Could this CHEAP Deer Fence REALLY WORK?
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I had a dog for 14 years and I never had a problem with garden thieves I never even seen a deer in the yard. She's been gone for 10 years I see game everywhere now they robbed me of everything woodchucks deer koons everything. A dog is a really good deterrent.
My pack will bark from the house but have detente with the deer in the back garden.
You are so right about the dog. I don't have a dog anymore. It's all the varmints in my garden. I've been using the fishing line, whatever old shit I had around. It works. For the deer, it's like walking into a spider web.
My Uncle had his dog houses in the garden.
Fed his dogs in the garden...
So, the dogs tended to be around the garden and protected it..
Good points. Wish I had a good dog. Vets today are ridiculous.
Last year deer ate ALL of my veggie plants, some within days of planting, from my small container garden. So I gave the “CHEAP Deer Fence” a try this season. Yay!!! So far so good and much better than last year-the plants in the container garden are living and blooming!!!!Thank you!🎉❤
I think that were many people go wrong with the fishing line is not understanding that it's meant to surprise & frighten the deer when they touch it. In order to do that there should be nothing visible to give them a hint that a fence is there. I've seen people use way too many fence posts. People putting the fence right along the very visible line between the garden & the surrounding grass, etc. it's important to look at the fence through the eyes of the deer & to remove or minimize anything that might make them expect to touch something where your fence is. I've used this fence to keep deer out of both our orchard & our garden for several years now & have found that moving it in or out a couple of feet each year keeps them guessing & keeps them out.
Great insight! This helps to explain, at least one good reason, why success seems to vary with fishing line fences.
It really is pretty much invisible. I'd love to know how it works for you in subsequent years. The surprise factor of running into something they can't see might wear off after awhile (I think they gossip to each other)! Your gardens are gorgeous, and so well kept!
I suspect the 'coons and other critters will help them.
Very similar to my concept.. increase the number of spans and overall height by using trees along your woodline edge with galvanized ring anchor screws on the trees.. and span the lines just as you did except use the trees as your posts..the idea is to keep the deer in the woods ..dont even let em get around garden.. and heavier pound test is always good.. if your ground level spans are closer together you maybe could keep out smaller animals like possums rabbits etc. Lots more line but to compare to the cost of actual deer fencing.. its well worth it..
Would this work for woodchucks with smaller spacing?
If woodchuck bumps into multiple spans of 30 or 40 pound test line it's going to spook/deter it at minimum.... the idea in video of vertical tying gives it more strength... makes the heavier pound test line really shine.. but it's a given if you wanna stop as many garden animal problems as possible you just use a lot of spans at heights of few inches off ground to 8 or more feet.. either way it's the cheapest fence alternative even if it means a few miles of fishing line
The rabbits will bite thru, only chicken wire will keep them out
Thanks for your very clear presentation. We've had complete success with using the chicken moat concept, placing two parallel four-foot fences six feet apart around the garden. Deer can jump very high (8' and more) and very far, but they can't jump both high and far on the same jump and thus don't dare jump the first fence as they have nowhere to land safely. After our yard having been a deer highway three years ago, we have literally not had a single hoofprint in the garden since we initiated this approach. We run the fencing down from the chicken coop to our 8,000 sq. ft. main garden and thus the chickens can circulate freely in the "moat" around the garden, free-ranging and picking off bugs that might otherwise get in the garden. It has similarly provided ideal protection for the chickens from predators. (It also keeps the chickens themselves out of the garden when they are free-ranging.) Of course, the start-up cost is much greater than the very creative and inexpensive approach you have shared with us. Thanks. I may well try out your approach with some of our smaller unfenced areas.
What type of wire fence did you use? Could cheaper chicken wire work? And did you add a top over the run? We have a lot of hawks in our area so I was thinking of doing this but adding maybe some criss crossing fishing line over top for protection or chicken wire.
I used a motion detector activated sprinkler in my garden which was quite effective.
I used one for years as well. But gave it up as I get quite a bit of wind which caused the sprinkler to go off repeatedly. Having wet plants during sunny days caused diseases as well.
