for non-biological children that weren't adopted.
A man is just a meal ticket. That is how women see us, that is the same way the court system sees us. So if you find a loyal women you are very lucky .
I think the guy is an authentic man as he stood up and did the best he could with the hand he was dealt and he did the best for everyone involved. The kids are healthier for it and he went on to find a good woman and had more kids. He could have chosen anger and resentment and destructive behaviors and that would have destroyed everyone involved. I think this demonstrates how important good strong men are for raising children and for our society as a whole.
Agreed! Guy is a total cuck but still thinks he did the right thing and will be praised for “stepping up” by other weak men and 304s. I have only contempt for such weakness.
It is so sad that the court makes him continue to pay child support for a child that is not his child, proven with a DNA test. The mother should provide for the child. She is the one that cheated; however, I know that the courts will never change the process.
I want to see how courts are going to force me to do anything against my consent when I pack my bag and leave. All civil matters all contracts require your consent.
13:38 "Her mom then said her actions were terrible but
were not significant enough to end a great
marriage and break up a beautiful family"
Did anyone else feel rage at this statement?
Not a significant problem to her! The expenses and the responsibility of father and husband are not hers! She just doesn’t want her stupid daughter to move back in! 😂
Her mom is a cheater also.
@@Fix_n_Fly Thought the same, would not even be surprised if cheating wife is not her father's biological father as well.
Many women do not view cheating the same way as men. If you ewad enough if these stories you learn that women don't have a sense of honour and that they don't fall in love the way that guys do.
Sounds like the proverbial narcissistic mother-in-law, my child can't be bad.
Try finding out after 35 years, the kids are not yours! The kids, all three took DNA tests and found out they all have different fathers! My wife had been committing adultery our whole marriage and passed the kids off as mine!
DNA tests must be done at birth! It needs to be the law!
Hope she was outed to the "Whole World !"
U are correct.My sentiments for what u went through.Hope the healing is going well sir
I'm sorry this happened to you. Wish you the best in moving forward
Im sorry bro, i know that pain is enough to break a person! Be strong and best wishes
agreed but not going to happen anytime soon.
So the court got to screen the real father to make sure he's a good person financially and mentally but the wife didn't screen him to get pregnant
She couldn't even have the decency to use protection. It was planned.
Exactly spot on assessment.
They never do.
She already knew what would happen in court if he divorced her. That he would be paying child support for her bastard kid. These women are not idiots when it comes to family law.
@@cecilhammerton8167 ofc, like i say: in marriage, men have everything to lose and women, everything to gain
The State doesn't care who pays as long as they don't have to...this is why paternity tests should be mandatory.
Paternity test will never be mandatory, because it does not benefit the court system, and the female.
and thats why they never will be mandatory
@@nmstranger Yeah, let the requestor pay for it then he can sue the mother for the cost (small claims court) if the kid's not his.
And they allow family courts to get away with whatever they want so long as it is "in the best interest of the child".
@@cecilhammerton8167 best interests of the government is more like it. The courts don't care about the children.
Cases like this make me sick, even if you're not the father, you're on the hook, even if the guy is the victim of paternity fraud.
State hates getting it's pigga back sucked out.
Our laws are complete crap!
Every marriage license should have a LIABILITY WARNING in large print, in bright letters, stating the consequences to the Husband if the wife has some one elses child, and they Divorce !
@@norbertschultz6233 DNA test at birth should be mandatory.
The actual father doesn’t have enough money to support his own child!?!?
WTF
Perhaps he should keep his dick in his pants!
Why should her husband have to pay because he can’t ?
What a stupid fucking law!
$20 says her mother was a cheater.
Honesty, I think an interview with a family law attorney before getting married would open the eyes of many blue pilled men.
The court does what's in their best interest. They get a cut of child support. It's not about the kids.
No surprise,there !
You got that right.
If the courts really cared about kids, men would not have to fight tooth and nail for custody and visitation and courts would not give kids back to women who are terrible mothers.
Best interest should not violate the man's right.
Three words: MANDATORY PATERNITY TESTS
And 18 years in prison for women who commit paternity fraud.
After reading all these paternity fraud, the next girl I meet, they will know our front as my requirements for being together, paternity test for any potential birth
@@vl2010 Do yourself a huge favor. Get her to agree in writing and pay her $100 for her signature.
@@johnpauljones9310 LOL! Like that would ever happen. Women get 8 years for 2nd degree murder. Do you really think any judge in the country would give more than twice that for fraud (of ANY kind)? It's a great dream but that's about all it is.
