Thank you so much The MJCast and Brett Barnes for this wonderful intervirew! So much wonderful information. Thank you Brett for debunking LN. I'm sorry Wade, James, Dan Greed, and HBO dragged you into this.
My respect and admiration for Brett knows no bounds. It is refreshing to see that integrity still exists in a world awash with duplicity,malice,opportunism,and greed. Brett Barnes should be very proud of himself.
This interview is such a gem right now. Massive respect for Brett Barnes for keeping it real for 30 years now. I have also to point out the fact that he downplayed the ''sleeping'' narrative, since it is where most people get scandalized (understandably), I'm so glad that he confirms it wasn't MJ and the children alone, but with family members as well, and also the fact that he didn't make a big deal out of it, calling it ''just sleeping''.
Thanks MJCast for being able to facilitate an interview like this, and thanks to Charles for asking all of the right questions. Because of all the harassment Brett has received on Twitter, I figured he wasn’t fazed by it. I was disappointed to hear that I was wrong. He and his family are deeply affected by what people say. It’s funny that Dan Reed and the multiple people that harass Brett claim to be standing up for victims. However, in their ignorance they’re creating victims.
This poor man has been through so much. Brett and Michael were friends for 20 years. There was a reason for that. Brett never wanted anything from Michael. He was just a sweet, simple kid with decent parents. Unlike the Chandler family, the Arviso family, and Safechuck and Robson jackals. This interview is beautiful and heartbreaking. You can HEAR his pain. He tries very hard to compose himself. Only breaks down slightly a couple of times. Charles Thomson has always been a journalist of great integrity. We've read everything he has written and we've listened to him report for years on this tragic story. Brett trusts Mr. Thomson and knows that he is not being asked the hard questions for sensationalism. What an incredible interview. I pray that dear Brett finds some peace, some closure, after telling his story. What they've done to this man is a crime. I hope this interview will be heard by the millions of people that questioned a purely innocent friendship.
Amazing episode !! Here are some things I realized during the whole conversation: - Brett seems to be not the outgoing type. I feel you, man! - Michael's friendship with the Barnes lasted because I think the parents find Michael a nice person, nothing more. He was seen a genuine friend, not a money making machine; nor the megastar he is and the fame and money that come with it. Glad Mr Barnes agreed to speak after 29 years publicly to tell the truth about his and his family's friendship with MJ.
I agree. They didn’t take advantage of MJ and hearing this interview Brett seems like a nice down to earth genuine person. Since he and his family were not expecting anything but friendship from MJ is most likely why the friendship last. Plus Brett seems like a very like able soul. Wade wanted a career and I believe Safechuck’s family wanted a house and money (I could be wrong, but I think I heard this). It is unbelievable that after everything MJ did for these families that they turned on him when he no longer would support them financially. No wonder why MJ cut them out of his life, he could see the friendship was not authentic. Like Brett said at the end of their lives he will sleep with a clear conscience. Bless you Brett and your family.
It’s refreshing to see that integrity still exists. It was much needed interview. Actually, I’ve been waiting for it for 30 years.. Thank you, Brett, for speaking your truth and being a loyal friend to Michael.
Can I just say Brett is such a sweet, upstanding MAN in all senses of the word and Charles you did an amazing job as always. The way he answered so honestly and respected Michael as a true friend is an example to all. I’m so glad he chose MJ Cast. Thank you to everyone on the podcast and Brett Barnes.
Wondered when you guys were going to upload this on YT :) Such a good, interesting, informative interview - respect to Brett for breaking his (entirely understandable) silence, you could hear in his voice how nervous and shy he was, and you totally get a sense of just how devastating the media/social media BS has been for him and his family. It broke my heart when he kept apologising in case his anecdotes made him sound big-headed, and when he worried in case he was betraying MIchaels confidence by doing this interview. Such a humble guy. Well done to Charlie Thomson too, he handled the interview brilliantly, and all of his journalistic integrity and experience really shone through in this interview. Well done MJCast in getting this world exclusive interview :)
Wow, thank you Brett Barnes for trusting Charles Thomson & The MJCast with your interview. I feel you did this for the fans as well as your friend Michael… you have grown up to see his fan base still standing by him. We love you for always being someone he could trust… to keep your trust as an adult… you’re a good man. 🙏🏽♥️🙏🏽
A very interesting interview, thank you to Brett and Charles, totally understand why Brett didn't speak out until now, he has had so much harrasment over the years but total respect to him for giving a totally believable interview in support of Michael 👑❤
I'm sorry...I don't like how you said "totally believable interview in support of Michael". I don't think it was or should have been "in support of Michael". I think it's about telling the truth. When you say "In support of Michael" that doesn't mean the same thing to me as telling the truth. I believe Brett was telling his truth. That is way more important. Because you can be in support of someone and it doesn't mean you are telling the truth....people can be in support of someone and be hiding or covering for them. Happens all the time. We need to be careful in how we word things. I'm a Michael fan...but I'm also more interested in the truth and facts. I would never want anyone to cover for him if he was doing bad things. I'm a fan...not a stan. I can handle that Michael had flaws like everyone.
Thank you a lot! Thank yiu a lot, Charles! Your honesty will never be forgotten. Charles îs a real, profesional journalist who always fought for the truth.
Sorry… in Potuguese! Sou brasileira, traduzi toda a entrevista. Fiquei encantada com a respostas de Brett Barnies. Nem sei a data deste vídeo, só via agora em Março/23,como disse: consegui traduzi para o Português! … e foram perguntas duras, mas as respostas, com muita convicção. Até que enfim, o Michael, foi Inocentado Novamente. Tank you Brett.
@@amiramir-qg7xvBrett knew Michael personally. We didn’t. He spent a lot more time with Michael than Wade or James and he says that Michael never abused him even though others still want to insist otherwise. I think you want Brett to be a victim, because you believe that Michael was guilty and you feel that you need a reason to validate that. It’s not fair to drag Brett’s name through the mud.
Charles and MJ Cast Thank you so much for making this interview possible 🙏🏼❤️and Brett thank you so much for telling your story. My heart goes out to you. You and Michael will forever be connected. This was so emotional and I truly can’t express enough how grateful we are. Blessings and love and peace.✨💖🌻💖✨
@@lkm347 you are very welcome and thank you my lovely moonwalker sis, this interview is so powerful, it should be all over the world for everyone to see,truth runs marathons- Michael Jackson ❤ 🙏🤟👑✌🦋🌻
@@nelumsooriampola I’m so sorry I just saw this reply of yours oh my gosh it must’ve been hiding! My dear friend I agree they should be all over the world for everyone to see that that essentially it is however still not seen as much as it should be🙏🏼
@@lkm347 np my friend, yes this is the most truthful and powerful interview next to if jc ever wanted to clear his conscience and have an interview to say the truth that Michael was innocent, he was already told it in so many ways but not publicly, so I'm hoping and praying 🙏 ❤️ 🤟👑✌️🦋🌻
Something we all been looking for thank 😘 you for sharing this discussion much appreciated two you both ♥️🙏🏾♥️🙏🏾 need to be on a larger platform 😊👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I think it’s so disgusting how they have repeatedly tried to label Brett as a victim of sexual abuse at the hands of his own friend and that he’s just in denial or can’t accept it. That is so utterly deplorable and disrespectful. They have continued to portray him in that way against his will and completely ignoring what he actually has to say in the matter. I applaud him for remaining so restrained and respectful in his responses, despite how absolutely maddening what they are doing to him is.
RESPECT! LOVE! ADMIRATION! Thank you so much, Brett for your loyalty, the TRUTH and facts. Thank you Charles for a great interview and MJ Cast for providing this podcast and video.❤️❣️👏👏🙌🙌👍👍👌👌👏👏👏👏
Brett thank you so much for doing this interview and finally telling your story. Don’t feel conflicted or think that you betrayed your best friend for even one second. The record needs to be set straight. MJ really, really deserves it... I still miss him too
Truth always previals no matter how lie is strong Thankyou The MJ cast for sharing this truthful and informative interview and thankyou to MR Brett Branes and to his family for supporting (Michael Jackson sir) for coming in front and for standing with his truth God will give justice to him 🙏
Exactly the truth will prevail. I was not a huge MJ fan and I remember when the first accusations came out on the network news and I believed MJ was guilty because that was the narrative and how could the news be wrong. When leaving neverland came out, something seemed really off. I did not watch the documentary, but I started watching RUclips and the various interviews with Wade and James. Their claims seemed very far fetched. I took a deep dive and listened to everything I could find on this and I believe MJ is innocent and all these families took advantage of MJ and as soon as they could not get any more money from him they started extorted him and when that didn’t work the accused him of these horrible lies. So yes the truth will prevail. Anyone who cares to really look into this can see what the truth is. I have also become a fan of MJ for his talent and his humanity.
I just keep listening to this interview, and I have commented before, and need to again. Thankyou Brett for your honesty, your loyalty and fir speaking your truth which is the truth . I truly hope you read these comments, and know you are loved. How you ended this interview speaks volumes, you said he was your brother, what a beautiful way to describe a beautiful, innocent relationship, your best friend, Michael was blessed to have you in his life, and he knew sincerity when he saw it that's why your friendship lasted and would have remained if he had not left ys sadly. It's amazing how you said you didn't go to his funeral, yet wade did everything he could to be there, I think that speaks volumes about him. I don't need to spell it out. The sadness in your voice has had me in tears everytime I listen to you, you miss him very much, understandably, but please hold your head up, walk tall and know Michael is so very proud of you, hold onto your memories, abd you will see him again in a better place, he will be happy to see his true friend ❤️ I would love to hear from you , and welcome you here to Ireland, where I know Michael had spent time and felt at ease here, no one bothered him he was allowed to have peace. To the mj cast, keep doing what your doing, speaking the truth, we trust you, and trust is so important in this ugly world .🌏 Heal the world was Michaels message, with the love, L O V.E🙏
There are no words to describe our heart felt gratitude to you Brett 🙏 this interview should be seen the whole world, here's a kid from an average family was a dear friend to Michael since 5 years old and spent most of his childhood with him , being a dear friend to him until the end saying nothing ever happened to him and never seen anything inappropriate happened in Neverland or anywhere else with Michael, what more can this world need to convince Michael is innocent? Here's the proof ! Brett Barnes doesn't gain anything from this interview but he has many things to loose including his privacy again, but he did it anyway for his dear friend and his own conscience. "When the moment comes to leave this world all the money in this world of no comfort but my clear conscience will " - Brett Barnes ❤🙏
Thank You so much Brett. To do this is takes amazing strength of your character as a human, to stand for THE truth. At the same time, I feel so sorry for you, & your whole family, I really do. The two evil f's and all involved in this abomination - They will rot in hell.
