Just reading the comments and the general feeling is that Dr Mulder is "standing on his high horse"... in other words critical of his approach. I don't see it like that... my read of Dr Mulder is that he is far more trustworthy than the DA approach. Feels weird and disappointing. Indeed the examples he gives as reasons for his critique seem just good governance decisions.
I totally agree with you - either we have a government of national unity or we don't and DA are at fault here! However the majority of comments here are clearly one sided and they are NOT looking at what is best for the people!
The racists are out in full force. This is the perfect example of a functional democracy, holding poor leadership to the fire and making decisions for the good of the COMMUNITY. It’s exemplary politics and the perfect example of Ubuntu. But no, the racists wants to see a white face no matter what.
SA is in a much better position with the GNU National Government today than it would have been with an ANC/ EFF/ PA /MK Coalition in power at a National level!! The DA only did what was necessary to RESCUE South Africa and its economy from total destruction! These small political parties are unfortunately proving to be a big no no, only looking out for themselves!!
On a second level thinking view, the FF+ did the right thing. Power corrupts. The DA is not incorruptible. It would serve our country well if all corrupt / egotistical leaders get the boot, regardless what party they are from. If the ANC mayor does what the DA mayor has done, I expect the FF+ to boot him out too. Let our leaders feel the consequences of abusing power. Then our society will prosper.
@@tonitappous2422 still does not give them the right to be arrogant! Just because they are small doesn't mean you can make one-sided decisions. Remember how the DA complaint about the ANC not giving positions proportionally? And firing the municipal manager without a good reason is also corruption.
Firing the municipal DG without due process, purely because he blocks a contract the mayor wants to pass that will cost the town money, is very close to corruption.
DA is te groot vir hul skoene hulle wil net he soos hulle wil. Hulle wil die kleiner partye swak maak en alles wat goed is hulle toe eien as of hulle alleen gewerk het.
By far not a FF+ supporter but I have high respect for Dr Mulder. He always come across as a level-headed man. He is spot on on the DA's idea of the GNU and Helen Zille definitely confirmed what some of us thought. The leaking of GNU negotiations to the press during the negotiation process and then went to brag about it was a big f up
Have you noticed that Mr. Mulder does not hesitate, stutter or clear his throat while explaining himself to the presenter. He is one of a very few politicians whom I know of, that keeps his composure and has the intellect to explain any political topic with great detail. He answers the question that is presented to him and stays on topic. He does not get emotional and start raising his voice. He does not change the subject to suite himself. Very professional in his presentation. I honestly think as South Africans, we so tired of listening to unintelligent people in high positions trying to sound intelligent. And by the way I'm not a FF+ supporter
The problem in Oudtshoorn is the fact that the DA is corrupt due to the fact that high high salaries are been allocated to senior posts . The municipality only work Fridays till 12.30 and small amount of rate payers have to pay all costs ext. The mayor and his team do what they want even if other parties dont agree. ur Rates is sky high and the mayor dont even have a house in oudtshoorn nor does lots of his senior managers.
SA needs coalitions to work, so services are delivered to the people and corruption is eradicated. Ensuring good processes are put in place and followed, is surely vital to ensure they last.
@@maseratifittipaldi I disagree. I listened to her on a 702 show this morning and I never got a single hint of ego. I think people are intimidated by her and don't like facts
Oudtshoorn did the right thing here, the DA is not exempt from poor governance… with their catastrophic leadership, this town has suffered significant economic loss, a standstill in development and inflated ego’s to the point where the people of the town suffered raised taxes and poor service delivery. Sense won here, for once!!
Assumptions are the mother of all f_ups friend: there is no generalisation: bad governance is bad governance no matter the political party. You run the risk of turning your beloved DA into another ANC if it’s party members are allowed to do whatever they want however they want in the name of the DA… Every action should be weighted by its outcome when it comes to politics, irrespective of the political party. The Anc does some things well and others not so much: so does the Da so does the Pa so does everyone else. No political party is above reproach, please.
@@TruthTeller908 and yes I was born and raised in the Western Cape. I’ve lived all over the world and SA but I’ve returned home not because of the rebranded NP, but because of the climate and the people
@@TruthTeller908We got here by voters who kept giving their party a free pass. Blind support for a politicsl party, thats the problem. Be it NP, ANC or DA, it doesnt matter. Our biggest enemy are lazy voters.
@@Hannodb1961 I don’t disagree. Thats why this move by political parties collaborating is so important: it’s a welcome reminder of how democracy was obtained in this country: co-operation, compromise and putting human beings before polital agendas. Amandla awethu! The only way forward is unity!
@@FictionHubZAThat makes the DA one of the most dangerous and short sighted parties out there. They do not seem to understand that the majority of splinter parties they want to illiminate broke away from the ANC. If you get rid of them, the shift will favor the ANC.
Listen to Corne & research the facts from publicly available sources before knee-jerk reactions; he makes a clear case for the FF Plus's actions in Oudtshoorn. Helen Zille has to learn to listen and respect others too and quit playing politics
@@TruthTeller908 If you assess the situation objectively then you might also conclude that his reaction was not primarily motivated by party politics, but an interest in good governance including transparency and accountability at local level
It seems like it's not just the black politicians that have problems with DA arrogance... respect for those who come from different sides of the fence and put difference aside for the sake of South Africans.