There is no incentive for the government to do it as paternity test only indicate that man is not the father but it dons’t indicate who is. In the end state and federal government prefer not to spend money on such children when there is a perfectly viable husband that was cheated upon, let’s just insult him further with child support. Problem is solved.
Omg, the wife was just totally nuts. "I needed validation so I lied, cheated and got pregnant with another man"
Absolutely disgusting...
When the judge said she does what's "best for the children" what that really means is what's best for the mother.
And the state. Gotta keep all those government employees working, so the state takes it’s cut of child support. System is broken beyond repair.
If divorce were fair, fewer women would be filing or cheating, which would be “best for the children” throughout society
so not only is he forced to pay support for a kid that isn't his, he doesn't even get main custody of his own children? why does she get custody when she has no assets? best interest of the children is for this man to have full custody of his own kids.
State has to get its cut....
Best interest is to disappear. She failed the family, not him, he shouldn't have to pay for her mistake
The courts give the mother full custody, child support, alimony and the house, 90 % of the time. The father loses everything. Go ask 50 divorced fathers.
HE TOOK A HUGE L AND THE COURT IS BIASED
Why would anyone think it's weak to serve her in front of the parents? It's smart so she doesn't falsely accuse him of beating her.
These cheating females get reward for cheating and having another man’s kid, the system is completely broken.
It’s enabled by simps. I have more disdain for male feminists than I do female feminists, as being selfish is just in their nature.
@@Thor-Orion agree, can’t stand being around them.
Chico, I know a guy who went to live in Brazil and abandoned his "non-son." He discovered that the baby was not his because of the blood type.
It’s really simple guys, MARRY AT YOUR OWN RISK! if you’re smart, you’d see that it’s not worth it to ever ever ever do this crap! Wise men learn from the mistakes of others, not just their own.
Fathers should get 100% custody in all cases, except for abuse. Single motherhood and split families is child abuse.
Another disgusting result. But after the damage was done, I'd never think about marriage again. As the saying goes, "She's not yours. It's just your turn."
BINGO! Every man should keep that in mind.
Marriage again? Hell to the No. 😎🖕
She did all that just for validation..I don't understand women that are married.. Not only are cheating on your husband but you having unprotected sex with someone you just meet makes no sense at all..
Sadly, OP got a better divorce judgement than most of us will ever get. Especially, if you don’t have the monetary resources to battle it out in Court, which can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Worth money to fight to get your name off the birth certificate. Divorce at least and never help raise a child that is not yours if your divorced. Worth being broke paying lawyers to not have to be with a cheater every day. Been there!
@@ripvanwinkle3432 Who in heck stays in a marriage with a cheater who gets pregnant by another man? Let her and his kid be history.
Seriously. even legal minds are not at play here. DNA all the children! I lost the jest of this story when the judge awarded him the house and the kids are not going to live there and he lost full custody. I’m baffled! It’s hard to comprehend what happened behind the scenes.
This good man having to go through all this stressful stuff just because his nasty cheating wife didn't want HIS validation is far beyond disgusting. He remains a good man. She destroyed the family. He rebuilt it without her. Ironic, the betraying ex-wife chose nursing as her self-provision. Lots of cheaters there. I am glad he prays to The Lord. May he, his current wife, and those 6 children have a blessed and thankful life and an intact family!
He was blessed with a better wife and more kids.
This guy deserve it, for trying to stay with her when he found out. Also, regarding the "best" interest of the child. Who is to know that the mother will be spending the child support money on the children? At least, make the person receiving child support show proof, like receipts, being spent on the children.
< At least, make the person receiving child support show proof,>
LOL, true...kanye west pay lots of money to cardassian for child support.
But...court too lazy to do that. Dont wanna waste tax money for that. Need that tax money for other more important thing...like paying the MIC.
One state (Ohio?) may be enacting the use of child support debit cards. It will restrict what you can buy with it, that is, no adult clothes, no booze..ect. Great idea!
No he didn't deserve any of this. He didn't do the cheating, she did, and all subsequent problems come from her actions, not his. So don't blame the victim here. He handled an unimaginable situation as best he could.
@@jimmyboy131 When people say these stories are fake, but people like you comment. It re-affirms there are real people like that out in the world. Thank you!
She's using the child support to support herself. She doesn't work.
