Musician Reacts to Ren - Money Game Part 2 | Full Breakdown
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This was a great discussion that I think definitely needs to be had. Excited to see what Money Game part 3 is going to be.
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Ren has got many of us interacting and working together "across the aisle" of political division. His discord involves people from all political viewpoints teaming up and finding mutual ground. We're all human and have common ground, and have more in common than what divides us.
Man you helped me, your comments are so well thought through and your interaction always lovely. Sending you all the love and best wishes, and for your wife and kids, and we love your work xxx
It's nice not being in an echo chamber. Technically my views are left wing, but I don't agree with all left viewpoints. I'd be outed by the left for some of my values and beliefs. There's no black and white only shades of grey xx
100%. A lot of my friends get on me about some of my views because I am left middle. But like you said, nothing is as black and white as people try to make it out to be.
Loved your reaction and take on this! I can't wait to see what Ren does with Money Game 3. The live version of Genesis is amazing! Have a wonderful day ❤
I really like your breakdowns that hasn't changed but I definitely see a change in you from when I first watched you. I'm glad therapy is helping, doing the work can be transformational. Keep on. Can't wait to see you breakdown MG3.
Definitely hope its a positive change!
JP, I always look forward to hearing your perspective on Ren's songs, and your views on Moneygame Part 2 did not disappoint! That was a good reaction/conversation/ breakdown and you spoke your truth, all facts! Im always energized by your point of view! Both of our Ren journeys have taken us to new levels of self discovery and self awareness and I believe we are enhanced versions of ourselves through his music! Good luck with everything ❤😊
Thank you very much. I think Ren's music has led to personal healing one way or another. Whether it be givinv is strength to keep going or, in my case, helping someone realize they are struggling and that they shouldn't be ashamed to seek help.
In Australia free care is sometimes far better than paid. I had 15hrs in emergency department, multiple MRIs (thousands of dollars) and heaps of other tests all for free, even food for free xx
American way of thinking just baffles me sometimes. People are so afraid of taxes. And they tend to only be scared of the government when it suits their narrative.
@@mcflyjp I can think of 1% of the population who are scared of taxes, and have a large desire to sow disinformation FUD campaigns. It would be interesting if the top 1% paid the same tax rate as the other 99% of the population, but seems only plebs actually pay taxes and the ultra-wealthy will do anything to avoid.
@mcflyjp l Love your honesty just subscribed to your channel you seem like a genuine guy, peace and love from France, Ren for President!
Thank you very much! Glad to have you on board!
Great reaction and going into politics is fine especially with this one you kind of have to do it. It shows you if you think politicians are there to help you then you are absolutely being snowed. They are in it for themselves for the most part. I think you did an awesome job as always!
Thank you very much. Glad to hear that! I’m not sure if I should edit this one or just have it to live, unedited for tomorrow. What say you?
@mcflyjp I honestly think it is great how it is truly but I don't get offended lol. BTW how about our 49ers?!?! Amazing!
Hey man! Nice to see you again! Big love, your energy is beautiful love your vibe
Thank you very much! I appreciate that!
Another awesome reaction, spread love and honesty, much respect 🦉❤️🐊👍🙏
Thank you so much 🤗
Relax, your reactions are great. I enjoy listing to your point of view. It doesn’t have to be like everyone else’s like a rubber stamp. ❤ you’re smart and articulate! Just like others I follow they all have their own opinion. It’s become clear who is only playing Ren to get likes on their page and honestly their pretty ignorant. They just don’t understand the messages Ren is sending. You get it!
I am always just trying to be myself and share who I am with you all. It's never a lot clicks. It's a out the important conversations.
Thank you for the kind words. Comments like these help me see the good in my videos.
Fire reaction as always, sir! 🔥🦇🔥
Thank you so much!
McFly my guy! Hadn’t checked in on you in awhile and just got a notification so I’m here for it. Early like and comment cause ¿maybe? that tweaks the algorythm? When I watched this with my youngest son, he said “Dad, I heard this business economics nursery rhyme part a couple years ago / it was in a meme” - he digs some of Ren, but the main band he loves that I played him last year is Polyphia!! 🤘🏼🎧🤟🏼
I just saw Polyphia on Saturday!