The relationship with ANC is going the JHB way, watch how they at any time will collapse the mayor...remember he plays nicely with words. FF+ lost a large number of voter....they need to build numbers again.
Salute Mr Mulder....u're making so much sense..never thought would listen with interest in whatever FF+ says; but this interview totally changed my attitude. 🤔
@@CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq Many FF+ voted DA to strengthen opposition to ANC in the last national election. Maybe arrogance is a stronger emotion than jealousy. Watch the municipal elections in 2 yrs time.
@@Hannodb1961 When was there ever a referendum which led to this abomination? To me it is clear that political parties merely hijacked our democracy for their own purposes.
Mr Mulder is correct, development contributions by developers have sent many professionals home because the developers handle politicians in many municipalities, this should not be overlooked. Why are developers never brought to book?
I voted DA because of their successful governance but find them so arrogant. The lead with enforcement without consequence, there way or the highway. Not good for a coalition which requires shared management.
Since when has the Mayor as politician the right to interfere with the administration. The Mayor must adhere to the code of conduct for councillors.(Municipal System Act Schedule1 (#11)). The mayor's role is mainly to oversee or monitor the functions of the administration through Council. (Municipal Structures Act Section 56) The Municipal Manager must report any abuse of powers to Council and to the MEC if necessary which must take action to rectify.
I've visited Orania last week and now understand why it's economically, population, infrastructure is exploding.. 1.Same religion, culture, Language.. 2. NO POLITICIANS!!! OR POLITICAL PARTY..3. ALL LEADERS ARE LOCAL AND DO NOT FOLLOW ANY "NATIONAL AGENDA" RATHER A LOCAL AGENDA.. 4. DISPUTES ARE SOLVED IN THEIR OWN LOCAL COURT. 5. EVERYONE WHO BUYS PROPERTY AFTER BEIGN APPROVED OWNS A SHARE IN THE TOWN DISPITE VERY RICH OR POOR AND EVERYONE HAS THE SAME PLATFORM AS EVERYONE ELSE... IT THE BLACK RACISTS DON'T STOP THEM, I AM 100% SURE WITHIN THE NEXT 20 YEARS IT WOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT TOWN IN NORTHERN CAPE IN TERMS OF GDP... TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE GROWTH OF THE PAST 10 YEARS IT WOULD IT WOULD HAVE A POPULATION OF AROUND 80K ATLEAST THAT'S THE CONSERVATIVE FIGURES, WHEN I 1ST VISITED IN 2012- 12 YEARS AGO IT LOOKED LIKE A VILLAGE, I WAS SHOCKED NOW SEEING HOW IT DEVELOPED AND THERE'S CONSTRUCTION SITES EVERYWHERE.. THEY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH DEMAND AND HAS IMPLEMENTED EVEN TOUGHER REQUIREMENTS TO KEEP THE STRONG FLOW IN CHECK!!! I NOW KNOW THAT MOST POLITICIANS EVERYWHERE IS ONLY IN IT FOR THEIR OWN POCKETS!!!
You must be out of breath with all this shouting, but what you say makes a lot of sense. Political parties are only in it for themselves. They always want to divide and rule and one way of doing this is on the basis of race. Go make yourself a cup of coffee, take a deep breath and go tell these politicians where to get off.
@@FictionHubZA Well Orania is doing something unlike the rest of us who does nothing!!! Look at Monaco for example, also has no politician, it's among the safest countries on the planet, among the wealthiest aswell.. Ruled by a Royal Prince!! Look at UAE!! , China, Qatar etc.. There's alternatives that's working very well!!! Orania's main drive is independence, but in terms of government it will remain on current structures which actually gives most power to the people and not politicians and Oligarchs!! Like everywhere else, Europe is governed by WEF, Oligarchs and politicians look how fast they are now turning into 3rd world...
Alec, now do the right thing. "Hear the other side." Invite Helen Zille to give her side of the story. If she declines, she is guilty of wring motives and must live with the consequences. My view is that she will be itching to get into the studio.
It will be interesting to hear her excuse for defending a rotten mayor. This wont be the first time that DA arrogance cost them a governing position at the expense of the people they supposedly represent.
Yes I agree, the FF is really blowing their own trumpet. Only 200 000 people voted for them in the election. They actually lost seats in the last election. To go in with the ANC, I don’t know.
@andrewmc8314 The DA didnt do particularly well, either, did they? They too lost votes. They only grew because of the low voter turn out, but in real voter numbers they shrunk.
This is unacceptable. DA must please listen and deal with Rogue major. Respect your fellow members and honor agreements. Provide oversight that unites instead of turning a blind eye and letting chips fall where they will.
Great factual feedback and insights Dr Mulder ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️- you calling out the DA as willfully not being part of the provincial government of unity , is an insightful point of view!
The voters reminded political parties time and time again that a diverse population need leaders who will acknowledge that diversity. It seems that certain parties and in this case, FF+ understand it. I want to commend them for reading the playground and seeking solutions on behalf of the voters. Bullying is not exclusive to school playgrounds!
Whether we like it or not; local government has been politicized; lets pray DA and VF+ and other like minded parties see eye to eye locally across our country.
I think it would be a really good thing if FF+ and ANC make a success of the partnership. It would help South Africa. Because then we steer away from race BS and more with who can get the job done better. Also, create some competition. I really wish them all the best.
