Inside Russian Railways Double-Deck Business Class and Sleeping Car двухэтажный поезд РЖД
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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2021
- Premium Train: № 004M "Caucasus"
From: Moscow Kazansky Railway Station, Russia
To: Kislovodsk Railway Station
Travelling: from Moscow to Ryazan-2
Travel Class: Second Class Kupe Sleeping Car
Car type: Double-deck Sleeping Car
Built by: Tver Carriage Works, Transmashholding
Car No: 14
Berth No: 101
Price of ticket (Moscow - Ryazan): RUB 1,813 (approx. EUR 22)
Travel season: Summer 2021
Train operator: North Caucasus Railway, RZD Russian Railway
Moscow - Rostov: Electric Locomotive ЭП20-049 (Moscow
Railway, Novocherkassk Electric Locomotive Plant NEVZ, 2015)
фирменный двухэтажный поезд: № 004М «Кавказ/двухэтажный состав»
Откуда: Москва Казанский вокзал, Россия
До: Кисловодск
Маршрут: из Москвы в Рязань-2
Вагоны класса: вагон бизнес-класс
Тип вагона: двухэтажных вагон
Строитель: Тверской вагоностроительный завод, Трансмашхолдинг.
Номер вагон: № 14
Место: № 101
Цена билета (Москва - Рязань): 1813 рублей (22 евро).
Туристический сезон: лето 2021 г.
Оператор поезда: ОАО «РЖД», Северо-Кавказская железная дорога СКЖД
Москва - Ростов: Электровоз ЭП20-049 (Моско́вская желе́зная доро́га, Новочеркасский электровозостроительный завод НЭВЗ, 2015 г.)
Train: № 737Ж
From: Voronezh-1 Railway Station
To: Moscow Kazansky Railway Station
Travelling: from Ryazan-2 to Moscow
Travel Class: Business Class Seating Car
Car type: Double-deck Seating Car
Built by: Tver Carriage Works, Transmashholding
Car No: 04
Seat No: 113
Price of ticket (Ryazan - Moscow): RUB 1,687 (approx. EUR 20)
Train operator: South-Eastern Railway, RZD Russian Railway
Voronezh - Moscow: Electric Locomotive ЭП20-027 (Moscow
Railway, Novocherkassk Electric Locomotive Plant , 2013)
состав поезд: № 737Ж «Двухэтажный (сидячий)»
Откуда: вокзал Воронеж-1
До: Москва Казанский вокзал
Маршрут: из Рязани-2 в Москву
Вагоны класса: вагон бизнес-класс
Тип вагона: двухэтажных вагон
Строитель: Тверской вагоностроительный завод
Номер вагон: № 04
Место: № 113
Цена билета (Рязань - Москва): 1687 рублей (20 евро).
Оператор поезда: ОАО «РЖД», Юго-Восточная железная дорога ЮВЖД
Москва - Ростов: Электровоз ЭП20-027 (Моско́вская желе́зная доро́га, НЭВЗ, 2013 г.)
Music:
Pleasant Place by Prigida
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In the last couple of years I've regularly travelled in both the single and double deck carriages on the route from Murmansk to Moscow and back. Trains are bang on the timetable usually, and don't go fast due to extreme weather conditions in Arctic. Compartments are comfortable, clean and you are given all you need; bedding, slippers and dental stuff; snack boxes; newspapers; free tea from samovar any time you want. The food in restaurant car is not very tasty, it's better to take your own or get off at the regular stops and run to nearby shops. Each carriage has an attendant and a cleaner ! So the toilets (and showers) are always well-stocked. Journey time is around 26 hours. I'd listened to advice from Russian friends who had been before and agree with them that if you choose upstairs it's better to be near locomotive becauee itv sways less than at end of train, but on other hand it's noisier. You get a great view from upstairs, but it's very difficult to climb stairs if you aren't in good health though. Staff are polite, frirndly and helpful, as are most passengers, generally there is no wifi -and often phone - signal too unless you are near a conurbation due to vast distances of tundra with nothing except beautiful lakes, rivers and mountains to look at from the windows. If you take this trip, don't be in a hurry, get off and stay in Petrozavodsk at the Fregat hotel right on the shore of Lake Onega, and continue your journey another day. The Karelians are lovely people, as are most Russians I've met!
