Balaji Srinivasan: Technology Will Lead to a Borderless World

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  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
  • The Silicon Valley entrepreneur says cryptocurrencies, virtual reality, and mobile devices are helping individuals escape failed institutions.
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    "Soon you'll be able to join a VR world, and earn virtual currency in virtual reality," says Silicon Valley entrepreneur Balaji Srinivasan. "Which means that, for a good chunk of people in the world, the majority of their waking hours are going to be spent in the Matrix."
    Srinivasan believes that new technologies-mobile devices, cloud computing, cryptocurrencies-are rapidly taking us into an era when geography, nationality, and other limitations on our labor and freedom fade away. He says that this evolution will empower individuals and erode the authoritarian capabilities of the state.
    Srinivasan is a modern-day polymath who venture capitalist Marc Andreessen has called the person with "the highest output per minute of new ideas of anybody I've ever met in my life." A Ph.D. in electrical engineering, a co-founder of the genetic testing firm Counsyl, and a Stanford computer science lecturer, Srinivasan was also on Donald Trump's short list to head up the Food and Drug Administration.
    He believes in technology's power to provide a way for individuals to migrate away from ossified institutions and destructive policies. Borrowing a framework from a 1970 political science treatise by Albert O. Hirschman, Exit, Voice, and Loyalty: Responses to Decline in Firms, Organizations, and States, Srinivasan described his vision in a much-discussed 2013 talk titled "Sillicon Valley's Ultimate Exit."
    Today, he spends most of his time running the cryptocurrency-based startup Earn.com, which allows users to get paid for small tasks, like responding to emails and completing surveys. It is ultimately, he says, a tool for creating a "frictionless digital workforce." He imagines Earn.com providing users with a new type of decentralized employment based purely on their skills. Participants would log on, see a feed of tasks they needed to accomplish, and then be compensated accordingly.
    While teaching at Stanford a decade ago, Srinivasan and his brother Ramji founded the genetic testing firm Counsyl, which offers a single assay that tests for every major Mendelian genetic disease. The company aims to lower costs, empower parents, and improve the way genetic diseases are identified and treated.
    In a wide-ranging discussion, Reason's Nick Gillespie spoke with Srinivasan about his current ventures; how the FDA and other regulatory bodies should adapt to new technologies; the controversy over genetic testing and "designer babies;" how the 1997 book The Sovereign Individual has influenced his thought; his intellectual heroes; and how he's contributing to "Silicon Valley's ultimate exit."
    Interview edited by Justin Monticello. Camera by Paul Detrick and Monticello. Music by Grégoire Lourme (www.jamendo.co..., Silent Partner ( • Diamond Knight - Silen... ), Blue Giraffe (www.jamendo.co..., and Hare (www.jamendo.co....

Комментарии • 126

  • @DrBrainTickler
    @DrBrainTickler 6 лет назад +27

    At 13:42... "No amount of violence can solve a math problem"...
    That's the beginning of a truly civilized civilization.

  • @the500mphtortoise
    @the500mphtortoise 6 лет назад +57

    Guys I know conservatives have a problem with terms like borderless world, but in this context its talking about communication and travel not citezenship and migration. Dont think the hate for this video is warranted.

    • @urinalcakesorcerer8919
      @urinalcakesorcerer8919 6 лет назад

      the500mphtortoise , cultural differences absolutely matter, look at Sweden last 2 years of crime statistics.

    • @the500mphtortoise
      @the500mphtortoise 6 лет назад +3

      +UrinalCakeSorcerer Did you not read my comment? My point was that migration and citezenship is not what this video is about. In the context of this video border-less world is in reference to two people opposite sides of the planet can communicate with VR as if they are in the same room - you can hire anyone anywhere in the world for the same job with no need for travel or migration essentially making interaction and hiring borderless.
      I, and the video, make no comment about physical national borders, cultural difference or migration. Hell the concepts in this video may even reduce migration as the purpose of migrating is negated.

    • @jaythrash8804
      @jaythrash8804 6 лет назад +4

      Conservatives are social collectivists who are scared of anyone who has a skin tone darker than their's.