Hm, the Municipality should not carry costs for any infrastructure on a property that will not own, like a Public Township in which the local authority takes ownership of all roads, infrastructure and certain properties where applicable as endowments. afaik.
Well said Doc Mulder, the DA must start listening and stop behaving like it knows it all.I salute Oom Piet he is taking the bull by the horns,he has become a rising star with in the SA community.HELLEN ZILLE must learn to SHUT UP
I really dont care who is in power. DA, FF+, action sa... whomever. Just as long as things get fixed and work as they are supposed to. Criminals go to jail Lights stay on Roads and rail get fixed Schools are built... So that ALL South Africans get an opportunity to better themselves.
Reading some of the comments it appears to me that some people just don't seem to understand what Dr Mulder explained. As a FFPlus supporter I support Dr mulder completly with his arguments and if there is one person who understands collition governments that's him..either you work together or you don't and in the Oudsooren case the DA did not cooperate well
Sounds like the councilor of the DA in Outshoorn is getting a kickback from the developer...... hence he wants the City to pay for the moving of the pipe...
As a Citizen of this Country i dont care which party is in charge as long as they give us what we pay for. We get service delivery etc. Im so tired of all this politics and squabbling. Like a bunch brats.
It was evident before the National Election that Corne was going to be an obstacle for the DA as he was always hanging on the shoulders with the the PA however, citing with the ANC is something else!! Not voting for them again.
You hardly got ANY votes yet your party ends up getting the Prison portfolio! Its actually a more important portfolio than you seem to think! Be grateful that you are represented in the GNU!
I think our politicians can be happy with the work they have done on you. Government is a service to the people, not a competition between politicians where they get rewarded on the basis of election outcomes. I think the people should be grateful for having someone like Corne in government.
I have always voted DA and backed Helen, but you need to retire. Myself and my children have to live with your legacy. Your time is up. You cannot always be right. Learn to please compromise.
Oudtshoorn is a an absolute dive of a town. It needs someone with a Business mind to manage it. ANC messed it up previously! The political parties ruined it!
@@maseratifittipaldiLol. Its the _best_ system we couldve asked for. Stop blaming the system for how the people vote. You're not going to change that by replacing our current system with the rotten brittish system either, if anything, that will only make things worse.
@@PhilidaFortune well in that case she must have broken a record. She has been called more things than a shape shifting cat. By every. single. party she has worked with. As well as a lot of DA leaders. It's quite impressive actually
I think Helen Zille might just manage to collapse the GNU by trying to portray Ramaphosa as her puppet as some many people in the ANC are against this GNU and they don't need any encouragement to collapse it.
The FF+ is such a small party but they want ro run the show. Good luck with the ANC, wont last long. You could never work with DA. Always on your own, such a shame
Please take note of what has happened here.The Ff+received a mandate from a specific demographic. White people on mostly lower economic standing. THE current budget in Oudtshoorn has been a point of contention for this demographic for a while.The FF then raised this concern and subsequently voted as per the mandate they received. For me that is representing your constituency. The business community in Oudtshoorn for years have boasted that they have their arms elbow deep in the backsides of the council and the DA Lastly if white Afrikaners just change their fixation on skin colour and realise that yhe discrimination of today is based on economic standing they will especially find the place they belong.
I mean I don't know what yhe is but anyway, I think it's a huge generalization to say that Afrikaners are racist. You're stereotyping 2.7 million people!
That sort of mature analysis of political maneuvering is the reason I vote FF+. Well said, Mr Mulder. But, if I may make a suggestion: The DA after Tony Leon has been abysmal about answering correspondence from concerned voters. Your party appears to be even worse. it is a critical error in my view.
The FF Plus was the biggest loser from the DA's ingenious coalition pact prior to the elections. Steenhuisen successfully took back much of the support the DA lost over the years to the FF. Things just haven't been the same after this and now we are witnessing the unravelling of old and new relationships since the dawn of the GNU. Still though, hooking up with the ANC....
Even Helen Zille is creating divisions with her comments within the GNU and at this point the DA seems more like the bully in the room trying to tell everyone and all-knowing. There is nothing "Democratic" in what I hear from how this DA ex-mayor handled the situation. Sounds more like typical cadre behaviour.
We have two parties with exactly the same policies on paper (DA) and (ANC) only difference is the leadership. And yet people believe by voting for any one of them you are going to change the country? 😂
The DA getting Agriculture portfolio, gives them direct access to communicate with the farming communities who are generally FF+ supporters. This is definitly a significant issue for the FF+ in staying relevant and not losing further support to the DA.
Corne Mulder is a gem. He is a minefield of good sense and should be used more often as a sounding board. the DA are marching to their own death knell by all of this talking downward arrogance. My view is that they too will wane away along with EFF for their attitude towards working together with the rest of the representation in parliament.
‘n Politieke party is ‘n politieke party… Kiesers moet na partye se manifestos kyk maar mense is LUI en vat ons demokrasie vir niks, dit lyk dit het sommer maklik gekom. Go VF+! Om saam te werk vir die goed van die kiesers is die enigste weg vorentoe. AMANDLA AWETHU!
Dr. Mulder, as the adult in the room you are now coming across as a carping Ken. Siding with the ANC risks your party losing more votes in future elections.
