I have said it from the beginning... Unregulated and unlimited NIL and transfer portal BS will DESTROY college football as we know it. Bama players have always had loyalty and team first attitude, but times are changing for everyone. Sad. Most of the good players Bama just lost were bought. Really not due to Saban retiring.
Bama fan here: Just going off Saban’s personality that we have all grown to love or hate.. going back to his years @ LSU when he really solidified himself as an elite coach; he has always been a conservative. A hardass. No bull$hit type. Things are done a certain way (the right way). Peete, you’re right, of course Saban is not an NIL advocate. There is not one coach in America that really supports NIL. Not one. I bet Saban dislikes NIL/Transfer portal MORE THAN ANY OTHER COACH in America. Which makes it even more impressive as to how much he adapted throughout his career. Bravo. GOAT
As long as recruit well, which we do we can compete. If we developed that talent we will win. I agree with Dabos concept, but you have to have the right position coaches to develope the talent. That is what has been missing at Clemson for at least 4 years.
I figured that was pretty much how Saban stood on the NIL issue. The guy was just trying to give it time and see how it worked out, but still try to see if it was as bad as he thought it would be. I don't blame him. Tough situation.
Here is what is wrong with NIL....Catlin Clark is worth 3.2 million in NIL money ...women's basketball (an already losing money sport, nationally) yet, she declared for the wnba draft for a max salary of approximately 75k per year...however, she already has so many endorsements she foregoed another eligible college season to rack up now...Who can blame her for that.....
I think a lot of folks have NIL and endorsements conflated...NIL is what allows players to get paid for endorsements...so when you see for example, Arch Manning with a $7 Mil NIL...he is not being paid $7 mil...it is an estimate of what he could make from endorsements; for example... Gatorade may want him to endorse their product so Gatorade pays him $500K or Addidas may want him to endorse a shoe...they may pay him $250K or McDonalds want him to endorse their burger...they may pay him $100K...or Chevy may want to give him a car... $60K....not all kids will get that type of endorsement...so now there is a collective of boosters that may contribute $5 mil to a pot...and based on a kids evaluation of his brand...which is the NIL...this kid could get $15K from the collective...while Arch is able to get $1 mil from endorsements.....and Dabo was correct; some institutions use their collective to lure kids away... cough cough Texas cough cough Georgia...Clemson has the 1st NIL institute to train players how to brand themselves, they have PAW Journey, the 1st of it kind to help prepare Clemson graduates with interns for life after football... Clemson graduate nearly 100% of their recruits....they get state of the art physical therapy, healthy meals, and a free education all worth well over $100K each...Dabo does a great job of evaluating and recruiting men...he is leading the way...I don't think he should play that portal game...not worth infusing kids of lower character...and another CU coach has expressed the same concerns with the portal even with his high use of it to rebuild his program....Dabo was right from the beginning and Clemson does not need to play the portal game
The bottom line is no one is paying season tickets to watch Dabo Swinney on the sideline or to hear him bitch and moan at about NIL. Fans/donors are paying money to watch Clemson win games. Without the players, this doesn’t happen. Without the players, these athletic programs can’t keep the lights on. Without the players, there are no TV contracts, no ticket sales, no merchandise sold. Without the players, we wouldn’t even know who or what a Dabo is. The players are the product! Damn right they’re going to get paid. Toothpaste is out of the tube. Good luck trying to put it back in.
Agreed! I'm like Dabo in I think NIL and transfer portal or good for players but it must be regulated. Hell even the NFL has regulations and caps. I'm not sure what exact model would be best but the wild wild west is not it. Transfers must be limited and each University must have an overall equal cap for starters.
Oh Nicky you’re so fine, you’re so fine… hey Nicky…🎼🎤 By the way, Dabo has been right way more than he has been wrong, but like with Trump… the haters are gonna hate!
Coaches need to stop giving them what they want and say there is the door. At UGA Kirby will always have the best roster possible. There has to be enough of the top schools that do this and it gets leaked.