OBTW: it could be worse as in the case of Haddix versus California he was forced to pay for kids that biologically were not his, but the kicker was he was stripped of any visitation and custodial rights to those kids even though he had raised them for 3456 years, but was still ordered to pay until they were 18 years old.
Could never figure out why Berkeley isn't their Capitol. Wags the dog !
Time to move to a country without extradition!!
Awesome system we have isn’t it? Anyone can get pregnant, have a baby in the hospital, and be sent home without a care in the world who the father is. He doesn’t even have to show up there. Get the government involved and suddenly all this criteria has to be met by some man (any man at all apparently) and that’s who they stick the bill to. And you damn sure better pay it. Or else!
The attorney explained very clearly what to do. I would make sure her family knows about it. I definitely file to remove last name even if I still have to pay. By the way 12 years old and kids decided where to live. Not the court.
Courts don't want to lose their authority and power !
The laws are a total disgrace.
That's male privilege for you. The only member of society expected to keep it running yet also is considered a second class citizen.
How many times have we heard this excuse that she wanted to see if other men found her attractive. If it is her true motive then she is in a state of illusion. Plus it does not explain why after someone expressed attraction that she met them and then had unprotected sex. Makes no sense. What is wrong with people these days.
Attention (specifically, outside attention) is the modern woman's currency. It's worth more to them than dollars, pounds, euro, yen, or yuan. Why do you think even unattractive, morbidly obese women still have active Instagram pages? You can tell your wife she's beautiful every single day and she'll dismiss it. But let some dude in Wal-Mart tell her that and she's walking on air for the rest of the day. (I was going to say a male co-worker but we all know that's SA/SH nowadays so no man with two brain cells would do that at work)
At the very least, OP should have had standing to bring the civil action against the biological father since he had standing, because of the financial burden that he was stuck with. The fact that only the "mother" is allowed to sue is sexual discrimination, which is outlawed by the 1964 Civil Rights Act, among other laws.
That is incorrect. The OP does not have standing because, by state law, he IS the father of Seth for legal purposes. Thus, he has no "financial burden" any more than he has for the 3 that are his. The mother is the one who can go after the biodad because, in this instance, she is the aggrieved party. (When these laws were written, women cared about their reputation and wouldn't want it besmirched by being the mother of a bastard. So they'd sue the biodad for acknowledgement to protect their own standing.) The main problem is, many of these laws were written in two different societal ages. Women don't care about their reputations anymore, so many of these laws are badly out of date.
@@Remianen he should identify as a woman and sue the bio dad
They are always so sorry .
Sorry They got caught .
Time to change the family laws, to install rights for fathers and finally hold women accountable. Okay it means that we need prenups all the time.
In most places if your name is on the birth cirtificate you're on the hook for child support regardless of biological paternity.
After he rug swept the initial findings and ignored his lawyer's advice I lost any sympathy for him
The common theme in all these videos is doing the right thing. I wish these were available when I was going through my relationships. I guess it is never too late to learn though.
That judge is probably a single mom too.
Married and divorced once. No infidelity but grew apart. That being said, I will NEVER get married again. It's been 18 years divorced and I really like my life now as opposed to then. Marriage is a lose lose for men.
If the judge does care about what's best for the child. The court would award OP primary custody with zero child support and alimony. She can go out into the world and work for herself.
I'd spend the rest of my life on the bum before I'd be forced to pay like this. Prison? Fine. It won't get you anymore money. You'd have to kill me first. Never never never. Join the carnival, be a beachcomber, black market entrepreneur, jailbird. Literally anything but this.
I hope he checked the other three kids
The game is rigged. The only way to win is not to play.
BTW, in Michigan the court AUTOMATICALLY assigns paternity to the father with more financial resources -- even if the biological father wants to pay child support or even to adopt the child. There is absolutely no way around this law.
WHAT?!
I'd sue both Bob for the alienating my ex-wife and the sister for creating the ad on the website
Gets screwed over in divorce court…. Goes and remarries and has two more kids
What a schmuck.
I'd sue her for paternity fraud every single month, for Seth's portion of the child support, until she withdraws the claim. If she withdraws the claim, I would still continue to make Seth's child support payments VOLUNTARILY.
I refuse to be forced to take the roll of a father to someone that is not mine, at the point of a gun.
OP says to be wary of marriage then gets married again.
Its his decision, I guess.
Just like he left it up to everyone else to decide for themselves.
Best way for this not to happen is, don't get married. Buy a dog guys, they are more loving and loyal.