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I like Russian railroads. Excellent crevice. Food is ok too. One cannot expect better food on train. I’d say, soups are usually OK. Coffee (non instant), teas, snacks. I remember, I traveled to Saint Petersburg on a train and they gave red caviar. (Of course, some folks don’t eat “fish eggs”-but no one requires to eat them). One thing: everything depends on a train-there are many of them and services may vary. Last time I traveled to Saint Petersburg from Moscow on train “Adler-Saint Petersburg” and it wasn’t particularly good. Service was ok. The crew (attendant) very helpful and polite. But the train was old. So, if you want to travel by train pay attention to what train you choose.
в курсе, что сервис по английски не пишется как на русском, лол.
@@german_novotiable нет. Не в курсе. Но ведь всегда есть люди, которые подскажут.
Thank you for picture perfect video. I am glad Russian trains still carry restaurant cars. This is a good place to socialize with other passengers and learn new things.
The restaurant car is first of all an opportunity to spend your time pleasantly on the way :-)
Yeah, but recently Russian Railways announced that most of them will be excluded from our trains soon. They plan to replace them with lunch boxes and vending machines with drinks and snacks.
The Restaurant Cars are often really used, because of high prices and low quality
@@doc7austin If I have to return home from business trips by train, then I always try to take tickets for evening trains to have dinner in the restaurant car. And I've never encountered low quality food there. Maybe I'm just lucky ;-)
@@doc7austin "really" - do you mean "rarely"?
Thanks for uploading ,really you brought Beautiful Russia to my eyes while siting on my comfortable chair.Thanks a million :-)
Thanks Doc. I had planned a lot of Russian train travel but ruined by pandemic and war. So I have to travel vicariously through your channel.
Track gauge doesn’t always mean greater loading gauge. For example in Victoria and South Australia there is “broad gauge” (Irish origin) of 1600mm that still has a rather restrictive loading gauge.
Получилось красивое видео.
Супер!!! Лайк, от меня. 👍👍👍😉
Russia is huge country! I can't imagine how big is it......
Almost 2 United States together
Не велик а велика вообще то
@@user-vh8rk2vf9vэто перевод корявый
Travelling with you is ever very good experience.
In the United States, Amtrak bought its "Superliner" double deck long distance cars because they are charged by the operatijg railways by the number of cars on a train, so reducing number of cars by using double deck saves Amtrak money. Not sure this would apply in Russia.
With regards to A380 comparison: You can't reduce size of the A380, but you can attach fwer cars on a train. Running 14 early empty cars doesn't make much sense UNLESS that train runs empty in one direction but totally full in other direction, or later that day, ruins totally full. It may cost less to run empty train vs the yard works of attaching more cars to the train. In this case, the passageway between cars appears to be added when the cars are coupled, so coupling and uncoupling cars appears to be complex/costly operation.
With regards to suspension: on second deck, you always have more left/right sway because it is amplified siince tyou are further away from bogies.
I never traveled by a train in the US. Always wanted. Usually travel by car.
I like these trains a lot.
Very nice. I love these Russian adventures!
My first travel on a train was when I was like about 14 or 15. We went to Saint Petersburg. The trip was organized by our esthetics teacher (the vocational course that I attended).
Enjoyed it. I wish you could have shown the outside scenery more because I really loved it. Anyways I like your presentation style and I am subscribing it for future train travels in Russia. Thank you . 👍
Thank you for the video, I wanna make a little correction: the single-deck sleeping car usually can host 36 passengers. 32 places we can see on special trains like "Red arrow" or special coaches like: coach with the chief of a train or coaches with a compartment for disable persons.
upps; yes, I got the numbers wrong with 32 and 36
@@doc7austin there are also buffet cars that have 4 coupé compartments (hence 16 pax) and a snack & drink buffet in the other half of the car. But those are pretty rare.