Thanks Brett, I can definitely understand your hesitation to do any interviews because like you said they twist your words and just want to continue to push the lies and the disgusting narrative that they have been pushing for decades now...I really respect you for still having your friends back , because he wasn't just "Michael Jackson" to you ..he was a dear friend and part of your family..I feel so bad that you have had to go through everything that the media has tried to make of your friendship with Michael..You can tell that it's a very emotional subject for you and and understandably so..Michael was lucky to have you as his friend..❤✌
On behalf of Polish fans, I would like to thank Mr. Brett Barnes for sharing his story. Huge respect for him that despite so many unpleasantness, he still tells the truth and does not bury his head in the sand like others throw mud at MJ. We wish you all the best!
I have just listened to this interview, thankyou Brett for speaking the truth, for explaining to us what we already knew to be true in your words, Michael couldn't hurt any human being, the world knows it but you said it. Trust and loyalty is so important to me In my life, and I have always related to Michael, he will be so proud of you for speaking his name in such high regard. I really hope you read my message, I want to say thankyou to you and God bless you, and michael would say to you, I love you more🙏x
Excellent interview. Thanks to Brett Barnes for coming forward to set his record straight. Listening to Mr. Barnes, I can see why Michael would remain friends with him. LN is a sham.
Many asked why MJ had a lifelong friendship with Brett. First of all, MJ must have viewed Brett's family as a wholesome, loving and nurturing, etc. family which MJ admired AND needed in his busy life. Brett stated that he saw MJ as a friend, & not a super-star and wasn't starry-eyed around MJ. I believe Brett is an introvert which I know MJ to be, so they were compatible in how they processed their relationship, especially as Brett got older. Also, like Brett said, he and his family were not scroungers off of MJ. It's knowledge, one of the mothers would always call & beg MJ to spend more time with her son(WR) and give him jobs. Another mother got MJ to buy them a house in L.A. and they would pay him back-BUT THEY (JS) NEVER DID! Another mom had spending sprees with MJ's credit cards in MJ's town with his driver chauffeuring the Arviso family-who claimed MJ imprisoned them in Neverland. And the first mother got jewelry while her ex-husband movie and if he told the world a defaming story(WHICH HE LIED ABOUT MJ). Brett and his mother, dad &family, were NOT LIKE these other families!!!!! And MJ was discerning and knew who he could trust-Brett. So, thank you Brett and Charles for an excellent interview and Charles for your wise and flawless interviewing. ~~~~~Rest in Peace, Michael~~~~~
I’m really glad I listened to this. Thanks for presenting this viewpoint and information. Also- I’m sad about the way media is misused. It’s very much being abused.
Yes good for you Brett Barnes I am going to share this incredible interview with everyone on social media platforms let's get this trending worldwide hashtag Michael Jackson is innocent.
Big Thanks MJCast for giving Brett Barnes a platform to express what he had to say about all that, in that in-depth Interview. And BIG Thanks Brett for giving us your view point about MJ, I totally believe the same thing !! I have so much sympathy for Brett, MJ Family and everyone who has been or is still being dragged in all that L.N. nonsense. Let's hope they run out of steam very soon and realize that they have to «move on» by leaving the LIES of L.N. behind and FINALLY do something constructive with their lives and also realize that - YES - « All the Money in the world, won't be of any comfort at the end of their days on Earth, if they go before clearing their conscience » (I just love that saying !!). Thanks again Brett for your good heart and sincere friendship for MJ and for that interview !!
Brett much respect for your interview! Much respect for you as a person also. This interview should be on HBO going globally! What a twisted harsh world we live in. Thanks for telling the truth and very good job interviewer, you really were compassioned with Brett. Much love from the Netherlands ❤️
Thank you Charles Thomson and Brett Barnes for this great interview! Everyone should hear it. But of course the MJ h have no interest in it, too boring, too uninteresting. Brett just doesn't get it. Can't or won't say it, protect yourself from it, and so on... Such arguments have many in favor. It saddens me that Brett Barnes is being treated this way by the media and many people just to further this agenda. His whole family suffers just so these two guys can embellish their story. I hope Brett Barnes will file suit with the Estate against HBO, Robson and Safechuck. Can't be avoided.
@@genestacoleman2754 Nah, I think Jordan is just severely traumatized from what Evan and June put him through tbh. Evan was a monster, God knows what he did to Jordie.
The medias not interested in Jordan or Gavin. They made their false allegations and that's all the media is interested in. They don't care if kids were abused or not. They either want Michael to be an abuser & prefer that kids were abused or they're happy for people to believe MJ was an abuser. The paedophile fantasists won't be interested in Brett Barnes defending Michael and will continue to "out" him as a victim. The desperation of these disgusting paedophile fantasists enables paedophilia. They desperately want/need Michael to be a paedophile. So vile.
Hi mj cast thanks for doing this we moonwalkers appreciate this it's not easy being an mj fan , hi brett l thing you're so brave to do this interview it couldn't have been easy for you .thank you so much for doing this you are so good , I love the way you came across in the interview you can tell that you're being totally honest .love the interview from the beginning to the end mj is looking down from heaven smiling his sweet smile at you. thank for being his guardian angel god bless you Stacey.❤🧡💛💥💙💦🤎❣
especially since he too dragged poor Brett into his lies, well, he repeated hat Evan told him and Evan got the idea about Brett being victim from Gutierrez. But Jordan still dragged Brett through the mud and called him a liar and he had no right to do that
I thought about that as well. I would’ve thought that Brett would never want to do an interview like this, but here we are. So anything is possible. Amazing what can happen when people know that they can trust the people asking them questions.
This may be a bit of an unpopular opinion, but let’s try not to attack Jordan Chandler. He was a product of his parents, in particular his father Evan. He was forced to say these things; I’m sure that if Michael was here (and when he was), he understood how abusive a father can be, and how you’re forced into things that you don’t want to say or do.
@@jarrettbattle9295 You're right. But he is already an adult and it would be good to tell the truth himself. This is important for Michael and his family!
I got so angry when he told about the negative consequences the mockumentary had on him and his whole family and he even needed to pause because it was emotionally overwhelming...
Thankful for Brett and his truth♥️🙏🏽 And Charles Thompson for his Journalistic Integrity♥️💯 someday this will have millions of views…when people figure it out!!!!!!!
That is the difference between Brett Barnes and Safechuck and Robson. Brett Barnes never wanted anything from Michael, he never asked for something or wanted that he could meet someone through Michael. He had built his friendship with Michael on trust. He didn't want that somebody paid for him to go to Michael's funeral. Robson's mom said, she wanted that Michael would take him to the dangerous tour. Robson wanted to use Michael's connection to get into the dance industry. He wanted to get married at Michael's Neverland Ranch, even though those were Michael's worst days of his life, he wanted to film on his land, he wanted a music label, he wanted to be together with Michael's niece, he wanted ticket for all his family to Michael's funeral, he wanted to be a part of Michael private funeral. Safechuck wanted that Michael paid for his house. Robson and Safechuck are accusing Michael's company of being responsible for the alleged abuse, claiming that they either had a duty of care or covered up the crime. However, it's ironic that if the alleged abuse were true (which is not the case), and Robson committed perjury in 2005 (when he was in his twenties), he would actually be responsible for concealing any real abuse, making him the true 'cover-up' by lying under oath. Brett said, if Michael would have abused a child and he would not have said anything, he would be a monster!
Some common sense need to apply after watching leaving neverland, i watched it a month ago, i spent a month to do reserch ..bear in mind MJ is famous i know his songs, but i never a fan of his. And now i am his fans i am listening to his music. I love the song Ben.. i like him as a person more and more .. back to common sens, so during off the wall till dangerous era.. Mike had a lot of young frineds... Why only Wade and James? I kind of understand why Brett didnt like to do interview about MJ, he is a true friend. I watched a video MJ holidaying in Sourth America with Lisa and her 2 yong kids .. and he just had this power that kids love to be around of him. I heard Lisa's son kept saying i love you to Michael hoping michael bring him to parakiting.. he was too young to go. Eneded up michael went with Lisa's doughter. Joe and Katrine alao there.
Que maravilloso ver lo mucho que amas a michael estoy segura que el solo merece amor y mas por todo lo que hizo por estos niños que conocio. Lo afortunados que fueron de tener a una persona asi en sus vidas en ser tan maravilloso. El peor error que cometio michael jackson en su vida fue ser tan ingenuo y amoroso 😢.como dicen en el documental leaving neverland si estudias la vida de michael jackson te das cuenta de lo podrido que esta este mundo
STORIES ARE JUST STORIES .. THOSE STORIES CHANGE WHEN YOUR TRUTH IS TOLD. THEY BECOME THE TRUTH & NO LONGER STORIES.. THANK YOU BRETT FOR YOUR TRUTH. LETTING THE WORLD KNOW MICHAEL JOE JACKSON IS PURELY L.O.V.E... INNOCENT AND ALWAYS BE INNOCENT.✌️❤
I dont believe it's the same when using it on the opposite perspective. Brett barnes isnt walking around saying I wasnt touched so no one else had to be touched. Its them say I was touched so every other kid had to be touched as well. It tells a huge story. If you're willing to over exaggerate the truth to get a point across using my name as a source I have a right to deny abuse on my part and point out I dont believe you on the the other.
