6:28 The Collector only made the star-shaped floating platform as a small star shape within the bubble though and then expanded it as it left the bubble. "Easily" is debatable with this evidence.
@@mattwo7 I’ll admit I find that part debatable but if you compare it to how he uses his powers to belos moss which he had no control or answer and the collector powers were far less effective to belos then Luz
10:55 Uh, King's dad _was_ the Boiling Isles which means by transitive property, Titan Luz _is_ the Boiling Isles. When the spirit of King's dad passed on, glyphs were no longer usable by anyone. It's not like this changes much but yea, the glyphs were pretty explicitly powered by titan magic and Luz even figured this out and used proximity to King's dad's blood (which is magical passively as it was used to power a portal to the human world) in the human world to get around this restriction.
10:54 That's because the gylphs are connected to the Titan. If Luz has the Titan's powers (even just a part of them) they would still work. Also, Titan magic doesn't just automatically negate Collector magic, it only does so if they so choose to negate it, I think at least... (As we see the Collector able to use their magic near King, even though King does have the power to negate him if he so chose to)
if Disney didn't cancelled the Owl House we could have explore more of Luz's titan form and she can transform again but this time King would be helping her without dying then we would have learn more about it. King would be willing to help his sister. True, Anne had more experienced with her powers than Luz.
I think Luz should fight Iruma Suzuki from "Welcome To Demon School! Iruma-kun". *connections* -they're Both human teenagers who found another world out of nowhere (Iruma was sold to a demon by his parents and Luz tried to retrieve her good witch azura book back), with both worlds being called "the demon realm". -both iruma and luz were outcasts on earth due to a trait they have (iruma's kindness and Luz's neurodivergence). -while both initially wanted to return to the human world they decided to stay for personal reasons (iruma found a loving home and Luz wanted to become a witch). -Both were taken in by a figure who is one of or was the most powerful person in their worlds (Sullivan and eda clawthorne) and in turn, befriended their animal themed companions (opera and king). Fun fact, during their first encounters with Sullivan and eda the concept of iruma and luz being eaten by them was brought up (Sullivan said he would've eaten iruma had iruma refused to be his grandson while Luz offered herself as food to eda during their first meeting). -Both go to magical schools related to their guardians (for iruma, it's babyls where Sullivan is the principal and for Luz, it's hexide and the university of wild magic where eda was a student in the former and is headmistress in the latter) with them being the first humans enrolled. -Both have a boy pal who has an admiration of sorts towards them (Alice has a strong admiration towards Iruma after Iruma defeated him in battle and gus admires humans in general) and a girl pal who was also an outcast (Clara Valac who was considered a weirdo and Willow Park who was considered weak). -Both have a love interest from high upbringings (Ameri and Amity) and have a love for a literature series from the human world they share with those love interests (first love memories and the good witch azura). -both befriended the main antagonist's nephews (sabro and hunter). -Both have a small purple companion (alikred and stringbean) -both were put against opponents who use personal fears as weapons (orobus and Grometheus the Fear Bringer) with their worst fears being connected to their parents (iruma being sent back to his old reckless and misrable life with his parents and Camila finding out about Luz's time in the Boiling Isles and reacting badly). -There is also some meta sense in it since Iruma is known as a harem king and his opponent is a girl while Luz loves anime and has to kill someone of a medium she loves. *contrasts* -Iruma is taken in by a really important and influential figure of his demon world, lives in luxury and has a relatively normal life and is on a journey to becoming that world's new ruler While Luz is taken in by a criminal of her demon world, lives in poverty, went through a lot of traumatizing experiences/adventures and was on a journey to put that world's current ruler down. -while iruma's parents were abusive and neglectful, luz's parents were caring and loving. -Iruma hides his identity as a human in the demon realm out of fear of being eaten while Luz is rather open about being a human.
@@N00B1O1luz also need to draw huge circles to amplify the strength and range of her spells, anne can naturally do it at a faster rate without any specific movement.
