A Serious Critique of Minecraft
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2019
- Minecraft is cool again, right guys? In an attempt to shine a critical light on this gaming leviathan, I present a serious critique of Minecraft. Exactly what you expected from the channel, I'm sure.
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I've added some extra suggestions so you might want to read this after watching the video. You’re missing the point of minecraft is the most common criticism this video has received, so I thought it'd be worth discussing that now. Here's my slightly updated take.
Minecraft is a creative platform. Via multiplayer and creative modes, players are capable of creating their own fun. This is a credit to minecraft’s sandbox, but I cannot critique the game itself when the individual player has the control. That’s up to you, and your mileage may vary.
I don't want to limit Minecraft to just survival mode, but that is the base game, that's the game that the devs design.
A lot of people have commented saying that they're happy to play survival soley to build cool stuff and that to them is the point of Minecraft. Well, I actually kind of agree. Let me put it this way. The point of minecraft is to use the sandbox to unleash your creativity. So would you not agree it’s important or good for the game to present situations in which your creativity is incited? Would you not therefore agree that the game should mechanically encourage creative solutions. This is what I tried to say with a lot of the video. I think it’s where the game falls short. And if you’re capable of making survival fun and engaging for yourself entirely on your creative urges, that’s great. But wouldn't you agree it should work on its game design so more people could find survival fun and engaging?
Here's a few suggestions. We stick with Mojang's conquest progression in survival mode, and add new things, dimensions especially that bring a serious challenge. I like the aether for this. But the portal would be more challenging to build than the Nether portal. We want mechanical incentive to build BUT for that to be optional so purely creative players aren't bothered. We're also going to fix the current imbalances, add some more interesting biomes, and expand the underground.
Next, we create a new mode. Survival +. In Survival +, winter is coming. This is a suggestion I got from Lachlan in the comment section. Winter will come in a number of days, and when it does, you will face challenges. Firstly, beds do not work. Farms will die on the outside, food mobs will die. Torches on the outside will burn out. Hordes of mobs will come from the mists, and they will try to break into your house. It's up to your creativity to build something that will defend you from the winter. Again, this is a separate mode form standard survival so everyone is satisfied.
Couldn't agree more, unless someone wants to get into the complexity of redstone, it feels difficult to really go further the build urself up a good farm, a nice house and maybe a few more buildings and then that's kinda it( atleast for the casual player). Many of the bricks in games can be ugly or lack use within a design perspective. Although the game has gotten significantly better with it's block choices especially with the colored wools, colored concrete and various wood types; Also I hate every one of their rug designs :p. But I also feel like a hardcore mode would be good for the people who want a challenge and as a way to slow down their progression. Perhaps an enemy that can spawn in caves even it has torches all over the place, and perhaps even a temperature gauge so u have to keep warm in the cold climates, and you can't sustain yourself with just off 1 food. It could fill your hunger but if u keep eating the same thing you get hungry faster. And for the real hardcore people if you die you lose everything you had on you.
@@superbelo You mean.... like hardcore mode that already exists where if you die you lose the world basically? 1 life, 1 chance.
yes and no. While I would appreciate more build focused things (I would love a progression quest of sorts where as you help a village build itself up, you start to unlock the ability to create in game blueprints that both showed you some of those "tutorial" style of buildings, creating an 3d outline to guide you, but also let you create a "blue print" table that allowed you to create your own designs before you even constructed the building. We already have scaffolding and i think this would be the next step.), I understand that forcing said mechanics may put the truly creative off their game. Take GoodTimesWIthScar, one of the most creative minecraft youtubers I know, who created a legitimate chain of hand made volcanic islands in survivle multiplayer, i feel those tools may stifle people like him.
@@tommydude6735 I'm thinking something more like island survival games, where body temp matter, u can get sick, heat stroke, frost bite, some games you need to keep proteins, carbs, and fats up not just eat 1 thing and ur good. A lot of those games have similar concepts to Minecraft but the building isn't as crazy
As long as peaceful is offered by the game, the first night and every subsequent nights "challenge" is not avoided its optional. If everyone uses the easiest option why don't they do this. 10:34, Minecraft doesn't need to become more like Terraria, as the later is a action sandbox game that lets you build, and the former is a building sandbox game that has fighting. Mods exist for both games and let you refine them closer to what you individually want, but the base game don't need to be the same or even all that similar. I would argue that while Terraria encourages conquest, Minecraft encourages exploration. Terraria forces you to upgrade gear through looting and mining, to fight stronger things. Minecraft lets you do whatever you want regardless of the goal.
In a way, Minecraft is "the dark souls of" games, in how little it holds your hands, it gives you vast empty world, and a day to get your surroundings before night and through trial and hard work, you develop, you improve, you risk more and gain more, you go to new heights, stopping not at The End, not when the game says you're done, but when you look on the world as the being you've become, and can think "That is all... for now"
12:12, beacons are a momentum to your progress, and large pile of wealth reaching into the sky. On multiplayer they are a sign of status and superiority, and in single player they are a reminder of what you have achieved and have yet to still do. They aren't meant as a easy thing but a challenge to overcome though time and persistence. And instant mine is pretty nice.
The underwater monuments don't only offer gold, they offer sponge, and an exclusive block set. End cities offering both flight and an easy way to transport items makes it crucial the longer you play, letting you decide how much loot to gain from how long you want to spend. Mansion probably should have better loot and pyramids be made a bit harder, but they are less massive quest you undertake and more so, just cool things you go and explore when you're out. And all of this "conquest progression" is just one path you can take. Think of it like the main quest in skyrim, yeah it moves everything along, but you only really do it when you need to, and the real mean'n'potatoes is what happens when you step off the main path.
13:45, This is the wrong mindset, Minecraft is more akin to a toy than traditional game, in that its not what the developers tell you you to do, its what YOU want to do. Minecraft is a practically infinite world, you can't expect the devs to fill that all the way up, so your imagination has to fill in the rest, if you can't do that, then unmodded minecraft just isn't for you in the same way text adventures aren't for some people.
15:09, Maybe but their different games. This is really stupid coming from someone in games media, so let me see if I can explain this. The Terraria world is 5120.5 meters long and 1463 meters tall, this is all space in a large world. Space and the surface take up about 27% of the world while the underground through underworld takes up almost 73% of the world. Now lets look at Minecraft with a total unmodded build height of 256 meters, and an insignificant 3,600,000 KILOmeters. As you point out, the underground in Minecraft is 64 meters, or the bottom quarter of the world while there is still just 691,200,000 cubic kilometers of space above ground. Does more space really need to be added down? Also without beacons which which you also seem to to dumbfounded by, any sort of movement underground is slow and a bit random if you follow caves. Now back to Terraria, in which caves are far easier to find and travel through, and that direction of travel is almost always down. Terraria has well developed caves because the general direction of the game is down, this isn't the case with Minecraft, Minecraft you explore out, over the world not beneath it. Mining is a respite from this a way to break up the the rest of the gameplay, a way to relax mindlessly or a small challenge needed to be over come to continue on with what you want to do.
15:30 lightening round: 1, Mojang's structures have never been the best or most interesting, underground ones are simply harder to find than above ground ones. 2/3/4, no argument there, 5, what about players who don't want more environmental hazards and enjoy the game as a more peaceful relaxing game. Also Diamonds aren't the best thing in the game, as enchanted iron can outperform unenchanted diamonds, and potions can be more useful than armor.
17:00, A new mining challenge might be nice, be you are very wrong when you say every challenge is combat related. Building a better base isn't, building bigger structures isn't, making complex redstone isn't, building an economy on a server isn't, exploring to the world boarder isn't, building more optimized farms isn't, spending time trading isn't, simply thriving in your world can be 100% peaceful.