@@NiggaChickenSticks she is talking about Robson Safechuck insisting that MJ molested Brett Mac and every boy around him, this is their tactic to convice the world that MJ was into boys. But it works the other way around: if MJ was innocent with Brett Mac etc. then he was innocent with Robson Safechuck too. Except Robson Safechuck have a massive financial motive to lie
This whole leaving Neverland movie is hilarious. First of all all the pics of MJ in Safechucks home are of him in the same clothes. Not multiple visits like they made out. Probably based over one day. Then you got Wade sitting talking, it's almost like Dan is ushering him from behind the lens. So Wade says "he played with my 7 year old penis". Who says that? You'd say 'he played with my penis'. It's one thing after another. Literally nothing is proof of guilt at all. Literally the video where MJ says "happy birthday little one" means sod all, but they used that 'little one' for making up stories etc about how they spoke to each other. Done get me wrong they have edited it to be like he is guilty but all of their 'evidence' means jack shit. Means nothing. If MJ "cut them out" like they said, then why not prosecute back in the early 90s? It's all BS.
and even if it was many more visits they invited him to be there and they say MJ wanted the parents far away from his hotel rooms but somehow didn't care if the parents were right there in the same home where they could walk in any moment. None of this makes sense
and why did the Safecucks keep all those photos of MJ at all for many years after they supposedly realized how evil MJ was? They did not explain that either
Long post ahead but I had to post these thoughts that I have had for 28 years. This podcast brought everything back up for me. I appreciate this interview for a number of reasons. Mainly, it gave me a much better sense of how Michael was with these boys he spent time with. It gave me a better idea of what those experiences were really like from the inside. I know people will be surprised to hear this (and yes, I'm a Michael fan) but I am also a student of human behavior/psychology. I'm a former journalist, researcher, and current psychology student. Brett's experiences with Michael were disturbing to me. I will explain why. Brett said he met Michael when he was 5. He did admit he didn't get to know Michael well at 5...but he did meet him at that age. He started to get to know Michael at around 8 or so. I noticed Michael usually met all the boys at a very young age. Most of the boys he met were under 10 when he met them. This is very important. This means their interactions with Michael would be imprinted in their brain. The reason this is important to mention is because Michael was meeting these boys when they were at their most impressionable. This means to them anything Michael did would make sense and be considered OK because they were too young to know anything different. If you factor in Michael being famous/rich...that even more complicates things. We know Michael was at a point in his life where no one could tell him "No". This means the parents of all these children probably saw some incentives for themselves in the process. So, everyone was getting something out of these interactions. Even Brett did admit Michael would take his family on trips and pay for everything. Of course Michael did. And some of that is financial manipulation...but I won't get into that here. But let's be honest...Michael was clearly getting something out of these interactions too otherwise they wouldn't have lasted as long as they did. So...I kind of get annoyed when people just want to say the parents are to blame and were always using Michael. I think in every situation it was a win-win for everyone in the beginning (including for Wade, James and their families). I feel like a lot of people are scared to say that. But I will and I just did. Michael was getting what he wanted out of spending time with these boys just like the parents were appreciating what letting Michael spend time with their children offered them. Everyone was getting something out of the deal. Let's not play pretend here. And I felt like Brett basically admitted that in his own way. And I appreciated it because it confirmed what I always thought anyway. Brett confirmed everything I had always wondered about. It is clear to me that Michael was affectionate and a bit touchy. That's fine with kids that are your own or in your family....but it can be interpreted in the wrong ways when it is children you aren't related to. Do you see what I'm saying? Brett met Michael so young that any type of physical touching that Michael may have displayed toward him would have been looked at as OK anyway because he met Michael so young. I even got the sense that even Brett looks at the situation a bit differently now that he has his own children. I heard him hesitate at certain times when they questioned him regarding his own children. I was not surprised by that. It's because he is older now and lived a regular life outside the Michael Jackson bubble. Life is very different outside the Michael Jackson bubble. I'm not suggesting that Michael abused anyone. Let me be clear. But I AM saying Michael clearly had boundary issues. I think that's because of how he was raised. I think the parents of these children allowed Michael to be physically affectionate with their children because he was Michael (the superstar rich Michael Jackson). If he was Tim down the street they wouldn't have done it. I believe Michael had serious boundary issues and was physically affectionate with other people's children and people let it happen because he was Michael. But in reality (outside the Michael Jackson bubble) most people would know it's not OK to hug and kiss (not sexually) other people's kids. Plus, these kids were so young...who even said they wanted to be hugged and kissed on...did Michael ever ask them if they wanted to be hugged and kissed on? Why don't people talk about these things?! Kids are allowed to ask for boundaries with adults too. But...again...it goes back to Michael meeting these kids so young. They were so young and excited because it was Michael that they let a lot of stuff slide or thought it was acceptable. Under normal circumstances, most people would know it wasn't OK. But again...that's what seems to happen when people got caught up in the Michael Jackson bubble. Non-sexual touch is never OK if the other person is uncomfortable. That's my point. I believe it's totally possible some of the kids around Michael were comfortable with these when they were young (because they were young and impressionable). But now that they are older and have children of their own they are starting to look back and question some things. And I think that's fair. I think that's OK to do. Even Brett basically admitted that you do get swooped up in the whole Michael Jackson thing and that sometimes rationality goes out the window. He mentioned this phenomenon several times throughout the interview and I think that was very telling.
One thing I wanted to correct you on is that it wasn’t just boys. I know that’s the narrative that’s been built, but women have come forward saying they also stayed at the ranch as children.
Oh please YOU ARE NOT A FAN. In fact I doubt you're even a man "Lisa" You're all over every mj video spreading your bull. I believe you're a pedophile yourself and a man and you are part of the cult of pedos who have been desperately trying to convince the world that MJ was one of you. You are not fooling anyone. Your tactics are obvious and your agenda is clear. You WILL NOT win this war, you will never claim Michael as one of your own, so give up and crawl back into the hole you came from.
Lets see you psychoanalyze Michael's friendship with the MA twin girls who were GIRLS and had no brothers. They traveled with Michael just like brett did. But you deranged haters have erased them and every other girl from Michael's story, because you desperately want him to be a boy abuser, because you yourself are attracted to boys and you're projecting your perversion onto him.
Good interview but why did Charlie only ask about the allegations? Sounds like Brett was very close with MJ and probably knows many other interesting things about him.
Brett is available on Twitter if you'd like to ask him more things. Sorry that there were areas in the interview unexplored that you'd like to hear about. We're hoping Brett will come back on at some point! J.
OK I understand that kids wanted to be around him 24 per 7. I was also that kid, but far away. But the big question is why He wanted to be around kids 24 per 7. And don't you feed anybody with that pieces about him compensating his childhood.
Also why a thirty year old man would make a constant telephone calls to a five year old boy he never even met? What’s the appropriate point of that? And the same thing was happening to Wade in the same time period, the same pattern involving the hole family, making them feel special and easy to manipulate. And what was the reason for Brett to be the tour boy at the first place for such a long time when he should be at school? What was the purpose of such intense interest of the boy from age 5 to 12 and then they only connected once a year? These questions were never asked and answered.
I want to hear more of Bret's inner experiences with MJ. Charles steered questions like he was an attorney and did talk too much, i had to skip his long questions and repeated quotes, its a waste of this precious interview time. Id like to understand MJ more from Bret's direct experiences, that most people dont understand. Why MJ chose to spend so much times with his younger friends, how was it like to hang with him. Yes, MJ was such a magnet to everyone, but why he was so attached to boys? I want to understand! I love hearing everything Bret said though ❤ You did sound like MJ in most part.
I suggest you listen carefully to Brett's responses. Remember he was totally unfazed by all that fame Michael was receiving? Charles asked these questions with respect to Brett's right to privacy. Brett is not a celebrity nor came from a celebrity family. Michael had kid friends of both genders.
he was not more attached to boys then girls or older women. Notice when he names his best friends it's never boys but adults . Besides boy hang out with boys, MJ was not interested in playing girl games because he was never a girl
15:04 I’m sorry that he was ridiculed I wish people would show grace. Michael took this kid all over the world. It’s Michael’s fault his presence is too loud to parade little kids around. Now that he has kids that he abused all the kids who were around him are faced with scrutiny because he molested kids. Some were fortunate to hide their identities.
@@KlMMl it's possible considering the fact that many ppl r of mixed background however over generations it becomes insignificant. M sure u know Liv Tyler, on her paternal side she's black but it's 5 generations prior, therefore making her blackness totally "absent" by now. It could b the same with the Robsons but in this case being part Romanichal instead of black
I don't believe you, Brett. Btw, on that set, years ago, with M and Cascios, you looked so great. And M was gluing to you. He preferred you to them And wasn't that you who looked like J Ch? Sadly, that's how it was.