Depending on who they are replacing, most Pythons are better, too !
Paternity laws need to change, this is ridiculous. “The best interest of the child” it’s just a pretext because the state takes a cut of the child support payments, so the more money they can extort from the “Father” they will. An argument could be made that it’s in the best interest of the child to know who their real father is. The state should then garnish his wage, no question. There’s no reason the biological father should be able to skate on child support just because he was able to fly under the radar for two years.
If my wife pulled that shit, I would not have a damn thing to do with her or ever speak one word to her again. It isn't the faul of Seth what her mother and bio father did but still, I would not take care of the kid. I would refuse to pay anything no matter what the court said. The biofather needs to be held accountable ...
the next thing is, why do people not have a jury hearing for this. Juries can nullify any law. all it takes in one jurur to call bullshit on the law and get it NULLIFIED.....
OP said he and wife were half-Italian. I would spend another $950 to hire some big strong scary ex-cons named Rocco and Knuckles to convince the real father to come forward to the court if he values his kneecaps and hands.
You would still pay regardless.
Let me put it to you like this : if you don't pay and go to jail, your 3 real kids would be screwed. No father and a former stay at home mother to support them.
Would you hurt your kids just to spit their mother?
@@danielcody7568 Bob works a minimum wage job and he can barely support himself. Even if he came forward as Seth's bio dad, the courts would reject his claim because of his financial situation.
Exactly right! I wouldn’t have anything to do with the ex wife or pay a dime for a child that wasn’t mine in that situation. The court can choose if my three biological children get taken care of or not but I would be clear about disappearing for good if forced to pay for a child my wife had with another man when we were married and lied to me about it.
How did she have time to cheat, if life was so hectic for her? What a horrible person
When I married my wife 1998, I told her that I will test all our children, if we had any.
Always nice to hear more about that male privilege at work, keeping a man on the hook to pay for a child that ain't his and for a woman who lied to him and that he doesn't want 👍
Damn i just think it is crazy how the judge gave his wife that safety line by awarding her 51% custody. She basically gave the ex alimony through child support.... i will never understand the idea of giving the kids to the mother even though the father is the financially stable parent
I also don't understand how they think the mother should get the children when she's the one who is morally depraved. Do they want to raise a society of sociopaths?
@@Maarten8867 they want a population of sterilized idiots.
Women like Amber can justify their affairs by convincing themselves they're NOT going to leave their husband for any of their affair partners. They have this sense of entitlement that they should be able to "have their cake and eat it too". The flip side: If their husbands do the same and justify that they don't plan on leaving, they have a meltdown and call him every horrible name in the book.
She purposely had this affair with Bob, because he's not a high-value man, and couldn't support a child if she got pregnant. That, right there, gives her an EXCUSE not to leave Erik for him. Why she didn't get an abortion, I don't know. I'm gonna also guess that Bob is not "in-shape", and that makes her feel more comfortable, due to her own weight issues.
When it comes to receiving compliments, we ALL value compliments from strangers higher than from loved ones. It's a normal thing, but to take it to the level of betrayal, that's not cool. This is why guys need to keep themselves in-shape. The one thing that makes a woman GAIN ATTRACTION to her long-term partner is ANOTHER WOMAN giving her man attention. This makes the "cat claws" come out,. and makes a woman think hard if she's missing some great thing about her man. It also makes her realize her man can replace her with another woman. That, right there, will keep her in-check.
I feel bad for this guy. The courts AND his ex-wife all agree he'd be a better father for Seth. It's no wonder Amber tried to get him back for 4 years, until he met Jill. You'd think Amber would lose weight and try to be more appealing, in this case, but no, she'd rather just continue on her current weight-gain path. The gal ending up becoming a "hippo" is a common factor in many of these stories. Karma...
"The one thing that makes a woman GAIN ATTRACTION to her long-term partner is ANOTHER WOMAN giving her man attention."
That's called preselection and is absolute gospel.
Also, a man with options is more attractive to women than one without.
@@Remianen yup! That's why I always recommend not only meeting, but beating her bedroom expectations. Additionally, making friends with all of her friends, knowing she brags about your bedroom slills to them.
Overweight, divorced mother of 4, youngest is a result of adultery, living off ex’s child support, a good portion to a kid that isn’t even his! Yeah, if I were a guy, I wouldn’t take her seriously either.