No. As a matter of fact they have won massive respect in the community, and from all political parties: they are willing to work together and they hold leadership ACCOUNTABLE. They are SERVING their community. Massive respect to them.
@@cchris5958 Really - do you live in Oudtshoorn? Because if you do you are living in LALA land. Just look at the result of this last election and the next Municipal elections will be coming soon. Words mean nothing.... look at the votes!
The us and them especially in local legislators is unhelpful as there is differing opinions and other options that can be tabled by different parties. A mayor and speaker has to learn to manage this complexity.
I believed him right up to the end when he tried to frame the 3 to 7 power sharing insult as Lesufi just being "a bit difficult to work with". Which I hope we all know, was not the case.
Just reading the comments and the general feeling is that Dr Mulder is "standing on his high horse"... in other words critical of his approach. I don't see it like that... my read of Dr Mulder is that he is far more trustworthy than the DA approach. Feels weird and disappointing. Indeed the examples he gives as reasons for his critique seem just good governance decisions.
I totally agree with you - either we have a government of national unity or we don't and DA are at fault here! However the majority of comments here are clearly one sided and they are NOT looking at what is best for the people!
Just study Zille's pre-1994 history and everybody will know on which side of the Communist fence the DA SITS!!!
@@barbaraholzmann946 Just study Zille's pre-1994 history and everybody will know on which side of the Communist fence the DA SITS!!!
DA's problem is their arrogance think they always right and their word is absolute. I uphold FFplus standing on principle
Dr is a south african not interested in da selfishness Ramaphosa like people who interested for the country not position
It seems from these comments, its okay for DA to go into coalition with the ANC, but FF+ is not allowed, what double standards.
The racists are out in full force. This is the perfect example of a functional democracy, holding poor leadership to the fire and making decisions for the good of the COMMUNITY. It’s exemplary politics and the perfect example of Ubuntu. But no, the racists wants to see a white face no matter what.
SA is in a much better position with the GNU National Government today than it would have been with an ANC/ EFF/ PA /MK Coalition in power at a National level!! The DA only did what was necessary to RESCUE South Africa and its economy from total destruction!
These small political parties are unfortunately proving to be a big no no, only looking out for themselves!!
@@tonitappous2422 So What!
False dichotomy. What a stupid comment. DA are with ANC to prevent EFF and MK. In this case ANC and FF- have kept DA out. FF- are traitors.
What a lot of rot, that FF+, flip floppers!! Sies man!!
I'd like to hear about the Oudsthoorn saga from the DA's point of view as well, please Alec? Hope you can organize that soon. Thanks.
On a second level thinking view, the FF+ did the right thing. Power corrupts. The DA is not incorruptible. It would serve our country well if all corrupt / egotistical leaders get the boot, regardless what party they are from. If the ANC mayor does what the DA mayor has done, I expect the FF+ to boot him out too. Let our leaders feel the consequences of abusing power. Then our society will prosper.
No corruption has been shown in this particular instance - just sour grapes on the part of small political parties like the VF + !!
What corruption?? None has been proven! Just sour grapes!!
@@tonitappous2422 still does not give them the right to be arrogant! Just because they are small doesn't mean you can make one-sided decisions. Remember how the DA complaint about the ANC not giving positions proportionally? And firing the municipal manager without a good reason is also corruption.
Firing the municipal DG without due process, purely because he blocks a contract the mayor wants to pass that will cost the town money, is very close to corruption.
100%
Brilliant idea Corne Mulder,go for it :it is high time that the local citizens are considered
Corne Mulder .... what an Intelligent reasonable knowledgable man .... why cant more politicians be like this .
Bradley in Knysna
The DA need to wake up.
DA is te groot vir hul skoene hulle wil net he soos hulle wil. Hulle wil die kleiner partye swak maak en alles wat goed is hulle toe eien as of hulle alleen gewerk het.
Kyk hoe vrot is Mosselbaai wat met R1.3 biljoen se skuld sit.
And here continues the rot. Wheeling and Dealing.
The GNU is the last chance for the middle class to leave while the Rand is still under R20
Let see how Outshoorn looks in year from now...
By far not a FF+ supporter but I have high respect for Dr Mulder. He always come across as a level-headed man. He is spot on on the DA's idea of the GNU and Helen Zille definitely confirmed what some of us thought. The leaking of GNU negotiations to the press during the negotiation process and then went to brag about it was a big f up
Poli' a Latin word meaning 'many'; and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.
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Have you noticed that Mr. Mulder does not hesitate, stutter or clear his throat while explaining himself to the presenter.
He is one of a very few politicians whom I know of, that keeps his composure and has the intellect to explain any political topic with great detail.
He answers the question that is presented to him and stays on topic.
He does not get emotional and start raising his voice.
He does not change the subject to suite himself.
Very professional in his presentation.
I honestly think as South Africans, we so tired of listening to unintelligent people in high positions trying to sound intelligent.
And by the way I'm not a FF+ supporter
The problem in Oudtshoorn is the fact that the DA is corrupt due to the fact that high high salaries are been allocated to senior posts . The municipality only work Fridays till 12.30 and small amount of rate payers have to pay all costs ext. The mayor and his team do what they want even if other parties dont agree. ur Rates is sky high and the mayor dont even have a house in oudtshoorn nor does lots of his senior managers.