Both things can be true Michael not doing anything sexual to Brett and doing It to wade and James.So I dont understand the point of fans saying MJ inocent because of Brett.we Also dont know the motivations of why MJ wanted to spend that Many nights with Brett.a good looking kid.still no explanation.its obvious Michael was fascinated with the kid,because the man had millions of women and men wanting to spend time with him at night and he chose this body instead.make It makes sense..I still think having a 13 years old traveling with you one year hugging him and kissing him in the cheek on the regular IS a form of abuse.this kid had to be playing with kids his age developing relationships not being a millionaire Superstar toy boy. Its just abusive .Michaels obsession with children in general and withnhis special Friends in particular wasnt healthy at all.These kids were put on top of the world and then strugled to be back to a regular poor non glamourous Life.They suffered at first envy jealous from their entourage andnlater on bullying and ridiculez when the first alegations CAME.so Imho Michael did abuse these kids even if It wasnt sexual.he used them as an xcaoe to his celebrity stress and childhood trauma.very selfish.children are not there to.solve anybodys mental heslth issues.he should have gone to therapy not use children as disposable emotional aid or sexual grstification
It sure does seem that mj is guilty. Either brett is telling the truth or has be so brainwashed and repressed. You can hear him often exprees, my sister was there, my cousins who were girls, etc. Since this is a biasd podcast, its definitely one sided. Arvizo is suspect. Chandler is suspect but james seems legit. Wade is a bit sketchy. Mcmsnus is sketchy. I cant see why james would lie
Turns out Safechuck was being sued himself and his family’s waste management business was in financial strain. He also coincidentally starting amending his claims so they met all the criteria for compensation for the civil case. A lot of his claims don’t add up and the timeline is out of whack. His mum not once ever mentioned a change in his demeanour or noticed anything strange from the moment he alleges to be molested.
Who would want to sleep with a 20 years older man in a bed for so many nights if not groomed? Why to sleep with him? So M was recreating his childhood, hahaha and the boys were creating what??
@Autumnal Serenity Jackso wasnt a kid. Grow up. He was an adult with his sexual need that appear at certain age. Kids dont have such needs. You want to cover his love for boys with kiddy sleepovers?
@Autumnal Serenity the question is: why did Michael like sleepovers. Not the boys were accused but Michael. Michael was a grown man with an adult body and needs.
@Autumnal Serenity Thats the point- I dont and I dont invite any children into my bed. Michael did and these were boys aged 7-14. That's a well known fact. No adult should sleep with kids in the same bed. If you say otherwise, you're wrong.
@Autumnal Serenity Then you have no information at all. Do your researxh. Michael slept many nights with boys. Micheal also would go to their houses to sleep with them as in case od Jordan, James or Brett.Michael was taking them to tours. He wasnt taking women. He preffered boys, as simple as that. What you are saying now, I was sayng in 1993, but we are in 2023 right now. We know more and these are facts.
@Autumnal Serenity You are naive. Those boys landed in this man's bed without his will. Laughable. And there isnt just one accuser, there are at least 5. Thereare also a lot more cute boys M slept with.
Brett's experience is his and his alone. When Brett now in his 40s states that "he did not see anything that would of given him concern" says a great deal. A man sharing a bedroom alone with any unrelated child should give him a reason for concern. Charles Thompson obviously has an agenda and his ask anything style seems to be ask anything that confirms his bias.
You don't see how you make no sense at all right? Brett was one of those unrelated kids! Why would that give him concern when nothing sexual happened there? He knows what happened, he was there. And Brett spent way more time with MJ than Robson or Safechuck or Chandler. It is entirelly logical to conclude if MJ was innocent with Brett Mac Jonathan Emmanuel Frank Eddie Omer than he was innocent with Robson Safechuck Chandler too, especially when those three had undeniable financial motive to lie and their stories are full of holes
Imho Both MJ and Brett were experiencing the same reality but It meant 2 diferent things to Both.To Brett the core of the relationship was the games and fun together.But dont get It twisted.Michsel has publicly started how he liked chuldrens face their beauty.Brett wasnt there only because of his personality.We all know It,Michael knew It and its something Brett needs to start to understand.That this man loved to see his face day after day hug him and kiss him.And the things he understood as paternal or brotherly LOVE probably had other meaning to Michael.Michael not s.abusing Brett doesnt mean he didnt do It to others.Abusers test waters.its highly posible he sensed Brett wasnt going to go along with sexual activity and he kept It as a platonic relationship.I want to ask every fan.what was special about Brett and Jordy over any other child? Why did Michael gave them vip treatment even better than his own nephews?? Its not like they were a supertalented kid that he wanted to turn intona Superstar...theres no really special quality to them.they are not superfunny like Emmanuel Lewis.I would LOVE to hang out with Emmanuel myself.if we are all honest we have to say what made Brett and Jordy special from other kids was their beauty and Thats the reason why Michael made them his focus of interest.lets stop lying to ourself.we dont know 100% what he did to them but he wabted to see their pretty face.other than thatntheybwere just regular kids,not talented,not funny or super inteligent
Actually, LN is not the first time where it is implied that BB was his boy too. Book by Anderson, book by Gutiares and other. This is nothing new. Hanging out with doo doos, yeah. Every Doo Doo was, accidentally, a good looking Doo Doo. Not appropriate, dont buy the sweetness, sory. BB cool guy, though.
How you gonna reference a actual pedophile as your argument? I did a loud chuckle when you said gutiares. Its like you’re throwing stuff out there without realizing what you’re saying. Also you’re all over this comment thread and you haven’t said anything that hasn’t already been long disproving
The best part : "- Are you in denial? - Absolutely not." I don't know if this was meant to be funny but thanks for the laugh. More seriously, I believe this man. I believe MJ had special friends he did nothing illegal with, and Brett seems to be one of them. And I also believe Wade and James. 100%. I'm very sad for all of them because MJ armed them all in some way. I mean Brett's life has been ruined because of what MJ did to other boys.
What are you talking about Robson and Safechuck? Why don't you do some research and look into history? After MJ's death, Robson had financial problems and at first started selling MJ's belongings. ^He needed money) He sent a letter to MJ'Estate trying to get hired as the director for Cirque du Soleil's MJ One, but James King (a choreographer who was also on MJ's dance team) was hired, so it was natural to- hire him to choose him. . Robson was shocked and started talking about "abuse". but before that he asked his mother via email about "care" and "abuse". His mother said it never happened. He said in the LN that his family went to the Grand Canyon and he was left alone with Michael. But in 2016, his mother testified that their entire family went to the Grand Canyon. He made a video in 2007 saying that Neverland is sacred ground. He wanted to get married in Neverland. (Don't tell me he was in love with MJ back then, especially when he had a fiancée and wanted to get married!) The Safechuck family was in trouble because the garbage company was sued by associates for fraud and had to pay millions of dollars. It was only then in 2013 that Safechuck "realized" he had been "sexually abused" by MJ when he saw Robson on TV. But his mother jumped out of bed and danced when MJ died in 2009. I wonder if his mother didn't know about the "abuse" but dances when she hears a man is dead? This is creepy! Safechuck's rings. I looked closely at pictures of him when he was a child and he had no jewelry. A is a video of MJ and JS being at the jewelry store, but the interview with Broke Shields who said he got a very nice ring from MJ was "skipped". And let's not talk about the "abuse" in non-existent buildings.
I'm disgusted that you believe Robson and Safechuck's fabricated narratives. Truth is their parents wanted MJ for the money and fame. I strongly think Brett's parents weren't money-hungry hence the long duration of Michael's friendship with the Barnes.
I can see why MJ remained friends with Brett. He was a genuine friend and not using him for money or a career. Thank you Brett.
Thank you so much The MJCast and Brett Barnes for this wonderful intervirew! So much wonderful information. Thank you Brett for debunking LN. I'm sorry Wade, James, Dan Greed, and HBO dragged you into this.
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My respect and admiration for Brett knows no bounds. It is refreshing to see that integrity still exists in a world awash with duplicity,malice,opportunism,and greed. Brett Barnes should be very proud of himself.
This interview is such a gem right now. Massive respect for Brett Barnes for keeping it real for 30 years now. I have also to point out the fact that he downplayed the ''sleeping'' narrative, since it is where most people get scandalized (understandably), I'm so glad that he confirms it wasn't MJ and the children alone, but with family members as well, and also the fact that he didn't make a big deal out of it, calling it ''just sleeping''.
It's a sleepover, nothing more.
Thanks MJCast for being able to facilitate an interview like this, and thanks to Charles for asking all of the right questions.
Because of all the harassment Brett has received on Twitter, I figured he wasn’t fazed by it. I was disappointed to hear that I was wrong. He and his family are deeply affected by what people say.
It’s funny that Dan Reed and the multiple people that harass Brett claim to be standing up for victims. However, in their ignorance they’re creating victims.
This poor man has been through so much. Brett and Michael were friends for 20 years. There was a reason for that. Brett never wanted anything from Michael. He was just a sweet, simple kid with decent parents. Unlike the Chandler family, the Arviso family, and Safechuck and Robson jackals. This interview is beautiful and heartbreaking. You can HEAR his pain. He tries very hard to compose himself. Only breaks down slightly a couple of times. Charles Thomson has always been a journalist of great integrity. We've read everything he has written and we've listened to him report for years on this tragic story. Brett trusts Mr. Thomson and knows that he is not being asked the hard questions for sensationalism. What an incredible interview. I pray that dear Brett finds some peace, some closure, after telling his story. What they've done to this man is a crime. I hope this interview will be heard by the millions of people that questioned a purely innocent friendship.
Amazing episode !! Here are some things I realized during the whole conversation:
- Brett seems to be not the outgoing type. I feel you, man!
- Michael's friendship with the Barnes lasted because I think the parents find Michael a nice person, nothing more. He was seen a genuine friend, not a money making machine; nor the megastar he is and the fame and money that come with it.
Glad Mr Barnes agreed to speak after 29 years publicly to tell the truth about his and his family's friendship with MJ.
I agree. They didn’t take advantage of MJ and hearing this interview Brett seems like a nice down to earth genuine person. Since he and his family were not expecting anything but friendship from MJ is most likely why the friendship last. Plus Brett seems like a very like able soul. Wade wanted a career and I believe Safechuck’s family wanted a house and money (I could be wrong, but I think I heard this). It is unbelievable that after everything MJ did for these families that they turned on him when he no longer would support them financially. No wonder why MJ cut them out of his life, he could see the friendship was not authentic. Like Brett said at the end of their lives he will sleep with a clear conscience. Bless you Brett and your family.
