I ordered a George T. Stagg pour to celebrate my anniversary a few years back and I still randomly think about how damn good it was. I’ve never had any Pappy expression but the Stagg felt like something special for sure.
That 12 year double barrel is incredible! Beats every offering I've had from Old Forester; this includes the birthday bourbon and presidents choice (11 year).
I remember the 27 year Heaven Hill bottle was almost the exact same bottling and labeling too. Although after that I hadn't seen one in a few years so it's still new and now more consistent.
Really enjoy this video series. I honestly don't know about many of these limited releases so its good to learn about them. Definitely love the Heaven Hill because I've come to really love their stuff. ECBP is my top whiskey and right now the only whiskey I'm buying since my backlog is too large.
You are so right to do this by brand and not company. If not you are mixing Wilderness Trail with Wild Turkey. It would also be Jim Beam and Maker's Mark. This is the proper way to do these videos.
As a person who's not a BT guy (HH is my #1), the BTAC line at retail holds the crown IMO as the best annual release. Since getting at retail is only marginally possibly, it falls a lot at secondary prices and IMO it's not worth the price to attain most of the time. If I could buy WLW or GTS at even double retail every year, I wouldn't hesitate. THH, or ER17 however I'm less a fan of year after year.
Great episode for this series of videos. I completely agree with your Heaven Hill choice. They have a bunch of super hard to find premium bottles but the HH series is the one marketed to be the top dog. Jim Beam is tough and I'm not sure if they really have a top dog. I'm going to disagree with you on BT. BTAC is being marketed as the top of the line brand but the Pappy line is held in the highest esteem. Pappy 23 is the epitome of premium. I have seen Pappy 23 in a Marvel TV series. Pappy 23 would also be the most expensive of any annual release on the secondary market. Just my two cents. Hope I see you two at the Bardstown Bourbon Festival.
I’m a HH guy (tied with beam) but I think EC18 proof point is just too low for the status of the bottle, at least, the distributor makes it out to be. The toasted rye drinks way better than 18, so I would agree I is def not their top annual tier. I agree with your lineup for them. Great whiskey nerd content tho 🥃
For Beam, if you're talking about regular releases, then I think Knob Creek 18 is about right. I don't think Little Book is looked as their tippy-top premium offering - it's a very interesting side project, but I don't think even Beam would hold it up as their flagship. I'd take a KC18 over any Little Book every day. I think it's hard to pick out the "most premium" offering from Beam because they put out so many different premium things.
@@charlesyoung8276 We mentioned Little Book. Too experimental with grains and other countries whiskey to be the best offering from a Bourbon distillery in our opinion.
There is no sale price on your website for the cast strength/unfiltered T-shirt. I’m on the same day as your broadcast. Also, what size is Chad wearing? I find those top shelf products in liquor stores near me, but the prices that are exorbitant. $1000 apiece for the BTAC. $800-$1000 for the heaven hill, etc.. is getting impossible for the average whiskey nerd to enjoy some of the better products. Thanks for your content.
Knob Creek 15 and 18? MGP owns Lux Row, but Lux Row now manages Remus, which is "Ross & Squib" distillate. Midwest Grain Products is the parent of all of it. So all annoying haha. The Double Barreled release made it to AZ, and it was like 100 flat for me. The most PREMIUM offering at Buffalo Trace is either DEVR or OFC.
I think if Jim Beam really could nail down a yearly release of Maker's Cellar aged* but make it a better bottle. Knob Creek 18, little Book, and Old Overholt (high aged) cash strength then something Harden Creek. That could be seen as equivalent to BTAC. The tier down should be KC15, Baker's 13 bourbon, Rye, and High Rye. The Maker's Wood Finishing series. Booker's Series ( Booker's should increase in age, or reduce in price. Anything to get the value in line with what it is. The available bottles should include KC12, KC12 single barrel, and the ability to get single barrel picks of both.
Don’t choose Parker’s, but choose Blood Oath. Think of the similarities between both releases. Nope. I gotta go with her in that Lux Row bears its name on the bottle, and it’s a consistent bourbon release, not some fancy rendition of various whiskeys like Parker’s.
@@Rickhouse. For Lux Row, I just don’t feel like a distillery would say the best representation of their distillery is a gift shop only release. Plus Blood Oath is a definitive once a year L.E. release.
People who ostensibly watched the video asking about Little Book and Knob Creek... It's a ton easier, I guess, to pretend to watch than it is to actually watch, and see early on that Sara and Chad talked about those brands. 🤦
Not really rules, more guidelines to make a case one way or the other, but I see what you mean. Sometimes the guidelines seem to hold more weight in one distillery's discussion more than the other, but I think that usually happens when friends get together to talk about about debates like LeBron vs Jordan, the greatest movie trilogy of all time, etc. There are facts and stats to support your case but it always comes down to your personal feelings when debating friends.