Dabo is trying to maintain culture while we transition through the NIL change. Eventually ppl will realize the real value of players and it will settle down and programs that sold out are gonna have the ‘giveme’ guys and Other programs will have the ‘teach me’ guys
I think the NCAA at some point will step in and make some changes in the way the NIL and the transfer portal. Short term, It’s gonna hurt schools like Clemson and Dabo’s philosophy but in the long run the NCAA will tweak it to make it right.
Wrong, the ones now over the ncaa are destroying college football on purpose. And you are going to see exactly that. You are giving seventeen and eighteen year olds power over the entire sport, most of which have no father or a solid upbringing. A recipe for disaster, and the vultures to scam these soon to be less educated players are in place to remove these kids from as much nil money as possible. Not a pretty prospect, but it all about money.
I think it's more that there is not a fair or transparent system setup currently to handle NIL/transfer portal. I think we are getting there but still some time away. I get why coaches are frustrated. They are losing some of the power they had established. No one ever likes losing power in any walk of life.
The only thing good about the portal and nil is that it levels the playing field, no team in college football will go on some dominant spree in the next ten years ,Georgia thinks they will, but the love for money and notoriety is bigger than nick Saban and Kirby smart,lot more teams can compete now and thats a good thing
He's not boycotting the transfer portal but he's also not getting into a bidding war. He's tried to use it but the guys that he wanted, went elsewhere for the money.
@@glockman9c The transfer portal wouldn't fix that. Hiring component offensive position coaches will. We aren't losing many players to the portal, it's a development issue right now.
Clemson has a lot of competition in buying players now, and its going to be a long shot in doing that. My niece went there ten years ago before the BS you see now. She saw 90% of the football team drove luxury vehicles, and they had no jobs.
@@willeubanks4957 I just seen your uneducated comment about how DaBos recruiting is down ? Can you please make that make sense. DaBo just had two players drafted in the first round last year but yea he is not developing them let alone the other 8 guys drafted in the 2nd round an after. Did you know Clemson built the first NIL building for players in the country? Na you didn't because you just like repeating what you read. An please keep that same mindset at the end of this year. I heard the same shit for the last decade lmao
I am hoping that 《No, expecting) that the Tigers have a great year, and coaches will revert to staying away from the mercenaries. Plus the NCAA will start enforcing the tampering! Who offered the Tiger 2nd teamer 200,000 last year? 😮
Good stuff, when's the last time Clemson made the playoffs again? Don't look now but the real ACC powerhouses are back, that's FSU and Miami. Clemson is done!!
We knew NIL and the portal would create parody for most other schools. That is a lot more schools get better players, the elite coordinators are in shorter demand as more get HC'ing jobs. The work load would massively increase for a HC as you have to be on the move constantly, fending off other schools tampering and reach a desired NIL compensation with collectives. This isn't something a 72 year old like Saban wants to do. Plus, ugly displays of poor sportsmanship he said didn't help after the Michigan loss. Dabo has two choices, adapt or quit. There is no world in which he can trash the NIL and portal, not participate in this rat race and expect to compete. Also considering what changes may lie ahead in relation to Clemson and a possible future conference change.
Capitalism is the way of life in the USA. Adults 18+ should have been able to capitalize on their name, image, and likeness while playing in college. Coaches are the biggest “ME” guys at these institutions.
Capitalism is fine if you control the "greed factor". You can't have the inmates running the asylum. 18 year Olds if given the power to make millions of dollars overnight will make bad decisions. All of sports is out of whack for what they pay coaches and players. That doesn't make it right. Let's keep some of the seediness out of College sports. We shouldn't have college freshmen using extortion to "get what they want"
They are damaging it on purpose, these are left wingers that absolutely hate anyone else's successes. Watch as these young guys get cheated out of that money and will have little to no education when it is over.
