@@thomaswood2418 I agree! Their chemistry is the thing that I I think allows him to show more range. Can't even believe I used to watch Whitlock on this show though. Lmao
@@derrekforeal2829 bro u can have a different pov but Acho bring up Cellus wife n kids up on the show more than Wiley and he be cool. And it sound like u didn't watch when Whitlock was in charge💯
It was a failure in terms of winning a championship but the man came back from an Achilles injury and didn’t miss a step that’s a success in it of itself
He came back from the worse injury in sports and dominated and was an inch away from the conference finals without much help. His confidence going into next season is about to be crazy!
@@jandt3463 normally I would agree because I personally only care about winning but we live in a day and age where his peer gets praised for losing more than he won. So considering the circumstances he had a good comeback season. No one knew what to expect.
@@Whoa_dummy Jordans comeback was game 6 title clinching victory just so we are clear about true "comebacks". Mike Tyson his title win, Tiger Woods the Masters, you see where I am at? No comeback is complete without a 🏆. Every era would agree.....
I disagree completely to come back from an Achilles tear and play some of the best basketball he’s ever played is a great comeback season in my book 🤷🏾♂️
NBA expectation consistency. Any other great player returning and playing well, but misses finals run are judged very differently. Why double standards for KD? Apologists are still crying.
@Rishitiran Anandeswaran I agree KD returned and played outstanding ball (95% efficiency). I think Klay hopes to. Wall and Cousins were hoping to. Kobe did. So many players and teams for whatever reason didn't advance in this post and we are not discussing them, but moving forward. The initial conversation centered around advancing to finals.
Charles Barkley and Carl Malone “Careers” weren’t nt failures because they were great during there time and successful basketball players … they weren’t successful in winning a chip but they were successful as nba players
What if he was at 80% it’s just that his natural ascending improvement made home 20% better than before the injury? And next year he’s at 100% and that much better?
Acho brings up injuries for the Lakers/LBJ losing, but speaks of KD losing individually. No mention of Nets injuries tho. Would like to know what team he played on that was built around him & expectations were that high.
nah he's comeback was not a failure. And he isn't done yet anyways watch him now play his mind out in the Olympics and win the Gold medal for team USA.
KD’s season was a failure; his recovery a success, because he missed too many regular season games and got bounced in the playoffs. He is a baller and ballers ball; but to miss so many games and not make noise in the playoffs is a failure according to expectations. If Giannis got bounced we say his season was a failure because of expectations even though his seasonal state line again was historical.
Only one team win a championship and going to a game 7 in the second round is making some noise. Who you lose to matters, Philly was a failure because they got upset. Nets lost to a top 5 team in the nba. This narrative of championship or bust is why guys are teamming up. It’s okay to not win a championship some years
KD took nearly two years off to recover and had a stacked team. So according to expectations his season was a failure. They play for championships not pats on the back. 29 teams will have a failure of a season when it’s done.
It was a failure because everyone was calling the nets to win the chip and they didn’t even make it to the conference finals. Before the season started all these people had the nets as their favorites to win they failed expectations which makes this season a failure.
If we are going to speak about him as on wolf the greats then he needs to recieve the same energy instead of protection because they are scared to hear from him
So when Harden and Blake and Aldridge requested a trade to Brooklyn that was KD stacking deck not others players who have free choice choosing to play with him.............. your a KD haters
“It’s a failure even though only one person in NBA history has come back great from an Achilles tear. Except Kevin came back arguably better… and all his star teammates got hurt. But still a failure.” Foh
@@SuperTrustFall yeah, failure around KD. Kd bounced back and was great, played out of his mind. Isn’t his fault his teammates went down and Harden played like a joke on one leg the last two games. Lebron was exposed on defense and didn’t play great to his standard. KD put up some of the best numbers in playoff history while playing all minutes and losing to a better team. Difference
@@SuperTrustFall lmao sounds like an excuse for your idol there bud. Lebron played and was fine. He rested before the playoffs for his minor injuries and so did KD. KD was coming off two major injuries so acting like KD was just so much more healthy than Lebron shows how much of a rider you are. It’s ok, Father Time catches everybody.