    • @jaythrash8804
      @jaythrash8804 6 лет назад +3

      @LordSear1982
      Social conservatism focuses on hating those who are either a different nationality or race than they are. Radical Muslims for instance are extreme social conservatives. Just like extreme Christians. Both groups are extreme social collectivists.

    • @garetclaborn
      @garetclaborn 6 лет назад

      i dont hate it but i do think it's incorrect about that particular point. technology will create new forms of borders/communities

  • @JeaneAdix
    @JeaneAdix 6 лет назад +20

    Title is misleading. This guy is a real futurist, and his points aren't just about "border-less worlds""

  • @MusicViddeos
    @MusicViddeos 5 лет назад +13

    I'm skeptical of how his vision would work for people with average to below average intelligence. Sure, if you're a genius who can code or loves technology, a virtual GoFundMe system based on skills and hardwork would work to grow seeds into trees. But this is very narrow and one-sided. As someone who works remotely from my computer 8 hours a day, there is a toll on your mental and physical health. You need plenty of sunshine and in-person interactions to experience what beauty there is in life.

    • @shreyanjoshi3622
      @shreyanjoshi3622 3 года назад +2

      Ideally, with the colluding effects of both automation at the ends, thanks to AI and Machine Learning, and at the centre through web 3.0, we should have arrived at a stage where survival is a less and less of a worry for an individual.
      More time spent with people we love, doing things we want to do is more important and the hopefully the end goal, not necessarily creating the next big trend.

  • @zachrobhan
    @zachrobhan 6 лет назад +12

    Best video ever. 10 years ago I tried to convince my coworkers that this was the future of humanity.

  • @aescubed
    @aescubed Год назад +1

    Now I understand why Lex Fridman spoke to Srinivasan for about 8 hours, I just cleared up my calendar to listen to that podcast!

  • @johnrildo2325
    @johnrildo2325 6 лет назад +5

    In a lot of ways, technology already has helped us to communicate throughout the world as if we had no borders. That might not have been the original intention, but that's how it worked out.

  • @EvaGreenFanPennyDreadful
    @EvaGreenFanPennyDreadful 6 лет назад +2

    This guy is fucking smart

  • @modifiedcontent
    @modifiedcontent 6 лет назад +10

    The nation-state and borderless world can coexist with no problem. That was the assumption of the US Constitution; anyone was welcome, but people entering America would be "naturalized", brought under American law, become citizens with equal rights. Denying people entry at the border was a late 19th century and Progressive Era invention. The alt-right's brand of nationalism goes back to the "progressive" early 20th century continental European/Germanic concept of the nation-state, as opposed to the Anglo-Saxon/Dutch concept of the nation-state. Alt-right nationalism is an insult to everything America used to stand for; individual liberty, limited government, equal opportunity under rule of law.

    • @pennsylvaniagazette124
      @pennsylvaniagazette124 6 лет назад +2

      The founders wanted to ship the Africans back. They were Natural Law guys...

    • @Matrix27594
      @Matrix27594 6 лет назад +1

      It's mostly white men who demand small government. Women and minorities want big gov to take care of them. "Individual liberty, limited government, equal opportunity under rule of law" are threatened by third world immigration. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

  • @skippylippy547
    @skippylippy547 6 лет назад +21

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @invisibleaznDJ
    @invisibleaznDJ 6 лет назад +24

    to many people knee jerkin without even watching the video clearly.

    • @chrimony
      @chrimony 6 лет назад +2

      Reason deserves most of the blame for their clickbait headline.

    • @mtndewman1022
      @mtndewman1022 6 лет назад

      chrimony exactly, they deserve it

    • @abcw114
      @abcw114 6 лет назад

      chrimony Translation: knee-jerk downvoters aren't to blame. Please.

    • @chrimony
      @chrimony 6 лет назад

      @abcw: I said Reason deserves MOST of the blame, not all of it. They initiated with the misleading headline.

  • @wolfson109
    @wolfson109 6 лет назад +2

    Phenomenal interview! Thanks a lot Nick

  • @ironsmith9769
    @ironsmith9769 6 лет назад +6

    "Where are you ideologically?" response "I don't like labels." and then proceeds to describe himself as a free-market guy to a T.