SA needs coalitions to work, so services are delivered to the people and corruption is eradicated. Ensuring good processes are put in place and followed, is surely vital to ensure they last.
Good for FF+ we are fed up with the DA.
Most people I know love the DA and how it cares for all South Africans!!
And voters fed up with the FF+?
I support the FF+ and DA working together
Me too, but there is a lady within the DA with a HUGE ego and something to prove.
@@maseratifittipaldiIt is so unfortunate...
@@maseratifittipaldi I disagree. I listened to her on a 702 show this morning and I never got a single hint of ego. I think people are intimidated by her and don't like facts
Let me guess your skin color
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 Yip, we're supposed to walk on eggshells now to not offend the ANC
Oudtshoorn did the right thing here, the DA is not exempt from poor governance… with their catastrophic leadership, this town has suffered significant economic loss, a standstill in development and inflated ego’s to the point where the people of the town suffered raised taxes and poor service delivery. Sense won here, for once!!
You have no idea how bad things are where the ANC is part of local government. Do you live in the Western Cape ?
Assumptions are the mother of all f_ups friend: there is no generalisation: bad governance is bad governance no matter the political party. You run the risk of turning your beloved DA into another ANC if it’s party members are allowed to do whatever they want however they want in the name of the DA… Every action should be weighted by its outcome when it comes to politics, irrespective of the political party. The Anc does some things well and others not so much: so does the Da so does the Pa so does everyone else. No political party is above reproach, please.
@@TruthTeller908 and yes I was born and raised in the Western Cape. I’ve lived all over the world and SA but I’ve returned home not because of the rebranded NP, but because of the climate and the people
@@TruthTeller908We got here by voters who kept giving their party a free pass. Blind support for a politicsl party, thats the problem. Be it NP, ANC or DA, it doesnt matter. Our biggest enemy are lazy voters.
@@Hannodb1961 I don’t disagree. Thats why this move by political parties collaborating is so important: it’s a welcome reminder of how democracy was obtained in this country: co-operation, compromise and putting human beings before polital agendas. Amandla awethu! The only way forward is unity!
DA doesn't see smaller parties and believe in thresholds.
They see them as unnecessary nuisance.
If it was up to the DA we would onky have the option between them and the anc.
@@FictionHubZAand what political party is different they do the same, or wtf is politics
@@FictionHubZAThat makes the DA one of the most dangerous and short sighted parties out there. They do not seem to understand that the majority of splinter parties they want to illiminate broke away from the ANC. If you get rid of them, the shift will favor the ANC.
@@Hannodb1961 Ya. They seem to think every vote taken from the ANC goes to them automatically.
@@Hannodb1961 Yes in the leadership minds they are the ones that got ANC below 51 and not MK.
Listen to Corne & research the facts from publicly available sources before knee-jerk reactions; he makes a clear case for the FF Plus's actions in Oudtshoorn.
Helen Zille has to learn to listen and respect others too and quit playing politics
Tripe. Helen runs circles around Corne Orania dreamer.
Part politics should have nothing to do with municipal governance. Corne got offended by the DA leader and decided to flip flop.
Zille is too full of herself to listen to anybody else.
@@TruthTeller908 If you assess the situation objectively then you might also conclude that his reaction was not primarily motivated by party politics, but an interest in good governance including transparency and accountability at local level
@@veziqiniso4425 Not true if you look at the facts you will see corne with sour grapes
It seems like it's not just the black politicians that have problems with DA arrogance... respect for those who come from different sides of the fence and put difference aside for the sake of South Africans.
Can you do better than the DA, the mind boggles!!
I agree with you 100%. We don't care who or what, but the end result. What's better for our precious South Africa.
None is so arrogant as the 'mighty' ANC!!!
I'll rather have good governance. Than subjective accusations.
@@RobertEarlMylroie You're measuring the DA against a very low bar set by the ANC. The DA has a lot of skeletons in their closet too.
This Oom only has a south african passport. The DA officials silently will hv dual citizen ship.... I trust this Oom.
And you know this cause you work at home affairs 😂😂
The relationship with ANC is going the JHB way, watch how they at any time will collapse the mayor...remember he plays nicely with words. FF+ lost a large number of voter....they need to build numbers again.
They also not provided the numbers as promised voters during multi-party negotiations
Salute Mr Mulder....u're making so much sense..never thought would listen with interest in whatever FF+ says; but this interview totally changed my attitude. 🤔
Last time I check on a national level the DA got a pretty high vote 🗳️ to be where they are … Mulder you did not mention that ?
After the high vote comes the fall from grace because of arrogance and a lack of integrity.
FF+ had a few votes...Jealousy is a strong emotion
@@CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq Many FF+ voted DA to strengthen opposition to ANC in the last national election. Maybe arrogance is a stronger emotion than jealousy.
Watch the municipal elections in 2 yrs time.
Why are there even political parties involved in Oudtshoorn? Why can't the wards be represented directly?
We had that. People voted for parties in municipal elections and parties took over. Dont blame the system, people voted for it.
@@Hannodb1961 When was there ever a referendum which led to this abomination? To me it is clear that political parties merely hijacked our democracy for their own purposes.
@@Hannodb1961 When was there ever a referendum which led to this abomination? To me it seems political parties merely hijacked our democracy.