@@johnhancock1362 You're ridiculous man, LeBron had a bad ankle. Anybody that's seen him play would know he wasn't himself. But you go ahead now and keep being dumb. It suits you.
These dudes are so much more fun to listen to than Max and SAS. That duo is toxic, my goodness. All SAS does is disagree and misinterpret everything Max says. And all Max does is hate on KD and Steph.
Acho be slaying Marcellus lately... but it is hilarious to hear ppl say they love that Whitlock aint on this show no more. Why? Dude brought takes that nobody wants to hear but needs to hear. Alot of yall stay in yalls feelings
Lmao Acho crazy "... He Came Back From An Injury, He Hit A Turnaround Jumper In A Game That He... Lost!..." 🤣🤣🤣 I get what He's saying and I agree. A year for Steph personally? Absolute Success. - Scoring Champ - Multiple Player of The Month awards - Second Largest 30 point streak games or something like that - 3 Point Contest Winner - record breaking streaks of 10 3's per game - Joined MJ, Wilt, Kareem as only players with multiple chips, mvp's and scoring titles - took a last seeded team last season to 8th seed this season coming back from injury(normal seasons would be in the playoffs, this season was in Playin) A year for Steph and the Warriors? Absolute Failure. Like wise for KD Personally? Success. - came back from injury, Played like he never missed a step - one of the most amazing playoff games - took a fully healthy Bucks to a Game 7 A year for KD and the Nets? Absolute Failure.
KD return was a success on a personal level, he proves he is the most efficient scorer along with Kyrie in the NBA today, but the NETs season wasn't a success due to injuries, and the weird thing is they tried everything, prepared and protected their superstars and yet they got injured at the wrong time
I'd say it was a success. You got Harden and Griffin to join the team, next year you'll have them going into the season, and you'll also have Dinwiddie. We keep forgetting that this team was in flux all year...it was nothing like the KD-Warriors or the Heatles or the 2008 Celtics. Those guys at least got a season together going into the playoffs. Plus I don't remember any of them coming back from injuries. Obviously it's always disappointing to not win the chip, but I think of all the guys with the injury excuse, KD's is the most valid. He was out there depending on Jeff Green because the rest of his team was either injured or they'd gone cold (looking at you Joe Harris). Nothing against Jeff Green, but if he's your 2nd option against a team on the level of the Bucks, you're gonna lose in a 7-game series.
Acho is right the season overall was a failure, but KD did have some micro success. In terms of the playoffs he had one of the greatest performances of all time and then followed it up by one of the greatest game 7s of all time. He earned some respect now he has to go get it next season. He's on his revenge tour and he will have won the hearts of the fans back after. Its starts with winning gold for the U.S.
marcellus, it was a failure. for KD, Harden who left to win, Kylie who missed part of the season now part of the playoffs, for the coach who overplayed his star players all around id say could've been better
I'm a die hard laker fan but I respect durants game...acho's take is just crazy talk, he came from a bad injury & put up great numbers. He couldn't control injuries around him, that's my take
Lebron got bounced in the first round to the suns getting blown out by 40 twice… and no he wasn’t injured bc he was injured bc in game 1,2 but as soon as they start losing he injured….
What a terrible level of analysis. You can't just call it a failure cause they didn't win.a title. There are so many other factors that contribute to winning.
@@christopherhorn1161 you look pretty old bro you seem like you just hate greatness, if anything the nets tried to cheat it I’m a lebron fan but we not gonna sit here and act like KD requested to play with harden it was the opposite ool
How is signing to a team cheating? He’s not the owner of the franchise they sign who they can afford. There was no cheating taking place that makes no sense.
@@iosinc1169 greatness? How does greatness reach only 3 Nba finals in 14 years and goes out the second round when he’s the lone star? Which Final was Lebron on when he was 32? Idk
@@antonyburns180 he always looking to stack the deck...that Warriors move was weak, and I'm so glad that AAU team he assembled failed, that mess shouldn't be rewarded.
