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BMW S1000XR-R-RR: Ticking Engine = Cam Failure? How to tell the difference.
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2016
- I just wanted to make a video that sums up how to tell if your ticking engine is normal or something to worry about. Although, since I've changed my oil from Motul to Castol, ticking has decreased significantly. Links to current oil below, which meets recommended BMW specs for these bikes.
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Man thanks! Just bought an 18 RR Race and it ticks like crazy up to 4k rpm then it's gone. I can hear it over the exhaust. I hope that because it's a full system Akro titanium exhaust it's just making the ticking louder.
same situation here
Thanks for the vid! Sets my mind at ease for my 17 S1kRR.
Ditto this.
my s1000rr has this ticking at around 4 and goes away . yes the mechanic said was ok ..still it's 2020 and you'd think they could just fix it ..change the design ..put old desine back in . the old bikes of past had ticks and naturally as a company I'd like to get rid of all weard sounds . ticking sux. ..if it's cam chain tensioner put old desine back into production..or work out why the new design ticks ..NOT hard. some say it's exhaust valve on headers . it sounds like an old school bike ticking rocker arm valve clearance to big . shouldn't be there BMW fix it. or another sound I've herd that's similar is a fuel injection on a car fuel rail..or sound you'd get if you sat one spark plug lead on the top of the engine and started it . the spark jumping out the cap hitting a metal serface. makes a similar tic. ..I'd love to know where it's comeing from to shut it up still. I can't see it doing that when new. ..12000 km second hand.
i just bought a s1000rr and had to do some research because the engine made some ticking noise at 3-4k rpm. but after watching your video ive concluded that its all good.
Thanks for setting my mind at ease, drive safe :)
I heard a tiny ticking noise a week before the engine let go big time, soft cam follower took out the cam dropped a valve, holed a piston wrecked the block and the head, dealer not interested
Have you managed to repair the engine and had to replace the engine completely with a new one?
yeah, the most concerning sound is startup from cold. sounds like a can full of nails being shaken. Completeley normal, its because of the oil pressure fed cam chain tensioner
well explained Bobo! unfortunately I had the later problem you explained and my cams had failed! Cams and rockers have now been replaced and I'm back on the road.
Ya I'm so sorry about that. Glad it's fixed! Hope that's the end of your issues. Don't use motul 5w40. Go with Castrol.
It's had Castrol in it from new, obviously the bad batch of cams went in mine. She sounds awesome now, and have a new exhaust on the way
Oh no I didn't mean yours was because of oil. I just meant don't use motul in the future as the ticking between 3-4k will bring back your cam ptsd lol
Good tip coz I was thinking of changing to Motul on the next oil change, I used it a lot on previous bikes. I'll stick with the Castrol
How much did it cost to get the work done? Going to look at a 2016 XR today... would like to know what I’m potentially getting myself into...
Thabk God for this video, I work on all my cars and bikes, had the xr for 2 weeks and thought my clearances were out or the cam chain needed replacing! Mine sounds just like that though !!
Turns out mine was cam failure and follower failure as well as stretched cam chain £3k bill 😭
@@DMCGINNIGLE Please tell me, did you have the engine completely disassembled for repairs? Was the oil pump checked for wear from chips from the camshafts? And what is the condition of the clutch basket?
My engine was ticking and it got worse.
I took it bmw and it needed a full top end rebuild.
2019 S1000r with 1700miles.
If your unsure, and it's under warranty, do not hesitate to return it.
The actual cost of repairs on mine was £5k + according to the dealer.
My friend just rang his has done about 4000ks and the cam lobes are worn 2018 s1000r
@@antonnicholls8926 it is very common but bmw will deny this.
I hope your friend gets his sorted OK!
How to know if my model had the bad camshaft went through the correct or the bad hardening process
mine is not doing that sound, but around 3, 4k rpm when driving (acelarating or decalarating) does like a pretty loud metalic sound, not ticking or ratling, is more like countinuous aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr like something scratching. Anyone has any idea what can it be?
Is the problem fixed?
What was it mate?
@@typhoonx53 yup. Suposedly it was some vibration around the tank area (the sound got a lot worst when the tank was almost empty). The mechanic puted some foam and it stoped completely. Very weird ahah but the bike is running fine sooooo
My 2016 XR cams started failing at 2200 miles while on a road trip. The ticking sound was loud and present at ALL revs. Its frequency proportional to the rpm. There was wear on cylinder 1 cam lobe on intake along with some wear present on exhaust cam.