I know that the anne and luz battle will end in a second. Anne just cuts Luz and blows her up in a milisecond. Actually, I think Anne can destroy the entire boiling isles. Using the Energy Manipulation, she makes a world ending animal that eats the entire core and mantle of a planet and boom. The boiling isles and the entire owl house world is gone. Anne > The Owl House Planet
Actually : - Luz can manipulate space-time using the time Pools that were shown to be borned by the Titan - All toh characters has the cosmology about the mind galleries which is an infinity x infinity x infinity equation that is : (Lowball, Midball, Highball, 4:58 Amphibia's moon is closer to earth-moon distance cuz Amphibia has two moons 9:13 speed of light = relative light reverse, bro.. Everyone that can run at speed of light can warp a planet, so everyone that can come to lightspeed is at least Large Planetary (Both Anne and Luz are large Planetary at best) 11:27 wrong, palismans are evocated directly from a timeless pocket dimensions where they can react faster than light as Stringbean went faster than Belos' time blast, also Palismans work for their owner and would attack Anne as well 15:11 no diff? *Still* : - Strength = Anne (obvious) - Travel Speed = Luz (Micro-difference) - Combat/Reaction Speed = Anne - Agility/Flexibility = Luz (not close) - Reflexes = Anne (defenly) - Durability/Endurance/Stamina = Anne (don't even) - Intelligence/Knowledge = Luz (obvious) - Combat Skills/Battle Experience = Anne (come on) - Powers/Abilities = Luz (like 20 more than Anne's) - Attack Potency/Destructive Capacity = Luz (like 20 more than Luz's) - Overall Feats = Anne - Statements/Scaling = Luz (not close) Overall : 1. Luz wins *IF* she has no timelimit because of better abilities and more skills 2. Anne wins in most cases, *IF* she can use all stones 3. Blue Anne and Titan Luz is still debatable for me since both are super fast Planetary level, both have Nigh-infinity weapons/Abilities and both can defenly match eachothers I think people saying "Luz negs amphibia" and "Anne stomps the owl house" are just fanboying video 15:48 next debate like this, Bill Cypher Vs Alastor (with proofs why Bill Cypher stomps) - just an idea
I didn’t agree. not with anne winning but how. Energy manipulation and magic. Are 2 different things. Anne didn’t use her energy manipulation on the mech and the moon. So it’s either it’s not that strong Or she would never use it in a fight. Also I don’t think her time limit is unlimited. They explained she wasn’t tired because she used it a lot so her time limit is longer than Shasha and Marcy. No infinite. If it was said in a book my bad. I didn’t read the book that came out. Her power are limited to her imagination. Yes It can be unlimited. But we’re not thinking of everything single scenario in our heads. So her power are only limited to what she thinks of. Not what every human brain can think of. If that makes sense. And the star the collector summon probably isn’t their magic so titans luz can probably still effect the collector since normal writing glyph affects the collector’s magic. And belos use the star without the collector being their. so i don’t think the star is the collector power. But i do think luz anti-collector magic will affect the first at all. Because even if you see the calamity stones as magic. Luz magic only affects the collector magic. But it still misses information to say she can affect the collector at all. And I don’t think the time limit of the forms matters because they have similar time limits anyway. But again unless it’s was in a book they said anne form last longer an Sasha and Marcy. Not last forever. I still think it’s important to not spread miss information.
@@tailskid1891 Most of the info was not mis information and in some of your points like the unlimited power was stated by the guardian and the no time limit on her calamity powers Was SPECULATION, I’m not saying it’s 100% true I’m just saying it’s heavily implied. Also the collector made the star inside Luz bubble so it is his power. Lastly Magic can be considered an energy source because it’s the power from the founding titan. Overall the reason why Anne doesn’t use energy manipulation on the robots and the core moon is unknown but it’s probably because of plot tbh but that’s just my personal take on it, of course you’re free to disagree like I said in the video it’s just my opinions. So thank you for politely disagreeing and saying your thoughts 💚