20:20, the bottom line is you don't seem to understand minecraft or mods, mods do far more than you give them credit for in minecraft, just off the top of my head, chisels and bits enhances building, tinkers forger enhances mining fairly similar to what you suggest, and twilight forest adds not only a whole new dimension but also well done"conquest" gameplay. Minecraft isn't terraria, its minecraft. Its a world in which you live, sure you can go to the nether, find a stronghold, go to the end, kill the enderdragon, kill the wither, and then turn off the game. But if you didn't enjoy that that's on you, you didn't take the game to its limits, and you didn't come close to yours, you're not just some "chosen one" your and goddamn god, the world is yours to shape in whatever image you want, go out and claim it.
Sorry for the essay, the biggest issue its sounds like to me isn't that minecraft has problems, its that its a game that's just not for you. You sorta hit it on the head at the end, its a creative outlet, not some grand story your living through and it doesn't need to be. Mojang may or may not know what they want to do, but they haven't made a game, they've made a world and if you can see the beauty in that simplicity, you should go back to your more structured games with explosions, it sounds like you'd have more fun.
“Diamonds should still be the rarest”
Nether update: *no*
Dillon Wolfe yes u poo
there is another...
Came for this comment
@@CatDevz
They didn't replace diamonds.
@@jprime9748 They kinda did though, they replaced diamonds place as the top resource...
"punch a tree, find some coal, make some tools, make a hole" eminem is shivering.
Craft some more, upgrade those tools. Make a farm, shear for wools
@@sparro8878 build a tent, build a house, use a sword to kill rabbits, cause in minecraft there isnt a single mouse
@@Forgetthereality go underground, explore alot. Find some flowers, put em in a pot.
@@sparro8878walk out the door, see a creeper, alt f4
@@23nyte fight the dragon, fall in the void. Live by a spawner, and get annoyed
“Diamons will always be the rarest resource.”
People: Netherite
Me, an intellectual: flint, but only when you need it most
Same
I don’t like this comment cuz it’s too true
emeralds: :(
@@duckybald I think no cuz you can just got it from villager
@@halo7690 Ikr, or sunken ships, extremely common
“Diamond always has to be the rarest resource” well that aged well...
Netherite isn't hard to find
@@clown454 mathematically harder to find than diamond so I’m not sure what your point is in relation to my comment...
@@Bonobo_JoJo Emerald is harder to find
@@clown454 and...? Again you’re not saying anything that really related to my original comment so I don’t know what kind of conversation you’re attempting to engage in.
@@clown454 this is completely anecdotal, but I found 3 emeralds before I found my first vein of diamond in a recent world I created
"Punch a tree
Mine some coal
Make some tools
Mine a hole."
Ah yes, poetry at its finest.
You don’t do it in that order, though.
@@jackass8441 true lol
Cronchy Borger you would need tools to mine the coal so make some tools should come first
@Hqstupidlab that’s the order he said it in
Ahem, Diggy Diggy Hole?
It causes me physical pain when I see someone mine dirt with a pickaxe.
Jonathan Rhodes I always mined dirt with a potato-
And he had a spade, LOL.
@@azarilh2355 It's footage from Minecraft Alpha.
@@user-ef6gv4wv1l Err... Ok?
@@azarilh2355 so the player would know fuck all about minecraft
"Titanium should be as strong as diamond but slow you down." Titanium is specifically known for its low density. Tungsten would make much more sense for this.
Titanium is one of the strongest materials for a given weight, being tied with bone in strength to weight ratios, so yes, Titanium is definitely strong despite not being as dense as steel
Also Titanium is extremely dense, just not as dense as heavy metals
@@theshermantanker7043 Tungsten is best used as AP rounds anyways.
@@stuglife5514 Yeah, or maybe depleted uranium I dunno. Isn't AP no longer used though? From what I hear militaries now just use completely solid shot Sabot rounds
@@theshermantanker7043 Yea modern armed militaries use APFSDS, some of the less modern ones still use APCR
Tungsten doesn't have the same ring, and titanium is more iconic.
Besides, in a game where one person can carry hundreds of hundreds of tons of gold with no sweat and diamond, a famously not-tough mineral, is the toughest, density accuracy isn't the first thing on the collective mind.
"What are you supposed to do with 8 gold blocks???"
Nether update:
get gravel
Yeah, but I highly doubt that the first gold you are going to get is in an ocean monument. Even then you don't even need that much gold, so it's overkill for a problem that doesn't exist.
Or use gold for powered rails? armor for decoration? anything?
@@gandalfmagzorzy8753 Yes you can use gold for all of those things, but it is more efficient to just mine for gold instead of clearing out an ocean monument. Maybe if there was much much more gold it would be worth it, but mining is just more efficient.
@@Peter-xm3ol True but imo its still worth it for the sponges at least when you plan to do anything with water. Still I didn't bother finding it on any world I played so far so yeah its rather bad reward.
Basically:
- Make survival survival again
- While improving the conquest aspect
- And make the mining more interesting
And the Large Biomes map way more interesting
elaborate the first one.
@@LumeanTV Villages makes survival a non issue. Its way too easy.
Fortress Europa they do. You're not wrong. But I don't feel like a lot of people would be Happy if they got rid of villages? That's probably one of the first ways to go off of rage marketing though.
@@LumeanTV y dont they just make villages significantly rarer or make them forced to generate far away from spawn...
I just want:
- Cave update
- Hostile mob boss update
I think they should add to the nether too because it's only purposes right now are to summon the wither boss, get to the end, and get materials for potions.
Benny Tea And it wouldn’t mess so much with new players
fuck that give us new hostile mobs too
WE WANT THE SKY DIMENSION BACK!
@@benny_tea its also good for fast travelling
The cave and nether updates have addressed most of this, I appreciate how they’ve listened to the community that made them so strong to begin with.
Yeah, it is almost shocking for the fact that they ACTUALLY listened.
@@ksasidhar2980 eh, they did listen since 1.13.
Yeah the nether is actually challenging even with friends and new mobs deal shit loads of damage
@@CornG4397 And gold got more uses now.
@@nittayoshifumi8252 I used to throw it away lmao
“Diamonds always have to be the rarest of ores”
Sad emerald noises.
I think its because not only emeralds can be found by mining you can easily trade them with villagers in there dopey af trades....24 wheat for an emerald cheers I will just get all that wheat from your little farm there and trade it with you...the vilalger plants more wheat etc etc... diamonds are rareer imho
Emeralds, if you ignore some of the super easy trades with villagers, are rarer than diamonds in the sense that they only spawn in one biome. But in that biome they are reasonably common.
literally when he said diamonds have to be rarest i paused the video, looked out the window and thought, uh oh buster.
emeralds are still useless except for trading and maybe making a beacon, and a majority of players dont even trade in the first place
@@rowan8756 how so
Basically "give us the cave update already"
I agree
Auza N. Toy cat lol
Cave update cave update cave update
"How bout we give you some combat updates"
Toycat, our god.
BloonsBoi 64 well that is cool too, combat can use an update
MC fans: C'mon you have the resources of Microsoft, you can make the cave update!
Mojang: B E E S
Terraria fans: The game is fine but a bossbar would be cool.
ReLogic: over 800+ new items, new bosses, new armor sets, new weapons, new biomes, more pets, and dolphins.
And yes, we're also gonna add the bossbar.
I don't play terraria, what's a bossbar? Is it like a healthbar of a boss? Or a bar that shows how many bosses you've killed? Help me please.
@@TeodorKubena Boss health bar.
@@thefurry7165 Ok, thanks. Why wasn't it there before? Knowing how much health a boss has is one of the most important parts of fighting a boss.
@@TeodorKubena Currently, when you hover the mouse over ANY kind of creature you can see it's health, and it works with bosses.
Some people like it this way, but a lot were asking for a boss bar.
@@thefurry7165 Ah, thanks again.
"it takes 5 minutes for you to reach 12 and start stripping, don't let LionMaker hear you though"
That's the most perfect rip on LionMaker I've ever heard
Lmao
1. Sprinting mobs
2. Increased mobs detection range
3. Phantoms occasionally prevent you from sleeping instead of vice versa
Fixed it
the detection range of the zombie is already pretty insane
This doesn't solve the core problem which is that the creeper is the only mob that can really get inside your dirt house and even then you have to help set it off. They need to encourage us to build castles, forts, traps, these things have all been happening in anarchy pvp servers and yet they're so afraid to add any mob that will piss off a 12 year old.