I wonder if there is an air cannon kind of thing that just makes a puff of air that scares the deer? @@Cobbmtngirl
My cats would never forgive me.
Being driven crazy this year by deer. Have had my garden for twenty years. Have plenty of hosta and other things the deer love, but I have sprayed religiously. This year, it just doesn’t matter. They never touched my hosta and this year I’ve had to cover them with netting, which the rabbits crawl under. A friend gave me fishing line and I tried it on my dahlias, which only the rabbits were eating, and it worked great. I don’t think it was #30 or higher, though. I am going to enclose a few beds with this idea and you have given me the blueprint to do so. Thanks.
The deer can definitely be very destructive. I'd love to hear your report of how this method worked after you try it. Good luck!
This is exactly the answer I have been searching for... the deer ate so much of my garden this year... now I know what to do. Thank you so much!
There’s no guarantees, but I think it’s definitely worth a try. Good luck!
please keep us updated in a pinned comment here, and from time to time as needed, as to how well the fence has been working to this point. Thankyou for posting.
The fishing line concept depends on the level of deer pressure in your area. In the Appalachian foothills near Wheeling, WV, there are 100 deer per square mile.. We call them "long legged cockroaches." When the feeding pressure is that great, I seriously doubt that monofilament fishing line fencing is a permanent solution. It may work initially but they will eventually charge the fence line and bust it up. Someone prove me wrong. please.
That could definitely be the case. I'd like someone to test it as well.
I built an 8 ft fence with barbed wire
Agree! If they are hungry enough, they will get past this.
My grandfather and I have used just 2 fishing lines, one low and one midway for years and it put a stop to them getting into our garden. We tried all the old traditional ways, human hair, dog hair, Irish spring soap, construction tape and even a radio. Nothing worked long term except the fishing line.
Other inexpensive alternatives: When deer started raiding our garden, a friend suggested we place a radio in an adjacent shed that had electricity. A 24-hour news station at low volume proved very effective. (I turned it off when family members came camping by the garden, and the next day the deer were back.) I also tried motion-detector lights, but I am not sure this was effective. But if you already have the hardware and electrical access, it would be worth a try.
There is a device called "Deer Chaser" that incorporates all the ideas you mention above -- radio + light + motion-sensing. It runs on 3 D batteries which last at least a few months. It is pretty effective as long as you keep the batteries up and have a good place to mount it with good field of view of where you don't want the deer to go. It used to cost $25-$30 10 years ago.
Our deer don't care even if we are having a party in the yard, let alone sone harmless radio talking. If you live in the green part of US, your method might work, where food is scarce, like Colorado, that is absolutely ineffective.
@@svetlanapil8089You are so right.
Don't put music on the radio, I looked out and the deer had a disco ball and everything in the garden.
I live in a very green forest in Northern Virginia, indeed, wetter than some places thought of as wet like Seattle and London. Not old growth but lots of 100' oaks and tuliptrees. Aspens are just a minor understory tree. So deer can find food, but there are a lot of them.
Deer chaser randomly tunes to different stations which change over time. And it does work here, whether it's on music or not. I previously lived in Colorado, and I expect a semi-arid grassland is different in almost every way.
I put up a fishing line fence and the deer stuck their heads right though it. They also busted the fishing line on numerous occasions, even though I used heavy duty. I was disappointed that it did not work, because I'd always heard that it would.
It’s hard it isolate all the variables to figure out why fishing line works so well in some gardens and not others. I used 8 or 9 horizontal lines and a vertical line every 10 or 12 feet. I’m guessing the results could have been different if I used just 2 or 3 horizontal lines. So the construction of the “fence” is important. There are other factors involved as well. This “fence” isn’t certainly isn’t guaranteed to keep deer out but it worked well for us and there are lots of deer around our garden.
In my experience, fish line is most useful as an outer perimeter, and should be at least 2' from anything you are protecting, and you need some kind of second barrier. Previously I tried 2 layers of fish line but that was hard to maintain, and sometimes deer would get spooked and charge right through it. Now I use it as an outer perimeter about a yard outside a solid 4' fence.; as long as keep them both up even fairly fearless deer stay out. The fish line is more often broken by falling branches than by deer here, as I am in a forest -- but this lets me use trees to hold the fish line, and in one of my gardens I have little grass to mow next to it.