Oh man stop your belly aching the hell with Saban and dabo it's funny that for decades upon decades the coaches and the conferences an schools been making a fortune while still trying to claim amateurism which was a lie then an lie now coaches like Saban an dabo are nothing but users it's amazing how nothing is bad as long as everyone make millions except the players and the coaches can move around when they want to stop it nobody cares about the fools gold at end of dabo an Saban rainbow Saban quit because he saw that he wasn't getting all the best players anymore and wasn't going to get them all in future that's why he quit he using the NIL as a escape goat because he act like he's the only coach has to deal with NIL no Saban no dabo every coach is dealing with and you figure it out i don't give a dam about what dabo said dabo has been an after thought he's done nothing in last couple years I don't care what dabo said I'm rollin with these players and I hope they get everything they can because they deserve they are the ones supply the cash flow that help pay for all the other sports and programs except for basketball if Saban wanted to continue coaching he could've he saw landscape right before his very eyes that he was really going to have to contend an have stiffer competition and the new college playoff system that's what he was afraid of not no NIL every team deal with he's not getting a pass with nonsense old saint Nick ain't no saint and neither is dabo as long as they getting alot of the best players their fine until they really get competition competitive playing field then they immediately start crying bitchin an moaning saban dabo STOP IT you bunch of hypocrites.
I have said it from the beginning...
Unregulated and unlimited NIL and transfer portal BS will DESTROY college football as we know it.
Bama players have always had loyalty and team first attitude, but times are changing for everyone. Sad.
Most of the good players Bama just lost were bought. Really not due to Saban retiring.
Bama fan here:
Just going off Saban’s personality that we have all grown to love or hate.. going back to his years @ LSU when he really solidified himself as an elite coach; he has always been a conservative. A hardass. No bull$hit type. Things are done a certain way (the right way). Peete, you’re right, of course Saban is not an NIL advocate. There is not one coach in America that really supports NIL. Not one. I bet Saban dislikes NIL/Transfer portal MORE THAN ANY OTHER COACH in America. Which makes it even more impressive as to how much he adapted throughout his career. Bravo. GOAT
As long as recruit well, which we do we can compete. If we developed that talent we will win. I agree with Dabos concept, but you have to have the right position coaches to develope the talent. That is what has been missing at Clemson for at least 4 years.
Matt Luke is a big step in fixing that. The defense will be just fine but it's been lacking on the offensive side of the ball.
I figured that was pretty much how Saban stood on the NIL issue. The guy was just trying to give it time and see how it worked out, but still try to see if it was as bad as he thought it would be. I don't blame him. Tough situation.
Here is what is wrong with NIL....Catlin Clark is worth 3.2 million in NIL money ...women's basketball (an already losing money sport, nationally) yet, she declared for the wnba draft for a max salary of approximately 75k per year...however, she already has so many endorsements she foregoed another eligible college season to rack up now...Who can blame her for that.....
I think a lot of folks have NIL and endorsements conflated...NIL is what allows players to get paid for endorsements...so when you see for example, Arch Manning with a $7 Mil NIL...he is not being paid $7 mil...it is an estimate of what he could make from endorsements; for example... Gatorade may want him to endorse their product so Gatorade pays him $500K or Addidas may want him to endorse a shoe...they may pay him $250K or McDonalds want him to endorse their burger...they may pay him $100K...or Chevy may want to give him a car... $60K....not all kids will get that type of endorsement...so now there is a collective of boosters that may contribute $5 mil to a pot...and based on a kids evaluation of his brand...which is the NIL...this kid could get $15K from the collective...while Arch is able to get $1 mil from endorsements.....and Dabo was correct; some institutions use their collective to lure kids away... cough cough Texas cough cough Georgia...Clemson has the 1st NIL institute to train players how to brand themselves, they have PAW Journey, the 1st of it kind to help prepare Clemson graduates with interns for life after football... Clemson graduate nearly 100% of their recruits....they get state of the art physical therapy, healthy meals, and a free education all worth well over $100K each...Dabo does a great job of evaluating and recruiting men...he is leading the way...I don't think he should play that portal game...not worth infusing kids of lower character...and another CU coach has expressed the same concerns with the portal even with his high use of it to rebuild his program....Dabo was right from the beginning and Clemson does not need to play the portal game
The bottom line is no one is paying season tickets to watch Dabo Swinney on the sideline or to hear him bitch and moan at about NIL. Fans/donors are paying money to watch Clemson win games. Without the players, this doesn’t happen. Without the players, these athletic programs can’t keep the lights on. Without the players, there are no TV contracts, no ticket sales, no merchandise sold. Without the players, we wouldn’t even know who or what a Dabo is. The players are the product! Damn right they’re going to get paid. Toothpaste is out of the tube. Good luck trying to put it back in.