BASE COMPARISON Anne + Physically Stronger = Pretty equal in speed, BIQ and Experience + More agile + Better combat skill + Can Tap Into Powers Without Fully Transforming + Can recharge her powers + Resourceful - less range options - dumber - can't fly without transforming Luz + Better Range + Smarter + More Versatile + Creative + Palismen allows for flight = Pretty Equal in Speed, BIQ and Experience - often Impulsive - Physically Weaker - Too Reliant on Glyphs - Not as skilled in combat - Outclassed by Anne's super forms - Can't access titan form without dying - Glyph magic doesn't work outside the demon realm Super Form Comparison Calamity Anne + Physically Stronger and More Powerful + Faster + More Durable + Better AOE and Range + could theoretically create anything she wants with constructs + More Experience and skill with her Super Forms + better mobility with flight + Could easily kill base luz + Better combat experience + Telekinesis + Could create shields around people = Can adapt on the fly - Dumber - Can't withstand luz's arsenal forever - Calamity form doesn't last forever - Secret spell could kill anne Titan luz + Smarter + Can spawn glyphs + Could amplify her physical strength + More versatile + Could Easily Kill Base Anne + Could Create Shields Around Herself + Can use titan magic without stringbean + Petrification glyph could kill anne = Can adapt on the fly + Stringbean could heal a severe wound... - …But at the cost of its life - Weaker and Slower - Gets weaker overtime -Titan form doesn't last forever -not as experience with titan form - Stringbean could be a target winner (IMO) anne high diff
Now who is a matchup with two series that you may not know, but I’m gonna give you two of my most wanted matchup and I hope you do a video on them Four vs The Dark Lord (BFDI vs AvA) KJ vs GildedGuy (The KJ Saga vs GildedGuy stories)
@ okay then, if you allow me to suggest even more I’m gonna give you another three RobloxIan vs Henry Stickmin Uzi vs GLaDOS (murder drones vs portals) Ultraman vs Optimus prime (Ultraman vs Transformers)
First of all the powers of the Titan are basically God level powers and second when a titan is dead their bodies literally turned into islands so I disagree. I think it would be a tie because technically Titans are Multiverse level because think of how that Titans soul was in the in between and able to watch over every single person protecting them. So they’re technically gods. Just so you know I do not hate this video but because Titans didn’t get like a dedicated season we never really got to see their powers
Luz wipes easy. Anne had all three gems and she was still struggling to hold back the moon even before she started cracking. The Collector was able to just boop the BI moon like nothing, and even he admitted that Adult Titans are stronger than anything. and that's the kind of power that King's dad shoved into her.the kind of magic that can permanently imprison gods, fuel an entire system of magic long after death,, spawn an entire magic ecosystem right out of their corpses, and resurrect the dead with no side effects Am i saying that papa titan beats god cat? no but Demigod Luz definitely beats Demigod Anne
That statement is contradicted when archivists beats the titan. He was only refering that his powers doesn´t affect to the titans and that works like a kryptonite Luz didn´t have all the titan power, so sorry but luz is only island
@@Luz_GOATceda597 the archivist didn't "beat" the titans, they systematically slaughtered all their babies and taught witches how to kill the slightly bigger ones, then ran off
Let's highball and say that he could reach the moon in 3 seconds light takes 1.3 seconds as you yourself have shown on the screen to reach the moon. Meaning that feet is relativistic at best. Not massively faster than light. You just debunked yourself
@@MwateKawanje-uh9su She is MUCH faster than light, because in her weaker calamity state she was already faster than light speed so amp that with the full calamity stone that was unlimited in power plus they traveled to the moon way less in 3 seconds. Even in Marcy journal, she said she can travel to a place and instantly be there and she prove it twice in true colors and in the hardest thing by traveling to the moon in literal seconds
@@Luz_GOATceda597 beating someone with help DOES downscale you, I literally did the same with Anne. If I say Luz scales to belos because she beats him no matter the context then would it make sense by saying Anne pushed the moon back so she’s moon level because she stalled the process.
@@N00B1O1 no you didn´t, you say that she was able to push the moon and that´s continental in your opinion, maximum multi continental, even beeing with help. but with luz you say that defeat belos was with help and the feat isn´t valid
@ True like Luz is only relative to Belos. I’m just trying to make an example on people logic with Luz “defeating” belos. My bad if it’s a bad example tho 😅
6:28 The Collector only made the star-shaped floating platform as a small star shape within the bubble though and then expanded it as it left the bubble. "Easily" is debatable with this evidence.
@@mattwo7 I’ll admit I find that part debatable but if you compare it to how he uses his powers to belos moss which he had no control or answer and the collector powers were far less effective to belos then Luz
10:55 Uh, King's dad _was_ the Boiling Isles which means by transitive property, Titan Luz _is_ the Boiling Isles. When the spirit of King's dad passed on, glyphs were no longer usable by anyone.
It's not like this changes much but yea, the glyphs were pretty explicitly powered by titan magic and Luz even figured this out and used proximity to King's dad's blood (which is magical passively as it was used to power a portal to the human world) in the human world to get around this restriction.
Glad to see this better explained than i could ever do. Even if the result was basically the same.