There should be immediate lifestyle audits for these skelms
Mr Mulder is correct, development contributions by developers have sent many professionals home because the developers handle politicians in many municipalities, this should not be overlooked. Why are developers never brought to book?
I voted DA because of their successful governance but find them so arrogant. The lead with enforcement without consequence, there way or the highway. Not good for a coalition which requires shared management.
Can you do better than the DA?? Stop calling them arrogant!!
Their arrogance will be their downfall
Since when has the Mayor as politician the right to interfere with the administration. The Mayor must adhere to the code of conduct for councillors.(Municipal System Act Schedule1 (#11)). The mayor's role is mainly to oversee or monitor the functions of the administration through Council. (Municipal Structures Act Section 56)
The Municipal Manager must report any abuse of powers to Council and to the MEC if necessary which must take action to rectify.
I've visited Orania last week and now understand why it's economically, population, infrastructure is exploding.. 1.Same religion, culture, Language.. 2. NO POLITICIANS!!! OR POLITICAL PARTY..3. ALL LEADERS ARE LOCAL AND DO NOT FOLLOW ANY "NATIONAL AGENDA" RATHER A LOCAL AGENDA.. 4. DISPUTES ARE SOLVED IN THEIR OWN LOCAL COURT. 5. EVERYONE WHO BUYS PROPERTY AFTER BEIGN APPROVED OWNS A SHARE IN THE TOWN DISPITE VERY RICH OR POOR AND EVERYONE HAS THE SAME PLATFORM AS EVERYONE ELSE... IT THE BLACK RACISTS DON'T STOP THEM, I AM 100% SURE WITHIN THE NEXT 20 YEARS IT WOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT TOWN IN NORTHERN CAPE IN TERMS OF GDP... TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE GROWTH OF THE PAST 10 YEARS IT WOULD IT WOULD HAVE A POPULATION OF AROUND 80K ATLEAST THAT'S THE CONSERVATIVE FIGURES, WHEN I 1ST VISITED IN 2012- 12 YEARS AGO IT LOOKED LIKE A VILLAGE, I WAS SHOCKED NOW SEEING HOW IT DEVELOPED AND THERE'S CONSTRUCTION SITES EVERYWHERE.. THEY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH DEMAND AND HAS IMPLEMENTED EVEN TOUGHER REQUIREMENTS TO KEEP THE STRONG FLOW IN CHECK!!! I NOW KNOW THAT MOST POLITICIANS EVERYWHERE IS ONLY IN IT FOR THEIR OWN POCKETS!!!
Amish - comes to mind. So does apartheid. Going back to the past. Creepy, weird and inbred comes to mind as well.
You must be out of breath with all this shouting, but what you say makes a lot of sense. Political parties are only in it for themselves. They always want to divide and rule and one way of doing this is on the basis of race.
Go make yourself a cup of coffee, take a deep breath and go tell these politicians where to get off.
Is such a project sustainable beyond having a few thousand people? Cause everytime people try this they kearn exactly why governments exist.
@@FictionHubZA Well Orania is doing something unlike the rest of us who does nothing!!! Look at Monaco for example, also has no politician, it's among the safest countries on the planet, among the wealthiest aswell.. Ruled by a Royal Prince!! Look at UAE!! , China, Qatar etc.. There's alternatives that's working very well!!! Orania's main drive is independence, but in terms of government it will remain on current structures which actually gives most power to the people and not politicians and Oligarchs!! Like everywhere else, Europe is governed by WEF, Oligarchs and politicians look how fast they are now turning into 3rd world...
There's no need for the never-ending use of capitals
Please stop destroying our hopes.All party's
Alec, now do the right thing. "Hear the other side." Invite Helen Zille to give her side of the story. If she declines, she is guilty of wring motives and must live with the consequences. My view is that she will be itching to get into the studio.
It will be interesting to hear her excuse for defending a rotten mayor. This wont be the first time that DA arrogance cost them a governing position at the expense of the people they supposedly represent.
Yes I agree, the FF is really blowing their own trumpet.
Only 200 000 people voted for them in the election.
They actually lost seats in the last election.
To go in with the ANC, I don’t know.
@andrewmc8314 The DA didnt do particularly well, either, did they? They too lost votes. They only grew because of the low voter turn out, but in real voter numbers they shrunk.
This is unacceptable. DA must please listen and deal with Rogue major. Respect your fellow members and honor agreements. Provide oversight that unites instead of turning a blind eye and letting chips fall where they will.
Great factual feedback and insights Dr Mulder ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️- you calling out the DA as willfully not being part of the provincial government of unity , is an insightful point of view!
The voters reminded political parties time and time again that a diverse population need leaders who will acknowledge that diversity. It seems that certain parties and in this case, FF+ understand it. I want to commend them for reading the playground and seeking solutions on behalf of the voters. Bullying is not exclusive to school playgrounds!
Whether we like it or not; local government has been politicized; lets pray DA and VF+ and other like minded parties see eye to eye locally across our country.
DA... you had better listen very carefully to FF+ or you will find yourself out in the cold
Let's see what kak they get from the ANC. Knysna seems to be a good example.
I think it would be a really good thing if FF+ and ANC make a success of the partnership. It would help South Africa. Because then we steer away from race BS and more with who can get the job done better. Also, create some competition. I really wish them all the best.