The only different thing I would do were I this man would be to tell Bob that if he ever tried to become involved in MY son's life, I'd end him. As for Amber, I would have never forgiven her, and would take a great deal of joy in how she's let herself go, and how her prospects are so low, and rub it into her. She committed the ultimate evil against her husband and should be made to suffer for the rest of her life.
She love him but not enough to be faithful.
This "NEED" for attention is the real cause of many problems. Many woman do not learn that getting attention from out side t boost the ego is like taking serious drugs. It is as much dangerous. Often this need for attentiona and validation lead to cheating. It starts similary with it starts with drugs.
Absolutely unbelievable. Disgusting.
Why? You discovered it too late then. Divorce her and run.
Run? That’s stupid to say the least. Divorce? Of course. Being away from a cheater and not raising a baby that’s not your even if you are poor for years. You can always make your life better. Some states allow you to get your name off the birth certificate. Whatever do not stay with a backstabbing cheater. Running or hiding only makes you look worse and you can end up in prison for non payment. Not right but do it the least harmful way. AND DO NOT HELP RAISE A CHILD NOT YOURS EVEN IF YOU ARE STUCK WITH CHILD SUPPORT.
@@larrynorton1894 I'm saying run from her. Not saying do anything to get you in jail.
@@humansvd3269 I understand you now. I had to run from one but we had 2 sons so had to still put up with her presence for the next 12 years. And years later remarried and doing well mostly lol for 36 years now. But much, much better
@@larrynorton1894 Good to hear. I take it ex got angry you levelled up?
@@humansvd3269 I was a simp and tried therapy and marriage counseling. Never worked. I needed Reddit and SSM but didn’t have during my time. Mad? I tricked her into seeing the head phycologist for the state. My wife told her she could do what she wanted with other men. Not lying 20 minutes later a deputy Sheriff was taking her 100 miles away to a psychiatric hospital. Yep she blew her top!
Stayed there 3 months and I filed for divorce while she was there so they could handle her.
When out she still got a50/50 custody split.
I would say the key point you should be making to guys's whether they are married or not do not sign the birth certificate unless you have confirmed via DNA that you are the biological father of the child. My opinion is I do not believe the court could hold you liable if you have not signed the birth certificate. I'm not a lawyer your mileage may vary
Doesn't matter in most countries if the woman says you are the father, the courts will believe her and you will still be forced to pay or go to prison, if you are married you are automaticaly considered as father even if you are not able to have children.
Doesn't matter. Most states are like here in Texas, if you are married you don't have to sign the birth certificate just being married defaults you as the father.
It's why you shouldn't get married and why you should have your partner as a tennent so you can claim renter and avoid the common law marriage clauses.
He’s a doormat & his ex is laughing at him that he’s paying for someone else kid
Call me a monster but I’d never treat that kid the same way again, he would simply be a reminder of betrayed and that really sucks for him…
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DUde...why call it disrespectful?
Call it what it is, a betrayal. How is betrayal a mere disrespect?
I mean...say a guy betray his country...would the judge call his behaviour disrespectful? No friggin way.
Hed be called betrayer, oathbreaker, commiting mortal Sin, etc etc etc.
What she did wasnt being disrespectful. Its a betrayal, she break her vow. She break her oath under God. Shes vow breaker, oath breaker, betrayer, she break the 10 commandments (several of them), she commit mortal Sin, she indulge in Seven Deadly Sin.
Call it what it is. Call a turd stinky. Why do u guys lower down the usage of language on the sin that she commit?
Geez....grow up some spine. Call a turd a turd.
This is the mindset that put Men in weak position with the court, with the Law.
Its like saying...hey, a guy killed a dude's father. Now the dude has to pay for the guy's medical expenses. But wait, one is murder, one is cheating (n lying/bearing false witness), how is it the same? Well, its the same sin under 10 commandments. It is a Sin because it deprive the cheated husband of his life prosperity. Cheating wife and AP knowingly/unknowingly steal Husband's life.
If one unknowingly cause the death of another through neglect, its called manslaughter.
Now, cheating wife and AP steal husband's wealth....they scam him to unknowingly pay for children not of his own.
Geez...at least japan has the guts to let the husband sue both the wife and AP....
Edit: thank u for changing the thumbnail to "ultimate betrayal"
Exactly!
Insane. The system is rotten
So, he rewarded the system, the mother, and the real father, by going along with the corrupt system.