    • @localfox1000
      @localfox1000 6 лет назад +5

      Guest outs himself as a libertarian on a Libertarian channel. Shocker.

    • @Frexican54
      @Frexican54 3 года назад +1

      ​ @Shiv He said that Lee Kwon Yew is one of his heros. You can make a good argument that Yew is an Authoritarian.

  • @Specsy
    @Specsy 2 года назад +2

    14:30 happening now in 2022.

  • @PatrickHealy
    @PatrickHealy 6 лет назад +3

    I enjoyed this video so much more when I changed the speed to .75x. Him talking so fast is hard to listen to.

  • @user-mj2os1gn2e
    @user-mj2os1gn2e 3 месяца назад

    Balaji is ahead of his time. Few.

  • @user-mj2os1gn2e
    @user-mj2os1gn2e 3 месяца назад +1

    25:18 😮

  • @gostavoadolfos2023
    @gostavoadolfos2023 6 лет назад +10

    Meh. This didn't happen in Wakanda! the one and only 1st world country in Africa 😂😂😂😂

    • @cristian-si1gb
      @cristian-si1gb 6 лет назад

      younes jorge You haven't seen the movie, have you?

    • @garetclaborn
      @garetclaborn 6 лет назад +1

      lol ali the middle east and africa are very squarely in the 3rd world. there's no use denying it. btw did you notice that the categories you defined "developed, developing, underdeveloped" are three in number xD

    • @garetclaborn
      @garetclaborn 6 лет назад

      weaksauce non-response, i know they aren't directly those three categories, makes it no less funny. well it didn't til u were a party pooper

  • @mistahtut
    @mistahtut 4 года назад +1

    I took notes on this interview that you can find here, with timestamps (built using Roam Research - you can easily copy and paste into your own Roam database):
    www.marknagelberg.com/notes-on-balaji-srinivasan-interview-technology-will-lead-to-a-borderless-world/

  • @FifthConcerto
    @FifthConcerto 6 лет назад +1

    This sounds somewhat like the "Snow Crash" world in which countries essentially become "franchises".

  • @DrBrainTickler
    @DrBrainTickler 6 лет назад +1

    At 14:58.. there is no such thing as good and bad. Everything is cause and effect. Some effects or unwanted by some while being wanted by others. Positive and negative in relation to what direction we are trying to go is what we have here.. there is always push and pull. There is always both.

  • @user-mj2os1gn2e
    @user-mj2os1gn2e 3 месяца назад

    Balaji is a White Tiger.

  • @pablopeniche9194
    @pablopeniche9194 3 года назад +1

    Balaji casually predicting WW3 15:00 & 31:30

    • @Specsy
      @Specsy 2 года назад

      True

  • @Unmannedair
    @Unmannedair 6 лет назад +3

    I disagree. I think technology will lead to a world with virtual borders. If you think about it, they exist already. When was the last time you cruised the Arabic speaking section of RUclips? I think the borders will become muddier, but they'll still be there. In terms of physical borders, those will change, but those will always exist. Borders, walls, fences, and boxes are ways that humanity has for psychologically simplifying what is and is not important to them.

    • @garetclaborn
      @garetclaborn 6 лет назад

      yup basically same thing i think as a developer

    • @rwatertree
      @rwatertree 6 лет назад

      Ignorance will always be a 'border' but it can be overcome much more easily than immigrating to a far-away place where people may be hostile. The last borders will be those created by encryption.

    • @garetclaborn
      @garetclaborn 6 лет назад

      there wont be any last borders, borders will multiply faster than they can ever be removed in the not so distant future
      i'll further put forward that there is a fundamental, inescapable border in what we call lag time and it's far more consequential than people think

    • @jeremiahlawrence9240
      @jeremiahlawrence9240 6 лет назад

      Unmannedair everybody learns English worldwide, you'd be surprised by the number of non native English speakers in the English speaking virtual world. I for one am from Belgium. A borderless virtual world already happened now we have censorship happening (see China's great firewall).