Vortmax sorry to hear that. Yup that's the sign you are in trouble. Hope bmw took good care of you.
I hope in the newer bikes they fixed the issue. I have the 2018 XR. I can't hear anything.
Thanks for posting! My 2014 S1000R rattles like a can of marbles. I've changed the oil at 250, 600 and 1500 miles with Castrol 5W-40. The first two oil changes were glittery, but clear at 1500 miles. When do these cam problems show themselves?
My understanding is that it can show up very early, sometime before the first 600 mile service
BoboJones Thanks for your reply. My oil was glittery at the 250/600 mile oil change. I hope that's not "cam dust"! :(
If you are worried, just have a BMW mechanic listen to it. They won't charge you and can tell you if it's something you need to be worried about. Good luck and ride safe!
My S 1000 R did rattle like crazy. The BMW Mechanics checked her and changed the camshaft chain adjuster. Now it´s fine and no rattle at all. Hope I could help.
Check the cylinder wals, pistons migh scratch cylinders
I have been told its the header butterfly action at 4000-5500 rpm
what year bikes are you talking about? I have 19 and it does not do this.
This information is correct
My mate is a master tech for bmw motorrad and he said the same thing
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My 2018 sound the same at 3000 it sounds like the chain is „slacking“ against the motorwall :D was also super worried... but my BMW dealer said its all fine and its acutally very quiet to other s1000 engines 😂🙈
I have one S1000r, and have the same sound, I believe this sound is normal.... this engine have lot of sounds kkkkk I had the gs1200 this engine have more bad more bad sounds....
What tyres are you using ?? Thinking of getting Dunlop Q3
Using rosso 2 now, putting some Bridgestone s21 on this week. Q3s or for really serious riding. I've never gotten the rossos near there limit when I was on track and I'm sure it will be the same for the s21. But ya if you have the $$$ to burn get some Q3s! They'll be amazing!
I dont think it is a "common" problem as you indicate, but rather a known problem... Only BMW will know the true numbers, but anecdotally looking on the forums, etc. it seems to only affect a small user group.
p.s. can't hear any ticking in your clip.
Haha ya I think the new oil fixed it.... It's so loud in my older videos
mine is a 2017 with only 300 miles and its clicking like crazy at 2000 rpm and 3600 rpms.Dealer has opened up the motor to find nothing. They actually told me they don't know why its making that noise. :( hopefully its only the oil, i would sleep better
the same with my s1000rr with motul she starts to tik some times
Alfa Lisandro same to me
Thanks
Just got my camshafts and the rest replace after only 3300kms. My motor ticked only a 4000 rpms . The cams were worn. The ticking noise at any revs aren't good.
How much did it cost to get your cams replaced
@@BasicRider66 under warranty
but since then they had to put another set in for the second time and top end rebuild. Warranty covered it again. been running like a dream now fingers crossed
I can’t tell if there was ticking. 🤔
Mine has no ticking at all , I used Motul 300v 10-40 also go here for collective info s1000xrforum.com/topic/2550-engine-ticking-knocking-noise/
Ya 10w40 is probably good for motul. I was running 5w40 motul and I think it was too thin.
And those threads are exactly what fuck people up lol...
Only some not all , There are some that would say your videos do the same ,Lol !
True dat. This is my attempt to make amends.
I really want to spend £15,000 (or whatever in dollars) on a machine that makes a shit load of noise. That sounds f**ked to be honest.
Still have the bike?
Mine has the exact same noise,have u fixed it ?
did u watch the video? the bike is fine.
@@MotoBoboJones ye they was saying that mine is fine too,at the end it was the cam chain,maybe u should check it,just saying,do what u think u should.cheers
@@audiophilipp oh, gotcha. well the bike never changed or had any issues after 5 years so no need to fix.
@@MotoBoboJones glad to hear that
thanks i can sleep easy now
So basically once you started using the recommended oil the engine sounded a lot better.. surprise surprise.
I Always used the right weight oil. Motul (which is considered the best motorcycle oil on the market) was just louder. The cheaper Castrol I switched to (same exact weight) was quieter. Both would be considered equally "recommended" as they are both the correct weight.
@@MotoBoboJones yeah ok fair enough. I had a similar experience with a quality Australian oil but after reading the manual again iy was specific about castrol power 1 so now that ls all i run. As well as never running 98 but only 95 as spec'd but the manual.