Agreed! I'm like Dabo in I think NIL and transfer portal or good for players but it must be regulated. Hell even the NFL has regulations and caps. I'm not sure what exact model would be best but the wild wild west is not it. Transfers must be limited and each University must have an overall equal cap for starters.
Time to retire. The genie is out of the bottle.😂
Oh Nicky you’re so fine, you’re so fine… hey Nicky…🎼🎤 By the way, Dabo has been right way more than he has been wrong, but like with Trump… the haters are gonna hate!
You are correct sir
Your correct #rolltide
They crucified Jesus.
Delusional football fans like this shouldn't be allowed to vote. Yikes 😬
Billy Jack is a detective down in Texas.
I can already see myself not watching college football anymore.
Coaches need to stop giving them what they want and say there is the door. At UGA Kirby will always have the best roster possible. There has to be enough of the top schools that do this and it gets leaked.
You obviously don’t know shit. Kirby isn’t immune to this lmao
Saban wasnt lmao
Dabo is trying to maintain culture while we transition through the NIL change. Eventually ppl will realize the real value of players and it will settle down and programs that sold out are gonna have the ‘giveme’ guys and Other programs will have the ‘teach me’ guys
I think the NCAA at some point will step in and make some changes in the way the NIL and the transfer portal. Short term, It’s gonna hurt schools like Clemson and Dabo’s philosophy but in the long run the NCAA will tweak it to make it right.
Wrong, the ones now over the ncaa are destroying college football on purpose. And you are going to see exactly that. You are giving seventeen and eighteen year olds power over the entire sport, most of which have no father or a solid upbringing. A recipe for disaster, and the vultures to scam these soon to be less educated players are in place to remove these kids from as much nil money as possible. Not a pretty prospect, but it all about money.
I think it's more that there is not a fair or transparent system setup currently to handle NIL/transfer portal. I think we are getting there but still some time away. I get why coaches are frustrated. They are losing some of the power they had established. No one ever likes losing power in any walk of life.
The only thing good about the portal and nil is that it levels the playing field, no team in college football will go on some dominant spree in the next ten years ,Georgia thinks they will, but the love for money and notoriety is bigger than nick Saban and Kirby smart,lot more teams can compete now and thats a good thing
Dabo is getting heat for boycotting the transfer portal and for finishing worst than the year before for 4 or 5 years in row.
He's not boycotting the transfer portal but he's also not getting into a bidding war. He's tried to use it but the guys that he wanted, went elsewhere for the money.
@@porschepal7932 - well regardless, he is finishing worse every year.
@@glockman9c The transfer portal wouldn't fix that. Hiring component offensive position coaches will. We aren't losing many players to the portal, it's a development issue right now.
Hell ga paid 4mil to keep there QB!
That’s ridiculous
Man! I can't wait until Clemson wins another natty. If it happens soon, watch the narrative and landscape change. He's on the right track 😊
Clemson has a lot of competition in buying players now, and its going to be a long shot in doing that. My niece went there ten years ago before the BS you see now. She saw 90% of the football team drove luxury vehicles, and they had no jobs.
The difference is Saban adapted and kept Alabama at a top level, Dabo didn’t and his program is just another top 20-25 team
😂 the way you people talk like DaBo is done coaching. Please pay attention this year. DaBo will be back in the playoffs
@@cadeklubdik6040 doesn't matter if Clemson makes the playoffs. They'll get smoked by anyone they play. There is nothing special about them anymore.
@@willeubanks4957 I just seen your uneducated comment about how DaBos recruiting is down ? Can you please make that make sense. DaBo just had two players drafted in the first round last year but yea he is not developing them let alone the other 8 guys drafted in the 2nd round an after.