    • @SpiraSpiraSpira
      @SpiraSpiraSpira 6 лет назад

      A better way to look at it is as filters, not borders.

  • @abramgaller2037
    @abramgaller2037 6 лет назад +1

    The cloud economy is technologically possible,but the social barriers are a different matter.

  •  6 лет назад +1

    stateless world is better term - local municipalities, decentralized reputation system.....

  • @user-mj2os1gn2e
    @user-mj2os1gn2e 3 месяца назад

    I spedran this at 2x.

  • @SachinDolta
    @SachinDolta 3 года назад +1

    More real now

  • @makarlock
    @makarlock 6 лет назад

    What predicts the success of people? Access to information, access to transportation. The internet + VR, hyperloop and stuff, further away FTL and Fulldive VR...thats what really matters, not government policy lol.

  • @brucebogtrotter3430
    @brucebogtrotter3430 6 лет назад +1

    We are moving towards a nationless, atheistic society but this will not improve race relations. Race will become a more central identity piece in a global world without god or country to derive meaning.

    • @garetclaborn
      @garetclaborn 6 лет назад

      more than 70% of the US is Christian, and statistically we appear to have hit peak secularism. it is already beginning to rock back the other way

  • @ronpaulrevered
    @ronpaulrevered 6 лет назад

    "Property rights are going to be the network effect" I wonder what he means by that.

  • @TKUA11
    @TKUA11 6 лет назад

    6:40 is that a boob stimulator ? Sex toy technology is going on a whole new level

  • @KevinBurciaga
    @KevinBurciaga 6 лет назад +3

    What an exciting time to be alive!

  • @sebastianaguiarbrunemeier9192
    @sebastianaguiarbrunemeier9192 Год назад

    Balaji gang

  • @crystalc1ear
    @crystalc1ear 4 года назад +2

    Balaji’s utopia sounds like a dystopia to me.

  • @jeremiahlawrence9240
    @jeremiahlawrence9240 6 лет назад

    Internet is bordeless next step is making the real world virtually borderless eventually.

  • @DrBrainTickler
    @DrBrainTickler 6 лет назад

    at 7:28... My next door neighbor is probably a total fucking piece of shit. 90% of the population is. I invite thousands of people to Xbox Live parties and maybe one out of a thousand is somebody I actually want to talk to.

  • @Terry-404
    @Terry-404 3 года назад

    Separation of church and state = scientific revolution
    Separation of state and money = ??

  • @darmony9153
    @darmony9153 6 лет назад

    Is there any value in a borderless world? I know John Lennon thinks it's a great idea, But is it necessary for anything?

  • @pauloesmarques
    @pauloesmarques 6 лет назад

    "Sovereign funds"

  • @darkisato8346
    @darkisato8346 6 лет назад

    I can see it now you wake up put on your vr gear and control a drone in a factory in some remote corner of the world.

  • @garetclaborn
    @garetclaborn 6 лет назад

    Nah, technology will increase specialization of nations. It's a mathematic inevitability

  • @Muonium1
    @Muonium1 6 лет назад

    do a shot every "ossified"

  • @satoshinakamoto7351
    @satoshinakamoto7351 5 лет назад

    Does this guy ever sleep?

  • @chriskenney4377
    @chriskenney4377 6 лет назад +2

    This guy is the classic person who has a hammer and therefore, everything looks like a nail.

  • @ctwatcher
    @ctwatcher 6 лет назад +1

    Then we best break all of these humanity destroying gadgets.

  • @22grena
    @22grena 6 лет назад +3

    Balaji would like this to happen but Europeans are not going to let people like him destroy us

  • @DrBrainTickler
    @DrBrainTickler 6 лет назад

    Our current reality is the Matrix. What you're talking about will be a matrix inside a matrix. Lol

  • @davoodulhakeem9044
    @davoodulhakeem9044 5 лет назад

    Any similar persons like BS

  • @yoavhal6050
    @yoavhal6050 6 лет назад

    no one has got the merit. well, maybe 1/1000.
    so, 999 -to much of a friction for such frail a structure.
    the very consept of revolution should be questioned and answered .
    and if you look for an antiseptic link for sound q/a -any suggestion that uses the western liberal democracy as a possible draft- just wont do,
    im afraid..