And also RZD Siemens Viaggio sleeping cars have 8 compartments for 32 paxes.
I'm a train and I approve this video! :O :D
28:05 Hey me also love the sounds inside the railway station 😍
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Nice video. Thanks for sharing. Enjoyed watching it. Красота!
У нас в России очень сильно красивая природа приезжаете к нам в Россию пожалуйста
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Great informative upload. Thank you 😀👍👌
Do you know about the BAM? If you had an opportunity would you take a second trip through Siberia instead of Transsib? I think it will be amazing experience because it's one of the most beautiful train routes in Russia.
I am literally dying for a elaborate BAM, Yakutsk, or a Sakhalin travel report😍
Very nice video! ......... Like .......
Greetings!
Another lovely video
In the years before the current COVID misery I was able to take the Moscow-Grozny and the Moscow-Sukhumi, Abkhazia trains and they both could have used the higher capacity stock. They were packed. On the other hand the ride would be pretty bad in the by-levels on the portion from Adler to Sukhumi as the track in Abkhazia isn't in the greatest shape.
Danke
Thank you for a nice video.
By the way ,please we are still waiting for part 3 "Pearl of the Caucasus" .Spasiva :-) :-)
It's right to say "Spasibo" ;-))
@@Siberian_Bear72 thanks for correcting Spasibo"
It looks very clean.
Как тебе такое, Амтрак?😀
I watch your travel afther Russia.and rent all the world.Main in Europe
As always, your videos are superbly presented and keep one's attention to the very end. Tis video is no exception, either. What worries me is that these double-decker trains are packed with steps everywhere and there appears to be no provision for disabled passengers. There may wel be a corner especially for them somewhere on the train, but what if they want to visit the restaurant car? Its seasti ng for diners is up top and if one is travelling long distances this wil be very inconvenient indeed. Fortunately, here in UK we don't have double-decker trains and prpobably never will because of all the low bridges built in Victorian times. Admitedly, the Souther Railway experimented with some odd looking semi- double-decker trains in thye late 40s early 50s but werevtaken out of service within a few years. Thank you again for this video and here's to the next one!
There is a special carriage in the train with a compartment for people with disabilities.
@@serega_v_777 Spasiba! Thank you for this information. It is good to know.
Yes, when booking tickets online in Russia, you can always choose an option with seats for people with disabilities. Such people do not need to go up to the second floors. They have not only special cabins, but also special toilets.
very nice. thank you
Very good I like to dreem travel in this train from Pakistan
I was born in Moscow 😊❤
Nice job!!!!, hope to be take a trip next year ´23
Great video! I really enjoy it when you show the dining car and the menues/meals. These new double decker trains look awesome ! I would prefer a first class room...
I wonder how these well these cars operate in the Russian/ Siberian winters?
Thank you for show us this video...:):):)
Double-deck cars have only electric heating, therefore they are not used on non-electrified lines. Exception: the Moscow-Simferopol train, two diesel locomotives are installed on the non-electrified section, one of which serves as a power plant.
hi! In winter, they are warm, and sometimes it is very hot, Russian trains are adapted for very cold weather, since they are used in Siberia and the Arctic
@@user-lc3ud6km5x Sorry, but it's just not correct. TEP70BS diesel locomotives are able to power-up cars with electric heating and tow double-decker trains on some non-electrified lines. See ruclips.net/video/kwA-ZSw81YQ/видео.html , ruclips.net/video/uRP9ODYMtHA/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/WrsWmXQb8GE/видео.html .
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Wow, Great view, I love to see new places 👍
Great movie 👍 Bravo 👋
And I have a new movie from a walk around the city 😊
Yours sincerely, DJ Janusz from Warsaw Poland ✌️ 🇵🇱✋
Good video, when you record InterCity train Kiev Express from Warsaw to Kiev?