Hang little bells along the lines. Dog and human urine work well as a deterrent also.
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@@ajb.822 I'm skeptical of scent-based deer repellents, I've never had good results with them. Then again I'm in a fairly rainy climate, if the repellent can be washed away by rain, it is of little use as deer also like to come a-chompin' under cover of rain.
how do you cut the grass between the garden and the fence???????????
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We did the 3d fence this year. It worked.
I really wish I had known about this a few years ago. I could have used it at my old farm. I will definitely be using it at my new place.❤
Excellent, good luck!
Deer can see any thing over 20 lb test. The idea is to make them feel the line, and they become uncertain how high they need to jump. Don't flag the line. I did my fruit trees over winter for two years with three lines at 24", 40", and 60", and had no deer tracks in the snow inside. Then I didn't use it and the deer still avoided the trees for a couple of years. Then I put it back up and had no deer. Next year I installed the T-posts only, no line, and got no deer. That has worked as a reminder to the deer now for a few years. I think you can train them, but have to educate the young ones every few years.
How do you mow the grass inside the fence?
Thank you. Direct and to the point....Starting my 1st garden and excited to try this.
how do you keep the rabbits and small creatures out?
What do you do when you have to mow?
Wouldn't work without the horizontal lines. But, yeah, this should work. Surprised the poles don't lean in without a brace. And you can get away with less than 8'. Neat!
Good luck w/ this , I hope you have success w/it.
* No heavily scented bath soap bars hanging nearby for back - up ?
Fantastic view.. totally trying this
I'm so happy to hear that. I'd love to hear your results next year.
Glad it worked for you. My Rotty tore right thru it and let the deer in, lol
Yes, I can see how that could happen. Dogs are rougher and less sensitive than deer and can break the fishing string more easily, depending on their temperament and introduction to the fence.
@@TheUnNamedSeedthat is why animals that are not properly or effectively trained need to be supervised until they are.
Deer=glorified goats! Pretty in the woods but not my garden! My uncle told me two short fences so many feet apart works. I forget the measure and he's long gone. I have heard they won't jump over if they can't see what's on the other side. But I saw a video of one jumping a solid board fence. He hung his or her back legs in the fence. And was rescued. I need a fence around my garden. They stopped down everything but the cherry tomatoes, peppers and egg plants.
Put fences 5 feet apart. Living Traditions Homestead has been using them for several years and they work.
More like huge rats that spread Lyme disease, wreck cars, attack people, destroy gardens.
Yup. Rats with antlers.
18 inches apart for the double fence spacing.
I would like to have seen game camera used for what happened when deer visited. My small blueberry patch has a metal chicken wire fence around it and the deer try to knock it down. I keep adding posts to stop them. So, why wouldn't they do the same thing to this fishing line fence?
1 egg- 1 gallon water mix vigorously sprinkle perimeter they No Like it.
Pretty cool! I don't think that would work for Javelina though. So, I guess it's out for us Arizonans. Granted, maybe I could do a shorter fence and then do this for the upper part of the fence for the deer.
Since I have dogs and the garden is so close to the house I do not have a huge issue with deer. I do have corral panes up which works pretty well but looks ugly. I am just try this.
Great points!!
Very clearly expressed. Thank you.
I am a new subscriber, that’s good idea, thank you for sharing.
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You didn't mention the animal allert spooker motion detector on the post
As someone who doesn't fish, any suggestions for a simple reel to help unspool this line? Or did you just unwind from the spool by hand?
Yes, I was able to unwind the fishing line pretty easily by hand. That should work for you fine if you decide to give it a try. Good luck
My husband is an avid fisherman, when he loads line onto a reel he puts a pencil thru the plastic holder of the line & holds the pencil upright just below the plastic holder. Also, fishing line will get brittle over time - especially as it is exposed to sunshine!
