Starke Sound SW15 15" Subwoofer REW Measurements Revealed! Best Subwoofer Deal Ever.
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- After taking a deep dive its easy to see that the Starke Sound SW15 is one of the best subwoofer buys in the Home Theater market today. This thing thumps!
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Have one and absolutely love the performance for what you get at an amazing price. Integrated in my system very well but still putting it through its paces😉
Thats great news! Just imagine what it would be like with 2 more!
Hello Jiles! I picked up a pair of SW15's! I love them! A lot of output in my room, wow! Two SW12's would have been cool too, but I'm very pleaesed with my purchased. I met Desmond down at Starke's, he is one awesome guy! Thanks for your recommendation.
Glad they are working out. I’d love to have 2 of these on my room too!!! Got any pics to share?
Got the BOGO deal and use with my Martin Logan 1600x. Plays real nice together. Have a straight REW curve now. No nulls until after 90htz.
Awesome!!!
Price aside which do you prefer? The dynamo 1600 or the starke?
I have 4 that I bought last year, with some 18 Rhythmiks 2. I use 2 near field and 2 in the back. I think they’re GREAT bought them after I saw Shane’s review!
Wow, that’s quite a set up!!!
I did the same thing😅
Nice!
I've been eyeing Rythmiks (fv15hp) for a while, but has just stumbled into these beasts. Can you please share how do you feel about them in comparison with Rythmiks. If I am only looking at purchasing 2 subs, does it make sense to add some funds and get Rythmiks or do you recommend these ones? Thanks a lot in advance!
@@sergeyeremeev6315 You are talking totally different price ranges here. You could get almost 4 of the Starke SW15 for the price of 1 fv15hp. 3.5 of them anyway. 1:1 the rhythmik should be "louder". They are both very nice subwoofers. If you can only do 1 unit I always say go ported because you are going to be chasing the raw output. If you can buy 2 units then sealed becomes a great option. If you want to stay cost conscious for sure go with the 2 starks. If you have an extra $2400 then go for the rythmiks. (Or buy like 7 starke 15s... ha!)
This is the best deal i have ever seen as far as ht bang for buck! Not sure how starke is pulling thiis off but you have to give a lot of love to this company for bringing real htsound to the masses. I only wish more people could understand how good of a deal this is. Its crazy!
It’s super awesome.
Is this a SQ sub or a SPL sub?
@NaregChakhbasian sq and spl are for car stereo. Home subs are all sq even though alot suck
@bingdong8571 I disagree, doesn't matter if they're home or car subs. Some are east for HT, some are meant primarily for music. Hence the SQ and SPL distinction.
@NaregChakhbasian if u want to go that route of thinking then, no its not a REL.
I put the LFE cable back in for Dune 2 in 4K Blu-Ray, was not getting the deep hard bass. Thought the movie was made for the Subwoofer Channel (.1 or LFE). It helped a bit. Then after saw it put back the Dual Red & White cables so I can put the Onkyo receiver Subwoofer Crossover at 50 HZ and my OSD Trevoce 12 was performing beast mode. Godzilla vs Kong I thought the neighbor may complain but was Afternoon to 5 pm so they was okay. Bass movies like Godzilla i run at 40 HZ the Onkyo receiever (LFE Off). But i will put it at 80HZ watching older movies like 007- Casino Royal or Spectre. Sweet spot is 50 HZ crossover - Unless you use DSP then you can run LFE at 120HZ etc.
Right on!
I bought two from the BOGO sale, I’m one of those super hardcore theater guys but still a newb when it comes to home theater. I Had two dual 18” JTR sealed subs and I thought two 15” subs would give me a noticeable bump in bass output, but sadly my 18’s make the Starke subs seem like they are not even on. I literally sat next to them to check.
You would need to double up your 18s to even get 3 DB of extra output. So you need 4 extra 18" drivers to do what you want to do.
Just picked up Bogo Sw-12s. Impressive so far. Very clean and to the point subs. Appreciate your review confirming my purchase.
Thats awesome!