@@fletcherw32 staying in a dirt hut wouldn't be effective with these changes you still need crops, animals, enchanting room, villagers etc etc
With phantoms preventing you from sleeping and mobs swarming you you're going to need a larger safe area
@@caleborg5688 *Double it*
@@libertyprime3827 all of those can still be protected from zombies and all night spawning mobs by simple dirt walls and a shit ton of torches and slabs. Like any project is never really at risk in vanilla minecraft from anything other than creepers and endermen. Everything else will just aggressively hug you, or health tax you, you havent suggested anything that changes what the players build, just made the game harder.
“Diamons will always be the rarest resource.”
Netherite: _”Allow me to introduce myself.”_
Netherite isn't better than diamonds
netherite is just a way to upgrade diamonds
netherite is so ridiculously rare that the people who think diamonds should be the best won't ever get it
@@DarkPortall Yea it takes so much time to get a full set of tools and armor that it's mostly just a flex
@@DarkPortall I was playing with two friends and we got more than a stack of netherite ingots in less than two hours
Awesome.
@@DarkPortall what's netherite??
3 things that need to come to minecraft:
1: CAVE UPDATE
2: *A E T H E R*
3: More Mobs
Hard to survive.
And a conquest mode
We don't need aether
@@raven-vl7kz yes we do
@@jameschambers3981 no, we don't
imagine if mojang added one new ore in their cave update with NO USE. imagine..
bro thatd be crazy
I think they added copper ore after watching this video 😁
people:copper is useless
*sad builder noises
@@awesomepizza1177 fact of the matter is that, copper in real life is such an interesting metal with so much opprotunity. its a shame they just made it weather and thats the only gimmick copper has (even though iron rusts irl too)
@@dasarath5779 Exactly. Mojang focuses too much on "cool building blocks" and it kind of sucks, uses of both copper and amethyst are so niche that in practice barely anyone uses them. When I played with my gf we decided just not to smelt copper because we won't have a use for it. The past 3 updates or so feel more like "block packs" than actual updates.
8:34 Building something like that back in the day hit different
for some reason the building gave me nostalgia when I saw that
Phantoms shouldn’t be the result of insomnia, they should be insomnia themselves. They should keep the player from sleeping.
They should attack the player If he sleeps too much
ataturk undo what you have done to eastern anatolia right this instant
@@blorglorlg5073 This is actually a pretty good idea, if you sleep for some consecutive days in a row, phantoms will spawn and prevent you to sleep if you get attacked by them.
insomnia should be insomnia themselves since it is insomnia therefore phantoms should be the result of it therefore they shouldn't keep the player from sleeping.
@@blorglorlg5073 I agree but maybe only on hard
bruh i remember when everyone got bullied for playing minecraft and u had to keep it a secret
lmao the good ol days
I remember first seeing minecraft and thinking to myself: this looks so bad, it'll never take off. 2 months later I actually gave it a try and boy was I both wrong and hooked.
i remember telling everyone at school about this cool new game called minecraft and everyone thought i was insane because i never met a single person that year that had ever heard of it before
@@itmetetri611 I remember too used to be hating minecraft since I was a dedicated roblox player
Now the Minecraft players are the bullies.
Took a 6-year sobriety period from Minecraft in 2015. Came back to it just this year. I was utterly blown away with how much has changed since then
Literally. Who would’ve thought that diamonds would be TOPPED? Or the whole overworld would *literally* be revamped from the ground up?!
@@nocturnaliism the overworld being revamped is one of the most important yet underrated things about minecraft's recent changes.
The old terrain was so bad and disgusting that I think it was that reason alone I got sick of the game.
@@johnwest6690 Very true, and same
There is one mistake, people make when talking about this topic. They want to tell what 'kind of a game' Minecraft is. You say, it's survival. Others say mining, exploration, sandbox, building, fighting and so on...
The truth is - it's all of them. And this is what makes it so hard to develop for. By changing a single element of the game (you always do, even by adding content) you change all its aspects - and this is why there will always be players complaining about the updates.
More cosmetic blocks? Nah, I'd like a new sword. New structures? I don't care. I want bluestone. And so on...
Yes, especially in the takeover phase by Microsoft, Minecraft has been lagging updates but for the past 2 years, it became better. Every major update since then has be declared the new 'best'.
Although I personally agree with you and Minecraft lacks survival elements a LOT, we can't just go and say that this is what Minecraft needs to become 'great again'. It's time and a lot of careful work, Mojang ist definitely willing to do.
The nether update (1.16.) with the introduction of netherite show the braveness of 'killing' some top merchandise for game quality. I really welcome this decision and hope for the best.
If you have read so far, you seem interested in the topic and probably have an interesting standpoint. Tell me about it :D
Constructive criticism is very welcome!
Yeah I recently come back to the game after some very disappointing updates mojang made under Microsoft (1.10 and 1.12) and I was extremely overwhelmed by the amount of content that was in the game, new swim mechanics, bubble columns, new villager mechanics and especially the new nether but unlike the other updates I mentioned above I was actually impressed it was like learning minecraft all over again. These new updates have filled my heart with hope that mojang is paying attention to the stuff that they should be paying attention to, the work maybe slow but they are definitely in the right direction.
Especially with the introduction of netherite. I have seen a lot of hate from older audience that netherite is not minecrafty but this really shows that mojang is confident enough that they are ready to take some major steps towards their game because there's a reason why game studios mostly never changes their core gameplay elements unless they have a very good reason to do so.
I agree with this. I am someone who loves the exploration and adventure aspect of Minecraft. Getting better gear, hunting down bosses, new dimensions. I live for that stuff
However I am not everyone. I know people who like taking their time. Building, making farms, redstone machines, etc. While I do enjoy that stuff as well, it's not what I enjoy about the game
Minecraft is one of the biggest games on the planet. It set the world in fire for a decade. It got this way because Minecraft is not for you or me, but everyone
I hope I didn't ramble on too much. I'd love a new update that expands the game with new structures, weapons, and a dimension, but each update should have something that adds things to expand what people enjoy
What people don't know, is that yes, it has a lot of possibilities but notch didn't even wanted to had survival to the game. It was a good a idea but keep the technicalities of the game in and add all of those things is hard for Mojang.
they always forget that theres more to minecraft then just survival. servers are a thing, and in my opinion, are many times more entertaining then survival
He didnt say its survival. He said it can be used creatively as well.
"They can't change anything"
Give the ender dragon egg an use already
it should either make you get a new mini dragon pet, be used in a crazy crafting recipe or be vital in making you go to the next dimension. Imagine if you needed the wither star, the ender dragon egg and a bunch of diamonds to create something that takes you to another dimension like the aether
@@twisted4534 It could just, make your dog turn into a dragon if you feed it to him
@@luizbiel2317 nah, you have to have something like how beacon works, you put the egg on a small pyramid and wait till it grows, and maybe even be able to tame it with those purple end plants
@@Dutchman-2002 mods mate. The magic of minecraft it is in his/ this comunity.
Learn lrograming and Bum.
;)
luizbiel you use the egg to respawn the dragon
Note about the Ocean Temple's:
The loot isn't the gold blocks. The REAL loot is the Sponge, which gives you an extremely powerfull option of water manipulation.
Gold is barely usefull in anything but sponges are easily one of the best building tools since you can clear a big chunk of water anywhere you want to build or to simply have weird chunk of air underwater
Fair, but I still don't think it's good enough. Sponges might be useful, but that's only if I want to be build something underwater, and there's not much reason to do that for most players.
Also used to be the only way to get sea lanterns, but that's changed now
When it first came out at least you got all the gold for an enchanted golden apple.
@@Whitelight I think the point is if you need the sponge for anything then you should raid the water temple
this comment section has one joke we get it diamonds aren’t rarest anymore jfc
i hate modern youtube comments so much
HopefulBlue i agree it’s like they found 4 joke formats and that’s all they know
hyuk hyuhk diamond ded nethriet best, giv me my internet happy points
@@dunderheadgood
Modern RUclips commnets are now reddit jokes but somehow even worse and repeated somehow even more
@@HopefulBlue youtube comments were never good
Do y'all ever just . . . Feel so lonely in your World? . ..