This comment is just based on your intro! For someone who suffers from social anxiety etc you're doing amazing! You're a great reactor and being able to open up and show emotion is what we want! I also suffer with social anxiety and my biggest accomplishment, so far, is I now have the bottle to comment on posts like this. 😁
Every step is a big step. I commend you in this fight.
My social anxiety is weird and inconsistent. Trying to navigate it day to day can be tiring but I'm keeping on.
I'm always open if you need to chat either in my discord or on IG DMs.
@@mcflyjp Thanks for the reply. My social anxiety and depression, sorry I didn't mention that bit of my wonderful combination, has not been tested much for the last few years because after I moved back to Mum and Dads, after getting divorced, my dad unfortunately passed away at the beginning of 2020 and I became my mums full-time carer. Covid lockdown and looking after my mum has meant I've hardly left the house.😒 Sorry. Bit long.
No worry. You have the same thing as me.
You can't go through MG without being political 😂
It's interesting to think about how US politics are left vs right, and then compare that to for example Iceland, the US left is a lot further to the right than the Icelandic left. But this is all just a money game in the end, isn't it though? Those who are in power will do anything they can, to stay in power and media is a very powerful tool to occupy our mind, to distract us, like Ren actually points out very clearly in his diss rap on King Dotta, they make money off of peopke being divided. And all of this is possible because of the fear of the unknown - we, humans, categorize everything unconsciously. It's just a part of the human psyche. And those who want to stay in power use that by putting us in groups - us vs them. Anyone can be put in the "them" category. We fear that and we will do whatever we can to stay in the "us" category.
Equal education is so very important in this matter, because the more we educate ourselves, the more we realize we are more alike than not.
I hope my comment makes sense and is not just a bunch of half thought out sentences, I have a migraine attack going on right now and I have no idea if I am making any sense.
always love your channel. i have mentioned before about the Polish young guitarist Marcin and being you are a guitarist you will be blown away. start with something like moonlight sonata
Thanks. I have been told by some reactor friends to do this. Should be doing it shortly.
while ren is in a totally different league abeing blown away because of his emotional intensity, Marcin will blow you away by his unbelievable mastery and ownership of a guitar- not going to the heart but going to the brain with WTF.@@mcflyjp
I think there's a difference in types of consuming. The 99% tend to buy what they NEED. The 1% have what they WANT.
I think you'll find to many people try to buy beyond their means due to advertising, fear mongering, etc.
I had a CT scan the other day (I’m in America). My portion AFTER insurance was $1,300.00. I almost didn’t get the test because I really can’t afford it. And now student loans are starting back up on top of all my other bills. I’m sad, angry, and afraid.
It's just ridiculous. College at this point is a scam to have adults start their life in debt without any guarantee of employment.
@@mcflyjp I couldn’t agree more. If you don’t take interest into account, I would have had them paid off already.
@@NoraMorgan it’s essentially punishment for years and years of hard work. And punishing those who are middle and lower class and the rich families benefit.
I come from Denmark, supposedly the least corrupt country in the world, and even here, we are experiencing major changes and issues right now. Racism is spreading. We have a case where a Syrian refugee family was being harassed by the police. One late evening, the uncle and young brothers were pulled over without reason. That night, a 15-year-old brother vanished after the police were the last to see him. He has been gone a year and a half, with no answers and no repercussions from the police. We want to know... where is Farhad.
It's so sad. I'm not sure what is happening to the human race to become so disassociated and emotionless.
Loved how you recognized the bottle of water in your hand! 😂
Idk what this means.
Houses of Parliament is where government business is carried out. Downing Street is where prime minister and chancellor of the exchequer live. They'd have hard job fitting the hundreds of m.ps in those 2 small buildings! 😂
Ok makes sense. Was trying to quickly research on the spot but sounds like I got the jist of it.
