Mario Andretti trying to stop his own wheel running past him just having avoided quite terrible unpleasantries stands crown witness to that era 🌹. Thankyou.
At the tender age of 13 years old, this was the first time I got to see the race live in a theater (CCTV). Then the rains came. Monday was a school day, so I never got to see the finish...until now.
Well, that's what the narrator of the film used in this presentation, Dynamic Films' Ralph Camargo, referred to the turbine car as throughout the film.
Ford Motor Company had too much invested to let the turbine survive as a power plant for an Indy car. It was Ford that applied the pressure to USAC to restrict the turbines to the point they weren't competitive.
Andy Granatelli had such hard luck at Indy. He spent a lot of money and years trying to win the race with the Novis, even developing a 4wd version, and never won. Then he built the turbine car, first ever to run at Indy, combining it with 4wd, and created a superior car. Normally cars that have so much new technology in them are too trouble-prone to even be on the pace, but the turbine was immediately there. If the Racing Gods were just, Granatelli's car would have won the '67 race. Then USAC came in and cut the allowable air intake area for turbine cars to make them uncompetitive. Granatelli had a new car designed for '68, and was still competitive. USAC cut inlet area again for '69, and made turbines uncompetitive once and for all.
And of course, 1969 happened to be the year Granatelli was to find victory lane for the first time. But even after that, his notorious bad luck returned. Both of his cars in the 1971 race were eliminated in the same incident, Art Pollard wrecked one of Granatelli's cars in 1972 after qualifying it, and that car would catch fire in the pits numerous times in that year's race with Wally Dallenbach driving it, though his other driver, Mike Hiss, controversially won Rookie of the Year honors over Sam Posey, who should have won it. Then came 1973, the year Granatelli teamed up with Pat Patrick, and Granatelli's infamous bad luck even continued in victory, because while Gordon Johncock won that year's race in one of the STP cars, Swede Savage suffered what were to be fatal burns during that race, and then Armando Teran, who was on the crew for the team's third car, driven in the race by Graham McRae, who like Hiss the year before, would be Indy's rookie of the Year, was killed when he was run over by a fire truck going the wrong way up pit road that was trying to help fight the fire from Savage's car. And even after that, the Granatelli-Patrick combo was headed for victory in both 1975 (with Dallenbach) and 1977 (with Johncock) when engine-related problems robbed them of certain victory.
@eriq affandi, I don't, due to the fact hat I'd have to combine multiple versions into one, but the user doctorindy has both the Legends of the Brickyard and Indy 500: The Classics episodes that dealt with the 1977 race. each has footage not seen in the other, and both series dealt with the races from 1975-'89.
Hard to say, though the first year they ran the turbines, Andy Granatelli predicted the car's ultimate downfall, because he told the engineers that the bearing would break. Another overlooked factor is the rash of cautions in the 1967 race and the lengthy caution late in the 1968 race for Carl Williams' crash and stubborn fire on the backstretch, and that so much time spent running under caution might have also affected the gearboxes of those cars. Granted, they didn't slow down that much back then (the PACER light system, which marked the first time the really slowed the cars under caution, didn't exist until 1972), but the fact that they were running slower could have affected those cars late in both the 1967 and '68 races.
Granted, it was a sloppy race. What about driver Parnelli Jones attempting to pass on the inside and coming into contact with Lee Roy Yarbrough's car. Could the Turbine car have suffered any slight damage that may have affected it later in the race?
@@deanmarkoshan2129 Not likely. A bigger concern, which didn't turn out to be much of a concern, would have been the result of the end of that first pit stop, when Parnelli left his pit before the fuel hose was completely disconnected. Two years later, a similar miscue took Lloyd Ruby completely out of the race. But Parnelli was able to make his second pit stop without incident, and while they were concerned about fuel near the end of the race, even with all the time spent under caution, that had nothing to do with why his car failed at the end.