Always heard a double 6 ft fence precluding a single jump without space between for a running leap worked around a garden
But such structures would impede the view
This is what I've done. Rabbit wire on bottom, with plastic twine, in my case, it's what I had, above it. Didn't keep out the nursing doe hanging around - I didn't get it as high as I had in the past, as I was using some 5 ft. T posts already in this area this time. In the past, I'd had 7 ft. posts which of course end up part in ground, with pvc extensions on top my husband made. But this time we didn't do all of that as high/well and the doe seemed to be getting in. So, having a bunch of steel electric fence posts and wire on hand, I added electric wire around the 1st fence about 3 ft. out, and about 2.5 to 3 ft. above the ground. Had some knowledge of the double-fence deterrent for deer. This seemed to work.
@@ajb.822 I don't see why the double fences need to both be high. Wouldn't it work just as well to have lower fences, just too far to jump both at the same time. And it ought to be visible, so they know it is a double jump.
There's lawn between your fence and your garden (3:24). How do you mow it? My solution? An electric fence with a fencer that outputs 5 joules. U-posts at the corners with insulators and white plastic temporary insulated posts in between. Top wire at 4 ft., bottom wire at 6 in. and one more in the middle. That stopped the deer problem cold. I dismantle the fence at the end of the growing season. A word of caution. A 5 joule fencer will deliver a nasty shock to anything that touches it. Turn it off before working in your garden.
Not cheap.
@@teresacahlik6887 Didn't claim it was. What price would you put on a ruined garden?
Clever - but have you watched any of those videos of the poor deer tangled up in webbing and such - super slow death if they don't get discovered and cut free (and very risky for the good Samaritan).
I would be very surprised if they could get get trapped by this setup. Its pretty strong but they should be able to stretch a hole big enough to get free or break the line with enough struggle.
I had to use chicken 2' wire to keep cottontail out of my veggies
Has any deer breached the fence since installation? My neighbor feeds the deer so not only are they attracted near my yard but they are pretty tame.
If dear can see where they're going to land they will jump almost 7 ft in the air over an obstruction
My speculation about this fishing line fence is, they can see where they would land, but they can't clearly see the dimensions and height of the obstruction itself, so they become hesitant to make the jump because they fear they may run into the obstruction in mid-air.
@@TheUnNamedSeed that's certainly possible
This was posted 9 months ago. Wondering if it still keeps the deer out.
This may sound like an idiotic question, but how do you manage harvesting your goodies? Your description mentions the 4 corners, so I am concluding that there is not a gate or any entryway to the garden itself.
When I was editing, I realized I didn’t include any info about the gate, so I tacked a clip onto the very end of the video, you'll see how I enter and exit the garden there.
Why when I tied my fish line it pull the line down in your still up
It would be great if this worked, but what are you do about keeping other critters out? We have ground hogs, raccoons, etc.
We've been lucky not to have issues with those animals. I think it's because our garden is in a large open area and we have hawks and owls around. Also we grew field corn rather than sweet corn. I believe raccoons prefer sweet corn. I don't have any easy cheap solutions for ground hogs and raccoons at the moment.
do you have dogs? dogs are best for deterring ground hogs. we trap a LOT of racoons and possums that come for our chickens. cat food makes great bait. yes we've caught our cat and our neighbor's cat, but they don't get caught twice.
Thank 🐦 you
Great!!! But do you see any birds hurt or killed by the invisible fishing lines???
No birds hurt by the fishing lines. Their eyesight is much keener. I’ve seen small birds momentarily purch on the lines. So they must be able to see it pretty clearly.
Im going to add 2 lines to my already rabbit 3 and half foot fencing give me that 5 foot total!
How do you get in and out of the garden yourself?
Based on this video, I ran out and bought 40 lb line and strung it up around some fruit trees. Now they've broken two of the center lines and, I guess, walked through. The bottom of the fruit trees are ravaged up to about 3.5 ft. I see you have a dog and other repellent (subsonic?) in this video. I'm guessing your constant activity as well as changing up the visuals is what's really doing the trick. Not this line. I've seen deer push their bodies through thick vines to cut through trails in the woods. Why would a little painless, and weaker fishing line slow them down? They can just lean into it or paw at it and do more than 30 lbs of pressure.
same thing happened to me. Deer just ran the fishing line over.