10:54 That's because the gylphs are connected to the Titan. If Luz has the Titan's powers (even just a part of them) they would still work. Also, Titan magic doesn't just automatically negate Collector magic, it only does so if they so choose to negate it, I think at least... (As we see the Collector able to use their magic near King, even though King does have the power to negate him if he so chose to)
if Disney didn't cancelled the Owl House we could have explore more of Luz's titan form and she can transform again but this time King would be helping her without dying then we would have learn more about it. King would be willing to help his sister.
True, Anne had more experienced with her powers than Luz.
I think Luz should fight Iruma Suzuki from "Welcome To Demon School! Iruma-kun".
*connections*
-they're Both human teenagers who found another world out of nowhere (Iruma was sold to a demon by his parents and Luz tried to retrieve her good witch azura book back), with both worlds being called "the demon realm".
-both iruma and luz were outcasts on earth due to a trait they have (iruma's kindness and Luz's neurodivergence).
-while both initially wanted to return to the human world they decided to stay for personal reasons (iruma found a loving home and Luz wanted to become a witch).
-Both were taken in by a figure who is one of or was the most powerful person in their worlds (Sullivan and eda clawthorne) and in turn, befriended their animal themed companions (opera and king). Fun fact, during their first encounters with Sullivan and eda the concept of iruma and luz being eaten by them was brought up (Sullivan said he would've eaten iruma had iruma refused to be his grandson while Luz offered herself as food to eda during their first meeting).
-Both go to magical schools related to their guardians (for iruma, it's babyls where Sullivan is the principal and for Luz, it's hexide and the university of wild magic where eda was a student in the former and is headmistress in the latter) with them being the first humans enrolled.
-Both have a boy pal who has an admiration of sorts towards them (Alice has a strong admiration towards Iruma after Iruma defeated him in battle and gus admires humans in general) and a girl pal who was also an outcast (Clara Valac who was considered a weirdo and Willow Park who was considered weak).
-Both have a love interest from high upbringings (Ameri and Amity) and have a love for a literature series from the human world they share with those love interests (first love memories and the good witch azura).
-both befriended the main antagonist's nephews (sabro and hunter).
-Both have a small purple companion (alikred and stringbean)
-both were put against opponents who use personal fears as weapons (orobus and Grometheus the Fear Bringer) with their worst fears being connected to their parents (iruma being sent back to his old reckless and misrable life with his parents and Camila finding out about Luz's time in the Boiling Isles and reacting badly).
-There is also some meta sense in it since Iruma is known as a harem king and his opponent is a girl while Luz loves anime and has to kill someone of a medium she loves.
*contrasts*
-Iruma is taken in by a really important and influential figure of his demon world, lives in luxury and has a relatively normal life and is on a journey to becoming that world's new ruler While Luz is taken in by a criminal of her demon world, lives in poverty, went through a lot of traumatizing experiences/adventures and was on a journey to put that world's current ruler down.
-while iruma's parents were abusive and neglectful, luz's parents were caring and loving.
-Iruma hides his identity as a human in the demon realm out of fear of being eaten while Luz is rather open about being a human.
Manga Iruma solos
Luzanne forever! 💙🌟💜
Anne can also make energy shields (like she did around sasha and marcy).
She can also channel her aura like a battering ram against andrais's shield.
@@frogfishsuperzero7943 True, there’s a lot she could do with energy contructs with her imagination. I just said the bare minimum
@N00B1O1 ok
@@N00B1O1luz also need to draw huge circles to amplify the strength and range of her spells, anne can naturally do it at a faster rate without any specific movement.
So, are you gonna continue making edits of Anne vs Luz? 💙💜
@@ShimmeryKaylaAce Yeah, I mean it is what made my channel 🤣
Plus I love to just do it for the entertainment value 💚
Se volvió todo un clásico vs verdad 🗿
I know that the anne and luz battle will end in a second. Anne just cuts Luz and blows her up in a milisecond. Actually, I think Anne can destroy the entire boiling isles. Using the Energy Manipulation, she makes a world ending animal that eats the entire core and mantle of a planet and boom. The boiling isles and the entire owl house world is gone. Anne > The Owl House Planet
Actually :
- Luz can manipulate space-time using the time Pools that were shown to be borned by the Titan
- All toh characters has the cosmology about the mind galleries which is an infinity x infinity x infinity equation that is :
(Lowball,
Midball,
Highball,
4:58 Amphibia's moon is closer to earth-moon distance cuz Amphibia has two moons
9:13 speed of light = relative light reverse, bro.. Everyone that can run at speed of light can warp a planet, so everyone that can come to lightspeed is at least Large Planetary (Both Anne and Luz are large Planetary at best)
11:27 wrong, palismans are evocated directly from a timeless pocket dimensions where they can react faster than light as Stringbean went faster than Belos' time blast, also Palismans work for their owner and would attack Anne as well
15:11 no diff?