Why can't OP take Bob to court and sue him for the back child support for what he is paying for Seth
I have a hard time understanding what a woman says I am sorry for having another man's baby and then wants you to raise the child as if it was his only child. As a person that has worked in construction when the temperature is 110 degrees, there is no way I would stay with her and it would affect my relationship with the child. The biological father should pay once it is proven that he is the child's father. The law needs to change.
It's pretty obvious who wrote the laws about child support being paid regardless if the husband isn't the biological father.
The best for the child is the biological father has to take care of the child. Not to force someone else to pay child support, it is a paternity fraud.
MANDATORY DNA, before she leaves the hospital!! Should be part of the APGAR score . . . . before the baby even leaves the delivery room for the nursery. Tiny toe prick, or perhaps cord blood. Do the test, clean the baby off, wrap the baby up, and give him or her to mom or dad. Test comes back, dad is pulled aside, and told what’s what.
PERIOD, the end.
I think I would end myself if this happened to me. Most likely I would do it in front of the judges house.
I’d take the judge out first.
So the cheating ex is going to be a nurse? That's a fitting job for her.
That's why DNA tests should be mandatory at birth
If people understood jurisdiction....
The civil rights act says the law is not allowed to favor a certain class of persons....
IMHO: if I was in his place I'd run forever. Even leave the country. No money out of me for someone else's kid
Any judge who rules this way should be disbarred.
Make sure you get a good woman? He thought he did and she still cheated...
Never understand why men don't fight for their rights and respect.
They do, they end up arrested or labelled as extremists.
Why the law doesn't care about the biological father of a cheating wife's affairs and punished the husband of the cheating wife to raise someone else's child? Isn't this a paternity frauds?
Naw, send me to prison. I'll sell everything I own and donate it to the homeless before I'd let the ex-b and the court see a penny
I'd make it clear to the judge, I'm not going to be in the bastard's life. I would not raise it, I would not be involved with it. it's not my kid, and I am being forced to take care of it by unfair laws.
Amen!!! You nailed!
Sad the OP had to pay the child support but notice how he accepted it. He had no animosity toward the son. This folks is what good men do... They always do the right thing even though they're given a 💩 sandwich. Good he recovered. Again always watch for the red flags....
The law is crap and I am shocked in this day and age we have such backwards laws. Shows that first world countries need to get their acts together. Also if she had even half a brain she would have terminated the pregnancy, but if she had half a brain she would not have cheated in the first place.
I think the bio father should be forced to pay child support for that child. But who even knows if that child is the AP's. Did they force him to do a paternity test? If she cheated once she probably cheated with others. I enjoy your site BTW.
I would never made her life peaceful,. Another doormat.
To take money from her x-husband for another man’s child what a vile horror of a 304.
How the fark did these kind of laws ever got put into place???
*feminism*
Well, states don't want single mothers applying for benefits so they pass laws allowing them to pin the burden on whatever victim they see fit.
Extortion at its time finest.
She needs to pay me back this is why men don’t get married or get a pre nup .. would never be a father of another man’s child
The State also takes a percentage of child support payments, so the judiciary are absolutely incentivised to make men pay for kids that are not their's, because their employer profits from it.
Can't men escape from paying child support by moving to a different state/country? Or not?
Be careful who you lay with guys
Should have listened to the lawyer.
Oh, and Judge....why not 50% or 51%. Good question.
States that enforce unjust laws like that should at least allow double the tax deduction for child support for non-biological children that weren't adopted.
A man is just a meal ticket. That is how women see us, that is the same way the court system sees us. So if you find a loyal women you are very lucky .
I think the guy is an authentic man as he stood up and did the best he could with the hand he was dealt and he did the best for everyone involved. The kids are healthier for it and he went on to find a good woman and had more kids. He could have chosen anger and resentment and destructive behaviors and that would have destroyed everyone involved. I think this demonstrates how important good strong men are for raising children and for our society as a whole.
men out there. listen to what he said at the end of this story.
Guy still a sucker for taking care of not his kid. He should have sue the father to come forward.
Agreed! Guy is a total cuck but still thinks he did the right thing and will be praised for “stepping up” by other weak men and 304s. I have only contempt for such weakness.
Remove the judge. They'll all stop making these rulings after a while if you do
It is so sad that the court makes him continue to pay child support for a child that is not his child, proven with a DNA test. The mother should provide for the child. She is the one that cheated; however, I know that the courts will never change the process.
I want to see how courts are going to force me to do anything against my consent when I pack my bag and leave. All civil matters all contracts require your consent.
Imagine her sister was involved