My local store has a bottle of Weller Millennium for 10,000.00 and a bottle of Eagle Rare Double Rare for 5,000.00 they told me if I buy both they would toss in a Russell’s Reserve 15 yr. Yippee, let me go grab my wallet 🤮
I have to disagree with you on the Knob Creek 18. It lacks complexity and tastes flat. You can get some caramel, brown sugar, and oak out of it, but that's about it. You can get a similar experience out of Eagle Rare, Woodford Double Oaked, or other double oaked bourbons on the market for way less. I wish I had never bought the bottle. It was $175 down the drain.
@@ItsBourbonNight I mean, that's the problem, right? I'd much rather buy a Knob Creek barrel pick or Knob Creek 12 over Knob Creek 18. Both are just better products for way less cash.
@@Vortex1988 True, but that’s also the beauty of whiskey. There is no clear right or wrong answer since taste is subjective, but talking about it sure is fun 🙂
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I ordered a George T. Stagg pour to celebrate my anniversary a few years back and I still randomly think about how damn good it was. I’ve never had any Pappy expression but the Stagg felt like something special for sure.
That 12 year double barrel is incredible! Beats every offering I've had from Old Forester; this includes the birthday bourbon and presidents choice (11 year).
Awesome series 👍
Good video thanks enjoy the rest of your weekend 🥃
I remember the 27 year Heaven Hill bottle was almost the exact same bottling and labeling too. Although after that I hadn't seen one in a few years so it's still new and now more consistent.
Really enjoy this video series. I honestly don't know about many of these limited releases so its good to learn about them. Definitely love the Heaven Hill because I've come to really love their stuff. ECBP is my top whiskey and right now the only whiskey I'm buying since my backlog is too large.
Awesome content and informative...thank y'all 🥃
You are so right to do this by brand and not company. If not you are mixing Wilderness Trail with Wild Turkey. It would also be Jim Beam and Maker's Mark. This is the proper way to do these videos.
George T is still to me the epitome of bourbon. I don’t see anything ever beating it for me and I’m so thankful to have a bottle of
Great series! Cheers!
Lux Row also has their Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, Double Single Barrel.
As a person who's not a BT guy (HH is my #1), the BTAC line at retail holds the crown IMO as the best annual release. Since getting at retail is only marginally possibly, it falls a lot at secondary prices and IMO it's not worth the price to attain most of the time. If I could buy WLW or GTS at even double retail every year, I wouldn't hesitate. THH, or ER17 however I'm less a fan of year after year.
Love this series! I would definitely buy some of these bottles if I could find them. It is just so hard for me to spend $200 plus on a bottle.
Great episode for this series of videos. I completely agree with your Heaven Hill choice. They have a bunch of super hard to find premium bottles but the HH series is the one marketed to be the top dog. Jim Beam is tough and I'm not sure if they really have a top dog. I'm going to disagree with you on BT. BTAC is being marketed as the top of the line brand but the Pappy line is held in the highest esteem. Pappy 23 is the epitome of premium. I have seen Pappy 23 in a Marvel TV series. Pappy 23 would also be the most expensive of any annual release on the secondary market. Just my two cents. Hope I see you two at the Bardstown Bourbon Festival.
I feel like Hardin’s Creek is going to be that future regular premium offering.
@@Buc5054 It could very well shape up to be that way!
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What about the hardins creek collection for Jim beam ??
@@andysk9 We have a graphic that comes up at the 3:00 mark that addresses it.
@@ItsBourbonNight apologies I must have left the room during that portion
@@andysk9 No worries!
Great video folks! The Lux row double barrel 12yr is in my top 5. But I don't think it's double oak - it's two barrels blended together.
I see a battle of the top teir bracket in the future!
Love it
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Little book for the win... at least for the last few years. Also, is that Blood Oath label on sooooper crooked?
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I’m a HH guy (tied with beam) but I think EC18 proof point is just too low for the status of the bottle, at least, the distributor makes it out to be. The toasted rye drinks way better than 18, so I would agree I is def not their top annual tier. I agree with your lineup for them. Great whiskey nerd content tho 🥃
I’ve seen two double eagle very rare on shelves recently. One was $11k and the other was $6500
For Beam, if you're talking about regular releases, then I think Knob Creek 18 is about right. I don't think Little Book is looked as their tippy-top premium offering - it's a very interesting side project, but I don't think even Beam would hold it up as their flagship. I'd take a KC18 over any Little Book every day. I think it's hard to pick out the "most premium" offering from Beam because they put out so many different premium things.
Can't wait for michters in the coming episodes 😆😆
What about Little Book?
@@charlesyoung8276 We mentioned Little Book. Too experimental with grains and other countries whiskey to be the best offering from a Bourbon distillery in our opinion.