You mean in minecraft?
“And Alexander looked upon his vast empire and wept, for there were no more worlds to be conquered.”
then play with a friend idk
@@Ceciliaqq thats what i was thinking like okay lol go tame a cat
@@Ceciliaqq bad wifi :{
What updates we need:
Cave update
Nether update
Performance update (16x16x16 chunks for example)
New dimension
Proper combat update
Boss update
Nether and Cave updates are the most needed imo
@@lukasbrucas3027 ditto
I still think we need a survival update. Like what was said in the video, there's no real point in trying to actually "survive" rather than conquer things you find.
@@KopfTrommel yeah, that's what cave/nether update is.
@@hakenbacker I honestly hope so. I've still been waiting years for seasons to be a thing lol
I hope they make good on their promises, they seem to be listening to the community a lot more recently.
"Titanium could be as strong as diamond but slows you down".
Despite its foreboding name titanium is actually a strong _lightweight_ metal, maybe titanium armor could be up there with diamond but you would take increased knockback?
The disadvantage on that isn't harsh enough. Good idea though. Perhaps a concussive effect when hit to balance the protective quality?
@@Whitelight, I feel what really needs to happen is a nerf to iron. You hit the nail on the head, you can easily beat everything minecraft has to offer with mildly enchanted iron gear. Titanium could have iron's old statistics.
honestly, it's not iron thats neads to be nerfed, its chainmail that needs to be buffed. the armor rating is about right in perspective of everything else, but so impossible to obtain that i either never come across it, or by the time i find even a piece of it im wearing gear far better than it. It needs to be significantly easier to obtain (which could easily be done with a crafting recipe, something mojang has for some reason, never done) and maybe have iron take a hit in its spawn rates. the extreme effort to get it with the low payoff in armor rating makes me forget constantly that it even exists because i never consider it as a viable option in a playthrough. its a perfect idea, a balance to the game that already exists, if only it was actually possible to get at low level.
Less durability?
@@lemuhnn that would be great actually
“The world should be deeper”
cave update putting bedrock at -64
Veloren putting the world limit at -32767
@@du64 cubic chunks not having bedrock at all
I disagree that it has been addressed by recent updates. And I think the core message is: Minecraft needs more danger.
I played Valheim recently and while it's unpolished and has it's problems: Building is annoying, travel takes too long, ... --- But dozens of hours in, we are very much hooked. Why? Danger, challenge. To achieve anything, we have to go places and faces enemies that constantly pose a serious threat. There's dangers everywhere we can't yet deal with, that we have to avoid.
Punch a tree,
Find some coal,
Make some tools,
Mine a hole
10/10
Should've been the lyrics of a MC song parody
X33R00S - aka the gentleman You’re so cool
dream dream dream dream dream dream
um....their are mods which wildy expand the game on pc....see "feed the beast" and "technic"..these programs will literally install all the mods you need for a particular mod pack you want to play......
DREAM DREAM DREAM DREAM DREAM DREAM
One more thing:
MAKE GOLD VALUABLE FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN CLOCKS AND BOOSTER RAILS
Tinder for hotdogs umm god apples and golden apples
notch apples and beacons?
Alexis Misselyn umm ok?
Golden carrots. Best food
they should make a super-repeater that is crafted with gold, which makes the redstone's signal x2 stronger
The wither is laughing stock
Me: laughs in bedrock
Lol
Skeletons are hell in that version.
@@renaultft1917 i play on mobile and I cant get close to them without a shield cuz they shoot about 2 arrows every freaking second
@@clarencelol4921 now you know what my men have been dealing with
@@renaultft1917 ive known for a long time, been playing since 0.9.0 :)
3 years later, and this video is still relevant, maybe even more so.
- We got a cave update, but other than making the caves look somewhat different, it still added no new depth to the game.
- Diamonds are easier to find while exploring which is good, as strip mining was boring. But diamonds are no longer the rarest resource, netherite is, and what is the best way to find netherite? Strip mining.
- The world depth was doubled, and yet for no reason. The caves look the same no matter how deep you are.
- Structures which are fun to explore the first time, get repetitive real quick. Villages, temples, bastions, all of these look the same in every world, every time, which takes away from the players building their own structures, and makes exploration boring.
- After the cave update, it seems like we're back to just getting a couple new mobs and blocks a year, which is leading to people losing interest once again.
- Sleeping and phantoms are still the same, and instead of listening to the community, Mojang makes fun of them by literally joking about how much everyone hates them.
- Mob votes only add a single new mob despite modders being able to add all three in a couple hours.
- The wither is still useless, 10 years after being added.
I actually don't mind Minecraft the way it is too much. Sure, it can be frustrating that features are added and changed at a glacial pace but then all you have to do is play a modpack. Actually, now that I think about it, if Minecraft updated too often modders would have a hellish time keeping their mods up to date.
@@darkpal1339 That’s actually a good point. Back in the day you always had to downgrade if you wanted mods cause new versions would come out every month. Nowadays you can find a decent selection for the current version
my point isnt contradicting yours and video's, but i just want to estimate how hard is it to keep balance (and arguably half of even later major additions are balanced poorly for competent players).
but how to change minecraft in current state for it to "challenge" survival skills? game is too far into these "do whatever you want", so mojang (while not rewriting whole game for 10 years):
can't really downgrade these op items that make game way easier, it will sit community even more than 1.9, can't really harden them
can't really add new Harder mobs because mobs mustn't have active building/destroying abilities so if they add one (warden for instance) it gets really easy to abuse in "lategame". new dungeons - same - just because player can mine and build, dungeon is useless (worth 10-20 minutes of mining) or op, almost never they can treat fair challenge (yet again because of building).
most of criticisms to survival (at least which i've thought off) are just pure easiness off accomplishing endgame, killing wither, elytra etc. it's easy mostly for players who completed game multiple times (or spent equivalent time in game), but this dedicated fanbase is also very split, and it's hard to satisfy more than half of them at once with huge updates. how much survival players use lighting blocks, creative players use swords, anybody uses beetroot or berrys? most of the time, if something gets added, it gets op (might replace old item) or it gets natural (another type of wood - not useful not useless) or gets underpowered compared to old items.
i hope my point wasn't completely unclear.
@@licemere9899 I can see your point. Knowing the minecraft community, any change or addition needs to be extremely well thought out. Otherwise, people would be able to find 100 ways to abuse something like berries for world domination, instead of the usual 10 or 20 ways.
@@darkpal1339 wouldn’t have that issue if backwards mod compatibility was a thing
Everyone: *wants cave update*
Mojang: "How about another combat update?"
A combat update IS needed, but not urgently. There is no doubt in that. Post 1.8.9, Minecraft PvP became boring and dull, not giving the same adrenaline it used to. Regeneration items are too strong. Damage invulnerability frames are too long. You can get my point.
in my opinion combat update could potentailly mean they're making the mobs stronger which could enhance the survival experience
Flamingpaper not everyone wants a cave update. The amount of people who want it compared to the total community is extremely small.
i'd like some harder enemies (rarer also) for all dimensions tbh
That was an experimental combat test, NOT a snapshot or update. From Sliced Lime (Mojang dev) ruclips.net/video/DNLa4v7sB_U/видео.html
Because of this video the cave update has been pushed back 5 more years
Holy hell it's been forever since I've seen a comment from you.
You don’t deserve that fame.
It's 2020 now, and I can't believe I said all that stuff. Sorry for that, I should delete the other comments.
@@shagarakar People just like what he says. With that logic no comedians, talk show hosts or even RUclipsrs should be famous either. SMH
Justin Y. Welcome back
bill ceephee true tho
I like how almost all of his critiques have or will be relatively fixed by the updates this year and last
It's like Mojang watched the video lol
@@DyoKasparov lol that's true
@@DyoKasparov actually the devs said that they watch alot of minecraft videos/streams etc wich are about updating the game.
you can search it up on twitter I think kingbdogz tweeted about it
@@helix1499 thats awesome if true lol
main reason why minecraft updates so slow is due to its community. full of children and ppl with autism. children usually don't ask for many things and they don't think critically about things.