Hello Jiles! I love my M&K MX1000 subwoofer. I bought it new in 1988! It produces deep bass, I call it, "Gravy in the skillet bass." Chuncks of beef is easy to produce that other subs do well, but they ignore the gravy that creates presure in the room. I'm looking for more powerful subs that are simuilar to the sound of the old M&K subs. I was considering two Rythmik F15 or two Rythmik G22s. But, if the Starke will satisfy my needs, Oh Happy Day! Your thoughts, please. Thanks for your time!
Ive never used the Rythmiks before or the older MX1000. For equal money the Starkes would almost certainly give you better output than the Rythmiks (as that you can get almost 3:1 units.) Meaning I'd take 2 sw15 over 1 F15. If you need the very most output out of a single unit maybe look at ported. But then you get into much larger boxes.
@@JilesMcCoy Thank you!
You should talk to Starke, get them to send you Four. I would love to see some compression test with Four subs in your spot.
That would be crazy!
I'm planning to go Las Vegas for CES 2025. Last time i went like 26 years ago there was a very nice Home Theater display, saw Krell amps and Sunfire $10,000 Subwoofer. I will try to Organize an event for all of us RUclips Home Theater guys.
CES is great, but there isn’t much HIFI there any more.
@@JilesMcCoyokay I see, been a long time much has changed.
Great subwoofer sw15....Amazing performance! Sounds Good!!I bought 2 subs..
Congrats!
Saw you did a Live Podcast interview today with the Sales Manager or Owner of Starke Sound. They are in Gardena, just past Long Beach. About 45 minutes drive from me in OC.
Cool
adding a 2nd nets you 6dB (doubling power+doubling drivers)......doubling again (4xsubs) nets you 12dB over a single
4 of these for 2K is just beastly!
Confirmed. In my small room (3.50m x 5.00m) I got exactly +6db with a 2. sub and +9db with a 3. one - all placed in the front
Awesome subwoofer. Make sure to subscribe!
Reminds me a bit of the REL Predator 15, especially with the Glass-Carbon Woofer design.
Thanks for watching!
After 2-3 weeks I will fix my lower Back, stretching out and Deadlifts and Squat at Gym. Then I can lift this beast Subwoofer to put in the house and set-up.
REL Predator not that good, saw the review by Shane Lee. Certain movie scenes it's lacking. SVS seems best. Monolith THX Ultra 13" ported I never heard or saw his review but that's 2,000 Watts RMS and crazy lows.
How does the SW15 compare to the 15" sealed Ultimax kit from PE (assuming the Ultimax is getting all the power it can take)?
I’ve never had that kit to measure. Happy to build and measure it if PE sends one over!
Looking at 4 of these or 2 GSG 18 mini Marty with Dayton UM18-22. Room size is 25 deep 16 wide 8 foot ceilings. Would you be willing to offer an opinion on these since you have heard both? Thank you.
If you want to diy go for the kit. But consider the 15” stereo integrity version. If you don’t want to diy then the Starke’s are an awesome option.
Hey Jiles. I'm new to this hobby. Is the amplification adequate (Continuous:475 and Peak:950) to drive a 15 inch driver? Looking to get 2 of these.
Its plenty of power. Check out the tests I did!
Giles you did a great review on the Starke Sound SW15! Do you believe that a pair of Starke Sound SW15 Subs will be great for high end 2 channel music in a dedicated acoustically treated room?
Do you also feel that the Starke Sound SW15 can output a great high end musical sound for 2 channel music?
Hi, they can without a doubt. I would run them as stereo subs if possible.
Thanks Jiles!@@JilesMcCoy
I'm in love with this subwoofer how can someone in the Uk get this amazing surbwofer please share with me the link UK market
enquiries@red-line.co.uk
OSD Trevoce 15" or 3 Woofers in a sealed box, 2 Passive 15's are Glass Carbon and Active is Paper treated, hits 16 HZ and 1,000 Watts RMS for $499 is the Best Deal now. Starke SW15 is Definitley a Very Nice subwoofer at $549 (Sold Out when was $499) Great Deal compared to the REL Predator 15". But both of these subs are just imitations of the real. Predator 15 box is 25 pounds heavier and the Definitive Technology DN15 is way heavier than the OSD Trevoce 15. As well as better amplifiers. But paying 1/3 or 1/2 the price is the Deal.
