Oftentimes people are too stuck up on manualing with alice but they don't realize they're losing damage and it's sometimes better >for them< to just let alice attack herself during her burst and you control someone else during that time. Also I say 98.88 but like I mentioned in the video the 98.73 combo was possible so maybe the real minimum might actually be 98.74 but it's impossible with just Alice OLs alone (maybe mixed with other buffers would hit that). To simplify it, 99% would probably make it easier to tell to everyone (or as long as you have more than 7% charge speed from OLs total). I just say 98.88% because that was our old calculation back then in the old video and this is just a follow up from it and we did have another magic combo (3.16+3.75) that it was possible and less than the value we had calculated previously and this was recently discovered (thank you mr Konto). I'm currently away for vacation in mapleland and I've set these videos up ahead of time for y'all to enjoy while I'm out. I'll be back by the end so be sure to follow me on twitch and subscribe youtube. There's more videos coming up. www.twitch.tv/skyjlv/
Bro my luck sucks... I have 1 line of charge speed on my Alice and I've been rerolling her gears like for a year now without getting a single CS line wasted like more then 300 crystal or something...
I started to let alice auto during burst and my damage increased a little bit, i was too inconsistent. My Alice overloads are kinda copium right now, so maybe when i get some better roles i will try to learn her timing better.
My OL rolls are still bad so I use Alice with crown and privaty to mitigate the lack of max ammo lines. Nearly instant just need a few more skill ranks
I'm always switching to my Sakura when Alice bursts because I know I'm not as fast and accurate as the game would be. Turns out I was statistically right about that 😅
So 98.88 minus Alice Skill1 and Burst maxed at level 10 (11.67 + 80.15), means you actually need a total of 7.06+ on the combined two lines of Charge Speed. Am I right @skyjlv ?
Yep. There's also that one combination 3.16+3.75 that's also valid which is equal to 98.73% (But NOT 2.28+4.63)... 98.74% might be more accurate or 99% is easier to remember (there's no other OL combination that results between 98.74% and 99% and with how different devices work, there might be some inaccuracies anyways). 98.88% was just a theoretical calculation Konto did longg time ago (last year) after doing some testing and calculations from the data we had a while ago. It was only until recently Konto found that one magic combination that was below the 99% that was also valid after being able to test different Alice OL combinations. Only took 1.5years to find it lol.
Thanks for the video really helpful. But my only question is, is it really a huge dps los if we use the CS cube to help reach the minimum CS%. Isntead of the the other more useful ones
me who is not on end game currently having 1 atk 2 ele 2 cs and 2 ammo on my alice with almost one roll each equipment .. i guess im fine for instance, so now i will just make other units better 😁
You want both ATK & Ele. If you're a tryhard, the optimal combination is two pieces of gear with ATK, Ele, CS (adding up to around 7%) and two pieces of gear with ATK, Ele, MA.
@@zenspeed404 I've got 3ATK 3ELE 4MA and 2CS (7% above) right now, just not sure whether it's worth rolling the ELE for ATK to 4ATK and 2ELE instead and I've got high roll for 3MA (77, 73²) not sure the other 4th MA with 56 is needed(if not maybe I'm thinking whether it's better to roll ATK or ELE)
Can you not just do 100% charge speed? To get frame 1 Like having 3 cs lines i know its not optimal but i cant be investing all my rocks into alice i got other units to build as well
i just say 98.88 but it means minimum of 98.88% (theoretical %) (technically 98.73% with the one CS overload combination), anything more is fine but not necessary
It's cheaper to get 2 lines of charge speed and reroll attributes than it is to get 3 cs lines. You only need 2 T7 lines of CS, which is relatively low value and easy to get
@@johnnydiep2122 i understand but my alice barely has any atck lines and elemental lines. I got ma and cs lines but i still need to build other units rather only having one god tier unit i havent been playing since day one so resources are limited. Pretty much i got unlucky and only have cs and ma lines and have been unlucky with the attk and ele lines so its an ok enough alice can be improved once i have other units built
So that why I dont see any different, my Alice previously have 3.75% + 3.16% after I re-roll again to get elemental, and do some reset to change 3.75% to 4%, I expenses a lot stone here lol, the 4%+ didn't appear earlier, you should just make this video earlier dude. I just feel like wasting my precious 20+ stone for reset 😢.
i wish we also knew this sooner. it didn't help that the other combination of the same amount didn't do the same thing (2.28+4.63). Some odd/weird rounding issue.