The greatest thing is that Mojang is practically copying these suggestions.
We need:
- Stronger/harder to kill mobs
- New bosses
- Cave update
Im just gonna play terraria, it already has all that
@@brandonezdoofenshmirtz2916 in 3D
Most importantly a nether update
What's cave update?
Not a strong enemy/harder to kil boss, what we need is a boss or mob that requires you to use your brain instead of spaming sword like we've got right now but they need to improve the fight mechanics or add new weapons before they add new enemies, it's just dumb right now.
"under water dungeons are a challenge and needs some prep to finish"
Pewds- DOOOOOOOOOOOORS!
SenileKappa this was a good plan
What is your profile image from?
- B A S E K U U - I drew it. It’s android 18 from dbz ahegao face
I remember I attempted to do the doors strategy and it didn't work for me I must be using a different edition of minecraft where they got rid of that feature
hjnjd only java has that
21:06 Wow this pickaxe is really good, what should I name it?
*G o d*
god the pickaxe
God’s Pickaxe
Zeu’s trident
Satan’s sword
Thor’s axe
Poseidon’s shovel
Link’s crossbow
Hylia’s shield
*Poor mans hoe*
I'd love to hear his input after The Caves and Cliffs Update
Still no reaction..
@@MilkIsTheOne after the full Caves & Cliffs update (1.18) releases, this video will basically be outdated.... He would NEED to make a new critique... let’s blow up his comment section when the time comes, because I want to see what he thinks about the warden and DIAMONDS BEING TOPPED??!!
@@nocturnaliism yeah the caves and cliffs update sucked and basically added jack lol
"Dual wielding, which only half works" This line cracked me up
"Back in my day we never had villages to sleep in."
B o o m e r
Back in my day, we had pigs as villagers
back in my day, you used to have to send a paypal to notch to get the game
@@ok-tq7nt I remember that
Back then, cave game. Sit all of you asses down nee
Highly recommend anyone and everyone tries the oldest and most relevant mod for minecraft: Better Than Wolves.
Literally EVERYTHING Whitelight touched on regarding lack of direction, meaning and goals (and difficulty) is totally and utterly fixed with this mod. The author is still working on it nearly a decade later and if I recall correctly, he's actually an ex-video game industry professional.
I am really glad to see minecraft working exactly on the issues mentioned here. First the nether and netherite that took "rarest material" crown from diamond and now we're getting the caves and cliffs updates with more depth and more danger.
Withers aren't pointless. It gives you a Nether star to craft a beacon.
wait
That’s not necessarily useless though cuz Haste II and max level beacons are great for mining and building
@@zenithjarrett329 mining within a very specific radius of the beacon. So, not that useful in that regard. Building? Possibly. But only if you have extended the radius of the beacon a bit, which is extremely expensive.
*tHaT’s LiTeRaLlY tHe PoInT pEpEgA*
@@Phychologik wut
check out sarcs vid on beacons, this is what they should have been like (perhaps with the exception of multiplayer focused buffs) but nah, Mojang is lazy and wants to do the bare minimum per update ruclips.net/video/PAnPfRUWAGM/видео.html
Well... I kinda want that Terraria critique now...
gotta wait till the final update
Yes yes yes!
What's to critique?
@@arandomfox999
I'm confused by this statement.
A critique isn't necessariy negative.
@@arenkai that's an implication you've made yourself. I simply meant there's not a whole lot that they could improve on, so a critique of any form will be difficult and quite brief. The worst the game can get is complaints about its nature by people that don't realise it's just not their cup of tea.
Well boys the cave update is coming now
Is it more than just big caves and new ores? Would like some new structures to clear with that
@@supergenius6256 I heard something about a minecraft dev wanting to add a new dungeon in one of the cave biomes, don’t remember the source, sorry :)
@@nocturnaliism ain't valid to me without a source
@@supergenius6256 *You have gained my respect sir*
that's a common misconception that always gets on my nerves: titanium is significantly lighter than steel, it should weight you down less, if anything. in fact, titanium has the highest strength-to-weight ratio of all known metals.
I think the game could also benefit from world generation update. Just look at the mod Biome Bundle, which makes biomes so visually pleasing that they immediately incites creativity, and all without the need of adding new blocks.
Yes.
Or just add an option to generate landscapes like in Minecraft Alpha
Or Terraforged. The landscape generation of that one is absolutely stunning. Although I am also nostalgic for the pre beta 1.8 generation algorithm.
Biomes O' Plenty is a great one. Keeps the feel of vanilla MineCraft with gorgeous biomes.
The build height needs to be doubled as well. The world is too narrow.
The Community: Hey Mojang! How about a cave up-
Mojang: *BEES*
The Community: Yeah sure, but how about an Aether and some more mob-
Mojang: *B U G S*
nether update
I think Mojang is mostly focus on new and youngers player and that may kill their fame and ruin their career because they don’t make any offer to keep their existed players..
@@bubblepopgrm 1 your name is cool
2 i dont think this is wrong but not right too (i think this has a great change of being true too) so i dont know if it is what you are saying or not
3 i dont care about cave update for me this is bullshit
@@bubblepopgrm What gives you that impression?
Cauã GamerTS it’s an opinion so u don’t have to agree but think about it... since Microsoft bought Minecraft they started advertising Minecraft more and they added the recipes book on the crafting table it’s so obvious that they are trying to get new players to the game.. i was so shook when i went back and played the game after years (after microsoft bought the game) and the new update is kinda weird (yes they are fun and add new things) but still feels like they made it for kids to play minecraft
“Diamonds always have to be the rarest resource”
*well that didn’t age well*
Again Terraria is perfect in this sense there is a 4 final armors and there is actual difficulty getting to that point
@@user-zv8qg1co4z it also doesn't burn in lava, you know... where most of the new content is
@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 "it doesn't burn in lava" but so does literally everything else.
*Laughs in fire resistance potions*
Ancient debris is such a waste of time just to get gear and tools that aren't very special and it looks like a replacement of diamond not an upgrade.
@@urnix69 i mean you will eventually run out and that is the reason they exist...
I'd love to see a 2022 updated version of this, seeing how much the game has changed. Very well made video, too!
I will literally cry when mojang releases the cave update
if. theyve had 10 years and the game still barely has any content. we might have some hope with the nether update but even that is pretty small. end cities are pretty small too. cave update would have to be huge and mojang has a bad track record
who cares just wait for Hytale to come out
@@awesome7732 Well Mojang decided to do the Nether Update first because at the time it was the most trendy update idea from the feedback site. And since the Cave Update had been trendy after the Nether Update we could see it happen.
@@WinglessPhoenix but it shouldnt have taken them several years to do this is my point
@@awesome7732 True but at least they are stepping up. The only thing we need is more content in the updates that the community wants.
My god, that crusty old cobble texture.
Almost brings a tear to my eye...
Incessant Sand
Lack of hunger bar too
@@AJ-zs7xz And no sprinting.
Back in the day you could actually know where the west (I think) was just by looking at its texture
@Phalanx you fuckin youngin i played it the 2nd year after it came out
@@rust_guyy you fuckin youngins i've been here since the yogscast
Would love to see an update on this. A lot of the things he talks about have been affected with changes. For better or worse.
2:30
Mining dirt with a wooden pickaxe
Where freedom?
"We want more uses for rare materials like Ender Dragon Eggs and Wither Stars"
"Here's a new texture for everything"
lmao true
I mean the texture is good
@@tuxedocatsocks8668 its good but its now what we want
@@tuxedocatsocks8668 the textures look like the ones from those ripoff games that try to be realistic but in doing so fail to capture the charm of the original that made it unique. it's reached the level of self-parody and i hate it
Ender dragon eggs have a unique use. Removing bedrock,
Ok. Those 520 something days of developpement didn't seem to yield a lot. It's because Mojang was rewritting / restructuring massive chunks of their kinda clumsy code, something very tedious and mostly not noticeable from the end user perspective. This rewrite made the next round of development way faster and more efficient. That's why 1.13 and 1.14 had so much added is so little time.