Goal posts always move for KD. First he was gonna be a shell of himself off the Achilles, then they said him and Kyrie won’t work, then they said the Harden trade got rid of any little defense and depth they had and the locker room will implode. After all that doubting, in the same breath they were labeled unbeatable and comparable to golden state. If you want to label them a fail of a season, you gotta put this years Lakers, 2019 warriors, and 2015 Cavs as failures too since they didn’t win a title 🤷🏾♂️
Because of the injuries, this season was clearly a failure for the Nets, but KD is trying to position himself as #1 on the team by making this about him.
Acho is right about this season. The Nets got the best trio in NBA hands down and aren't even in the conference finals. Maybe the best trio in NBA history.
Wiley you tripping it was a failure point blank period…. Any superstar that doesn’t get to the playoffs or doesn’t win a chip it’s a failure for that season
Apologists are still crying about KD when the NBA playoffs are about to narrow down to the last two teams standing. Wiley stop looking in the rear view. No double standards for KD.
Success is define as the accomplishment of an aim or purpose. Brooklyn goal was to win the title or at least make the finals that's a failed season. Compare that to the Knicks who had playoffs as a goal, their season was a successful one because their aim was different!
You don’t have to be a great athlete to criticize an athlete. You never were a president and probably will be a below average president but you still criticize every single president. That’s a weak take fam
Kevin durant didnt have a successful season he didnt look like himself when he was in OKC and GS... ya’ll need to stop saying he came back and dominated after his injury because he didnt he had issues and missed games on and off during the season smh KD needs another year to fully recover from his injury
I believe people who root for lesser franchises, meaning franchise who are not expecting to win a chip every year just don't understand ... A play off birth , a second round, a conference finals, a finals loss... It's all a failure it means nothing to a Lakers fan.. it's literally a waste of a season and time .. a failure
Failure not at all but a success not hardly. Just a missed opportunity because of injuries as well as players not playing for various of unacceptable reasons.
Acho tells Wiley to his face of all the factual failures in LeBron James' career, yet he will still have the unmitigated gall to come out on national television every to proclaim LeBron James, or really try to convince himself and the world, that LeBron James is the goat when this season confirmed that he is at best 3rd all-time after MJ and Abdul-Jabar. But now folks are starting to say that Magic and Kobe are ahead of him.
idc what anyone says.Look at the teams left.Its a failure.See how he the world best player but couldnt get out the second round.Boy stop its trae young n no jumper Giannis left.Stop the cap.This was another ring with all the stars out the playoffs.Who knows what happens next year.Kyrie hasn't finished a year in idk how long.Harden thought he could get fat.Get traded to the exact team he wanted For Scary Hour.If the Bucks win.They will have another level of confidence next year.Not including someone gonna make a big splash this summer
Steph season was a success.. technically he made the playoffs based on regular nba seasons (not covid seasons) playing with the worst team in the last 5 years(Facts) missing 5 players including klay, oubre and wiseman playing 8 ppl with no true center while being tripled team leading the league in scoring (effeciently) Gsw was a 6 seed before curry got hurt and they went 1-7 without him ....stop it only curry can have his team losing without him actually make him fall in the MVP race 😂😂😂 anybody else would of skyrocketed to leading the mvp race..and curry beat phoenix, utah, lakers, clippers , bucks, Denver twice , and embid and proved he can carry A team in the worst conditions 🐐
Shows and fans like this are why sports coverage is terrible. Never nuance. Of course lacking nuance is what keeps the audience engaged. Don’t make it right. nick Wright referenced something the other day and he’s was spot on. He said we shouldn’t hold KD to Lebrons rather we should move forward and not hold anybody (including Lebron) to the standard and unfairness we held him.
You can run 10 miles every single day. But in one week you run 20 miles on Monday, 20 on Tuesday and 20 on Wednesday come Thursday you can’t even do 2 miles...... your body wasn’t meant to run 60 miles in three days same with how it’s rare to see guys play 48+ mins in 3 straight games.