Did you know Clemson built the first NIL building for players in the country? Na you didn't because you just like repeating what you read. An please keep that same mindset at the end of this year. I heard the same shit for the last decade lmao
The scratch is in Florida
They'll need a Front Office with a GM to handle all the player chaos... like the Pros.
This train is rolling…. Need guard rails
I am hoping that
《No, expecting) that the Tigers have a great year, and coaches will revert to staying away from the mercenaries. Plus the NCAA will start enforcing the tampering! Who offered the Tiger 2nd teamer 200,000 last year? 😮
Who cares about the tigers? Wrong channel
It was bad of them asking a man making 10 million a year how much can I make. DABO IS THE SAME EXCEPT HE SUCKS.
Good stuff, when's the last time Clemson made the playoffs again? Don't look now but the real ACC powerhouses are back, that's FSU and Miami. Clemson is done!!
When's the last time FSU or Miami made the playoffs....
Those must be some great drugs you are on
FSU should have been in as should Georgia this past season
We knew NIL and the portal would create parody for most other schools. That is a lot more schools get better players, the elite coordinators are in shorter demand as more get HC'ing jobs. The work load would massively increase for a HC as you have to be on the move constantly, fending off other schools tampering and reach a desired NIL compensation with collectives. This isn't something a 72 year old like Saban wants to do. Plus, ugly displays of poor sportsmanship he said didn't help after the Michigan loss. Dabo has two choices, adapt or quit. There is no world in which he can trash the NIL and portal, not participate in this rat race and expect to compete. Also considering what changes may lie ahead in relation to Clemson and a possible future conference change.
Capitalism is the way of life in the USA. Adults 18+ should have been able to capitalize on their name, image, and likeness while playing in college. Coaches are the biggest “ME” guys at these institutions.
Fine, pay your own way through school plus all the costs of coaching training, etc
After all, that's the American way y!
Capitalism is fine if you control the "greed factor". You can't have the inmates running the asylum. 18 year Olds if given the power to make millions of dollars overnight will make bad decisions. All of sports is out of whack for what they pay coaches and players. That doesn't make it right. Let's keep some of the seediness out of College sports. We shouldn't have college freshmen using extortion to "get what they want"
@@Legendary_UA I’m certain the players will be more than happy to pay for their education once they are properly paid for their services.
Clemson will likely be terrible again.
You should bought the stock when Dabo told you
You hope they will, but stay tuned
Don't worry about poor Dabo, that cupcake schedule is designed to keep him competitive no matter what.
The NCAA fkd up when they never had legislation passes to prevent this implosion.
Starting unregulated NIL was the literal opening of Pandora's box
They are damaging it on purpose, these are left wingers that absolutely hate anyone else's successes. Watch as these young guys get cheated out of that money and will have little to no education when it is over.
Oh man stop your belly aching the hell with Saban and dabo it's funny that for decades upon decades the coaches and the conferences an schools been making a fortune while still trying to claim amateurism which was a lie then an lie now coaches like Saban an dabo are nothing but users it's amazing how nothing is bad as long as everyone make millions except the players and the coaches can move around when they want to stop it nobody cares about the fools gold at end of dabo an Saban rainbow Saban quit because he saw that he wasn't getting all the best players anymore and wasn't going to get them all in future that's why he quit he using the NIL as a escape goat because he act like he's the only coach has to deal with NIL no Saban no dabo every coach is dealing with and you figure it out i don't give a dam about what dabo said dabo has been an after thought he's done nothing in last couple years I don't care what dabo said I'm rollin with these players and I hope they get everything they can because they deserve they are the ones supply the cash flow that help pay for all the other sports and programs except for basketball if Saban wanted to continue coaching he could've he saw landscape right before his very eyes that he was really going to have to contend an have stiffer competition and the new college playoff system that's what he was afraid of not no NIL every team deal with he's not getting a pass with nonsense old saint Nick ain't no saint and neither is dabo as long as they getting alot of the best players their fine until they really get competition competitive playing field then they immediately start crying bitchin an moaning saban dabo STOP IT you bunch of hypocrites.