Well that helps put things into perspective. I'm glad it made things more efficient. But they didn't stop the technical difficulties with 1.13 and 1.14, its super hard for servers and stuff which is really annoying
You know, when a game skyrockets the way Minecraft did, waiting for that long for ANY reason is not okay, and isn't excusable. Certainly not with the money they were making.
Mátyás Fodor yeah it is...? Most games make you pay for updates, I don’t blame mojang for taking a long time
I agree. But the more stuff you add to a game / program / app, the more ressources it takes on the hardware side. Especially a game like Minecraft, where everything is in a single tick-loop ran on mostly one single thread. And the hardware manufacturers don't focus on single thread right now. In a sense, Minecraft is a game for the future.
@@spotsies You aren't entitled to free updates
me watching this 4 years later realising bro predticted the future
he didn't predict anything mojang seen this video and got a lightbulb lol
The name “Survival” is one of the most misleading game mode titles in gaming history. How does this feel like survival when you can spend 20 minutes mining iron many blocks below most dangers, and once you come out with an iron toolset and armor, the mobs crumple into nothingness like wet tissue paper. Even the most annoying mob in the game, the skeleton, has no idea how to react when presented with a shield. A shield costs ONE IRON INGOT. Survival is not survival. It’s Creative on hard difficulty, a game mode that makes being able to be creative more rewarding because of how much you have to work to express that creativity. It’s not hard because the game’s mobs are threatening, it’s hard because a stone pickaxe doesn’t insta-mine. I don’t think the game’s newest updates are bad. They’re adding new content to the game. But sometimes I feel like they’re focusing only on one of Minecraft’s components. It’s a sandbox game with building, mining, exploration, combat, and bosses. They’ve updated exploration and combat very well. While some changes might’ve been unnecessary, such as 1.9’s overhaul of combat which no one asked for, they weren’t objectively bad updates. They still added a new layer to the game. But when those layers start burying some of Minecraft’s other fundamental features that make it fun, such as mining and the sandbox element, I feel as though Minecraft’s magic and happy mix of all great things with gaming, suddenly begins to abdicate and head into the distance. I hope Mojang’s great zeal and 1.17 makes this game great again.
Minecraft is evolving. The old feeling of Minecraft can’t justify a reason to play anymore, unless nostalgia is a required function, which sometimes holds games back from expressing their potential. I look forward to seeing the future.
Well don’t forget. Minecraft isn’t just about challenge. it’s also about sandbox, collecting resources, building, getting stronger. Minecraft doesn’t make any of these it’s core component, but mixes them all together to make a perfect mixture
This is why we need a cave update, am I right?
Lol
Maybe Mojang hid the cave update in Area 51 along with them aliens.
Virgin1008 A space and cave update 0.0 !?!
Area 51 hid Minecraft 2 with Half-Life 3
absolutely
*Hopefully*
The spike in Minecraft's popularity will push Mojang to make the game better more frequently
Why? Everyone already has a copy of minecraft
Play modpacks
Hero Slippy Because Minecraft has everything.
Duchi we need notch back
@@heroslippy6666 A lot of people use cracked launchers.
It’s so weird that he says diamonds always have to be the rarest and at the time that seemed so true and yet here we are. I wonder what other core ideas we have that Mojang might turn on our heads
I feel like at it's core, Minecraft used to be a blank slate for players to express their creativity. Now it has become a place to explore Mojang's creativity. All the reasons to build things yourself are gone. Instead, you are encouraged to explore the pre-generated structures made by Mojang. Things added in the latest updates don't give the player more freedom, they simply add content
Exactly. The Minecraft world is about what you do to it, not what it's like already. Other games do the latter way better than Minecraft anyway, it's never going to win on that front.
It you want a game about building for purpose and still have the freedom of Minecraft play vintage story
There isn't enough variety in structures but the existing structures are too common
@@shrub8644 I feel theres too much variety in some cases. Villages are the most guilty party here. While yes I despise how common shipwrecks and ocean ruins are and they definitely need to be toned back GREATLY villages are no longer special. They make it easier to survive in the game. And are now more of a hinderance or mild convenience now. Villages used to be limited to 3 biomes, the plains, desert, and taiga. Now they are in all biomes and thus have become more abundant due to its variety. Where the player used to live in isolation, making their own world and surviving on what they themselves made, finding a village was a MAJOR deal! Now thats not the case. I feal variety needs to come in the form of small to mid size, rare, biome specific structures like the igloo and the desert temple and the jungle temple as those aren’t easy to find but when you find them make you wonder and make you want to turn it into your own. Minecraft is a survival game first and while yes it is all these other things, exploration, building, combat, redstone, farming, those other things are made better and more fulfilling because the player survived well enough to do those things it wanted to do. It makes the poem at the end of the game much more impactful because the player DID survive and didn’t give up and learned so much from their own little world and made their own little stories. What mojang does is try and “give the players their own unique stories.” Why? Why give it to the players when we’ve been doing it ourselves for years now. All thats been added is clutter within our own stories. That just advance the plotline in a boring and almost samey fashion as everyone’s stories now include finding diamonds or iron or a treasure map in one to five sunken ships. Everyones story involves finding and raiding a village. Everyone’s stories involve stumbling upon a piglin bastion or pillager outpost. But how many stories go without a jungle temple? Without a desert temple? Igloos, woodland mansions, ocean monuments, desert wells, witch huts. How many stories can say they made a castle anymore? The lack of survival and the abundance of “given story” is the root of what makes minecraft in modern day so boring to many. Theres nothing to work towards in every world because you can defeat the boss of the game in less than half an hour. And normal mobs are no issue since beds are so readily available. And I don’t see any of this changing because mojang don’t hear this idea from the community and think it’s rational. They think its just more hate on what they’ve created when its truly just critique. Regardless this conversation is months old so im rather late but theres my two - three cents in it.
(Side note not criticism) The reason why 1.9 specifically took so long, was because during that time Mojang was being bought by Microsoft. Just 1.9 though.
wanted to post the same
when I saw that 1.9 was out I had just got back into minecraft after a 6 month break from it, lets just say that I went right the fuck back to 1.8
@@ragingmex5442 So what made you go back to 1.8, the combat system?
Thats not true, if i recall minecraft was already bought by microsoft when 1.8 came out
@@mountoakbaranovskii4545 No, they were in the process of being bought, but at that point had finished making the bountiful update. The development of 1.9 however was at the same time as the transfer, so they weren't able to spend much time on it, ergo it took a while.
Mojang really need to address how the only cave structures are the almost completely useless and hilariously outdated Mineshafts, the dungeons, piss easy barren rooms that are basically just free xp farms, and the Stonghold, somewhere you take all the books from and then put a nether portal in one room.
Give us more subterranean diversity.
Underground biomes, yes! I want to be able to basically find Blackreach in Minecraft.
Minecraft cave update
Caverns (big, tall caves) limestone stalagmites and stalagmites for realistic caves, pillager mineshafts... there are so many possibilities
1.15 is combat rework, 1.16 is very likely to be cave update
@@ExHyperion what about combat and cobalt?... heard thats a posibility... most likely the 1.15 update wont be just some little changes to the combat system... they will definitely add something more...i hope we get improved caves and dungeons...
wow 2019 is already 4 years ago...
2024 will go by in a blink of an
It’s nice to look back at this video, and see how Mojang really listened to the community about things like this.
huh?? it's only gotten worse
But they didn't.
Mojang haven't acted at _all_ on his critique about the lack of intrinsic motivation.
They just keep adding cosmetics and decoration every update. Case in points: Copper, Amethyst, The scarce Deep Dark Loot that's actually unique (being the death compass thing), the underground biomes themselves, and most of 1.19 and 1.20 if not all have not served any serious changes to the game. They are all just "existing to look pretty" features, rather than "Wow this actually does a thing that can inspire me to do more, greater things"
Minecraft has a long way to go.