Super failure y’all was expected to win the championship yes you have injures but that’s still no excuse you still had KD and others if he that dude he should got the job done PERIODT
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These dudes make a great team.. Acho joining the show has really brought out the best in Marcellus..
Honestly marcellus been on point in his debates Acho jus got better chemistry and don't be in his feelings like Whitlock was
Absolutely! Great point
@@thomaswood2418 I agree! Their chemistry is the thing that I I think allows him to show more range. Can't even believe I used to watch Whitlock on this show though. Lmao
@@thomaswood2418 Cell stay in his feelings come on now just say you don't want to hear different points of views...
@@derrekforeal2829 bro u can have a different pov but Acho bring up Cellus wife n kids up on the show more than Wiley and he be cool. And it sound like u didn't watch when Whitlock was in charge💯
It was a failure in terms of winning a championship but the man came back from an Achilles injury and didn’t miss a step that’s a success in it of itself
I have to concur. I think he'll be better next year. It's good to have high expectations but we must NOT dismiss progress.
stop it, it was 2 years ago
He came back from the worse injury in sports and dominated and was an inch away from the conference finals without much help. His confidence going into next season is about to be crazy!
stop it, been 2 years already
@@youraverage90sguys7 go rupture your Achilles and we can see how soon you are back to your old self. Stupid comment
@@Whoa_dummy He lost. That's all that matters. Almost doesn't count.
@@jandt3463 normally I would agree because I personally only care about winning but we live in a day and age where his peer gets praised for losing more than he won. So considering the circumstances he had a good comeback season. No one knew what to expect.
@@Whoa_dummy Jordans comeback was game 6 title clinching victory just so we are clear about true "comebacks". Mike Tyson his title win, Tiger Woods the Masters, you see where I am at? No comeback is complete without a 🏆. Every era would agree.....
I disagree completely to come back from an Achilles tear and play some of the best basketball he’s ever played is a great comeback season in my book 🤷🏾♂️
I can agree with that
I agree his recovery was a success but according to expectations it’s a failure.
@@heziBezi7 that’s a valid point
NBA expectation consistency. Any other great player returning and playing well, but misses finals run are judged very differently. Why double standards for KD? Apologists are still crying.
@Rishitiran Anandeswaran
I agree KD returned and played outstanding ball (95% efficiency).
I think Klay hopes to. Wall and Cousins were hoping to. Kobe did. So many players and teams for whatever reason didn't advance in this post and we are not discussing them, but moving forward. The initial conversation centered around advancing to finals.
Former football players talking basketball was always weird to me
You just know Kd about to go ballistic in the olympics
The only factual comment
Facts he is going to set the tone for his next season.
He’s gonna be clapping back in different languages on Twitter
He ain't on the squad
@@dueynewton1139 I saw him on the roster a couple of days ago. Did he drop out or some?
Charles Barkley and Carl Malone “Careers” weren’t nt failures because they were great during there time and successful basketball players … they weren’t successful in winning a chip but they were successful as nba players
I love these two brothers. They have come a long way
This dude is coming a an Achilles injury! People said he wouldn’t come back 80%!
What if he was at 80% it’s just that his natural ascending improvement made home 20% better than before the injury? And next year he’s at 100% and that much better?
Nobody said that especially not with new me done practices and him not playing for over like a year
stop it, been 2 years already
what if he was 80% and won a championship? Championships are getting overrated individually
@@youraverage90sguys7 lmao 2 years later is your excuse?
Acho brings up injuries for the Lakers/LBJ losing, but speaks of KD losing individually. No mention of Nets injuries tho. Would like to know what team he played on that was built around him & expectations were that high.
nah he's comeback was not a failure. And he isn't done yet anyways watch him now play his mind out in the Olympics and win the Gold medal for team USA.