Thank you very much for the video are you from Moscow
I think double-deck sleeping cars will be the future and will have a comeback also in Central Europe (please remember, in the CityNightLine-Trains we already had Schindler-type double-deck-sleeping cars, here). Due to the Fridays-for-Future movement and the new "green" governments in Austria and Germany, after the pandemic night trains will achieve unexpected popularity, and the capacities of the single-deck sleeping cars will then be far away from sufficient to meet the demand.
It would be really easy to just drive more night trains though, instead of a single double-deck one. As opposed to during the day, nighttime european rails aren't as congested. Sure there would be some scale benefit like only needing one driver and one restaurant car + employees, but i can imagine double deck cars are also a lot more expensive to maintain.
Regardless of the comfort / quality of the vehicles I think the comparison with an A380 might not really work as you cannot split an airplane. But operating a double deck sleeper train with just 6 cars instead of 10-12 (single deck) will still have lower operating costs for the same capacity. So RZD could just shorten the trains in off-peak seasons and replace older coaches.
No matter how you'd look at it - the TVZ 61-4465 is an unsuccessful model. The problem is obvious - weight. Carriage's internal volume has grew up for about 60%, whilst its weight only grew up for nine tons (64.8 for 61-4465 vs 55.8 for 61-4462 single deck coupe/sleeper car). Obviously, engineers had to save on something - and they've been cutting off everything: noise isolation (soundproofing), shock absorbers, internal walls thickness, etc... Due to this, the 61-4465 carriages are plagued with parasitic vibrations (esp. on second deck), increased noise (from both external and internal sources) and worse shocks absorption, et cetera.
Not to mention the cabins, which are much less spacious than normal coupes, especially upper beds are uncomfortable.
Personally, I'm trying to avoid riding those carriages whenever possible.
Makes sense, it seems very, very shaky and noisy. Otherwise, the capacity by train would be really attractive.
What's the normal axle load in Russia?
двухэтажные вагоны в россии едут гораздо мягче и плавнее классических. С шумоизоляцией проблем нет
@@Felyxorez 23 or 25 tons for cargo trains, don't know how many for passenger trains
@@Felyxorez approx 17-19 tons max for carriages rated for 160km/h, higher end is what makes them shaky. 25t is for freight but again, it's down to 19 for express container trains.
Honestly it is not really like this and largely depends on track condition. The worst part about this carriages are lack of space for passenger luggage. Like really. It is just not enough space for a big coffins especially if you are sleeping on upper bench and lower bench passengers took all the space under the bench. So where do you put your luggage? In paralel dimension or what? Quantum physics carriage.
I would say, very interesting Russian trains...
And most of them are made in Russia. Including locomotives.
On the train from Ryazan-2 back to Moscow, was it only with regular seats because the trip was so short? Or were there sleeping berths for people going a longer route? I don't know much about the new layout of the double deckers depending on the routes, so I'd love to know more.
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Indian trains with 24 coaches : Hello there
ЭП20 (EP20 stands for Electrical engine, Passenger) was designed in coop with Alstom and Siemens. Before EP20 Russia had no dual-current engines. All previously built engines are either AC or DC. First samples of EP20 had design flaw caused overheating of electrical equipment, so engineers had to tweak the cooling system. That's why the engine has very specific extremely noisy cooling fans.