@@johnwest6690 Very well said.
@@johnwest6690 I prefer beta for all of these reasons.
😂
“What separates your 1st mining session from your 3000th”
Ilmango: hold my redstone juice
Ilmango: mining? I'm sure you meant going to the super compact 100000 items per second all items farm.
@@nicholaschung2442 Mining? I dont have time for that. So I built a quarry wich mines for me.
Yeah but finding diamonds never gets old. You can find 1,000,000 diamonds and the next diamond you find will give the same joy as finding the first diamond
@@r4ccy_ maybe for you, but for most people, no. Diamond is just another step towards the more intresting things in the game
Since you can put mending on everything including pickaxes, I don't really search for diamonds anymore. I have a few stacks of diamond blocks on my singleplayer world. Same for Iron farms.
i remember the day they removed the ‘oof’ damage sound effect...
my younger self thought this was some kind of glitch...
ah, the good old days
I personally believe it is more an "Urgh" sound. "Oof" is Roblox 😹
Bwans_Art
Hmm I agree
I remember the day they fixed fall damage for multiplayer.
So many people died that day.
the good ol days of falling off a mountain and youd hear "oof" instead of
[bone crunching splat noise]
Best sound effect from the game don't @ me
this whole critic, two years later, when the new cave update is around the corner and now the warden will be added in the next one is getting everyone excited, its like everything is coming together again kkk
I feel like your main point is there, but some nitpicks are:
A: Ocean monument's rewards is sponges for making underwater bases much easier.
B: Beacons encourage finding a place to settle and try building a large base around it.
And woodland mansions reward, along with the many, many blocks, are totems of undying. I feel like he only looked at the shiny stuff at stopped at that
@@aguyontheinternet8436 and you can get way more totems of undying by doing a SINGLE raid
@@savary5050 So what? For three years you couldn't get totems any other way. Then 3 years ago 1.14 was released, and the totems were made obsolete. It's still a cool structure with lots and lots of loot, even if you can get it somewhere else. Now, three years later, woodland mansions are now the best way to get a lot of allays and some totems.
Sponges aren't a very good reward for fighting your way through an entire dungeon and killing three minibosses, not to mention how obsolete they are now with the existence of the Conduit. Okay, Beacons encourage you to settle down. And? You're already heavily encouraged to do that seeing as you can't really move farms around or more than a chestful of stuff very freely. The game anchors you to one place, and honestly it's kinda worse for it, so the Beacon just does not help.
@@PoisonFlower765 Your issue is that you expect some sort of "Big Reward" as a way to give you motivation. If your only motivation is to get a "cool item" or something, you're playing minecraft wrong.
"Terraria is about dominating ever-increasing levels of evil through overwhelming power."
I think overwhelming is an understatement in late game
Yea but vultist us pretty hard and maybe moonlord and plantera... WAIT DUKE FISHRON
This is even more true in the new master mode
*zenith noises in background*
*laughs in stardust terraprisma*
lol it used to be hard but now that I'm on my billionth play through its not so hard
To be fair, in the old versions of minecraft you could just dig a hole, jump in and then cover it up the first night
Exactly you would have to wait in the hole for the whole night
You could probably still do this
But then you'd have nothing to do for five minutes, and anyone with a brain would spend those five minutes mining instead, as the devs want you to.
Not being a building enthusiast myself, my first day of Minecraft always resembled: find the nearest natural cave opening to spawn, put a torch in it, block the entrance, tada I'm home now, start caving.
I pretty much never used beds in the first place and "survival" wasn't ever really a challenge outside of marathon caving runs. I have to admit most of this video sounded kinda...comical, in that respect. Sure, people built extravagantly defended fortress homes! ...that they didn't need. There was nothing in the game that required those defenses to defend against. You could literally put a fence around your house, put torches inside the fence, and you're done, you've defended your house. Anything past that isn't a survival defense mechanism; it's just style points for people who enjoy building those kinds of defenses. Which you can still do now, and is still just as unnecessary as it was then.
But that's the point of new things.
me watching this now and realizing he literally just foreshadowed the caves and cliffs update
Bruh he predicted the height limit increase and the depth limit increase.
14:48
Lol
Or maybe Mojang saw the video
@@fobdey6564 if they did then better start brainstorming some new bosses and dungeons. I am starved of mid-late game areas.
Terraria is a progression game with sandbox elements, Minecraft is a sandbox game with progression elements.
Agreed to the point but Minecraft survival can have infintite progression if you are determined enough.
source:Etho's lab mincraft let's plays
@@MachStarry of course, but in terraria progression plays a more central role and the core game is fairly linear though with some optional order and boss skips for advanced players, then it also has some sandbox elements, but much is locked behind the normal progression of the game. Minecraft doesn't have linear progression like that and you can shoot straight towards any goal you choose, so it's primarily a sandbox type game.
I think we're talking about different kinds of progression :) Terraria is full of walls, primarily bosses, that you must defeat to unlock content that is mandatory for nearly any goal you have in mind. In minecraft you can start your projects in almost any order without such obstacles.
@@BenCarnage it could also be because Terraria has no creative mode which minecraft has thats why you cant progress on your own pace.
@@BenCarnage Well said.
That's why they advertise each other and the reason they're friends.
Minecraft title screen:"Also play Terraria"
Terraria: "Also play Minecraft"
Only the real ones remember BandiCam and Unregistered HyperCam 2 in let’s plays and Walkthroughs
Micheal P wants to know your location
Ahh I miss seeing Bandicamcom (or something like that) on top of every noob video lol
The PissedOffOwl vets remember FRAPS.com
Yeah lmao
As a former minecraft lets player, this is true
Part of the video remains true, even if they added netherite. The recent snapshot of the trim templates takes the game to a purely cosmetics direction. I do believe that templates do help to expand on a previously limited function of the game, though this cosmetic feature is, worrying. What I'd like to do with the templates is expand the upgrade/sidegrade content to the uncommon items like shields, turtle helmets, tridents, etc, using the materials that would end up being unused in both single and multiplayer runs, like obsidian, amethyst, copper, prismarine, heart of the sea, etc. There's also the unaddressed issue of exploring and no rare loot/non-applicability to the current loot for whatever goal you have in exploring .
I think that a way to fix the problem of beds is to make beds harder to craft, maybe requiring a pillow and sheet made of 5 wool in total, then the 3 wood planks. Also, phantoms can start hunting players for sleeping in beds for 5 or more nights in a row instead of not sleeping in a bed for 3 nights in a row.
This might be the worst minecraft suggestion I have ever seen in my life. Congratulations commenter!
This is how u make everyone who plays in the newer versions into a living hell
How to survive in Minecraft:
Step 1: dig a hole
First night goals tbh
Ry Guy you can’t starve to death on normal
Diggy diggy hole
@Ry Guy you barely lose hunger when you stand still doing nothing
But don’t dig too deep a hole. Remember the First Rule.
“Takes about 5 minutes to mine your way down to 12 and start stripping”
“Don’t let Lionmaker hear you, though”
im ded
Jesus christ it took me a second
"Mojnag punishes you for not using beds by phantoms."
Fanbase who literally voted them into the game: nervous sweating.
At the time, the fanbase didn't see how it was going to be executed and it was very cool concept. There was also the fact that they didn't mention the theme before the mob vote which is a shame because if they knew it was an ocean update, they all would've chosen that "monster of the sea". Quite disappointing.
@@urnix69 True
@@urnix69 Plus phantom was the most worst looking and the most uninteresting mod in the mob vote.
@@qzimyion Well it wasn't for the majority of the community until it came out.