KD’s season was a failure; his recovery a success, because he missed too many regular season games and got bounced in the playoffs. He is a baller and ballers ball; but to miss so many games and not make noise in the playoffs is a failure according to expectations. If Giannis got bounced we say his season was a failure because of expectations even though his seasonal state line again was historical.
If giannis suffered an Achilles injury he’d be done in the nba. Let that sink in
Nothing about KD's season was a failure, you're a failure though.
Bruh he didn’t play that many games BECAUSE of his injury…
Only one team win a championship and going to a game 7 in the second round is making some noise. Who you lose to matters, Philly was a failure because they got upset. Nets lost to a top 5 team in the nba. This narrative of championship or bust is why guys are teamming up. It’s okay to not win a championship some years
KD took nearly two years off to recover and had a stacked team. So according to expectations his season was a failure. They play for championships not pats on the back. 29 teams will have a failure of a season when it’s done.
A success in that you look at how he recovered from the Achilles compared to most, a failure in terms of expectations of team coming up short
stop it, been 2 years already
Love the chemistry and sports knowledge between these two.
acho out here performing spoken word during his takes 🤣
Great take!
Then Achos whole life is a failure.....
It was a failure because everyone was calling the nets to win the chip and they didn’t even make it to the conference finals. Before the season started all these people had the nets as their favorites to win they failed expectations which makes this season a failure.
Acho tripping. Steph curry season was a success
Dang KD disliked this video quick lol
Lets see bron dominant off an Achilles injury
@@sirhoopalot1125 impossible. He only runs at the rim. He'd need to get a proper jumper and some post and mid range game
The pass or fail was a great analogy
Im convinced...KD smashed Acho's girl in college
Facts 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You might be onto something. They were both at UT relatively close to each other! Lol
Had to bruh 🤣
I think they are underrating the bucks. Btw KD was by himself avg 36ppg with washed up trash Blake griffin his best teammate. Stop it
They are definitely under rating the Bucks, especially since the Bucks will be champions.
If we are going to speak about him as on wolf the greats then he needs to recieve the same energy instead of protection because they are scared to hear from him
It was a failure, KD tried to super stack the deck again and went home early
So when Harden and Blake and Aldridge requested a trade to Brooklyn that was KD stacking deck not others players who have free choice choosing to play with him.............. your a KD haters
@@kayg7195 they didn't get traded to Brooklyn they got bought out from their respective teams
“It’s a failure even though only one person in NBA history has come back great from an Achilles tear. Except Kevin came back arguably better… and all his star teammates got hurt. But still a failure.” Foh
Failing bodies count as failure as well. Ask LeBron about his season FOH
@@SuperTrustFall yeah, failure around KD. Kd bounced back and was great, played out of his mind. Isn’t his fault his teammates went down and Harden played like a joke on one leg the last two games. Lebron was exposed on defense and didn’t play great to his standard. KD put up some of the best numbers in playoff history while playing all minutes and losing to a better team. Difference
@@johnhancock1362 Bron WASN'T healthy and the rest of his team played like bums. KD was healthy and couldn't get it done 🤷♂️
@@SuperTrustFall lmao sounds like an excuse for your idol there bud. Lebron played and was fine. He rested before the playoffs for his minor injuries and so did KD. KD was coming off two major injuries so acting like KD was just so much more healthy than Lebron shows how much of a rider you are. It’s ok, Father Time catches everybody.
@@johnhancock1362 You're ridiculous man, LeBron had a bad ankle. Anybody that's seen him play would know he wasn't himself. But you go ahead now and keep being dumb. It suits you.
I’m convinced Acho got something against KD fr
These dudes are so much more fun to listen to than Max and SAS. That duo is toxic, my goodness. All SAS does is disagree and misinterpret everything Max says. And all Max does is hate on KD and Steph.
I actually cannot watch this more than a minute
Yea, hearing Acho hate on KD annoys me. But a lot of people share the same hateration so they love him.
