True enough on the surface, but you're missing details that matter. Actually realize for themselves they can compete with LPL/LCK teams if playing at their peak and even beat some of them. And... don't just roll over and die or repeat force incredibly stupid desperation plays. Just look for calculated ways to make a comeback and don't give up. Might not be impressive for LPL/LCK team, but for NA, that's a huge mental improvement.
As an NA fan, this is pathetic. To think that the only way we could make it out of worlds was to face each other and not a single major region win is so cringe, feels like a make-a-wish moment before we die to any of the other 7 draws
@@Senng3dyou are not serious right? G2 had to go up against LPL #1 team and put up a very good fight. It is a shame G2 had to go down like this. If it was any NA team vs BLG, I bet it would be an easy 2-0 for BLG.
Gross overreaction. There's 2 things to remember here - Umti overall this year hasn't been bad at all and can only improve given more time to mesh with team. And who would you replace them with anyway? If there's no better prospects, then blowing up your roster does you no good. Plus you need to consider overall roster synergy or you end up with G2 Rekkles issue. He was most skilled adc sure, but didn't fit G2 style. Which is why Hans proved much better even if Rekkles was/is theoretically better as an individual.
I couldn't help but notice that in front of a (presumably predominant) EU crowd, TL got the bigger applause taking their final bow compared to G2 when they took theirs.
@@hecksters423 you nailed it. In contrast to most G2/EU fans' expectations. And just to clarify: I agree with TL deserving the applause more than G2. TL didn't lie to themselves or their fans about winning worlds. They kept their mouths shut and just played, and they had a good year in a region that is more competitive domestically and internationally atm than LEC.
why are we surprised by this showing? i mean flame them all you want, but the lck and lpl format are better. than eu or na, what kind of practise are our players even getting. It's absolute dogshit. The regions will only keep getting worse. While lpl and lck will only get stronger. with their new format. LEC and LCS are griefing the players with this dogshit format
@@mikelytou tl is 4 asians in their team, what about fliquest? Na is just big cash for players. + as a booster it is the easiest server to climb my customers even with 100+ ms in master/GM cause this region is npc tier
I mean I saw how Yeon played in comparison to this fraudulent NOHANDSAMA, it's just day and night. Like I'm just still soo confused how G2 even made Worlds as the first seed like they just can't play without BrokenBlade scripting on the 1 trick yasuo pick. Like how bad can you be as a team to win a game based off clutches like the f Yike skarner ult from baron pit, but like individual skill and map read is f abysmal. Never seen anything like that f game 1 vs BLG. Just disgusting performance from everyone.
Dude wtf is TL picks at game 3. Is like g2 picking ryze at their last game. Time to fire their coaches. How do you pick Kledd vs al those tanks and Kaiza doesnt kill tanks😂
G2 pick Ryze because its a side lane farmer( Caps is best kind of champ), and they needed ap midlaner who can counter Sylas. Like thats literally his only pick here
Kai'sa is literally one of the best at killing tanks. Not if you go ap poke style though. And kled - if not put behind via early 2v2 wins/gank pressure/outplay will largely neutralize yone and deny him all-in kills off a single engage due to his dismount/remount mechanic. And if TL played it, there's no doubt at least one LPL/LCK may also pull it out in knockouts as it probably came up with scrim partners as a yone counter. We'll probably see it played better there and then you and others will change your tune. It was an execution issue; not a draft issue.
Ohhhh who cares how FLY advanced and G2 didn't. They are not better than LPL and LCK teams anyways. Whoever says otherwise is absolutely delusional. Now we 'll watch FLY get demolished by GenG not because FLY is that bad, but because GenG is that good. Yes FLY got some more favorable draws in swiss and G2 didn't but that's how drawing works in any tournaments. In football/soccer at Euro 2024 Germany played Spain in quarters and it was basically the early final of the tourney. Same thing about T1 vs JDG last year. They played each other in semis but that was the true final. And this has happened many other times in every tournament mode. My point is that this is how tournaments work and not always the best teams on each end advance. Either this is because of knockouts, or a harder group compared to an easier group, or in this case a swiss stage. No system is perfect and they all have their drawbacks as you can see... What I disagree with is that the promotion / elimination series should be best of 5s not best of 3s. That's the real HUGE blunder by riot in my opinion...Why not allow a team their full potential to adapt in a series? Basically what a best of 3 means is that you can cheese off a game in the beginning of a series and instantly put your opponent with their backs against the wall, even for their tournament life. That should be illegal, especially when we 're talking about e-sports where teams can actually play back to back series without having to worry about physical fatigue, injuries etc. Final point for riot : change each swiss stage matchup to a best of 3 instead of a best of 1. That's how you get a true worlds championship where all teams show their full potential. You make it worth it for each team to compete in there, and also make it more rewarding for the fans, to enjoy their favorite teams playing a lot of games...