@@urnix69 true
Rare loot in minecraft should really really reallllyy be explored more. They already have good one which is the God Apple, everybody actually goes crazy to get a god apple
it's worth saying that minecraft's redstone system can be used for automation of gathering resources you need, imo that's what minecraft's real endgame is, optimising gathering of resources so you can manipulate the world into whatever you want it to be
when i first started i wanted nothing to do with it, now i have a giant underground fortress that i've painstakingly decorated and i've automated systems for almost every resource. it's so rewarding to work out how to make an automatic farm or a mob crusher for yourself i love it
minecraft being the real realistic game here
Sci-craft in a nutshell
Bruh
This
“What are you meant to do with 8 gold blocks?” Well you make a god ap- ohh... oh yeah..
what's the problem with golden apple ?
you cant craft them anymore
@@yeawhatever1495 there used to be a better golden apple called an enchanted golden apple. It was amazingly strong, but you needed to use gold blocks to craft it instead of ingots.
*god apple has left the chat*
@@patrickgardner2204 It's gone now?! Where have I been all this time...
If anyone is watching this years later and is aching for that true survival experience, please, please, please play vintage story. That game is like if you time traveled to the alternate dimension where minecraft leaned into it's survival elements.
YES I just found it a month ago and I love it.
(This was originally a reply to one of the comments here (Retsila47), but as I wrote it it ended up expanding beyond that scope, so I'm putting it up seperately.)
I feel like the changes that should have been made to Minecraft should have stuck closer with the original creator's (Notch) view of the game: inspired by 3D cellular automata and with a huge focus on emergent compexity. The world has its rules, and you as the player are given free agency to manipulate the world and experiment with those rules. Before the adventure update, Minecraft was steadily pacing forwards by adding new ways of manipulating the world: redstone, pistons... things like those completely expanded the scope of the game.
Nowadays, though, Minecraft's development has shifted. Instead of adding things that expand the scope and potential of the game, they focus instead on just adding content that seems arbitrary and probably decided upon by a whim because it sounded "cool", and anything that actually expands gameplay seems more like an afterthought or even accidental. It's all so artificial and at times it even feels frustratingly limiting, and being constantly aware of that wasted potential is one part of the reason why I quit Minecraft.
The other reason I quit is because Minecraft is a geniunely shitty game, and I say this from the perspective of someone who loved it for many years, who played it constantly every day I came home from school when I was younger. Minecraft at its core is terrible, and the only thing that makes it good is the backbone of the community around it. Tell me, how long can you last in vanilla singleplayer? How many mob grinders can you make, how many cool redstone pistons doors, how many biomes can you explore, how many blocks can you tunnel, how many diamonds can you mine, how many awesome, magnificent, silent, empty megastructures can you create before you start to wonder the point of it all? Before you encounter the limits of the game as it is? Before you reach out to the community, to install mods, an adventure map, or even to find a multiplayer server you can call home? But... eventually mods and maps become outdated, and the friends you've made in servers slowly move on, one by one, until once again you are in silent, empty world. Until even that too fades one day when the host decides to pull the plug.
And so where does that leave you then? Do you become a nomad who wanders from server to server, embracing the impermanent nature of things and doing as you please; a griefer, perhaps? Perhaps you finally quit, then and there, relinquishing the dearness of the game to your heart and moving on to another hobby. Or maybe you don't give up, maybe you scour the internet, searching for some sort of thing, some sort of place that denies this inevitability. Something has to exist, right? And then you find it.
"2b2t, the oldest vanilla anarchy server in Minecraft."
Everything else may be fleeting, but 2b2t stands in defiance to this. It is a monolith that has existed and will exist for as long as Minecraft does, because it _is_ Minecraft. Without the community, without the mods, without governance. It's just the players and the game as the devs created it. And it's a miserable, deplorable, amazing, timeless hellhole. The spawn is destroyed for thousands of blocks around. Players claw for every single little edge they can get, cracking the game open with hacks and exploits just to get an advantage. On 2b2t, if it's a bug, it's a feature, and quite possibly the only optimal play strategy. Combat between two veteran players is a slog, except when they're trying their hardest to see who can ender crystal the other to death first. Since in Minecraft, players are basically wandering gods, the only way to keep your bases and stuff safe while you're offline is to travel thousands, no... millions if not billions of blocks from spawn. This is the meta for Minecraft, and it is completely fucked, and getting burned out from the sheer effort required to stay on top of it was what finally made me stop playing.
However, I will say this. If you hopped on 2b2t, survived the spawn, and ventured out into the wilderness, you wouldn't find any woodland mansions, or villages, or pig bastions or whatever. At least not for a very long while. What you would find though, are procedurally-generated structures and ruins, each far more unique than anything the devs have put in the game. Heck, they don't even look like ruins, not a hint of cracked or mossy stone brick in sight. But they are procedurally generated, proceedurally generated by the hundreds and thousands of players who have travelled this world and left their mark on it in some way or another, whether creative or destructive. Maybe one day, someone will stumble across a mark you've made, and wonder about the person who.made it. Or they could walk right past, or bulldoze it, or claim it as their own. Because 2b2t isn't one of those graveyards of a dead server destined to fade away silently. It's alive, living and breathing and constantly changing, and I wish the devs would look to it more so that they could see the game they've actually created, and maybe, just maybe, so that they can realize the potential Minecraft actually has.
Wow..
What a document.
How much time that take?
The changes are not arbitrary - they are done as they are because jeb_ has decided Minecraft has to be a medieval fantasy pseudo-RPG. That became apparent with Beta 1.8 (the Adventure Update) when jeb_ took over and they added potions and enchantments. A lot of technologically-oriented players dropped the game at that point.
Sure, Notch also wanted a RPG aspect of it, but why is it that the only type of RPG that exists in the West is medieval fantasy? The Japanese have shown that futuristic, technologically-oriented RPG's are possible, so Minecraft could keep the RPG elements but add technology without issues.
@@OBrasilo
Also updates bring a whole arsenal of items into minecraft.
@@OBrasilo And they haven't abadoned tech fully either, observer anyone?
@@TechBlade9000 I believe that was in 1.5, before Microsoft bought them. I believe that's when things changed.
*"It takes about five minutes to make your way down to twelve and start stripping, don't let Lionmaker hear that tho"*
Oh my god hahaha
That's what I do all the time. I'm rich baby
I thought I was the only one that noticed that joke..
If you dont know who Lionmaker is, you probably play fortnite. Not that I watch him, just knew him from the allegations
@Speedy Racer 4 yeah I know
Bro, me and my sis watched every single lionmaker video, thought he was a nice guy, until he left, then got exposed for being a pedophile. Sad times, but i hate lionmaker now 😠
One day, you will place your last Minecraft block without knowing
I want this game to be alive as much as it could though
Is this a threat
Flame Vell I know it because it will be the day I die. Yes you might say " I can't predict death" simple answer, suicide.
@@burntpercentage609 funny man
Thats kinda sad
AlsusGaming is it though. It's quite beautiful in a way. I will know the last things I do. ( if I actually committed suicide) I would know he last time I saw my parents, the last time I pet my dog, the last glass of water that enters my system, the last song I listen to. I'll know more of it than a lot of other people. I don't actually plan to commit suicide. But in a way in a cruel world that's ending soon, it's becoming more of an option.
I wish my friends would come back to minecraft, they are gone, gone to play league of legends, or call of duty, or they have left gaming all together,
I just want to spend a day building with them, i can't find anyone new to play this game together, and I'm not good at any games beyond this and the fighting game genre (and the fighting game genre is not really good for finding friends)
The focus of minecraft has shifted from building to survival to exploration
yeah thats cool and all but we're getting snowier snow so im appeased
dont forget about frogs in a later update
true
Lets just hope they make mountains ACTUALLY mountainous, and dangerous to traverse.
“snowier snow”
Turbo Virgin I mean there is amplified
"Diamonds *always* have to be the rarest resource."
Emeralds: Am I a joke to you?
honestly emeralds are not hard to get because of villagers, and even in mining there's not much point in going for them, as they're only used for trading (and technically beacons, if you really want to go that painful, grindy, horrid extra mile just to have an emerald block beacon pyramid.)
Wither skeleton skulls: am I a joke to you?
emeralds are much more easily aquired, just not through mining
Emerald ore is super common, in bedrock anyway
@@commonbook ummmm who the FRIG uses bedrock edition
Well at least we’re getting the cave and overworld update now