It’s refreshing to see that integrity still exists. It was much needed interview. Actually, I’ve been waiting for it for 30 years.. Thank you, Brett, for speaking your truth and being a loyal friend to Michael.
2:19:26 Listening to Brett's words here made me cry. He is a true friend to the King of Pop.
Can I just say Brett is such a sweet, upstanding MAN in all senses of the word and Charles you did an amazing job as always. The way he answered so honestly and respected Michael as a true friend is an example to all. I’m so glad he chose MJ Cast. Thank you to everyone on the podcast and Brett Barnes.
Wondered when you guys were going to upload this on YT :) Such a good, interesting, informative interview - respect to Brett for breaking his (entirely understandable) silence, you could hear in his voice how nervous and shy he was, and you totally get a sense of just how devastating the media/social media BS has been for him and his family. It broke my heart when he kept apologising in case his anecdotes made him sound big-headed, and when he worried in case he was betraying MIchaels confidence by doing this interview. Such a humble guy. Well done to Charlie Thomson too, he handled the interview brilliantly, and all of his journalistic integrity and experience really shone through in this interview. Well done MJCast in getting this world exclusive interview :)
I feel so sorry for Brett. They dragged his name into this, and he never wanted to be in the public eye. Glad he cleared all of this up.
Wow, thank you Brett Barnes for trusting Charles Thomson & The MJCast with your interview. I feel you did this for the fans as well as your friend Michael… you have grown up to see his fan base still standing by him. We love you for always being someone he could trust… to keep your trust as an adult… you’re a good man. 🙏🏽♥️🙏🏽
A very interesting interview, thank you to Brett and Charles, totally understand why Brett didn't speak out until now, he has had so much harrasment over the years but total respect to him for giving a totally believable interview in support of Michael 👑❤
Love your comment my friend you're so right in what you say aabout this interview see you later pal lovve you more.
Sheila thank you my sweet friend you are spot on . On your comment I totally agree pal
I'm sorry...I don't like how you said "totally believable interview in support of Michael". I don't think it was or should have been "in support of Michael". I think it's about telling the truth. When you say "In support of Michael" that doesn't mean the same thing to me as telling the truth. I believe Brett was telling his truth. That is way more important. Because you can be in support of someone and it doesn't mean you are telling the truth....people can be in support of someone and be hiding or covering for them. Happens all the time. We need to be careful in how we word things. I'm a Michael fan...but I'm also more interested in the truth and facts. I would never want anyone to cover for him if he was doing bad things. I'm a fan...not a stan. I can handle that Michael had flaws like everyone.
Thank you a lot! Thank yiu a lot, Charles! Your honesty will never be forgotten. Charles îs a real, profesional journalist who always fought for the truth.
You can tell Brett barns is 100% telling truth and spitting facts!! THIS is what real journalism is!!
Sorry… in Potuguese!
Sou brasileira, traduzi toda a entrevista.
Fiquei encantada com a respostas de Brett Barnies.
Nem sei a data deste vídeo, só via agora em Março/23,como disse: consegui traduzi para o Português!
… e foram perguntas duras, mas as respostas, com muita convicção.
Até que enfim, o Michael, foi Inocentado Novamente.
Tank you Brett.
does something only count as “real journalism” when it makes your idol look good ?
@@amiramir-qg7xvBrett knew Michael personally. We didn’t. He spent a lot more time with Michael than Wade or James and he says that Michael never abused him even though others still want to insist otherwise. I think you want Brett to be a victim, because you believe that Michael was guilty and you feel that you need a reason to validate that. It’s not fair to drag Brett’s name through the mud.
Fair enough. It doesn't make MJ innocent of breaking the law with other boys.
@@Whatsahandle4doesn’t make him guilty either idiot
Charles and MJ Cast Thank you so much for making this interview possible 🙏🏼❤️and Brett thank you so much for telling your story. My heart goes out to you. You and Michael will forever be connected. This was so emotional and I truly can’t express enough how grateful we are. Blessings and love and peace.✨💖🌻💖✨
Hi Leslie, yes words cannot express how we feel, forever greatful to Brett for speaking up for Michael and the truth 🙏 ❤ 👑🤟✌🦋🌻
@@nelumsooriampola my dear moonwalker sis Nelum✨🌻✨Yes this is so so true thank you my lovely friend
@@lkm347 you are very welcome and thank you my lovely moonwalker sis, this interview is so powerful, it should be all over the world for everyone to see,truth runs marathons- Michael Jackson ❤ 🙏🤟👑✌🦋🌻
@@nelumsooriampola I’m so sorry I just saw this reply of yours oh my gosh it must’ve been hiding!
My dear friend I agree they should be all over the world for everyone to see that that essentially it is however still not seen as much as it should be🙏🏼
@@lkm347 np my friend, yes this is the most truthful and powerful interview next to if jc ever wanted to clear his conscience and have an interview to say the truth that Michael was innocent, he was already told it in so many ways but not publicly, so I'm hoping and praying 🙏 ❤️ 🤟👑✌️🦋🌻
All my respect and admiration for both of You!
Brilliant interview Charles! Thank you Brett for being true friend to Michael all these years!
Something we all been looking for thank 😘 you for sharing this discussion much appreciated two you both ♥️🙏🏾♥️🙏🏾 need to be on a larger platform 😊👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
🙏🏼❤️✨Thank you!
Thank you Brett! Thank you MJCast!
Thank you for the great interview.
I think it’s so disgusting how they have repeatedly tried to label Brett as a victim of sexual abuse at the hands of his own friend and that he’s just in denial or can’t accept it. That is so utterly deplorable and disrespectful. They have continued to portray him in that way against his will and completely ignoring what he actually has to say in the matter. I applaud him for remaining so restrained and respectful in his responses, despite how absolutely maddening what they are doing to him is.
RESPECT! LOVE! ADMIRATION! Thank you so much, Brett for your loyalty, the TRUTH and facts. Thank you Charles for a great interview and MJ Cast for providing this podcast and video.❤️❣️👏👏🙌🙌👍👍👌👌👏👏👏👏
Brett thank you so much for doing this interview and finally telling your story. Don’t feel conflicted or think that you betrayed your best friend for even one second. The record needs to be set straight. MJ really, really deserves it... I still miss him too
Been waiting for this Interview! Thanks so much for this MJ Cast ❤️
Truth always previals no matter how lie is strong Thankyou The MJ cast for sharing this truthful and informative interview and thankyou to MR Brett Branes and to his family for supporting (Michael Jackson sir) for coming in front and for standing with his truth God will give justice to him 🙏
Exactly the truth will prevail. I was not a huge MJ fan and I remember when the first accusations came out on the network news and I believed MJ was guilty because that was the narrative and how could the news be wrong. When leaving neverland came out, something seemed really off. I did not watch the documentary, but I started watching RUclips and the various interviews with Wade and James. Their claims seemed very far fetched. I took a deep dive and listened to everything I could find on this and I believe MJ is innocent and all these families took advantage of MJ and as soon as they could not get any more money from him they started extorted him and when that didn’t work the accused him of these horrible lies. So yes the truth will prevail. Anyone who cares to really look into this can see what the truth is. I have also become a fan of MJ for his talent and his humanity.
I just keep listening to this interview, and I have commented before, and need to again. Thankyou Brett for your honesty, your loyalty and fir speaking your truth which is the truth . I truly hope you read these comments, and know you are loved. How you ended this interview speaks volumes, you said he was your brother, what a beautiful way to describe a beautiful, innocent relationship, your best friend, Michael was blessed to have you in his life, and he knew sincerity when he saw it that's why your friendship lasted and would have remained if he had not left ys sadly. It's amazing how you said you didn't go to his funeral, yet wade did everything he could to be there, I think that speaks volumes about him. I don't need to spell it out. The sadness in your voice has had me in tears everytime I listen to you, you miss him very much, understandably, but please hold your head up, walk tall and know Michael is so very proud of you, hold onto your memories, abd you will see him again in a better place, he will be happy to see his true friend ❤️ I would love to hear from you , and welcome you here to Ireland, where I know Michael had spent time and felt at ease here, no one bothered him he was allowed to have peace. To the mj cast, keep doing what your doing, speaking the truth, we trust you, and trust is so important in this ugly world .🌏 Heal the world was Michaels message, with the love, L O V.E🙏
There are no words to describe our heart felt gratitude to you Brett 🙏 this interview should be seen the whole world, here's a kid from an average family was a dear friend to Michael since 5 years old and spent most of his childhood with him , being a dear friend to him until the end saying nothing ever happened to him and never seen anything inappropriate happened in Neverland or anywhere else with Michael, what more can this world need to convince Michael is innocent? Here's the proof ! Brett Barnes doesn't gain anything from this interview but he has many things to loose including his privacy again, but he did it anyway for his dear friend and his own conscience.
"When the moment comes to leave this world all the money in this world of no comfort but my clear conscience will " - Brett Barnes ❤🙏
Hi nelun as always brilliant comment totally agree with what you said see you later pal
❤️🙏🏼✨🦋Thank you dear Nelum. I love you more!
@@niamhhanrahan6957 thank you neve, my heart goes to Brett and his family, God bless them and protect them 🙏 ❤👑🤟✌🦋🌻
@@lkm347 thank you my dear friend I love you more ❤️ 🙏👑🤟✌🦋🌻
@@nelumsooriampola 💖❤️💕✨💕❤️💖
Thank You so much Brett. To do this is takes amazing strength of your character as a human, to stand for THE truth. At the same time, I feel so sorry for you, & your whole family, I really do. The two evil f's and all involved in this abomination - They will rot in hell.