Call Helen Zille to intervene in Oudshorn and sort out the DA staff and read out & read them the riot act!!
Hope he knows he lost my vote. Will not vote for ANC caders.
Who are you going to vote for , they all wheel and deal with the ANC.
The DA collapsed this coalition. The DA is to blame, not the FF.
He had no choice
Helen het gese DA en ANC is saam. So ek neem aan jy bedoel jy gaan nie meer DA stem nie.
@@Tinker8531😂😂 exactly, even the da
Hm, the Municipality should not carry costs for any infrastructure on a property that will not own, like a Public Township in which the local authority takes ownership of all roads, infrastructure and certain properties where applicable as endowments. afaik.
This is a basic development principle, makes one wonder what backhanded dealings were being done here by the DA
Wonder how much FF were propest not putting S A first
Would be interesting to hear the former major side of the story.
Yes I agree fully!!!
True
As a DA member I m worried. Put ego's aside, please! Put South Africa first. Is it so blooming difficult?
Well said Doc Mulder, the DA must start listening and stop behaving like it knows it all.I salute Oom Piet he is taking the bull by the horns,he has become a rising star with in the SA community.HELLEN ZILLE must learn to SHUT UP
I really dont care who is in power. DA, FF+, action sa... whomever. Just as long as things get fixed and work as they are supposed to.
Criminals go to jail
Lights stay on
Roads and rail get fixed
Schools are built...
So that ALL South Africans get an opportunity to better themselves.
A true leader
Reading some of the comments it appears to me that some people just don't seem to understand what Dr Mulder explained. As a FFPlus supporter I support Dr mulder completly with his arguments and if there is one person who understands collition governments that's him..either you work together or you don't and in the Oudsooren case the DA did not cooperate well
This DECENTRALISED and LOCAL government is the very BEST way to go!! Congrats Corne!! :)
Arrogance is going to be the downfall of the DA
Dr Mulder is such an asset to SA. Bravo!
Sounds like the councilor of the DA in Outshoorn is getting a kickback from the developer...... hence he wants the City to pay for the moving of the pipe...
As a Citizen of this Country i dont care which party is in charge as long as they give us what we pay for. We get service delivery etc. Im so tired of all this politics and squabbling. Like a bunch brats.
It was evident before the National Election that Corne was going to be an obstacle for the DA as he was always hanging on the shoulders with the the PA however, citing with the ANC is something else!! Not voting for them again.
Such integrity evidenced here from the FF
Mulder wants to work with ANC - I think FF+ is a bit jealous of DA. FF+ will lose voters due to them working with the ANC.
Makes you think of PFP.Same people.
Hellen Zille must go. I'm sorry but we hear this from multiple actors now. This baasskap nonsense must stop. For ALL parties. The monopoly is over
You hardly got ANY votes yet your party ends up getting the Prison portfolio! Its actually a more important portfolio than you seem to think! Be grateful that you are represented in the GNU!
I think our politicians can be happy with the work they have done on you.
Government is a service to the people, not a competition between politicians where they get rewarded on the basis of election outcomes.
I think the people should be grateful for having someone like Corne in government.
He’s just bitter they did terribly in WC provincial election…
I have always voted DA and backed Helen, but you need to retire. Myself and my children have to live with your legacy. Your time is up. You cannot always be right. Learn to please compromise.
I believe what Corné says. Sometimes the DA is their own worst enemy. Do they not realise that the DA will never govern SA on their own.
What on earth.
Why would they sleep with the devil
The DA's arrogance will bring them down.
Oudtshoorn is a an absolute dive of a town. It needs someone with a Business mind to manage it. ANC messed it up previously! The political parties ruined it!
Just like Knysna. I don't understand why we still tolerate this political party system.
@@maseratifittipaldiLol. Its the _best_ system we couldve asked for. Stop blaming the system for how the people vote. You're not going to change that by replacing our current system with the rotten brittish system either, if anything, that will only make things worse.
Every single party that the DA has worked with says they are arrogant, spineless and/or corrupt. Every. Single. Party.
@@Tchalla88 an arrogant person cant be both.... spineless??? Helen Zille bulldozed anyone in front of her.
@@PhilidaFortune well in that case she must have broken a record. She has been called more things than a shape shifting cat. By every. single. party she has worked with. As well as a lot of DA leaders. It's quite impressive actually
The young guy from the DA made more sense in the KykNet piece with Lourensa. Corne also came across rude by interrupting his co interviewee.
O, I didn't notice that, I'll listen again.
Agree 💯, was very disappointed
I missed that too, but if the part where he declared that " this is MY budget" is true, then that is unforgiveable arrogance.
it isn't the first time the DA's displayed intransigence.
Are the DA ministers not getting on with their jobs well?
I think Helen Zille might just manage to collapse the GNU by trying to portray Ramaphosa as her puppet as some many people in the ANC are against this GNU and they don't need any encouragement to collapse it.
Some obviously think not!! The DA works very hard for this country as it is!!
The FF+ is such a small party but they want ro run the show. Good luck with the ANC, wont last long. You could never work with DA. Always on your own, such a shame
We don't care what happens to the FF+ - they are really insignificant
DA supporter.
Just not too insignificant to have ousted a DA major, apparently frustrating you no end in the process.