Cool! Thanks!
@@JilesMcCoy Actually I found my favorite to be the SVS SB 2000 and HSU sealed 15 both are $900-980
@@JilesMcCoyOSD Trevoce 12s sounds very good but the trick is to have 2 Woofers hit the Walls placing in the Corner. And 3rd Woofer or Passive radiator facing you.
How does this driver compare to the Dayton UM 18-22? I have dual UM18’ with the dayton 1200DSP plate amp.
The 18 will have more output. Its 3" larger. That equates to a great deal of surface area.
Sold Out now, Starke SW15 for $499 the Sealed Sub. I had it in my cart yesterday but was going to Check Out today, too late. No problem I prefer a subwoofer around 30 Pounds i can pick it up and move around. Probably buying the Definitive Technology Descend DN10 or 3XR triple woofers for $560 at Best Buy today. Otherwise the SVS PB 1000 Pro Sealed 12" $599
The Starke 12 is $425 I think.
@@JilesMcCoy yes I saw the Sealed 12" for $425, just don't like the fact that the 15" was just $75 more....
@@JilesMcCoy Acoustic Audio PSW-12 is $168 on Amazon. It's a 12" Down-Firing subwoofer with port on the bottom. Only 9 left in Stock. But I want Front Firing probably buy the Klipsch R-120 for $248
@@gtoutdoors1197 Pre order available now for the next shipment of 15s.
@@JilesMcCoy okay thanks I will check the website. I was wondering are you a part owner too ?
Do you have a review of the sw12 on thy way?
I don’t. I don’t have one of those handy.
OSD FS12 is $299, Save $750 says Compare at $1,050. It's a new model this year. 600 Watts RMS hits 18 HZ. Level 4 standard of CEDIA.
I will get this FS12 dual ported subwoofer, exchange my Trevoce 12s.
Nice
@@JilesMcCoy Actually I will Keep the Trevoce triple 12s sealed box, very happy with it after I Tuned it to hit Deeper Lows.
@@JilesMcCoy Prices up too but just $60-65, not like Definitive DN10 that went up $300 and other brands. Saw Reddit comments people said CEDIA Level 4 sounds too good to be true for $299. People tried it out they said better than SVS PB1000 but they don't see the 18 HZ at 120 Decibels...
@@JilesMcCoy Trying to find a Microphone I can use to record the Movies at home, sound demos/ action clips. Saw a few like Sennheiser $100-120 but they mostly have XLR connection and probably made for rock bands type not home theater. Might need to buy a camera or movie camera to connect the microphone as well.
The sw-15 15” starke subwoofer is no longer $500. The price now is $679 and the model 35 was priced at $889 and now the new price is $1800. I was unable to get in contact with anyone over the phone and the location in Artesia. When I went there the office seemed abandoned. Please reply for clarification.
They were on sale, but it doesn't look like they are now.
Usually they have good Black Friday sales in November. I am crossing my fingers for one.
How's the sub so far? Any problems with it yet over theses 6 months? I can get one for $650 will this beat out any sub around that price point?
No issues at all. That’s a steal at 650. A steal!
It's still $549 for SW15, the Sunday sale ends- not sure if was a gimmick or they just decided not to raise the price. 5% promo code it's definitely an Awesome Deal.
I took a look. The SW15P deal is over. The $550 I think is the normal price now for the SW15. The $499 price is the sale price for that I think.
@@JilesMcCoy That $499 Sale price was like February and March, it ended when i made that comment about Sold Out.
Basically it's $600 after Shipping. OSD and many companies have Free Shipping. HSU charges for Shipping too. OSD was just 2 days via UPS, surprising as Free can be 1-2 weeks most companies, except Amazon
@@JilesMcCoy It was $549 on the weekend and today or now is $549. They probably decided not to make it regular price $699. Let's see what happens this week.