Thanks Brett, I can definitely understand your hesitation to do any interviews because like you said they twist your words and just want to continue to push the lies and the disgusting narrative that they have been pushing for decades now...I really respect you for still having your friends back , because he wasn't just "Michael Jackson" to you ..he was a dear friend and part of your family..I feel so bad that you have had to go through everything that the media has tried to make of your friendship with Michael..You can tell that it's a very emotional subject for you and and understandably so..Michael was lucky to have you as his friend..❤✌
Thank you Brett and MJCast! 💜🎈🌚🌻
On behalf of Polish fans, I would like to thank Mr. Brett Barnes for sharing his story. Huge respect for him that despite so many unpleasantness, he still tells the truth and does not bury his head in the sand like others throw mud at MJ. We wish you all the best!
OMG! AMAZING. Finally!!!!!!
Why so many people believe in lies and don’t want to hear the truth???? Thanks Brett❤
Thank you for being brave ..may you prosper and be protected .. blessings be yours .God bless you
I love the very ending where Brett Barnes speaks about MJ as a humanitarian.
Amazing!
Thank you for the interview
I have just listened to this interview, thankyou Brett for speaking the truth, for explaining to us what we already knew to be true in your words, Michael couldn't hurt any human being, the world knows it but you said it. Trust and loyalty is so important to me In my life, and I have always related to Michael, he will be so proud of you for speaking his name in such high regard. I really hope you read my message, I want to say thankyou to you and God bless you, and michael would say to you, I love you more🙏x
Thank u so much for the upload.
Much love ❤
such a great conversation, thanks for sharing.
Awesome, thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️
This interviewer did a masterful job.
He (Charles) is one of those journalists you can respect.
Excellent interview. Thanks to Brett Barnes for coming forward to set his record straight. Listening to Mr. Barnes, I can see why Michael would remain friends with him. LN is a sham.
Many asked why MJ had a lifelong friendship with Brett. First of all, MJ must have viewed Brett's family as a wholesome,
loving and nurturing, etc. family which MJ admired AND needed in his busy life. Brett stated that he saw MJ as a friend, &
not a super-star and wasn't starry-eyed around MJ. I believe Brett is an introvert which I know MJ to be, so they were
compatible in how they processed their relationship, especially as Brett got older. Also, like Brett said, he and his family
were not scroungers off of MJ. It's knowledge, one of the mothers would always call & beg MJ to spend more time with her son(WR) and give him jobs. Another mother got MJ to buy them a house in L.A. and they would pay him back-BUT THEY
(JS) NEVER DID! Another mom had spending sprees with MJ's credit cards in MJ's town with his driver chauffeuring the Arviso family-who claimed MJ imprisoned them in Neverland. And the first mother got jewelry while her ex-husband
movie and
if he told the world a defaming story(WHICH HE LIED ABOUT MJ). Brett and his mother, dad &family, were NOT
LIKE these other families!!!!! And MJ was discerning and knew who he could trust-Brett. So, thank you Brett and Charles for
an excellent interview and Charles for your wise and flawless interviewing. ~~~~~Rest in Peace, Michael~~~~~
I’m really glad I listened to this. Thanks for presenting this viewpoint and information. Also- I’m sad about the way media is misused. It’s very much being abused.
Great interview. If there ever needed to be a video to an MJCast episode, it’s this one.
Is there a reason it’s never filmed?
They've been doing this since episode one. Purely audio.
Yes good for you Brett Barnes I am going to share this incredible interview with everyone on social media platforms let's get this trending worldwide hashtag Michael Jackson is innocent.
with my respect to you BRET BARNES . THANKS CHARLES THOMSON.
Big Thanks MJCast for giving Brett Barnes a platform to express what he had to say about all that, in that in-depth Interview. And BIG Thanks Brett for giving us your view point about MJ, I totally believe the same thing !! I have so much sympathy for Brett, MJ Family and everyone who has been or is still being dragged in all that L.N. nonsense. Let's hope they run out of steam very soon and realize that they have to «move on» by leaving the LIES of L.N. behind and FINALLY do something constructive with their lives and also realize that - YES - « All the Money in the world, won't be of any comfort at the end of their days on Earth, if they go before clearing their conscience » (I just love that saying !!). Thanks again Brett for your good heart and sincere friendship for MJ and for that interview !!
Brett much respect for your interview! Much respect for you as a person also. This interview should be on HBO going globally! What a twisted harsh world we live in. Thanks for telling the truth and very good job interviewer, you really were compassioned with Brett. Much love from the Netherlands ❤️
Thank you Charles Thomson and Brett Barnes for this great interview! Everyone should hear it. But of course the MJ h have no interest in it, too boring, too uninteresting. Brett just doesn't get it. Can't or won't say it, protect yourself from it, and so on... Such arguments have many in favor. It saddens me that Brett Barnes is being treated this way by the media and many people just to further this agenda. His whole family suffers just so these two guys can embellish their story. I hope Brett Barnes will file suit with the Estate against HBO, Robson and Safechuck. Can't be avoided.
we hope that 1 day Jordan Chandler will come out to clear everything.
Or even Gavin
Don't hold your breath!
That will never happen at all in my opinion Jordan Chandler is still making money from the media to keep his mouth shut
@@genestacoleman2754 Nah, I think Jordan is just severely traumatized from what Evan and June put him through tbh. Evan was a monster, God knows what he did to Jordie.
The medias not interested in Jordan or Gavin. They made their false allegations and that's all the media is interested in. They don't care if kids were abused or not. They either want Michael to be an abuser & prefer that kids were abused or they're happy for people to believe MJ was an abuser. The paedophile fantasists won't be interested in Brett Barnes defending Michael and will continue to "out" him as a victim. The desperation of these disgusting paedophile fantasists enables paedophilia. They desperately want/need Michael to be a paedophile. So vile.
Kudos
Hi mj cast thanks for doing this we moonwalkers appreciate this it's not easy being an mj fan , hi brett l thing you're so brave to do this interview it couldn't have been easy for you .thank you so much for doing this you are so good , I love the way you came across in the interview you can tell that you're being totally honest .love the interview from the beginning to the end mj is looking down from heaven smiling his sweet smile at you. thank for being his guardian angel god bless you Stacey.❤🧡💛💥💙💦🤎❣
Beautiful dear Niamh ❤️🙏🏼✨I love you more!
@@lkm347 hi Leslie, thanks for your reply god bless you and take care my friend
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Thank you! It would be nice if Jordan Chandler gave a truthful interview...
especially since he too dragged poor Brett into his lies, well, he repeated hat Evan told him and Evan got the idea about Brett being victim from Gutierrez. But Jordan still dragged Brett through the mud and called him a liar and he had no right to do that
It would take a lot of building trust to get to interview Jordan.
I thought about that as well. I would’ve thought that Brett would never want to do an interview like this, but here we are. So anything is possible. Amazing what can happen when people know that they can trust the people asking them questions.
This may be a bit of an unpopular opinion, but let’s try not to attack Jordan Chandler. He was a product of his parents, in particular his father Evan. He was forced to say these things; I’m sure that if Michael was here (and when he was), he understood how abusive a father can be, and how you’re forced into things that you don’t want to say or do.
@@jarrettbattle9295 You're right. But he is already an adult and it would be good to tell the truth himself. This is important for Michael and his family!
Thanks for that.👍👍
I got so angry when he told about the negative consequences the mockumentary had on him and his whole family and he even needed to pause because it was emotionally overwhelming...
I only heard about this! Great to hear from Brett. I wish however he went after Wade and James more.
Thankful for Brett and his truth♥️🙏🏽 And Charles Thompson for his Journalistic Integrity♥️💯
someday this will have millions of views…when people figure it out!!!!!!!
And that Kevin wasn't that alone at home. That Kevin was his obsession.
The fact is, if he was abused, he would remember it, period, mj is innocent for sure,
Should do muckuly kulkin interview
* Macaulay Culkin.
That is the difference between Brett Barnes and Safechuck and Robson. Brett Barnes never wanted anything from Michael, he never asked for something or wanted that he could meet someone through Michael. He had built his friendship with Michael on trust. He didn't want that somebody paid for him to go to Michael's funeral.
Robson's mom said, she wanted that Michael would take him to the dangerous tour. Robson wanted to use Michael's connection to get into the dance industry. He wanted to get married at Michael's Neverland Ranch, even though those were Michael's worst days of his life, he wanted to film on his land, he wanted a music label, he wanted to be together with Michael's niece, he wanted ticket for all his family to Michael's funeral, he wanted to be a part of Michael private funeral. Safechuck wanted that Michael paid for his house.
Robson and Safechuck are accusing Michael's company of being responsible for the alleged abuse, claiming that they either had a duty of care or covered up the crime. However, it's ironic that if the alleged abuse were true (which is not the case), and Robson committed perjury in 2005 (when he was in his twenties), he would actually be responsible for concealing any real abuse, making him the true 'cover-up' by lying under oath.
Brett said, if Michael would have abused a child and he would not have said anything, he would be a monster!
could you please activate the subtitles ? thank you so much
Some common sense need to apply after watching leaving neverland, i watched it a month ago, i spent a month to do reserch ..bear in mind MJ is famous i know his songs, but i never a fan of his. And now i am his fans i am listening to his music. I love the song Ben.. i like him as a person more and more .. back to common sens, so during off the wall till dangerous era.. Mike had a lot of young frineds... Why only Wade and James? I kind of understand why Brett didnt like to do interview about MJ, he is a true friend. I watched a video MJ holidaying in Sourth America with Lisa and her 2 yong kids .. and he just had this power that kids love to be around of him. I heard Lisa's son kept saying i love you to Michael hoping michael bring him to parakiting.. he was too young to go. Eneded up michael went with Lisa's doughter. Joe and Katrine alao there.