I think your analysis is bang on, although #10 Downing St. is the official residence of the Prime Minister. And I also think the courage you've shown with opening up has helped more folks than you know. I have to ask: the portrait in the background (over your right shoulder)- is that Golgo 13? Right and left are not helpful terms. Those were an invention of the French King when he asked members of the Estates General to sit based on ideology.
As for the rest, yeah, it sure seems like we're all kept divided and fighting and always have been. Alexis de Tocqueville wrote a very prescient and powerful work called: Democracy in America (or maybe it was On American Democracy), anyway, his premise was that an informed electorate is critical to the survival of a republic.
This. :) 10 Downing Street is like the White House for the UK. It's the Prime Minister's residence. It's not the seat of government in general. Though obviously just like the White House plenty of politicking/governance also takes place there.
That is probably why the government wants us uneducated. Less of a chance for a coupe. I think politics is interesting to me but it can also be scary depending on how deep you go (scary as in how broken and biased it can be)
I enjoyed your work on this! Number 10 Downing Street is the official residence of Britain's Prime Minister, so essentially that country's version of the White House.
Gotcha! I was gonna say that at first but then I didn't want to get it wrong. In doing that I got it wrong 😔
The cheater on ’Who wants to be a millionaire‘ was Charles Ingram. He‘s seen in the video at the line ‘money is the game and the ladder we climb‘.
John Carpenter was the one who needed no joker. Just at the end he took the telephone joker to call his dad to tell him that he knows the answer and is going to win the million. 😅
Ahhhh ok. That makes sense. I got the two switched, essentially.
10 downing street is basically our whitehouse - tho its just a fairly regular terraced house lol. And several houses around it are like where the chancellor of the exchequer lives- and the end of the road does have a big iron gate across it- so there is security.
p.s greatr breakdown- but i do think perhaps (and im not just talking ren) you should let your songs play through with minimal pauses - THEN rewind to the begining and go through with pauses. It would barely be any longer because its the 2nd part that takes most of the time - but it would let you hear the music as a more coherant song rather than the lines one by one? At least for anything you do where you expect to have a long in depth breakdown of lyrics - its not needed for more straightforward stuff.
I think the gates are new since when I was a kid. :) If I understand correctly, they were put in in response to some very real threats a few decades back (80s, IIRC).
@@StephenJacob Yup I cant remember when but vaugely remember the incident- something like a taxi driver who sped through the much simpler older setup where the road was open but there were some road spikes and bollards but you could drive through still.. I think there might of been a few other incidents ive forgot
It was not Hitler, they were scenes from "The Great Dictator " a silent movie written and acted by Charlie Chaplin , Chaplin ridiculed Hitler and the whole idea of dictatorship . Its a small point , but nuance is important in Ren songs ,there is enough film of Hitler available if he wanted to use it ,I think he would have done so .In spite of being a silent movie The Great Dictator is still considered a masterpiece of comedy.
It was a great reaction,
Its so good to hear from someone who has an opinion even if it dosent entirely echo my own .
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I'm stupid. Haha. It was pretty quick but I know I saw that mustache.
@@mcflyjp if you haven't seen the movie it would be an easy mistake because Charlie Chaplin did a wonderful impression of Hitler . I didn't point it out to make you feel stupid because that is far from my opinion. I thought you might appreciate a little more understanding of what Ren was portraying .Dont ever feel that way about the Renagades we love Ren and we love the people who react to him and we only know what we know because we shair our info . Often a comment might be addressing the wider group. Probably the only reason I know about that movie is because I'm ancient, but there have to be some advantages to being way passed your used by date ,a bunch of missalanious info is about it . There are only 2 silent movies I would suggest anyone to watch Nosferatu 1922 and the Great Dictator by Charls Chaplin.
Waiting for MG3 on thursday now!
I'm so excited!
10 Downing is the official residence of the Prime Minister and their offices. Government is at Westminster.
Gotcha. I won't forget for next time.
@@mcflyjp Maybe Money Game 3??? Lol!
shell oil started in the 1800 hundreds they started importing seashells from china whale exporting kerosene to china
Seashells was the excuse to export kerosene. Got it.