Acho be slaying Marcellus lately... but it is hilarious to hear ppl say they love that Whitlock aint on this show no more. Why? Dude brought takes that nobody wants to hear but needs to hear. Alot of yall stay in yalls feelings
Lmao Acho crazy "... He Came Back From An Injury, He Hit A Turnaround Jumper In A Game That He... Lost!..." 🤣🤣🤣
I get what He's saying and I agree.
A year for Steph personally?
Absolute Success.
- Scoring Champ
- Multiple Player of The Month awards
- Second Largest 30 point streak games or something like that
- 3 Point Contest Winner
- record breaking streaks of 10 3's per game
- Joined MJ, Wilt, Kareem as only players with multiple chips, mvp's and scoring titles
- took a last seeded team last season to 8th seed this season coming back from injury(normal seasons would be in the playoffs, this season was in Playin)
A year for Steph and the Warriors? Absolute Failure.
Like wise for KD
Personally?
Success.
- came back from injury, Played like he never missed a step
- one of the most amazing playoff games
- took a fully healthy Bucks to a Game 7
A year for KD and the Nets? Absolute Failure.
KD return was a success on a personal level, he proves he is the most efficient scorer along with Kyrie in the NBA today, but the NETs season wasn't a success due to injuries, and the weird thing is they tried everything, prepared and protected their superstars and yet they got injured at the wrong time
I'd say it was a success. You got Harden and Griffin to join the team, next year you'll have them going into the season, and you'll also have Dinwiddie. We keep forgetting that this team was in flux all year...it was nothing like the KD-Warriors or the Heatles or the 2008 Celtics. Those guys at least got a season together going into the playoffs. Plus I don't remember any of them coming back from injuries.
Obviously it's always disappointing to not win the chip, but I think of all the guys with the injury excuse, KD's is the most valid. He was out there depending on Jeff Green because the rest of his team was either injured or they'd gone cold (looking at you Joe Harris). Nothing against Jeff Green, but if he's your 2nd option against a team on the level of the Bucks, you're gonna lose in a 7-game series.
Acho is right the season overall was a failure, but KD did have some micro success. In terms of the playoffs he had one of the greatest performances of all time and then followed it up by one of the greatest game 7s of all time. He earned some respect now he has to go get it next season. He's on his revenge tour and he will have won the hearts of the fans back after. Its starts with winning gold for the U.S.
I see why this shows ratings are trash 😂😂😂
Acho last take sealed the agreement for me. There are levels of failures and success.
marcellus, it was a failure. for KD, Harden who left to win, Kylie who missed part of the season now part of the playoffs, for the coach who overplayed his star players all around id say could've been better
I'm a die hard laker fan but I respect durants game...acho's take is just crazy talk, he came from a bad injury & put up great numbers. He couldn't control injuries around him, that's my take
Can’t win without joining a 73-9 team and a team he had down 3-1
We'll see....
Okay loser lol
Lebron averaged 17 points in 2011 finals playing along 2 other superstars…
Lebron couldn’t make the playoffs without Anthony Davis..who’s obviously their best player..
Lebron got bounced in the first round to the suns getting blown out by 40 twice… and no he wasn’t injured bc he was injured bc in game 1,2 but as soon as they start losing he injured….
What a terrible level of analysis. You can't just call it a failure cause they didn't win.a title. There are so many other factors that contribute to winning.
KD tried to cheat the game again and try to get another easy title, glad the basketball gods weren't having any of it.
@Elijah Hardaway I hate Lebron
@@christopherhorn1161 you look pretty old bro you seem like you just hate greatness, if anything the nets tried to cheat it I’m a lebron fan but we not gonna sit here and act like KD requested to play with harden it was the opposite ool
How is signing to a team cheating? He’s not the owner of the franchise they sign who they can afford. There was no cheating taking place that makes no sense.
@@iosinc1169 greatness? How does greatness reach only 3 Nba finals in 14 years and goes out the second round when he’s the lone star? Which Final was Lebron on when he was 32? Idk
@@antonyburns180 he always looking to stack the deck...that Warriors move was weak, and I'm so glad that AAU team he assembled failed, that mess shouldn't be rewarded.