@@Gink01 OL just has a really weird rounding issue and calculations. Pushing it to 98.73 already is good anyways because if you think about it, it should've been 100% requirement but we've managed to push it down to 98.73X%. There's also the possibility of it has thousandths value that's not visible (3.156...etc)
@@skyjlv yeah, I agree, really weird, it just feel really bad after wasting a lot stone there. From the beginning, why not they just make Alice having 100% Charge speed by default whenever she bursting, forcing us to get extra charge speed really annoying and hard to build her, don't to mention to manually operate her 😂
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Oftentimes people are too stuck up on manualing with alice but they don't realize they're losing damage and it's sometimes better >for them< to just let alice attack herself during her burst and you control someone else during that time.
Also I say 98.88 but like I mentioned in the video the 98.73 combo was possible so maybe the real minimum might actually be 98.74 but it's impossible with just Alice OLs alone (maybe mixed with other buffers would hit that). To simplify it, 99% would probably make it easier to tell to everyone (or as long as you have more than 7% charge speed from OLs total). I just say 98.88% because that was our old calculation back then in the old video and this is just a follow up from it and we did have another magic combo (3.16+3.75) that it was possible and less than the value we had calculated previously and this was recently discovered (thank you mr Konto).
I'm currently away for vacation in mapleland and I've set these videos up ahead of time for y'all to enjoy while I'm out. I'll be back by the end so be sure to follow me on twitch and subscribe youtube. There's more videos coming up. www.twitch.tv/skyjlv/
Yeah. This is what i do most of the time. Manualing Alice when she's on cooldown or not bursting. And switch to manualing other SR when she's bursting
I also noticed that alice's damage is stronger if you just let her do it alone during FB.
@@zachrus same..wait whattt...does it mean i got "boomer hands"?
Thank you, Thank you, thank you very much. As a Mobile player any information about auto play can help, especially about ou beloved Alice!
Would love to hear about other units builds as well.
I can do around 32 shots on my phone. LES GO BOOIS!!!
Bro my luck sucks... I have 1 line of charge speed on my Alice and I've been rerolling her gears like for a year now without getting a single CS line wasted like more then 300 crystal or something...
I started to let alice auto during burst and my damage increased a little bit, i was too inconsistent. My Alice overloads are kinda copium right now, so maybe when i get some better roles i will try to learn her timing better.
My OL rolls are still bad so I use Alice with crown and privaty to mitigate the lack of max ammo lines. Nearly instant just need a few more skill ranks
I'm always switching to my Sakura when Alice bursts because I know I'm not as fast and accurate as the game would be.
Turns out I was statistically right about that 😅
hey man, so best team for alice?
So 98.88 minus Alice Skill1 and Burst maxed at level 10 (11.67 + 80.15), means you actually need a total of 7.06+ on the combined two lines of Charge Speed. Am I right @skyjlv ?
Yep. There's also that one combination 3.16+3.75 that's also valid which is equal to 98.73% (But NOT 2.28+4.63)... 98.74% might be more accurate or 99% is easier to remember (there's no other OL combination that results between 98.74% and 99% and with how different devices work, there might be some inaccuracies anyways). 98.88% was just a theoretical calculation Konto did longg time ago (last year) after doing some testing and calculations from the data we had a while ago. It was only until recently Konto found that one magic combination that was below the 99% that was also valid after being able to test different Alice OL combinations. Only took 1.5years to find it lol.