I don't think he's talking about selling things that people could get for free, he's talking about selling things people don't need. Water to a fish, time to a clock. Ain't about getting free shit.
Both can be equally true. But I'm not really sure why you are so against getting things for free. After all the love of money is the root of all evil.
@@mcflyjp you've misinterpreted something if you had the impression I'm against free! I love both getting and giving, and I support providing a lot more things to a lot more people free of cost. Both free stuff and unneeded stuff can be true, for sure, in context of, well, REN--- these lyrics and those in other songs (Dominoes specifically)---indicate he intended to emphasize one.
I guess I don't see it that way? We can agree to disagree. The great thing about music is that much of it is subjective and can't be interpreted in a way that resonates with everyone.
OMG it is a circus and yes it is like watching the fall of the Roman Empire.💕👍🦇
Well organized and prepared circus.
Didn't know about John Carpenter in the US Who wants to be a Millionaire but at the beginning of the video was Charles Ingram on the British Who wants to be a Millionaire who cheated with someone coughing.
I think I mentioned that. . .
10 downing street is the prime minister lives. The house of lords and parliament is where government of the uk takes place. Aka 10 downing street is where the bs gets started lol.
Understood. I think that's the best way to put it to understand how it works lol
Live versions of this and Genesis, love music, or something old
I gotta check them all out.
Step 2 sounds like NFT’s to me. And Bitcoin generally
Definitely why BitCoin and NFTs were in demand far more than they should've been.
Just to get clear on the difference between right and left, because I do think there’s a tremendous amount of misunderstanding here, the major difference is that the left historicizes whereas the right naturalizes.
In looking at a particular problem, a leftist wants to analyze the material, historical conductions that created it whereas the right will say “it is what it is”
Of course there are tremendous differences between how we view hierarchies and economic prescriptions but essentially it comes down to what I just stated, and the rest flows from there. It isn’t so much communism vs fascism as it is whether or not we essentialize a problem as endemic to the human condition or whether we see a problem as the byproduct of human actions
I think that's definitely one way to look at it. But I don't really think it's as black and white as that. In my opinion, being a Democrat or a republican is a monacre you give yourself and doesn't necessarily mean that you have to follow those beliefs. In fact I think the party system is absolutely useless considering it's just become a way to divide us during voting season.
instead of saying you wanna get paid more because you work more one could also assume that equal paid money to all would cause everyone to adapt to a certain workload what would possibly cause less greed because no one could get paid more so greed becomes useless or senseless, sort of. and if you would work more because you really love what you do then it possibly wouldn’t bother you because you are happy with what you are doing no matter how much you earn. that may work only if it is very clear that there‘s no additional money for anyone. politicians, managers and presidents included naturally so everyone can be sure that there’s no reason for people to have any financial advantage. you can be sure then that only the right people with the right character would sit up there and condone those corruption-prone jobs for the right reasons. a possible vision for a better world? the rules would have to be strongly observed for that i guess.
I don't have trust in the human race for this to work. I also think that that is essentially communism. People should be rewarded for hard work. Most people will realize it wont matter how hard they work if they get paid the same regardless.
@@mcflyjp i know that you americans have some issues with communism. you seem to suspect every little political decision towards a social state being communism. but as an austrian who’s been raised in a democratic country with a good social system next to the border of the back then communist czechoslovakia let me tell you that not every social invention is to be seen as communism. i‘m not a fan of communism as it‘s been realised as well but that doesn‘t mean that certain aspects of the original idea are bad. however, i regard the idea of equal paid money absolutely not as communism but as means for a better quality of life. if you say people will realize it won‘t matter how hard they work when all get the same out of it then i would say it would cause reduction of greed and related issues and much more people would do what they always wanted to do in life because money as the only motivation makes you wanting more of it regardless if you like the work that earns you the money. hence you can’t get satisfaction in the long term. there simply is never enough if that‘s one‘s attitude. money as the one and only motivation for work always breeds problems, be it in your private life having no time with your family, your truncated social life with real friends and other people, with destroying the natural environment which we all need or like finding yourself in some work you‘ve never wanted to do. i don’t say you need no money. of course you need some for a decent life but if it is your only intention it‘s like you’re a dog who only sees the bone not ever thinking of something else always chasing. that all said i‘m not sure whether that could work just as you but society at least should try something to overcome increasing egoism. l‘m sure though that trump wouldn‘t ever solve any real problem.