Thank you Brett Barnes
not only brett but many other children who has spent time with him support mj
Que maravilloso ver lo mucho que amas a michael estoy segura que el solo merece amor y mas por todo lo que hizo por estos niños que conocio. Lo afortunados que fueron de tener a una persona asi en sus vidas en ser tan maravilloso. El peor error que cometio michael jackson en su vida fue ser tan ingenuo y amoroso 😢.como dicen en el documental leaving neverland si estudias la vida de michael jackson te das cuenta de lo podrido que esta este mundo
STORIES ARE JUST STORIES .. THOSE STORIES CHANGE WHEN YOUR TRUTH IS TOLD. THEY BECOME THE TRUTH & NO LONGER STORIES.. THANK YOU BRETT FOR YOUR TRUTH. LETTING THE WORLD KNOW MICHAEL JOE JACKSON IS PURELY L.O.V.E... INNOCENT AND ALWAYS BE INNOCENT.✌️❤
I dont believe it's the same when using it on the opposite perspective. Brett barnes isnt walking around saying I wasnt touched so no one else had to be touched. Its them say I was touched so every other kid had to be touched as well. It tells a huge story. If you're willing to over exaggerate the truth to get a point across using my name as a source I have a right to deny abuse on my part and point out I dont believe you on the the other.
Huh?
@@NiggaChickenSticks she is talking about Robson Safechuck insisting that MJ molested Brett Mac and every boy around him, this is their tactic to convice the world that MJ was into boys. But it works the other way around: if MJ was innocent with Brett Mac etc. then he was innocent with Robson Safechuck too. Except Robson Safechuck have a massive financial motive to lie
Michael Jackson innocent forever I love you Michael Jackson forever!❤
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This whole leaving Neverland movie is hilarious. First of all all the pics of MJ in Safechucks home are of him in the same clothes. Not multiple visits like they made out. Probably based over one day. Then you got Wade sitting talking, it's almost like Dan is ushering him from behind the lens. So Wade says "he played with my 7 year old penis". Who says that? You'd say 'he played with my penis'. It's one thing after another.
Literally nothing is proof of guilt at all. Literally the video where MJ says "happy birthday little one" means sod all, but they used that 'little one' for making up stories etc about how they spoke to each other. Done get me wrong they have edited it to be like he is guilty but all of their 'evidence' means jack shit. Means nothing. If MJ "cut them out" like they said, then why not prosecute back in the early 90s? It's all BS.
and even if it was many more visits they invited him to be there and they say MJ wanted the parents far away from his hotel rooms but somehow didn't care if the parents were right there in the same home where they could walk in any moment. None of this makes sense
and why did the Safecucks keep all those photos of MJ at all for many years after they supposedly realized how evil MJ was? They did not explain that either
Long post ahead but I had to post these thoughts that I have had for 28 years. This podcast brought everything back up for me.
I appreciate this interview for a number of reasons. Mainly, it gave me a much better sense of how Michael was with these boys he spent time with. It gave me a better idea of what those experiences were really like from the inside. I know people will be surprised to hear this (and yes, I'm a Michael fan) but I am also a student of human behavior/psychology. I'm a former journalist, researcher, and current psychology student.
Brett's experiences with Michael were disturbing to me. I will explain why. Brett said he met Michael when he was 5. He did admit he didn't get to know Michael well at 5...but he did meet him at that age. He started to get to know Michael at around 8 or so. I noticed Michael usually met all the boys at a very young age. Most of the boys he met were under 10 when he met them. This is very important. This means their interactions with Michael would be imprinted in their brain.
The reason this is important to mention is because Michael was meeting these boys when they were at their most impressionable. This means to them anything Michael did would make sense and be considered OK because they were too young to know anything different. If you factor in Michael being famous/rich...that even more complicates things. We know Michael was at a point in his life where no one could tell him "No". This means the parents of all these children probably saw some incentives for themselves in the process.
So, everyone was getting something out of these interactions. Even Brett did admit Michael would take his family on trips and pay for everything. Of course Michael did. And some of that is financial manipulation...but I won't get into that here. But let's be honest...Michael was clearly getting something out of these interactions too otherwise they wouldn't have lasted as long as they did. So...I kind of get annoyed when people just want to say the parents are to blame and were always using Michael.
I think in every situation it was a win-win for everyone in the beginning (including for Wade, James and their families). I feel like a lot of people are scared to say that. But I will and I just did. Michael was getting what he wanted out of spending time with these boys just like the parents were appreciating what letting Michael spend time with their children offered them. Everyone was getting something out of the deal. Let's not play pretend here.
And I felt like Brett basically admitted that in his own way. And I appreciated it because it confirmed what I always thought anyway. Brett confirmed everything I had always wondered about. It is clear to me that Michael was affectionate and a bit touchy. That's fine with kids that are your own or in your family....but it can be interpreted in the wrong ways when it is children you aren't related to. Do you see what I'm saying? Brett met Michael so young that any type of physical touching that Michael may have displayed toward him would have been looked at as OK anyway because he met Michael so young.
I even got the sense that even Brett looks at the situation a bit differently now that he has his own children. I heard him hesitate at certain times when they questioned him regarding his own children. I was not surprised by that. It's because he is older now and lived a regular life outside the Michael Jackson bubble. Life is very different outside the Michael Jackson bubble.
I'm not suggesting that Michael abused anyone. Let me be clear. But I AM saying Michael clearly had boundary issues. I think that's because of how he was raised. I think the parents of these children allowed Michael to be physically affectionate with their children because he was Michael (the superstar rich Michael Jackson). If he was Tim down the street they wouldn't have done it. I believe Michael had serious boundary issues and was physically affectionate with other people's children and people let it happen because he was Michael.
But in reality (outside the Michael Jackson bubble) most people would know it's not OK to hug and kiss (not sexually) other people's kids. Plus, these kids were so young...who even said they wanted to be hugged and kissed on...did Michael ever ask them if they wanted to be hugged and kissed on? Why don't people talk about these things?! Kids are allowed to ask for boundaries with adults too. But...again...it goes back to Michael meeting these kids so young.
They were so young and excited because it was Michael that they let a lot of stuff slide or thought it was acceptable. Under normal circumstances, most people would know it wasn't OK. But again...that's what seems to happen when people got caught up in the Michael Jackson bubble. Non-sexual touch is never OK if the other person is uncomfortable. That's my point. I believe it's totally possible some of the kids around Michael were comfortable with these when they were young (because they were young and impressionable). But now that they are older and have children of their own they are starting to look back and question some things. And I think that's fair. I think that's OK to do. Even Brett basically admitted that you do get swooped up in the whole Michael Jackson thing and that sometimes rationality goes out the window. He mentioned this phenomenon several times throughout the interview and I think that was very telling.
You missed the point there, Lisa. Brett didn't meet MJ when he was 5, and he mentioned he was too young to go to that concert around that time.
One thing I wanted to correct you on is that it wasn’t just boys. I know that’s the narrative that’s been built, but women have come forward saying they also stayed at the ranch as children.
Hater spotted, I see you commenting this nonsense on anything MJ allegations-related. Enjoy life in the 'Mark Chapman-brigade'
Oh please YOU ARE NOT A FAN. In fact I doubt you're even a man "Lisa" You're all over every mj video spreading your bull. I believe you're a pedophile yourself and a man and you are part of the cult of pedos who have been desperately trying to convince the world that MJ was one of you. You are not fooling anyone. Your tactics are obvious and your agenda is clear. You WILL NOT win this war, you will never claim Michael as one of your own, so give up and crawl back into the hole you came from.
Lets see you psychoanalyze Michael's friendship with the MA twin girls who were GIRLS and had no brothers. They traveled with Michael just like brett did. But you deranged haters have erased them and every other girl from Michael's story, because you desperately want him to be a boy abuser, because you yourself are attracted to boys and you're projecting your perversion onto him.
Why does Brett have an Australian accent? He had an American accent.
Oh, and Brett, wasn't that you who said that M was kissing you like a mother? 😂😂 Thank you, no need to hear more, have a nice day.
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Good interview but why did Charlie only ask about the allegations? Sounds like Brett was very close with MJ and probably knows many other interesting things about him.
Brett is available on Twitter if you'd like to ask him more things. Sorry that there were areas in the interview unexplored that you'd like to hear about. We're hoping Brett will come back on at some point! J.
OK I understand that kids wanted to be around him 24 per 7. I was also that kid, but far away. But the big question is why He wanted to be around kids 24 per 7. And don't you feed anybody with that pieces about him compensating his childhood.
Also why a thirty year old man would make a constant telephone calls to a five year old boy he never even met? What’s the appropriate point of that? And the same thing was happening to Wade in the same time period, the same pattern involving the hole family, making them feel special and easy to manipulate. And what was the reason for Brett to be the tour boy at the first place for such a long time when he should be at school? What was the purpose of such intense interest of the boy from age 5 to 12 and then they only connected once a year? These questions were never asked and answered.
I want to hear more of Bret's inner experiences with MJ. Charles steered questions like he was an attorney and did talk too much, i had to skip his long questions and repeated quotes, its a waste of this precious interview time.
Id like to understand MJ more from Bret's direct experiences, that most people dont understand. Why MJ chose to spend so much times with his younger friends, how was it like to hang with him. Yes, MJ was such a magnet to everyone, but why he was so attached to boys? I want to understand!
I love hearing everything Bret said though ❤ You did sound like MJ in most part.
I suggest you listen carefully to Brett's responses. Remember he was totally unfazed by all that fame Michael was receiving?
Charles asked these questions with respect to Brett's right to privacy. Brett is not a celebrity nor came from a celebrity family.
Michael had kid friends of both genders.
he was not more attached to boys then girls or older women. Notice when he names his best friends it's never boys but adults . Besides boy hang out with boys, MJ was not interested in playing girl games because he was never a girl
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Gag order won’t allow her to comment at all.
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I’m sorry that he was ridiculed I wish people would show grace. Michael took this kid all over the world. It’s Michael’s fault his presence is too loud to parade little kids around. Now that he has kids that he abused all the kids who were around him are faced with scrutiny because he molested kids. Some were fortunate to hide their identities.