Refreshing to see. Fly still has inconsistency and bad series, but when they actually show up... they're showing what the next level of League looks like to other NA squads. It's been years slowly building up, but NA teams finally starting to buy into improving macro and decision-making instead of just 1v1/"I hit Korean challenger". We've seen glimpses before, but NRG just individually lacked the talent compared with some of FLY to get more from their teamwork. Don't expect them to win, but they might just upset a team in knockouts if they play at their peak. Hopefully other teams take note. TL tried, but they're just not at that next level like LPL/LCK teams yet. Keep coaching the right stuff and they can be where current peak FLY is by next year. You can't stop pushing, because LPL/LCK still improving and evolving too.
@@joshyde8520 TSM vs Samsung white quarterfinals 2014? Cloud 9 vs FNC 2018 Semifinals 2018. Either you just started watching worlds or a dumbass. I'll take both LUL
G2 played rather poorly this tournament. So many sloppy mistakes. And they didn't have the team-wide mental to make comebacks; FLY did. FLY might have some really underwhelming games, but at their tournament peak this year, they've demonstrated massive superiority to G2 as a whole. Feel bad for a few individuals - like BB actually played a solid tourney and nearly carried teammates several games. But G2 as a whole couldn't get it together as 5 for enough games to deserve to advance.
NA make it to quarter final by beating 2 small region and themself damn
Tbf, G2 had the chance to beat NA and advance to quarters last year and they shit the bed against NRG lol
@@chuy9133 I'm cool with g2 not make it to quarter last year cuz they lose to na but this year ...
True enough on the surface, but you're missing details that matter. Actually realize for themselves they can compete with LPL/LCK teams if playing at their peak and even beat some of them. And... don't just roll over and die or repeat force incredibly stupid desperation plays. Just look for calculated ways to make a comeback and don't give up. Might not be impressive for LPL/LCK team, but for NA, that's a huge mental improvement.
NRG 2-0 G2 Esports in 2023 ------ never forget
As an NA fan, this is pathetic. To think that the only way we could make it out of worlds was to face each other and not a single major region win is so cringe, feels like a make-a-wish moment before we die to any of the other 7 draws
ngl wouldnt be surprised if the draw was rigged so that knockouts wouldnt just be lpl and lck teams
Riot will never escape the "scripted" allegations
better than EU xD
@@volcanicviper5984 true
@@Senng3dyou are not serious right? G2 had to go up against LPL #1 team and put up a very good fight. It is a shame G2 had to go down like this. If it was any NA team vs BLG, I bet it would be an easy 2-0 for BLG.
Yea swiss stage was definitely step forward. NA is in playoff by playing minor regions and themselves. Way to go rito ...
To be fair that could have also happened to EU. Lucky draws. I think the swiss stage is way more interesting that the previous formats.
They really tried to sold the "swiss is better than group stage" bs 😂
its just random-draw swiss, it should be seeded
Lmao u just sound mad ur poverty region got eliminated
Spoiler block
why need spoilers for NA xd
APA is the definition of "u aint him bro"
as expected of TL, they only wins againts GAM because Kiaya and levi paid to act like bronze bots
Best thing about NA are the Caster they do a Great Job !
Team Liquid with a dominant 2-0 impressive
25:25 S-tier commentary
"Thank you APA" - TL next week hopefully lol
Umti was pretty bad too. I like Yeon though, he isnt Doublelift but he is good, I like his play.
Gross overreaction. There's 2 things to remember here - Umti overall this year hasn't been bad at all and can only improve given more time to mesh with team. And who would you replace them with anyway? If there's no better prospects, then blowing up your roster does you no good. Plus you need to consider overall roster synergy or you end up with G2 Rekkles issue. He was most skilled adc sure, but didn't fit G2 style. Which is why Hans proved much better even if Rekkles was/is theoretically better as an individual.
can none of them play Yone/Aurora? its pick/ban for korea/China, but NA doesn't care for either?
the only good thing that came out this draw is no more yapa
best lol Highlights maker Kaza ❤
NA>EU
I couldn't help but notice that in front of a (presumably predominant) EU crowd, TL got the bigger applause taking their final bow compared to G2 when they took theirs.
The end result of being too dominant at the local region, only to show fraudulent displays at international events.
@@hecksters423 you nailed it.
In contrast to most G2/EU fans' expectations.
And just to clarify: I agree with TL deserving the applause more than G2. TL didn't lie to themselves or their fans about winning worlds. They kept their mouths shut and just played, and they had a good year in a region that is more competitive domestically and internationally atm than LEC.
why are we surprised by this showing? i mean flame them all you want, but the lck and lpl format are better. than eu or na, what kind of practise are our players even getting. It's absolute dogshit. The regions will only keep getting worse. While lpl and lck will only get stronger. with their new format. LEC and LCS are griefing the players with this dogshit format
@@mikelytou tl is 4 asians in their team, what about fliquest? Na is just big cash for players. + as a booster it is the easiest server to climb my customers even with 100+ ms in master/GM cause this region is npc tier
I mean I saw how Yeon played in comparison to this fraudulent NOHANDSAMA, it's just day and night. Like I'm just still soo confused how G2 even made Worlds as the first seed like they just can't play without BrokenBlade scripting on the 1 trick yasuo pick. Like how bad can you be as a team to win a game based off clutches like the f Yike skarner ult from baron pit, but like individual skill and map read is f abysmal. Never seen anything like that f game 1 vs BLG. Just disgusting performance from everyone.