@@JilesMcCoyonly way to know is to ask Starke, I will call them today. I think they just decided not to raise the price to the "Regular price $699"
Can you suggest the best way to daisychain 2 x subwoofers with XLR cables and a budget minidsp for some delay?
If you are using a minidsp and you daisy chain the subs you will have to apply the same setting to the whole chain. If you use these sw15 and XLR you can use run XLR to the first sub and then XLR from the first to the 2nd.
@@JilesMcCoy don't we need a delay in running the same singal from both SW15(s) sub 1 and 2?
Hence I was thinking double the XLR cable(s) and mini dsp in between for same added delay and or equalization for subwoofer 2?
You don’t want to daisy chain. You just run a low level cable from the minidsp to each of the subs. That way you can independently tune each subwoofer.
How would these stack next to the SQL / GSG option? .. Thinking, if I am going to pay for a USD product and ship to my location, do I want to spend a bit more for custom options .. or are these or something close to a better option / performace?
About to watch the Starke Vs Perlisten =)
Apples and oranges really. That’s sealed Vs ported. Different use cases ultimately.
@@JilesMcCoy - They are both fruit - humour me. Use case aside, just asking for a report on measured graphs data, if possible.
I never said what or how I'd be using them or preferred .. just want to know how they contrast in raw data points.
I can decide what or how to use after I get the info.
@@psyphonyxaudio I have no idea. I am still building the GSG/ SQL 15 subs.
@Jiles McCoy .. True. Wasn't sure if there were other resources not mentioned. 🙏🙏🙃🙃
I'll keep following the progress. :-)
Do you think this is a better sub than the rsl speedwoofer 12?
Yes
How is it better? Audioholics measurements clearly show the 12s beating this 15" all the way down to 16hz where is not even close.
Maybe you thought he meant the 10s?
@shaolin95 lowest frequency isn't a good measurement for how well a sub performs. this sub is built for speed an articulation, so alth9ugh it's not as loud or as deep as the svs, it is much smoother and integrates better with more speakers.
can we eq diy sub like the ultimax 18 to get same or near freq response of this sub ?? i always get confused how manufacturers get that deep from sealed subs otherwise it is very hard with DIY
Its not hard to do. Ultimax sealed will go this low for sure. Sealed plays lower than ported anyway.
@@JilesMcCoy yes it plays low than ported but how they control excurtion at lower freq. !!!
@@xfx990 you don’t need to worry about crazy excursion with sealed subs. That’s a ported sub phenomenon.
@@JilesMcCoy Thank you alot
I have two Ultimax 18s in sealed. Go low to 8hz in room.
would you recommend this or SVS PB-2000
Both are good. I've not measured the PB-2000 before.
HSU ULS-15 MK2 sealed box is $940 great subwoofer and the SVS SB 2000 is very nice quality sealed 12" about same price. Starke is best for $500 but not the real quality of HSU and SVS.
Did you decide on a subwoofer? Monolith has a THX Ultra 13" Ported that's 2,000 Watts RMS and Low frequency but if money not an issue.
@@gtoutdoors1197 thank you - i got the pb-2000 and i love it
Would this outperform SVS 2000 pro
The SW15 has a bit more output. And is literally half the price right now. Its no contest at the moment.
@@JilesMcCoyover the PB 2000 pro?
RSL Speedwoofer the guy said it's Better than the Starke SW12. He did a review and comparison. Ealan Osborne (Starke gave him two 12's one to keep and one to give away).
For speedwoofer12 money you buy the sw15. It’s better than the speedwoofer 12.
@@JilesMcCoy Daryl my friend has many subwoofers he will sell me the Polk PSW505 for $300. It's slot ported in back, 300 Watts RMS, 22-25 HZ heavy hitter. He had 4, sold the 2 older ones this one he used just 6-8 months. I will finalize with him tomorrow otherwise Best Buy store getting Definitive DN10 for $560. Stores are nice as 30 Days free Return, No Shipping problems and Costs.
@@JilesMcCoy yes that's true for Deep Bass. But Starke SW is not high end, Slow Response too. I think only true Great Subs are the HSU, then REL Predator.