The edited broadcast of the race is here. Just past the 10 minute mark, you'll hear the sound of it "whooshing" by. ruclips.net/video/iVzKKYlu5vw/видео.html
Only Andy Granatelli, who was probably the greatest showman auto racing has ever known, would've even thought about dressing his pit crew in that kind of attire. And only the crew for his turbine car that year was dressed up in that attire. None of the crewmen of the Lotus team, which he was a partner in for their Indy efforts from 1966-'68, were in that attire, and nor were the crewmen for his teams in later years, including when his cars won the Indianapolis 500 in 1969 and '73.
@@aureliobrighton1871 In addition to sponsoring the turbine car, Andy Granatelli's STP corporation was sponsoring the Lotus team (hence the red cars), as had been the case in 1966, when Jim Clark and Al Unser were the drivers. Actually, Granatelli and Colin Chapman's Lotus team had quite the partnership, because in 1968, they teamed up again to run the wedge-shaped turbine cars and the car Mario Andretti was originally slated to drive in 1969 was also a 4WD Lotus, but a wheel crystallized and broke, resulting in Mario crashing, and Chapman withdrew the rest of the Lotus cars he'd entered with Granatelli, and Lotus never returned to Indy.
@@cjs83172Very kind, thankyou. And I also learned in 1969 magic Signore Andretti was able to qualify yet another racer from the STP stable while carrying fresh burns from the mentioned crash. I live in Germany, still that 60s and 70s Indy period has tremendous appeal, especially in context with what was going on over here. Fantastic history :)
Mario Andretti trying to stop his own wheel running past him just having avoided quite terrible unpleasantries stands crown witness to that era 🌹. Thankyou.
My first 500 - then attended every year through 2016. Great memories with my dad!
1967 was the year I graduated from high school - my birthday was May 30 and I graduated June 1, 1967.
At the tender age of 13 years old, this was the first time I got to see the race live in a theater (CCTV). Then the rains came. Monday was a school day, so I never got to see the finish...until now.
I love that we can listen to Tom Carnegie's voice on this.
I can still hear Tom Carnegie say, "Another track record..."
As much as i love engenering proces to feed the need for speed, my race heart beats for front engine Indy Roadsters. Love these cars!
First time I've seen a team crew wearing pajamas at a race. 😄
Holy cow, i never knew that there was turbo car in 1967!
Well, that's what the narrator of the film used in this presentation, Dynamic Films' Ralph Camargo, referred to the turbine car as throughout the film.
Ford Motor Company had too much invested to let the turbine survive as a power plant for an Indy car. It was Ford that applied the pressure to USAC to restrict the turbines to the point they weren't competitive.
Andy Granatelli had such hard luck at Indy. He spent a lot of money and years trying to win the race with the Novis, even developing a 4wd version, and never won. Then he built the turbine car, first ever to run at Indy, combining it with 4wd, and created a superior car. Normally cars that have so much new technology in them are too trouble-prone to even be on the pace, but the turbine was immediately there. If the Racing Gods were just, Granatelli's car would have won the '67 race. Then USAC came in and cut the allowable air intake area for turbine cars to make them uncompetitive. Granatelli had a new car designed for '68, and was still competitive. USAC cut inlet area again for '69, and made turbines uncompetitive once and for all.
And of course, 1969 happened to be the year Granatelli was to find victory lane for the first time. But even after that, his notorious bad luck returned. Both of his cars in the 1971 race were eliminated in the same incident, Art Pollard wrecked one of Granatelli's cars in 1972 after qualifying it, and that car would catch fire in the pits numerous times in that year's race with Wally Dallenbach driving it, though his other driver, Mike Hiss, controversially won Rookie of the Year honors over Sam Posey, who should have won it.
Then came 1973, the year Granatelli teamed up with Pat Patrick, and Granatelli's infamous bad luck even continued in victory, because while Gordon Johncock won that year's race in one of the STP cars, Swede Savage suffered what were to be fatal burns during that race, and then Armando Teran, who was on the crew for the team's third car, driven in the race by Graham McRae, who like Hiss the year before, would be Indy's rookie of the Year, was killed when he was run over by a fire truck going the wrong way up pit road that was trying to help fight the fire from Savage's car.
And even after that, the Granatelli-Patrick combo was headed for victory in both 1975 (with Dallenbach) and 1977 (with Johncock) when engine-related problems robbed them of certain victory.