I think pretty obviously, GTS is THE bottle of the BTAC line... if we're picking
@@danbazinet8006 Some years, yes. Maybe even most years.
I had the opportunity to purchase a 1oz sample of the DEVR and I was disappointed. For the price point of the bottle I was left wanting more
@@JacTheRipper87 Do you know which release it was?
There is no sale price on your website for the cast strength/unfiltered T-shirt. I’m on the same day as your broadcast. Also, what size is Chad wearing?
I find those top shelf products in liquor stores near me, but the prices that are exorbitant. $1000 apiece for the BTAC. $800-$1000 for the heaven hill, etc.. is getting impossible for the average whiskey nerd to enjoy some of the better products. Thanks for your content.
@@DrDaveB If you put the item in your cart it should automatically apply the discount. Chad is wearing a large. Thanks!
While mentioning the outrageous ones from Buffalo Trace I think you guys never even bothered to mention Eagle Rare 25 😛😆
One got posted in a local to me group for 50k
Knob Creek 15 and 18? MGP owns Lux Row, but Lux Row now manages Remus, which is "Ross & Squib" distillate. Midwest Grain Products is the parent of all of it. So all annoying haha. The Double Barreled release made it to AZ, and it was like 100 flat for me. The most PREMIUM offering at Buffalo Trace is either DEVR or OFC.
@@B1gC4st Indeed.
I think if Jim Beam really could nail down a yearly release of Maker's Cellar aged* but make it a better bottle. Knob Creek 18, little Book, and Old Overholt (high aged) cash strength then something Harden Creek. That could be seen as equivalent to BTAC.
The tier down should be KC15, Baker's 13 bourbon, Rye, and High Rye. The Maker's Wood Finishing series. Booker's Series ( Booker's should increase in age, or reduce in price. Anything to get the value in line with what it is.
The available bottles should include KC12, KC12 single barrel, and the ability to get single barrel picks of both.
I wish I could find KC18 at msrp…
Where could I get the shirt you’re wearing bro?
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@@ItsBourbonNight thanks and appreciate y’all for the content 🥃😎
What about OFC from Buffalo Trace
@@andrewaring Same story as the others we mentioned, no concrete release schedule.
@@ItsBourbonNight lol I know but had to
But did it come in a box?
Don’t choose Parker’s, but choose Blood Oath. Think of the similarities between both releases. Nope. I gotta go with her in that Lux Row bears its name on the bottle, and it’s a consistent bourbon release, not some fancy rendition of various whiskeys like Parker’s.
@@Rickhouse. For Lux Row, I just don’t feel like a distillery would say the best representation of their distillery is a gift shop only release. Plus Blood Oath is a definitive once a year L.E. release.
To address your jim beam conundrum, separate each particular sub brand. Best of knob creek, best of jim beam, best of bookers.
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People who ostensibly watched the video asking about Little Book and Knob Creek... It's a ton easier, I guess, to pretend to watch than it is to actually watch, and see early on that Sara and Chad talked about those brands. 🤦
@@WhiskyForBeginners 😂
You guys forgot about The Little Book from Jim Beam.
@@noworldforeric We talk about Little Book at 3:39.
@@ItsBourbonNight I saw it after I posted it but I just assumed that would be your choice. Haha
@@noworldforeric 😅
I like Wilderness Trail Rye better than their bourbon. And I'm not a big rye guy.
The feel of the "rules" seem inconsistent in the video
Not really rules, more guidelines to make a case one way or the other, but I see what you mean. Sometimes the guidelines seem to hold more weight in one distillery's discussion more than the other, but I think that usually happens when friends get together to talk about about debates like LeBron vs Jordan, the greatest movie trilogy of all time, etc. There are facts and stats to support your case but it always comes down to your personal feelings when debating friends.
@@ItsBourbonNight good points
My local store has a bottle of Weller Millennium for 10,000.00 and a bottle of Eagle Rare Double Rare for 5,000.00 they told me if I buy both they would toss in a Russell’s Reserve 15 yr. Yippee, let me go grab my wallet 🤮
because this video gives me fomo and anxiety i had to click off😅
I have to disagree with you on the Knob Creek 18. It lacks complexity and tastes flat. You can get some caramel, brown sugar, and oak out of it, but that's about it. You can get a similar experience out of Eagle Rare, Woodford Double Oaked, or other double oaked bourbons on the market for way less. I wish I had never bought the bottle. It was $175 down the drain.
@@Vortex1988 We enjoy it, but the distillery overall can do better.
@@ItsBourbonNight I mean, that's the problem, right? I'd much rather buy a Knob Creek barrel pick or Knob Creek 12 over Knob Creek 18. Both are just better products for way less cash.
@@Vortex1988 True, but that’s also the beauty of whiskey. There is no clear right or wrong answer since taste is subjective, but talking about it sure is fun 🙂