Yone is such a fun and balanced champ.
for fun server fr 😂
Dude wtf is TL picks at game 3. Is like g2 picking ryze at their last game. Time to fire their coaches. How do you pick Kledd vs al those tanks and Kaiza doesnt kill tanks😂
G2 pick Ryze because its a side lane farmer( Caps is best kind of champ), and they needed ap midlaner who can counter Sylas. Like thats literally his only pick here
Kai'sa is literally one of the best at killing tanks. Not if you go ap poke style though. And kled - if not put behind via early 2v2 wins/gank pressure/outplay will largely neutralize yone and deny him all-in kills off a single engage due to his dismount/remount mechanic.
And if TL played it, there's no doubt at least one LPL/LCK may also pull it out in knockouts as it probably came up with scrim partners as a yone counter. We'll probably see it played better there and then you and others will change your tune. It was an execution issue; not a draft issue.
Stopped watching after seeing yone just rip through champs and perma cc'ing. Thanks riot
TL might win if they dun waste time emoting every seconds 😂😂😂😂
Ohhhh who cares how FLY advanced and G2 didn't. They are not better than LPL and LCK teams anyways. Whoever says otherwise is absolutely delusional. Now we 'll watch FLY get demolished by GenG not because FLY is that bad, but because GenG is that good. Yes FLY got some more favorable draws in swiss and G2 didn't but that's how drawing works in any tournaments.
In football/soccer at Euro 2024 Germany played Spain in quarters and it was basically the early final of the tourney.
Same thing about T1 vs JDG last year. They played each other in semis but that was the true final. And this has happened many other times in every tournament mode. My point is that this is how tournaments work and not always the best teams on each end advance. Either this is because of knockouts, or a harder group compared to an easier group, or in this case a swiss stage. No system is perfect and they all have their drawbacks as you can see...
What I disagree with is that the promotion / elimination series should be best of 5s not best of 3s. That's the real HUGE blunder by riot in my opinion...Why not allow a team their full potential to adapt in a series? Basically what a best of 3 means is that you can cheese off a game in the beginning of a series and instantly put your opponent with their backs against the wall, even for their tournament life. That should be illegal, especially when we 're talking about e-sports where teams can actually play back to back series without having to worry about physical fatigue, injuries etc.
Final point for riot : change each swiss stage matchup to a best of 3 instead of a best of 1. That's how you get a true worlds championship where all teams show their full potential. You make it worth it for each team to compete in there, and also make it more rewarding for the fans, to enjoy their favorite teams playing a lot of games...
Tl not banning skarner lmao
then GenG for quarterfinals lmao talk about rock and a hard place
Tillman Shoals
So eu can beat asia guys, this is good news
I mean the fact that NA made it to quarters irrespective of the circus 🎪 is funny 😂😂😂
Dead opps
Worst series of the day
karma comes so soon hahaha, stupid Umti.
Apa max nguu . nguu mà chuyên tỏ ra nguy hiểm
Refreshing to see. Fly still has inconsistency and bad series, but when they actually show up... they're showing what the next level of League looks like to other NA squads. It's been years slowly building up, but NA teams finally starting to buy into improving macro and decision-making instead of just 1v1/"I hit Korean challenger". We've seen glimpses before, but NRG just individually lacked the talent compared with some of FLY to get more from their teamwork.
Don't expect them to win, but they might just upset a team in knockouts if they play at their peak. Hopefully other teams take note. TL tried, but they're just not at that next level like LPL/LCK teams yet. Keep coaching the right stuff and they can be where current peak FLY is by next year. You can't stop pushing, because LPL/LCK still improving and evolving too.
Ngl only way na wins is by having the perfect pick. Kinda of hilarious, matches were super boring though. Not interested in watching na vs na
kinda sad i agree! Go watch G2, oh wait LEC is out hahah
@@jeremyverhelst6184 did a na team reach quarter final before ? I think its the first time ahhahahahha
@@joshyde8520 TSM vs Samsung white quarterfinals 2014? Cloud 9 vs FNC 2018 Semifinals 2018.
Either you just started watching worlds or a dumbass. I'll take both LUL
@@joshyde8520 Are you braindead? Didn't watch last year?
@@joshyde8520TSM vs SSW I think.
G2 deserved to be TOP 8 not this....
G2 played rather poorly this tournament. So many sloppy mistakes. And they didn't have the team-wide mental to make comebacks; FLY did. FLY might have some really underwhelming games, but at their tournament peak this year, they've demonstrated massive superiority to G2 as a whole.
Feel bad for a few individuals - like BB actually played a solid tourney and nearly carried teammates several games. But G2 as a whole couldn't get it together as 5 for enough games to deserve to advance.
Yes they need their Mental Back!
So why did they lose?
@@vanchark Unlucky draw.
Apa felt like he lost his arm without neeko, and umti had his head defecated so humiliatingly, I felt gloating when he cried