It's like the Pre-Modern era version of the 1994 event!
Linda pelicula
Do you have a 1977 Indy 500 video ?
@eriq affandi, I don't, due to the fact hat I'd have to combine multiple versions into one, but the user doctorindy has both the Legends of the Brickyard and Indy 500: The Classics episodes that dealt with the 1977 race. each has footage not seen in the other, and both series dealt with the races from 1975-'89.
A.J Foyt was lucky that year
パーネリージョーンズが勝つと思ってテレビ中継見てました。 60年代、AJフォイトは平均して強かった
懐かしいドライバーの名前が出て来ます. . クラーク、ヒルアンドレッティ、アンサー 、ガーニー 、ヤーボローetc
60年代は永遠
In hindsight, knowing the power of the Turbine engine, could the engineers have over built the gearbox to with stand the tremendous torque developed?
Hard to say, though the first year they ran the turbines, Andy Granatelli predicted the car's ultimate downfall, because he told the engineers that the bearing would break. Another overlooked factor is the rash of cautions in the 1967 race and the lengthy caution late in the 1968 race for Carl Williams' crash and stubborn fire on the backstretch, and that so much time spent running under caution might have also affected the gearboxes of those cars. Granted, they didn't slow down that much back then (the PACER light system, which marked the first time the really slowed the cars under caution, didn't exist until 1972), but the fact that they were running slower could have affected those cars late in both the 1967 and '68 races.
Granted, it was a sloppy race. What about driver Parnelli Jones attempting to pass on the inside and coming into contact with Lee Roy Yarbrough's car. Could the Turbine car have suffered any slight damage that may have affected it later in the race?
@@deanmarkoshan2129 Not likely. A bigger concern, which didn't turn out to be much of a concern, would have been the result of the end of that first pit stop, when Parnelli left his pit before the fuel hose was completely disconnected. Two years later, a similar miscue took
Lloyd Ruby completely out of the race. But Parnelli was able to make his second pit stop without incident, and while they were concerned about fuel near the end of the race, even with all the time spent under caution, that had nothing to do with why his car failed at the end.
Thank you for the detailed explanations.
Turbines and 4-wheel drive. USAC establishment couldn't beat 'em, so they banned 'em.
I wasn't born anywhere near the that time, but I wish so badly I could've been there to hear the sound of that car going by a full speed.
The edited broadcast of the race is here. Just past the 10 minute mark, you'll hear the sound of it "whooshing" by.
ruclips.net/video/iVzKKYlu5vw/видео.html
Yeah, I've watched it. It sounds cool, but must have been even better in person.
Forget the car! Surprising they weren't disqualified for those uni's! 😆
Only Andy Granatelli, who was probably the greatest showman auto racing has ever known, would've even thought about dressing his pit crew in that kind of attire. And only the crew for his turbine car that year was dressed up in that attire. None of the crewmen of the Lotus team, which he was a partner in for their Indy efforts from 1966-'68, were in that attire, and nor were the crewmen for his teams in later years, including when his cars won the Indianapolis 500 in 1969 and '73.
@@cjs83172 Well, I guess the 'Lotus in Red' was enough to digest. Otherwise thats exactly up the british roads of spleen and humour ;)
@@aureliobrighton1871 In addition to sponsoring the turbine car, Andy Granatelli's STP corporation was sponsoring the Lotus team (hence the red cars), as had been the case in 1966, when Jim Clark and Al Unser were the drivers. Actually, Granatelli and Colin Chapman's Lotus team had quite the partnership, because in 1968, they teamed up again to run the wedge-shaped turbine cars and the car Mario Andretti was originally slated to drive in 1969 was also a 4WD Lotus, but a wheel crystallized and broke, resulting in Mario crashing, and Chapman withdrew the rest of the Lotus cars he'd entered with Granatelli, and Lotus never returned to Indy.
@@cjs83172Very kind, thankyou. And I also learned in 1969 magic Signore Andretti was able to qualify yet another racer from the STP stable while carrying fresh burns from the mentioned crash. I live in Germany, still that 60s and 70s Indy period has tremendous appeal, especially in context with what was going on over here. Fantastic history :)