@@bobo3292 As i said on another comment, the deer are doing a good job of forcing the chicken wire fence so they can get at my blueberry plants.
Wow, that's really cool, BUT, I am not sure it will work in places that are dry with no nice grass all around for the voracious deer to eat and the only green is the green within the garden fence.
You may be right about that, there are natural food sources for the deer here.
How do you deter woodchuck and smaller animals?
How are those predator eyes working for ya? I got a couple while deployed but my son never hooked 'em up.
I put those up a few weeks after putting the fence up. We didn’t get any deer damage, so that may have been a contributing factor to our success. They didn’t work for my mom who lives in a suburban neighborhood. I think they’re more effective in rural settings where the deer are not well acclimated human development (and things like flashing lights.)
How do you enter into the enclosed area? If I am to try this fencing method, I need an easy way to get inside.
Check out the very very end of the video and I show the gate. 👍
The word you're looking for is 'Taut' not Taunt" Taut means tight while Taunt means to tease
You’re absolutely right, thanks Cliff.
Champion! But how do you get in and out of your garden?
Go back and watch the very end of the video. When I was editing the video I realized I forgot to add info about the gate and tacked it onto the end.
What about keeping rabbits, ground hogs, and squirrels away? This is my first time trying this out.
We're fortunate to have hawks and owls that keep the rodents away. This "fence" unfortunately won't keep those smaller animals out.
A terrier will.
Maybe two fences, an inner and an outer, one good deer and one for rabbits would work.
The only fence that worked on rabbits is a chicken wire fence 3' tall. Mine was a 4' fence to also keep the golden retriever out. The dummy never figured out he could have easily jumped it like my friend's pit bull did.
I really doesn’t fish, so have no idea what brand to choose! What do you have? Thank you, awesome video
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@@TheUnNamedSeed thank you
2:59 - I think you want a nice, taut line, not a nice, taunt line. Lol😉
Show us the gate please.
Thanks
Brilliant
How do you make the entrance to this garden so humans can get in?
Watch the very end of the video. I added a clip about the gate as an afterthought.
What is the small electronic-looking box at the corner fencepost?
They're red LED blinking lights that are supposed to help keep animals away at night. This may have also helped with the deer. But I did have lots of tender young plants sprouting up for about 3 weeks with only the fishing line fence and no LED lights. There was no damage during this venerable period.
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@@TheUnNamedSeedThanks!
what about deer with antlers getting caught in it .
Aloha. Wait! How does this work? My property is terrorized by a HUGE herd of deer daily (about 150+ deer). Will it really work?!
A herd of 150+ deer? Sounds like you're the test case. If it works for you it will work for anyone. There are more than 100 acres of woods next to my property that are definitely populated with deer and we didn't have any deer damage. Give it a try and let me know :)
Does it work
Seems like a great idea … but I can see deer getting caught in the fence? Stuck?
I don’t think the fishing string is so strong that a deer couldn’t break themself free, if they were to ever get tangled up.
What keeps racoons out of your corn?
Raccoons like our trash but left corn alone. I think they prefer sweet corn, I grew field corn (dent/flint)
Tried it, built it, and completely failed, deer went right through it.
I live in a very dry area of california, deer will do anything to get something green to eat.
The density of the lines makes a difference. I had 8 horizontal lines and a vertical line every 10 feet. Even then this is more of a deterrent than a physical barrier so if they have a compelling drive like thirst and hunger that can’t be easily met elsewhere they can definitely get through it. That’s a good consideration for others. This may be less effective in dry climates with fewer alternative food sources for deer.
didn't work for us either : [ & we're NC. green
So, You didn`t tell us what that little black box on the fence post was!
They're red LED blinking lights that are supposed to help keep animals away at night. This may have also helped with the deer. But I did have lots of tender young plants sprouting up for about 3 weeks with only the fishing line fence and no LED lights. There was no damage during this venerable period.. They can be found on Amazon here: amzn.to/3QCvahF
Thank you! I guess using both would be better than just the fish line.@@TheUnNamedSeed
Deer can easily jump that height of fence.
Fishing line degrades in the sun. Expect to have to replace it yearly.