    • @yoavhal6050
      @yoavhal6050 6 лет назад

      ...that uses the western liberal democracy- just wo...

    • @garetclaborn
      @garetclaborn 6 лет назад

      do even you know what you're saying

    • @yoavhal6050
      @yoavhal6050 6 лет назад

      garet claborn yes. do you?

    • @garetclaborn
      @garetclaborn 6 лет назад

      nope i have only very little clues as to what you're actually saying
      "look for an antiseptic link for sound q/a"
      antiseptic (adj) Capable of preventing infection by inhibiting the growth of microorganisms
      wtf mate

    • @yoavhal6050
      @yoavhal6050 6 лет назад

      garet claborn right.true. Correct.virtue.equity.legal.valid.remedy.privilege.due.
      Right?
      antiseptic. Kills germs. antiseptic financial practices. Antiseptic link- it’s validity is not prone to bias

  • @luthientinuvel4681
    @luthientinuvel4681 6 лет назад

    gay

  • @Morrakiu
    @Morrakiu 6 лет назад

    >borderless world
    WTF, I love the luddites now

  • @kapildhingra20
    @kapildhingra20 6 лет назад

    "Cocaine is a helluva drug"

  • @BillBogan
    @BillBogan 6 лет назад +2

    And then the power goes out and your all screwed lmao

    • @sirus312
      @sirus312 6 лет назад

      if it goes out now we are screwed. Its doomsday if you are out of power for more than few hours.

  • @xzero01501
    @xzero01501 6 лет назад

    First?

  • @defaultHandle1110
    @defaultHandle1110 3 года назад

    2020 says: hahahahahaha!

    • @Chadhogan111
      @Chadhogan111 3 года назад

      When Google, twitter, Facebook, amazon and apple colluded to silence and censor the duly elected president of the United States, and succeeded.
      They'll say this was the moment the industrial age ended.
      Welcome to the new oligarchy. Very few people are about to control everything Hahaha

  • @Muonium1
    @Muonium1 6 лет назад

    sorry, hypey bullshit to actual content ratio too high. bailing after 5 minutes

  • @urinalcakesorcerer8919
    @urinalcakesorcerer8919 6 лет назад +5

    Alright that's it *unsubscribed*
    Who bought Reason tv and turned them evil?

    • @elijahp.3720
      @elijahp.3720 6 лет назад +11

      Please expand on what is wrong with ReasonTV and this video

    • @THApeanutMagician
      @THApeanutMagician 6 лет назад +8

      Hasnt reason always been pro immigration?

    • @TKUA11
      @TKUA11 6 лет назад +1

      Stickshempenhamper6666 well said. I don’t hear a squeak about gun rights and mental health. So much for being all about liberty, more like how to allow more debauchery

    • @angeloferrarinibuttermann6273
      @angeloferrarinibuttermann6273 6 лет назад

      i haven't seen many pro drug videos from reason and i think open borders is a terrible idea but what is wrong with weed? it's safer than many other legal substances and people still get jailed for consuming it in the US

    • @angeloferrarinibuttermann6273
      @angeloferrarinibuttermann6273 6 лет назад

      what should they say about gun rights? the US is already the country with the easiest access to guns. Wanna make it easier?

  • @TKUA11
    @TKUA11 6 лет назад

    We’re not a nation of immigrants were a nation of settlers, and the founding fathers said citizenship is for white Men of good character. Are native Americans immigrants ?

    • @jgunner280
      @jgunner280 6 лет назад +3

      At what point did they ever say that? The closest thing I can find to that is they were in fact appalled at the lack of freedom of others like slaves, but hardly put that into action since it was a large part of the economy (or they just liked benefiting from it since some were slave owners despite their words).

  • @Earthandweather
    @Earthandweather 6 лет назад

    He seems to be in his own bubble. Lots of declarative statements. He offers insights but only into his imagination. An imagination that adores crypto currencies and everything he imagines comes from that place. He is very wrong about that so...The rest is basically corrupted accordingly.