@@georgekrause5661 Oh, so corruption and bad governance is ok when the DA does it? That makes you no better than an ANC supporter. Bhaaah bhaaah!
The ANC Lite
When is Rob Hersov coming on to comment on the GNU
Tony Leon retired gracefully. Helen Zilla should do the same.
No!!
The DA in Tshwane, also act like mafia towards the citizens.
Intimidation is their game and most likely comes from a senior leadership pattern.
FF+ your true colours are also showing
Absolutely, DA need to humble themselves and lose their arrogance
Or FF+ is trying to subvert the DA
What arrogance
Please take note of what has happened here.The Ff+received a mandate from a specific demographic. White people on mostly lower economic standing. THE current budget in Oudtshoorn has been a point of contention for this demographic for a while.The FF then raised this concern and subsequently voted as per the mandate they received. For me that is representing your constituency. The business community in Oudtshoorn for years have boasted that they have their arms elbow deep in the backsides of the council and the DA
Lastly if white Afrikaners just change their fixation on skin colour and realise that yhe discrimination of today is based on economic standing they will especially find the place they belong.
I mean I don't know what yhe is but anyway, I think it's a huge generalization to say that Afrikaners are racist. You're stereotyping 2.7 million people!
Im so happy people are seeing the true nature of the DA! Always playing a game instead of just getting to work.
Dankie Corne. Puik verduideliking. Thanks Alex. Outstanding program.
That sort of mature analysis of political maneuvering is the reason I vote FF+. Well said, Mr Mulder.
But, if I may make a suggestion:
The DA after Tony Leon has been abysmal about answering correspondence from concerned voters.
Your party appears to be even worse.
it is a critical error in my view.
Exactly. They are all over you at election time, but after that you don't count anymore. Too busy making money or covering their wickets.
you and 2 other people lol
The FF Plus was the biggest loser from the DA's ingenious coalition pact prior to the elections. Steenhuisen successfully took back much of the support the DA lost over the years to the FF. Things just haven't been the same after this and now we are witnessing the unravelling of old and new relationships since the dawn of the GNU. Still though, hooking up with the ANC....
The DA has got too big for its boots becoming AUTOCRATIC.
The FF+ party really seems like a genuine player in the GNU putting people 1st.
Even Helen Zille is creating divisions with her comments within the GNU and at this point the DA seems more like the bully in the room trying to tell everyone and all-knowing. There is nothing "Democratic" in what I hear from how this DA ex-mayor handled the situation. Sounds more like typical cadre behaviour.
DA being as prideful as they are will be their downfall
We have two parties with exactly the same policies on paper (DA) and (ANC) only difference is the leadership. And yet people believe by voting for any one of them you are going to change the country? 😂
The DA getting Agriculture portfolio, gives them direct access to communicate with the farming communities who are generally FF+ supporters. This is definitly a significant issue for the FF+ in staying relevant and not losing further support to the DA.
Corne Mulder is a gem. He is a minefield of good sense and should be used more often as a sounding board. the DA are marching to their own death knell by all of this talking downward arrogance. My view is that they too will wane away along with EFF for their attitude towards working together with the rest of the representation in parliament.
Why? Why? Please can somebody the DA write, write and answer why they let this to happen. Please.
DA is so arrogant and bully others, that's the big problem and it will be their downfall
‘n Politieke party is ‘n politieke party… Kiesers moet na partye se manifestos kyk maar mense is LUI en vat ons demokrasie vir niks, dit lyk dit het sommer maklik gekom. Go VF+! Om saam te werk vir die goed van die kiesers is die enigste weg vorentoe. AMANDLA AWETHU!
Don’t trust this at all.. smells
Dr. Mulder, as the adult in the room you are now coming across as a carping Ken. Siding with the ANC risks your party losing more votes in future elections.
FF PLUS WAS conned to give up their votes by the same DA,...
No. As a matter of fact they have won massive respect in the community, and from all political parties: they are willing to work together and they hold leadership ACCOUNTABLE. They are SERVING their community. Massive respect to them.
@@cchris5958 Really - do you live in Oudtshoorn? Because if you do you are living in LALA land. Just look at the result of this last election and the next Municipal elections will be coming soon. Words mean nothing.... look at the votes!
@@cchris5958 with1.5% oh please this is obviously just trying to stay relevant ...
Can you believe all this over a R3m shitpipe? Really FF+, grow up.
Apparently there was other "favours" for the same developer......Ask myself why? Also why was the City Planner guy fired?
dont blame the pipe for hamhanded actions by the mayor
@@michaelwebb3979 the DA has always been good at corruption in favour of developers. Same in Cape Town.
It all starts with a Lil 3mil next thing the development does not pay rates and get favorable treatment, see how corruption takes shape?
The FF+ should ask the DA directly in parliament if the party serves their charter, democracy or Helen...
The us and them especially in local legislators is unhelpful as there is differing opinions and other options that can be tabled by different parties. A mayor and speaker has to learn to manage this complexity.
This is made extra complex by adding political party agendas. If the locals were left on their own they could sort things out themselves.
If you guys don't know that Herman is the biggest flip flopper in the political arena,so we don't care what herman does.
I believed him right up to the end when he tried to frame the 3 to 7 power sharing insult as Lesufi just being "a bit difficult to work with". Which I hope we all know, was not the case.
DA fooling the South Africa