The Idea is to stop the deer from walking into your Garden. A spooked deer will run through the fishing line. How it works is, a deer won't walk into the lines. as soon as they feel the line they stop. they don't know whats there because they can't see it. People use Pie plates, heavy line. rope all to no avail. use a strong light line that is almost invisible. Watch it stop the deer dead in their tracks ANYWHERE.
A tall electric fence keeps all my critters away
Need to see video of deer in your yard.
I can see myself falling on this and getting cut into sliced ham
Do you have any ideas to keep armadillos out of the vegetable garden
"Taunt" line 🤔 So it taunts the deer? Sorry not sorry, it was too funny. 😂
How will this hold up in a summer of hot sunny weather. UV deteriorating strands and heat causing sagging?
Yes, apparently the word I was looking for is taut 😃 The sun didn’t seem to damage the fishing line is the South Carolina heat, but I don’t know how well it would hold up over multiple seasons.
taut, not tsunt.
I learned that recently from some of my other astute viewers.
@@TheUnNamedSeed you are not alone. I hear this substitution frequently. It's just one letter.
That's good to know. "Taunt" actually sounds correct to my ear, so I may have picked it up from someone else close to me who says it incorrectly. That's my guess. Or I just heard it wrong. @@paineite
Get a dog, pee in your yard, a small light and a pinwheel help too. Pie pans on strings for noise , fake owl for smaller vermin. Good luck 🤞
Does it keep raccoons out?🤔
deer will hop right over that
Results may vary and this is only a sample size of one but somehow we’ve avoided all deer damage in the garden even with a very high deer population in the area. Deer have eaten plants outside of this fence on our property like our young fruit trees. But this method is only a deterrent and certainly not guaranteed to stop deer.
I think I'm going to try it and put it up in the area I plan to Garden in. And put it inside the area in Rows as well.
That way they're already just going to hate that area lol
Not for NJ deer...
It only works if your deer aren't really all that hungry.
I'm sure there's something to that. This method makes entering our garden unpleasant and more difficult. If the deer have other places to feed they'll choose those first. If they're desperate and don't have as many other options they'll try harder to enter our garden. But it's worked for us so far.
Useless for rabbits
And useless for mosquitos too.
Deer have a great fence but porcupine nope!
Deer in my area would just jump it.
8 foot high fence needed
dose not work
There are many variables. Number of horizontal and vertical lines, space between t-posts, the spacing between lines, the strength of the fishing line used, the habits and experience of the deer in your area.. In our case at least it worked. We have lots of deer around. They ate our young fruit trees, Comfrey, and flowers outside of the fence, but nothing in the garden all season.
So the objective of a garden is food procurement, but we font shoot the food that is eating our food? WTH? A lot more protein in a deer than a tomato
I guess I can try again, since last time I did not use the vertical lines. The deer around here were looking at the lines when they were shiny, and then push them with their nose! Now I have one that went to snack on my potted plants in the porch 😐😑😕
Add some tanglefoot to that spiderweb fence and catch yourself some venison supper. 😃
Would love to see video proof, you have deer problems, and that they just dont jump OVER that line. We had to install fence at 12 feet around our garden. The standard fence hieght was a joke. They just jumped over it! 😮
Me too. I setup the trail cam a few days, but it was a lot of work because it had to be disengaged every day and reengaged every night otherwise it would take hundreds of pictures of us in the garden. It would be educational to see exactly how they interact with the fishing line fence.
I know the fence is cheat but I did notice that you had the ultrasonic repellers on your fence posts isn't that maybe the real reason the the deer aren't around ,you kinda accidentally showed it
you could probably tie a bell on each run to spook them as well.
How do you get into the garden itself?
what about an entrance? what do you do for that?
I’m curious if you made some sort of gate so the you can enter the garden without having to crawl through sections of fishing line?
When I was editing the video, I realized I didn’t include the gate, so I included a video clip of the gate at the very end of the video.
The deer I have will jump that fence. It needs to be 6 feet tall at least. I understand what you say about them not knowing how tall it is but in time they will figure it out. I have extended my fence using bamboo and fishing line and it seems to be working.
Yes, probably much safer bet at at least 6 feet
Deer can also get caught up in that crap.