*Still* :
- Strength = Anne (obvious)
- Travel Speed = Luz (Micro-difference)
- Combat/Reaction Speed = Anne
- Agility/Flexibility = Luz (not close)
- Reflexes = Anne (defenly)
- Durability/Endurance/Stamina = Anne (don't even)
- Intelligence/Knowledge = Luz (obvious)
- Combat Skills/Battle Experience = Anne (come on)
- Powers/Abilities = Luz (like 20 more than Anne's)
- Attack Potency/Destructive Capacity = Luz (like 20 more than Luz's)
- Overall Feats = Anne
- Statements/Scaling = Luz (not close)
Overall :
1. Luz wins *IF* she has no timelimit because of better abilities and more skills
2. Anne wins in most cases, *IF* she can use all stones
3. Blue Anne and Titan Luz is still debatable for me since both are super fast Planetary level, both have Nigh-infinity weapons/Abilities and both can defenly match eachothers
I think people saying "Luz negs amphibia" and "Anne stomps the owl house" are just fanboying video
15:48 next debate like this, Bill Cypher Vs Alastor (with proofs why Bill Cypher stomps) - just an idea
Nice Video! 💯🔥
Luzanne Forever! 💙💜
Alternative title: How Anne claps Luz for eternity
No... I got one better
How to debunk Titan Luz in front of the fan base
I hate titan luz, she looks like some emo "god". People who like titan luz suck.
@lemons4869 You gotta chill dude, everyone has their preferences
I didn’t agree. not with anne winning but how. Energy manipulation and magic. Are 2 different things. Anne didn’t use her energy manipulation on the mech and the moon. So it’s either it’s not that strong Or she would never use it in a fight. Also I don’t think her time limit is unlimited. They explained she wasn’t tired because she used it a lot so her time limit is longer than Shasha and Marcy. No infinite. If it was said in a book my bad. I didn’t read the book that came out. Her power are limited to her imagination. Yes It can be unlimited. But we’re not thinking of everything single scenario in our heads. So her power are only limited to what she thinks of. Not what every human brain can think of. If that makes sense. And the star the collector summon probably isn’t their magic so titans luz can probably still effect the collector since normal writing glyph affects the collector’s magic. And belos use the star without the collector being their. so i don’t think the star is the collector power. But i do think luz anti-collector magic will affect the first at all. Because even if you see the calamity stones as magic. Luz magic only affects the collector magic. But it still misses information to say she can affect the collector at all. And I don’t think the time limit of the forms matters because they have similar time limits anyway. But again unless it’s was in a book they said anne form last longer an Sasha and Marcy. Not last forever. I still think it’s important to not spread miss information.
@@tailskid1891 Most of the info was not mis information and in some of your points like the unlimited power was stated by the guardian and the no time limit on her calamity powers
Was SPECULATION, I’m not saying it’s 100% true I’m just saying it’s heavily implied. Also the collector made the star inside Luz bubble so it is his power. Lastly Magic can be considered an energy source because it’s the power from the founding titan. Overall the reason why Anne doesn’t use energy manipulation on the robots and the core moon is unknown but it’s probably because of plot tbh but that’s just my personal take on it, of course you’re free to disagree like I said in the video it’s just my opinions. So thank you for politely disagreeing and saying your thoughts 💚
BASE COMPARISON
Anne
+ Physically Stronger
= Pretty equal in speed, BIQ and Experience
+ More agile
+ Better combat skill
+ Can Tap Into Powers Without Fully Transforming
+ Can recharge her powers
+ Resourceful
- less range options
- dumber
- can't fly without transforming
Luz
+ Better Range
+ Smarter
+ More Versatile
+ Creative
+ Palismen allows for flight
= Pretty Equal in Speed, BIQ and Experience
- often Impulsive
- Physically Weaker
- Too Reliant on Glyphs
- Not as skilled in combat
- Outclassed by Anne's super forms
- Can't access titan form without dying
- Glyph magic doesn't work outside the demon realm
Super Form Comparison
Calamity Anne
+ Physically Stronger and More Powerful
+ Faster
+ More Durable
+ Better AOE and Range
+ could theoretically create anything she wants with constructs
+ More Experience and skill with her Super Forms
+ better mobility with flight
+ Could easily kill base luz
+ Better combat experience
+ Telekinesis
+ Could create shields around people
= Can adapt on the fly
- Dumber
- Can't withstand luz's arsenal forever
- Calamity form doesn't last forever
- Secret spell could kill anne
Titan luz
+ Smarter
+ Can spawn glyphs
+ Could amplify her physical strength
+ More versatile
+ Could Easily Kill Base Anne
+ Could Create Shields Around Herself
+ Can use titan magic without stringbean
+ Petrification glyph could kill anne
= Can adapt on the fly
+ Stringbean could heal a severe wound...