Goal posts always move for KD. First he was gonna be a shell of himself off the Achilles, then they said him and Kyrie won’t work, then they said the Harden trade got rid of any little defense and depth they had and the locker room will implode. After all that doubting, in the same breath they were labeled unbeatable and comparable to golden state. If you want to label them a fail of a season, you gotta put this years Lakers, 2019 warriors, and 2015 Cavs as failures too since they didn’t win a title 🤷🏾♂️
Great take by acho,
Not a failure at all
The team as a whole failed, not so much KD himself. Failure all the same, and they lost
Because of the injuries, this season was clearly a failure for the Nets, but KD is trying to position himself as #1 on the team by making this about him.
From 2:43 to 2:51 Acho was spitting
Nets load managed all season and still wasn't healthy for the playoffs
What do you mean they load managed
You can't load manage and prepare for Giannis undercutting Kyrie.
Acho won this one
Why? What he’s saying is why nba players team up
Personal success, pass. Team success, fail.
Acho is right about this season. The Nets got the best trio in NBA hands down and aren't even in the conference finals. Maybe the best trio in NBA history.
one word. INJURIES .
Best Sports Show on TV
Acho a LeBron stan, so he'll find a way to poo poo on KD
Wiley you tripping it was a failure point blank period…. Any superstar that doesn’t get to the playoffs or doesn’t win a chip it’s a failure for that season
Apologists are still crying about KD when the NBA playoffs are about to narrow down to the last two teams standing. Wiley stop looking in the rear view. No double standards for KD.
The Lakers only lose to injury I like how convinenetly gets ignored
failing to prepare the body for success is also preparing to fail ehm ehm AD.
Success is define as
the accomplishment of an aim or purpose. Brooklyn goal was to win the title or at least make the finals that's a failed season. Compare that to the Knicks who had playoffs as a goal, their season was a successful one because their aim was different!
That's every team's goal, so that means everybody's a failure.
To say his season was a failure is above pay grades
When did losing become consider success?
You expect a man, fresh off the Achilles tear, on a fresh team to win a championship team? STOP IT!
Smartest sports show, bar none. I'd listen to these two talk tiddely winks.
It was a failure, you can blame it on injuries but they didn't do what they was posed to do..
Below Average former athletes questioning great athletes just doesn't make sense to me
You don’t have to be a great athlete to criticize an athlete. You never were a president and probably will be a below average president but you still criticize every single president. That’s a weak take fam
Dude stacked the deck and acted like losing one star was a big deal when you had 6 all stars on the team lol
Better than skip
Injuries is why the Nets season wasn't successful along with the Lakers and about 20 other teams
I believe that if that you put Lebron on the nets they would be in the final and everyone would be saying it’s because it’s the east
Kevin durant didnt have a successful season he didnt look like himself when he was in OKC and GS... ya’ll need to stop saying he came back and dominated after his injury because he didnt he had issues and missed games on and off during the season smh KD needs another year to fully recover from his injury
I believe people who root for lesser franchises, meaning franchise who are not expecting to win a chip every year just don't understand ... A play off birth , a second round, a conference finals, a finals loss... It's all a failure it means nothing to a Lakers fan.. it's literally a waste of a season and time .. a failure
Giannis went home in the second round last year as well was that a successful season
Nope. Championship or bust. No second place trophies 🏆
Failure not at all but a success not hardly. Just a missed opportunity because of injuries as well as players not playing for various of unacceptable reasons.