@@JilesMcCoy I think the review guy said Starke SW12 has a Slow Response, SW15 would be Slower. But at $500 still Awesome Deal. HSU UL series is $980 plus $100 Fed Ex signature Shipping and Tax probably $1,200. They sold out of all the older MK series.
I told my friend Daryl, HSU like Bentley Car and SW15 Starke is like BMW 7 series. My Definitive DN10 is like a Porsche Turbo car and SW12 like a Dodge Charger V8. Lol
I would have to spend $200K, build an Underground Basement room for my house, then i can get Four 15's. Southern California way different than Midwest or the East Coast homes on 1 Acre land. Best is to buy 10-20 Acres and build a custom house. Today i was playing my Logitech computer speakers with 3-4" subwoofer probably 20 Watts max, brother said he heard it downstairs and think neighbor heard it. My Infinity 12 Down-Firing sub 100 watts RMS i had the gain at 30-40% playing Prometheus movie 7.1 DTS, neighbor heard the booms.
Neighbors are cool they don't call the Police, but they make Loud noises at 7 AM when i'm still Sleeping....
Gotta be careful sounds like.
@@JilesMcCoy did you hear the ELAC Sub1225?
@@gtoutdoors1197 Ive never heard that one before.
@@JilesMcCoy Thanks for replying back, seems like nobody has reviewed it but the 10" has a few reviews on RUclips. The Varo is the popular one. Probably just buy the Klipsch R-120SW and sell it to my friend after a few months when i get the SVS SB1000 for $599
By the way, internal dsp is worthless if your using multiple subs cuz ur gonna need an external dsp anyway
Internal DSP on which thing?
How to buy these in EU?
You can get them through dealers there. I dont know the price.
Paid $285 after the 5% Promo Code email for OSD Trevoce 12 (Triple 12's in Sealed Box) it's 43 Pounds while the Definitive Technology DN12 which it copies is 65 Pounds. Better Box and Amplifier much higher quality and power. But paying $300 vs $1,200 I'm happy with the cheaper imitation.
Nice
@@JilesMcCoy I'm really happy with the performance after watching many movie clips. Just thinking about the OSD FS12, dual ported 600 Watts RMS hits 18HZ and "meet CEDIA’s target for Level 4 home theaters" (website states). Most impressive is $299 price. Maybe if i use 2 Subwoofers i will buy it.
@@JilesMcCoyI will exchange the OSD Trevoce 12s for the FS12 Ported.
Pitty shipping to europe is crazy expensive
Agreed.
U said the same thing 5x
Thanks for watching!
This guy did a really good review of the Starke SW15 in his Theater Room showing a few different movie clips too:
ruclips.net/video/4A_2pTgn5ao/видео.html
Cool!
Looks like my video clip showing the Trevoce 12s hitting the Walls got 3 Views, should have worked posting it.
@@gtoutdoors1197 Whats the link to the clip?
@@JilesMcCoy ruclips.net/video/7EndNl821t8/видео.htmlsi=v7XzpBnHxlW1sOg_
@@JilesMcCoy it's on the bottom of the comment page, but I just put it here too.
FYI, threshold of audibility is about 97dB at 10hz, so even with 4 units,don't expect to actually hear anything
You don’t actually hear anything under 20 hz ish. But you feel it. It’s the same for all subwoofers.
It’s the inners you want to tickle at 10 hertz, of course no audibility. With 4 you will feel it everything around you will.
What Alcozar said!
In a perfect movie theater type room, which most people never have in their house, 4 Subwoofers or 1 in each Corner of the room is the ideal way to go.
Sure you sure these are $500? I don't see that at all.
100% sure. They are bogo $1000. Which is $500 each. I cover that in the video.
@Jiles McCoy i actually thought that they could be bought for 500 at one time before fully watching your video. Thanks. How does this compare to say an ultimax build?
@@sspringss2727 Depends on the Ultimax build. I find that there usually isn’t a huge cross over between folks that want to do a diy project and those that want to buy a finished product.
@Jiles McCoy well im one of those i built my ultimax sets but may buy a ready made for my living room.
@@sspringss2727 If you are looking for the best buy on a set of good 15s the Starke deal is killer.