I understand why people don't wanna talk about politics but to me it's very obvious that we are under attack worldwide and its escalating quite quickly. Because of the systems we are dependent on now the only thing that they need to control is the food and right now farmers/farms are under attack from ireland to America and I'm sure most other places are also. I hope I am wrong but if I'm not, hope will not help
Create a scarcity for us to be dependent on, so that we require a false sense of dependency on the government. It's been like that for years.
@@mcflyjp yes I suppose the dependency of government is technically false but in a practical sense it really is not, if a community depends on regulatory and controlled systems to put food in shops and for one reason or another be it food is too expensive or farmers are forced to kill their livestock to save the environment or many other possible things, it will lead to obvious very bad situations. its not like we can just go were we like and grow crops and raise animals when so many people are crammed into concrete jungles and most of the land is owned by a very small group of people.
Yeah, heard someone say the middle class now - that's the people who have a job. And one paycheck away from poor/destitute... Sit back and watch the show...
That's the problem though isn't it? We are just sitting back and watching instead of trying to do something.
Love Music (part 3 maybe?) has the Bond bars xx
Part 2 love music has the 2nd half of the song all Bond references.
@@kellyt5341 yes, you're right ❤️
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Try Nightwish, you'll be come father of Centyry 🤘😁👍💙✨🇫🇮
Night wish coming soon.
The political systems have evolved (corrupted?) over time to become more and more dysfunctional. Voting for one party or another is rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic (although…certain choices are like opening the bulk heads to speed up the sinking process…but the point is, it’s not going to solve the looming disaster).
While the political system is driven by money (the money game), then the only winner will be…money. People are driven by money, they serve money, they use money to make money, they corrupt other people to make them money, they exploit people to make more money.
Money should be a tool, not a goal. It should not have any role to play in the political process.
If politicians had limits to what could be spent on campaigning and if that was allocated to them once they demonstrated having a minimum of support (ie they are lent the money to campaign but they have to pay it back if they get less than say 5% of the vote), then you immediately remove money corrupting the politicians.
Politicians should be unable to use their political office for their personal gain. Any decision which may personally benefit them (financially) they should be forced to recuse themselves from voting on.
All these things are fixable…but not while people allow themselves to be divided through “fickle shit” as Ren puts it.
That said - I do not think all politicians are cut from the same cloth. There are some who are driven by a sense of purpose to do something they believe is for the good of the country. They believe passionately in what they stand for, and being able to spot that difference should be the first step towards fixing the system.
If people write off all politicians as corrupt and selfish, and disengage in the political processes, then the corrupt are the only ones who will gain power, and down the spiral we go (as many great empires have done through history).
We may disagree with a politician on some aspects, but if they are genuine and not in it for themselves, give them some support - but make sure they know that the priority needs to be reform of the political system itself. If we can get enough people in positions of influence to start making that political reform happen, we can turn this ship around yet.
Now - you mentioned not knowing what a certain persons motives were for their policies while they were President? I would encourage people to listen to his own words on that - in an interview with Howard Stern years before he ran for office, he boasted that if he ever did run for President, he would not only make sure he profited from it (and anyone who didn’t, was dumb), but that he would also use his position to get revenge on anyone who had ever crossed him. He said similar things in the presidential debates and his campaign for election. He said similar things while in office. I don’t think we need to look beyond his own boasts and promises to know what his intent was while in office. And someone who steals extremely sensitive state secrets, who knows those secrets would be worth BILLIONS to the right people, is not really leaving much room to question their motives.