Brett isn’t British
He's Australian
Are brett barnes and wade robson part native austalian or what’s their ethnicity? Does anyone know
@@KlMMl Brett Barnes is half Caucasian and Aboriginal however Wade is just Caucasian
@@DAWN_103.5 ok. I was thinking the Robson’s, especially Joy,
Wade and his sister, look like they might be Romanichal.
@@KlMMl it's possible considering the fact that many ppl r of mixed background however over generations it becomes insignificant. M sure u know Liv Tyler, on her paternal side she's black but it's 5 generations prior, therefore making her blackness totally "absent" by now. It could b the same with the Robsons but in this case being part Romanichal instead of black
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I don't believe you, Brett. Btw, on that set, years ago, with M and Cascios, you looked so great. And M was gluing to you. He preferred you to them And wasn't that you who looked like J Ch? Sadly, that's how it was.
And M recording Omer with his kids, M checking Omer from down to up with the camera...
Both things can be true Michael not doing anything sexual to Brett and doing It to wade and James.So I dont understand the point of fans saying MJ inocent because of Brett.we Also dont know the motivations of why MJ wanted to spend that Many nights with Brett.a good looking kid.still no explanation.its obvious Michael was fascinated with the kid,because the man had millions of women and men wanting to spend time with him at night and he chose this body instead.make It makes sense..I still think having a 13 years old traveling with you one year hugging him and kissing him in the cheek on the regular IS a form of abuse.this kid had to be playing with kids his age developing relationships not being a millionaire Superstar toy boy. Its just abusive .Michaels obsession with children in general and withnhis special Friends in particular wasnt healthy at all.These kids were put on top of the world and then strugled to be back to a regular poor non glamourous Life.They suffered at first envy jealous from their entourage andnlater on bullying and ridiculez when the first alegations CAME.so Imho Michael did abuse these kids even if It wasnt sexual.he used them as an xcaoe to his celebrity stress and childhood trauma.very selfish.children are not there to.solve anybodys mental heslth issues.he should have gone to therapy not use children as disposable emotional aid or sexual grstification
It sure does seem that mj is guilty. Either brett is telling the truth or has be so brainwashed and repressed. You can hear him often exprees, my sister was there, my cousins who were girls, etc. Since this is a biasd podcast, its definitely one sided. Arvizo is suspect. Chandler is suspect but james seems legit. Wade is a bit sketchy. Mcmsnus is sketchy. I cant see why james would lie
I think Jackson didled them all.
I found something online about Safechucks family business was going downhill. I’d need to fact check that though.
@@1989maihan Michael Jackson's family business was going downhill.
@@michaeljacksonsaguiltypref3600 👍
Turns out Safechuck was being sued himself and his family’s waste management business was in financial strain.
He also coincidentally starting amending his claims so they met all the criteria for compensation for the civil case.
A lot of his claims don’t add up and the timeline is out of whack. His mum not once ever mentioned a change in his demeanour or noticed anything strange from the moment he alleges to be molested.
Who would want to sleep with a 20 years older man in a bed for so many nights if not groomed? Why to sleep with him? So M was recreating his childhood, hahaha and the boys were creating what??
@Autumnal Serenity Jackso wasnt a kid. Grow up. He was an adult with his sexual need that appear at certain age. Kids dont have such needs. You want to cover his love for boys with kiddy sleepovers?
@Autumnal Serenity the question is: why did Michael like sleepovers. Not the boys were accused but Michael. Michael was a grown man with an adult body and needs.
@Autumnal Serenity Thats the point- I dont and I dont invite any children into my bed. Michael did and these were boys aged 7-14. That's a well known fact. No adult should sleep with kids in the same bed. If you say otherwise, you're wrong.
@Autumnal Serenity Then you have no information at all. Do your researxh. Michael slept many nights with boys. Micheal also would go to their houses to sleep with them as in case od Jordan, James or Brett.Michael was taking them to tours. He wasnt taking women. He preffered boys, as simple as that. What you are saying now, I was sayng in 1993, but we are in 2023 right now. We know more and these are facts.
@Autumnal Serenity You are naive. Those boys landed in this man's bed without his will. Laughable. And there isnt just one accuser, there are at least 5. Thereare also a lot more cute boys M slept with.
Brett's experience is his and his alone. When Brett now in his 40s states that "he did not see anything that would of given him concern" says a great deal. A man sharing a bedroom alone with any unrelated child should give him a reason for concern. Charles Thompson obviously has an agenda and his ask anything style seems to be ask anything that confirms his bias.
Yeah its called the truth
You don't see how you make no sense at all right? Brett was one of those unrelated kids! Why would that give him concern when nothing sexual happened there? He knows what happened, he was there. And Brett spent way more time with MJ than Robson or Safechuck or Chandler. It is entirelly logical to conclude if MJ was innocent with Brett Mac Jonathan Emmanuel Frank Eddie Omer than he was innocent with Robson Safechuck Chandler too, especially when those three had undeniable financial motive to lie and their stories are full of holes
Bruh Brett was one of the kids that spent time with him and he is telling you nothing happened just let it be bruh
Imho Both MJ and Brett were experiencing the same reality but It meant 2 diferent things to Both.To Brett the core of the relationship was the games and fun together.But dont get It twisted.Michsel has publicly started how he liked chuldrens face their beauty.Brett wasnt there only because of his personality.We all know It,Michael knew It and its something Brett needs to start to understand.That this man loved to see his face day after day hug him and kiss him.And the things he understood as paternal or brotherly LOVE probably had other meaning to Michael.Michael not s.abusing Brett doesnt mean he didnt do It to others.Abusers test waters.its highly posible he sensed Brett wasnt going to go along with sexual activity and he kept It as a platonic relationship.I want to ask every fan.what was special about Brett and Jordy over any other child? Why did Michael gave them vip treatment even better than his own nephews?? Its not like they were a supertalented kid that he wanted to turn intona Superstar...theres no really special quality to them.they are not superfunny like Emmanuel Lewis.I would LOVE to hang out with Emmanuel myself.if we are all honest we have to say what made Brett and Jordy special from other kids was their beauty and Thats the reason why Michael made them his focus of interest.lets stop lying to ourself.we dont know 100% what he did to them but he wabted to see their pretty face.other than thatntheybwere just regular kids,not talented,not funny or super inteligent
Actually, LN is not the first time where it is implied that BB was his boy too. Book by Anderson, book by Gutiares and other. This is nothing new. Hanging out with doo doos, yeah. Every Doo Doo was, accidentally, a good looking Doo Doo. Not appropriate, dont buy the sweetness, sory. BB cool guy, though.
How you gonna reference a actual pedophile as your argument? I did a loud chuckle when you said gutiares. Its like you’re throwing stuff out there without realizing what you’re saying. Also you’re all over this comment thread and you haven’t said anything that hasn’t already been long disproving
@autumnalserenity2023If you listened to the older episode of the MJCast with Scott Ross, he said Gavin had Wilms' Tumour and not cancer.
The Gutierrez book is already debunked
You didnt know that Mj sued victor and won the case for 2.7 million dollars ?
@autumnalserenity2023they lied to many ppl abt Gavin's stage
Btw LN is full of lies , all of what u mentioned is trasg
He says no one coached him? I don't buy it. EVERYONE is coached before they take the stand.
That's true. Thank you for saying this.
That isn’t the coaching that’s implied in the question.
Big difference between 'this is what happens' and 'this is what you are going to say' - coaching implies the latter
Coached means the witness is told what to say instead of the truth.
Brett is saying he was not told what to say
The best part :
"- Are you in denial?
- Absolutely not."
I don't know if this was meant to be funny but thanks for the laugh.
More seriously, I believe this man. I believe MJ had special friends he did nothing illegal with, and Brett seems to be one of them.
And I also believe Wade and James. 100%.
I'm very sad for all of them because MJ armed them all in some way. I mean Brett's life has been ruined because of what MJ did to other boys.
What are you talking about Robson and Safechuck?
Why don't you do some research and look into history?
After MJ's death, Robson had financial problems and at first started selling MJ's belongings. ^He needed money)
He sent a letter to MJ'Estate trying to get hired as the director for Cirque du Soleil's MJ One, but James King (a choreographer who was also on MJ's dance team) was hired, so it was natural to- hire him to choose him. .
Robson was shocked and started talking about "abuse". but before that he asked his mother via email about "care" and "abuse". His mother said it never happened.
He said in the LN that his family went to the Grand Canyon and he was left alone with Michael. But in 2016, his mother testified that their entire family went to the Grand Canyon. He made a video in 2007 saying that Neverland is sacred ground. He wanted to get married in Neverland. (Don't tell me he was in love with MJ back then, especially when he had a fiancée and wanted to get married!)
The Safechuck family was in trouble because the garbage company was sued by associates for fraud and had to pay millions of dollars. It was only then in 2013 that Safechuck "realized" he had been "sexually abused" by MJ when he saw Robson on TV. But his mother jumped out of bed and danced when MJ died in 2009.
I wonder if his mother didn't know about the "abuse" but dances when she hears a man is dead? This is creepy! Safechuck's rings.
I looked closely at pictures of him when he was a child and he had no jewelry. A is a video of MJ and JS being at the jewelry store, but the interview with Broke Shields who said he got a very nice ring from MJ was "skipped".
And let's not talk about the "abuse" in non-existent buildings.
@@Feluc1 Wake up, Akexa. You're a grown uo now. Time to leave Neverland.
Nothing of what you wrote made sense.
Hows their cases going? lol
Let me guess, you’re a delusional person from the Q-anon esque echo chamber called “LNHBO”
I'm disgusted that you believe Robson and Safechuck's fabricated narratives. Truth is their parents wanted MJ for the money and fame. I strongly think Brett's parents weren't money-hungry hence the long duration of Michael's friendship with the Barnes.