Bro I used so many rocks on Alice and the best I got is: 2 charge spd, 1 ammo, 2 atk and 3 elem. Low numbers too. RNG is rough.
nice guide> is snow white still good for solo raid and is her guide still up to date? i have her built but never was able to use her effectively
If you have 2MA, you prefer using Resilience over Bastion cube?
What is the best team now?
Thanks for the video really helpful. But my only question is, is it really a huge dps los if we use the CS cube to help reach the minimum CS%. Isntead of the the other more useful ones
Resilience/ Bastion is very important for Alice since you reload many times
Muy Alice in auto does 400M and manual 600M but i miss a few shots
Are u ganna make a rouge video?
Apparently I have 2 lines each, how would I go about the 3rd slots per gear piece, locking two per piece seem costly?
me who is not on end game currently having 1 atk 2 ele 2 cs and 2 ammo on my alice with almost one roll each equipment .. i guess im fine for instance, so now i will just make other units better 😁
i got a black charge dmg roll and i kinda wish it was a charge speed instead. fk this RNG shit man
What about 3 ATK, 3 ELE, 4 MA, 2CS build ?
Should I roll my ELE for ATK instead?
You want both ATK & Ele. If you're a tryhard, the optimal combination is two pieces of gear with ATK, Ele, CS (adding up to around 7%) and two pieces of gear with ATK, Ele, MA.
@@zenspeed404 I've got 3ATK 3ELE 4MA and 2CS (7% above) right now, just not sure whether it's worth rolling the ELE for ATK to 4ATK and 2ELE instead and I've got high roll for 3MA (77, 73²) not sure the other 4th MA with 56 is needed(if not maybe I'm thinking whether it's better to roll ATK or ELE)
I got 3 CS of lines, I still can't do 24 shots..I think....Lol
i wasted 40 rocks on Alice and lost 1 CS in exchange of 1 ELE and 1 MA. am i winning...
Can you not just do 100% charge speed? To get frame 1
Like having 3 cs lines i know its not optimal but i cant be investing all my rocks into alice i got other units to build as well
i just say 98.88 but it means minimum of 98.88% (theoretical %) (technically 98.73% with the one CS overload combination), anything more is fine but not necessary
awesome! thank you for the reply love the videos and the in depth explanations you do on this game.
It's cheaper to get 2 lines of charge speed and reroll attributes than it is to get 3 cs lines. You only need 2 T7 lines of CS, which is relatively low value and easy to get
@@johnnydiep2122 i understand but my alice barely has any atck lines and elemental lines. I got ma and cs lines but i still need to build other units rather only having one god tier unit i havent been playing since day one so resources are limited.
Pretty much i got unlucky and only have cs and ma lines and have been unlucky with the attk and ele lines so its an ok enough alice can be improved once i have other units built
So that why I dont see any different, my Alice previously have 3.75% + 3.16% after I re-roll again to get elemental, and do some reset to change 3.75% to 4%, I expenses a lot stone here lol, the 4%+ didn't appear earlier, you should just make this video earlier dude. I just feel like wasting my precious 20+ stone for reset 😢.
i wish we also knew this sooner. it didn't help that the other combination of the same amount didn't do the same thing (2.28+4.63). Some odd/weird rounding issue.
@@skyjlv it's a bug then ?
@@Gink01 OL just has a really weird rounding issue and calculations. Pushing it to 98.73 already is good anyways because if you think about it, it should've been 100% requirement but we've managed to push it down to 98.73X%. There's also the possibility of it has thousandths value that's not visible (3.156...etc)
@@skyjlv yeah, I agree, really weird, it just feel really bad after wasting a lot stone there. From the beginning, why not they just make Alice having 100% Charge speed by default whenever she bursting, forcing us to get extra charge speed really annoying and hard to build her, don't to mention to manually operate her 😂
homie still look tired after long vacation.
still on vacation
Playing Alice makes my mouse double-click 🥲🥲