Regarding American education standards - I know America spends an absolute fortune on education compared to how well it performs - partially due to huge inefficiency, but also due to the need to turn schools into prisons, with metal detectors etc. Also, I understand while the average is comparable with some of the better performing countries, that hides a huge disparity between the quality of education in affluent areas compared to poor areas as schools are often funded from local taxation - meaning you have a cycle of deprivation with kids caught in poor education as their parents can’t contribute to a quality school, which means those kids can’t get well earning jobs, which continues the cycle.
America has been an interesting social experiment into what unfettered capitalism leads to (just as USSR tried a flawed form of communism) - and what it’s shown is that while it undoubtedly leads to a country excelling economically (if entirely unsustainably), the happiness of the citizens suffers, even the wealthy are not /happy/.
Various international studies into happiness show that a social democracy has by far the happiest citizens on average.
So the question is - do people want 1% of a country to have 99% of the wealth and the country have lots of money as a result, but in the hands of a an unhappy few while the majority are unhappy and struggling to survive…or, have less money, but people feel happier, more valued, more respected, to feel safer…?
Do we keep playing the money game or is it time to play a new game?
I won't respond to everything here but do feel a lot of what you said is extremely important. I think we lie in a state of uncertainty and control that is far beyond our comprehension. The governments control over everything is something that a lot of us can't fathom. From who gets elected to what our tax dollars are spent on. So not only do we get taxed up the ass, but we have no day where that money goes. That puts us in a situation that is quite drastically unfathomable.
@@mcflyjp just on the tax point - America actually has one of the lower tax burdens in the OECD (most developed countries). The US tax burden (as a share of GDP) was just 24.3% in 2018, compared to 33.7% OECD average (that was before Trump’s tax cuts). That compares to say France which was 45%. Or looking at the tax burden of a single worker with no children earning the nations average wage on 2020, US paid 28.3%, and the OCED average was 34.6% - with Belgium highest at 51.5%.
There are many ways to look at it (and I didn’t spend long getting the most up to date data but this is a pattern that’s been true for decades), but every way you look at it, America has a lower tax burden on people (and corporations) than most developed countries, and despite perceptions, the burden has trended down in the medium to long term, but with the burden shifted more from the wealthy to the poorer population under Republicans, and shifted more to the wealthy paying more and the poor paying less under Democrats (again, that’s over the medium term, back to the 60s ish).
The difference is the other point you make - that Americans don’t FEEL their tax is put to work on things they care about. America puts way more of its tax into defence (wars) than any other country, by a huge margin. A lot of the rest ends up going into the pockets of the wealthy through valuable government contracts instead of delivering actual value to people (I’d cite the construction costs of the “wall” as an example of that - a complete useless white elephant that was only effective at funnelling tax payer money into the pockets of construction companies who happened to be donors to Trump’s political aims). This feeds the perception that tax is unjust.
In social democratic countries, people tend to pay way more tax - but in comparison, they are happy to do so as they feel they get value back, with things like universal health care (so people don’t have to worry about health insurance on top), and quality education, and generous maternity and paternity leave etc.
If the government were seen as serving the people, then tax / socialist policies work. But while the government server capital/capitalism instead of the people, then any tax feels like it is money you need being taken away and never seen again.
America could have universal health care and everyone be paying less than they do now, but paying it as tax instead of private health insurance - but that’s seen as “socialism” so it’s “bad” - because capitalism has used propaganda to convince Americans that “socialism=communism=dictatorship=evil”
Which is why it saddens me whenever anything that works elsewhere and makes people happier, like universal health care, gets rejected out of hand by certain Americans - and often the ones who would actually benefit from it the most.
if you don't like to get political you chose the wrong song to react to, lol
Personally I love how the lyrics in Ren's music have such a strong message, his lyrics are hard to ignore.
I mean, if it’s warranted then I’ll get political, like in this song.
His lyrics are always meaningful that’s what makes his music so great.
I so desperately want to sit down with you and correct/challenge some views you have about the system. 😕
Spot on about "he/him/his"
I don't remember saying anything he/him/his.
And let's talk about it what would you like to challenge?
its more like u explained to us what he said simply and elegantly more than u reacted ot it but ok
It says 'Full Breakdown' at the end.