What a horrible take
I actually liked achos take I thought he would come in here hating again. But it's fair I guess. Still riding with cell though! Lol
Give them some time
Acho tells Wiley to his face of all the factual failures in LeBron James' career, yet he will still have the unmitigated gall to come out on national television every to proclaim LeBron James, or really try to convince himself and the world, that LeBron James is the goat when this season confirmed that he is at best 3rd all-time after MJ and Abdul-Jabar. But now folks are starting to say that Magic and Kobe are ahead of him.
idc what anyone says.Look at the teams left.Its a failure.See how he the world best player but couldnt get out the second round.Boy stop its trae young n no jumper Giannis left.Stop the cap.This was another ring with all the stars out the playoffs.Who knows what happens next year.Kyrie hasn't finished a year in idk how long.Harden thought he could get fat.Get traded to the exact team he wanted For Scary Hour.If the Bucks win.They will have another level of confidence next year.Not including someone gonna make a big splash this summer
Bucks are still a good team tho. Hawks idk how they’re doing it lmfao
You can do all your homework but if you fail the s.a.t. U will be held back
Brooklyn don't get that far of Harden never got there.
What round you lose in doesn’t matter it’s who you lose to Lmaoo
They failed cause they got together to win a championship just like when he went to Golden State championship or bust
Another dumb take from a ex football player…
Another kD basketball boyfriend, in his feelings 😂
kD lost to Giannis dawg, deal with it
It dam sure wasn't a success cause of Harden joining.
Replace acho omg he is the worst basketball analysis!!
Steph season was a success.. technically he made the playoffs based on regular nba seasons (not covid seasons) playing with the worst team in the last 5 years(Facts) missing 5 players including klay, oubre and wiseman playing 8 ppl with no true center while being tripled team leading the league in scoring (effeciently) Gsw was a 6 seed before curry got hurt and they went 1-7 without him ....stop it only curry can have his team losing without him actually make him fall in the MVP race 😂😂😂 anybody else would of skyrocketed to leading the mvp race..and curry beat phoenix, utah, lakers, clippers , bucks, Denver twice , and embid and proved he can carry
A team in the worst conditions 🐐
Why is this guy on a show talking about sports? 4 years in the NFL: 33 careers tackles. Please find someone qualified to talk about sports
Shows and fans like this are why sports coverage is terrible. Never nuance. Of course lacking nuance is what keeps the audience engaged. Don’t make it right. nick Wright referenced something the other day and he’s was spot on. He said we shouldn’t hold KD to Lebrons rather we should move forward and not hold anybody (including Lebron) to the standard and unfairness we held him.
Sucks that acho didn't finish the LeBron take by saying he came back from injury and got the chip. 🔥 just saying😶
Nahh bron came back and didn’t make the playplayoffs. Mj missed an entire season came back and lost second round
Idk how my man was tired when he played like 40 games lol
Bro he played every single minute of that game, including overtime. Of course he'd be tired
You can run 10 miles every single day. But in one week you run 20 miles on Monday, 20 on Tuesday and 20 on Wednesday come Thursday you can’t even do 2 miles...... your body wasn’t meant to run 60 miles in three days same with how it’s rare to see guys play 48+ mins in 3 straight games.
Lol Kevin Durant making a conference semifinal is a success? This is the same guy you compare to LeBron? Yikes.
If not winning a title means failure
Please keep that same energy with Lebron and stop talking about making the finals
At least be consistent
He actually said that. What are you watching??
Wiley is pulling at straws trying to prove point
Whattttt??
Yes he super recovered from the achilles but it’s championship or bust. Stop playing games ain’t no second place trophies 🏆…. This isn’t the Olympics.
Super failure y’all was expected to win the championship yes you have injures but that’s still no excuse you still had KD and others if he that dude he should got the job done PERIODT
@Rishitiran Anandeswaran tf 😂came back barely played regular and got to playoffs and lost
I hate fans like you. No room for nuance. This culture of sports fans and sports talk shows is toxic.
doesnt matter, this show sucks and the host tries too hard...he tries really hard but i think thats what makes it worse
Marcellus : says : bee foe ? Before ???? Bad grammar
Dog ? These guys are professionals wow
Yo Mirror ?
Because they don’t speak proper English
Hook Ed u up
Wiley is horrible at his job
Kd bron curry. All failed this year. Only the winner isn’t a failure
This is the biggest bust in history!!!!
There was up 2 zero
It was a failure.
Fact!!! king James was hurt came back and won a tile!!!! Next!!!!!