- …But at the cost of its life
- Weaker and Slower
- Gets weaker overtime
-Titan form doesn't last forever
-not as experience with titan form
- Stringbean could be a target
winner (IMO)
anne high diff
I wanted to declare that a Draw.
Now who is a matchup with two series that you may not know, but I’m gonna give you two of my most wanted matchup and I hope you do a video on them
Four vs The Dark Lord (BFDI vs AvA)
KJ vs GildedGuy (The KJ Saga vs GildedGuy stories)
@@AzrafiqAiril I don’t know those series, but you’re free to say another suggestion so maybe I could do a video in them in the future 💚
@ okay then, if you allow me to suggest even more I’m gonna give you another three
RobloxIan vs Henry Stickmin
Uzi vs GLaDOS (murder drones vs portals)
Ultraman vs Optimus prime (Ultraman vs Transformers)
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First of all the powers of the Titan are basically God level powers and second when a titan is dead their bodies literally turned into islands so I disagree. I think it would be a tie because technically Titans are Multiverse level because think of how that Titans soul was in the in between and able to watch over every single person protecting them. So they’re technically gods. Just so you know I do not hate this video but because Titans didn’t get like a dedicated season we never really got to see their powers
Overkill dude
Anne wins!
Good video
But I believe you should Improve the mic Quality
Anne > Luz
Luz wipes easy. Anne had all three gems and she was still struggling to hold back the moon even before she started cracking. The Collector was able to just boop the BI moon like nothing, and even he admitted that Adult Titans are stronger than anything. and that's the kind of power that King's dad shoved into her.the kind of magic that can permanently imprison gods, fuel an entire system of magic long after death,, spawn an entire magic ecosystem right out of their corpses, and resurrect the dead with no side effects
Am i saying that papa titan beats god cat? no
but Demigod Luz definitely beats Demigod Anne
That statement is contradicted when archivists beats the titan.
He was only refering that his powers doesn´t affect to the titans and that works like a kryptonite
Luz didn´t have all the titan power, so sorry but luz is only island
@@Luz_GOATceda597 the archivist didn't "beat" the titans, they systematically slaughtered all their babies and taught witches how to kill the slightly bigger ones, then ran off
@@TheBigE9999 the pictured doesn´t say the same
Wait why would they fight?
@@SimonHamilton-o4e They won’t, I just liked to talk about a classic debate to start off this year 💚
🔛🔝!
Na wrong 😂
Let's highball and say that he could reach the moon in 3 seconds light takes 1.3 seconds as you yourself have shown on the screen to reach the moon. Meaning that feet is relativistic at best. Not massively faster than light. You just debunked yourself
I mean she not he.
@@MwateKawanje-uh9su She is MUCH faster than light, because in her weaker calamity state she was already faster than light speed so amp that with the full calamity stone that was unlimited in power plus they traveled to the moon way less in 3 seconds. Even in Marcy journal, she said she can travel to a place and instantly be there and she prove it twice in true colors and in the hardest thing by traveling to the moon in literal seconds
BRUH
Did you forget of downscaling?
Don´t ignore my proof
@@Luz_GOATceda597 It calls scaling characters with Context 🙃
@@N00B1O1 ?
@@Luz_GOATceda597 beating someone with help DOES downscale you, I literally did the same with Anne. If I say Luz scales to belos because she beats him no matter the context then would it make sense by saying Anne pushed the moon back so she’s moon level because she stalled the process.
@@N00B1O1 no you didn´t, you say that she was able to push the moon and that´s continental in your opinion, maximum multi continental, even beeing with help.
but with luz you say that defeat belos was with help and the feat isn´t valid
@ True like Luz is only relative to Belos. I’m just trying to make an example on people logic with Luz “defeating” belos. My bad if it’s a bad example tho 😅