Только Альстом, без Сименса
Я русская приятной вам поездки на нашем русском поезде 😊❤
mi-aș dori să merg cu tine 😀❤️🌿, Prietene
Я ездила на этих поездах но только я ехала всей семьёй в Карелию это республика американцы мне конечно очень сильно жалко точто Россия не дружить с США но я думаю всё будет хорошо наслаждайтесь нашими уютными поездами ❤
А я русский)
Good train 👍
we need some of those in india here demand is super high and trains have more capacity
How much did it cost for this trip, my friend ? Thanks in advance for an informative reply..... BTW, it´s good video, bro. ! 👍👍👍
He mentioned 22 EUR for the sleeper car and 20 EUR on the way back in the business seating car
@@elibensalamin1503 : Thank you, bro. ! I have intention to visit Moscow in February 2022 .... The price for this trip seems not too expensive .... That ´s good. 😁😁😁
@@elibensalamin1503 неправда. Билет стоит гораздо дороже. Для большинства это недоступная цена. Ездят богатые москвичи.
@@user-lw7xt6zy5g в таком случае, автор видео нас обманул. я лишь привёл цифры, которые были указаны в видео. но на самом деле, 22 евро за билет Москва - Рязань кажется не очень-то и дёшево.
@@elibensalamin1503 The fares are actually designed to discourage using such long-distance trains as 'Moscow - Kislovodsk' on short trips that don't require such comfort (200 km out of 2000). It would have cost half as much to go to Ryazan on a thrice-daily Lastochka regional train. The return fare on the Voronezh train is also far too expensive for that level of comfort - perhaps due to business class seating; both equal a basic (3rd class) fare to St.Petersburg (3x distance).
And generally, the whole route to/from Voronezh on that daytime double-decker train is quite popular as the quickest AND cheapest link of all to that million-strong city.
Thanks - I really enjoyed this introduction to the double decker cars. I think I would defintely prefer to be on the lower deck. Did you mean the lower deck cabins were more expensive than upper deck or you meant lower berths more expensive than upper berths? Although the ride quality is better in the single level cars, as pointed out, for the price these trains seem like excellent value.
Lower Berths are about 50% more expensive than Upper Berths; thats true both for the lower and upper floor cabins
Nice
I'm guessing that video editing programs don't offer white text with a black outline to make it easier to read? I've noticed other videos also just use white text that is so hard to read. Even if a color like yellow was used it would be easier to read most of the time. Please, if you can choose another color for the text, or put a translucent gray background behind the text or anything to make it more readable!
Question about the coach car, you mentioned it has 104 seats but only 48 seats on the lower level and 50 seats on the upper level (98 seats). Where are the other 6 seats, on the middle level?
I don''t agree with your A-380 comparison at all.Just run shorter trains...Otherwise this is an excellent video with good comments!These days Russian trains look very clean and modern...Thank you for that beautiful video!
Very good Nice we hope Russia helpful support Pakistan railwaysi am from Pakistan multan it is good movie infermative
Let me correct some inaccuracies) Standard singe-deck sleeping car (KUPE) has 36 places (9x4), not 32, first class sleeping car - 18 places, 3rd class "platzkart" car - 54 places. But limited series with 32-places sleeping cars was really produced for "Krasnaya strela" and some other famous trains.
Most of russians hate these double-deck cars because they are less comfortable. The main problems are very tight space above the upper berth on the 2nd floor and a lack of a space for luggage. Russians (especially older ones) like to travel with huge bags :)
But this year TVZ announced new version of double-deck car (model 61-4523 while you travelled in a car of previous model 61-4465). They have better suspension and more space above the upper berth. Also they are equipped with lower berths that can be easily transformed into sitting place with comfortable backrest as in the most of single-deck "kupe" cars produced for the last 10-15 years.
You write that older cars were mostly built in 70s and 80s in Ammendorf. Actually I haven't met cars built in 70s for a long time. And most of cars built in 80s are used in "summer trains" or extra trains on peak dates.
One curious fact. Moscow-Ryazan railway has two tracks with left-hand traffic because it was designed and built by English engineers. While other lines in Russia have right-hand traffic. Therefore just before Ryazan (about 5 minutes before arriving from Moscow to Ryazan-2) there is a segment where tracks are swapped.
but in principe not soo bad...
of course a single-level car is more quite and not so crowded...
but, das is...
...nothing is gratis and nothing is Premium with low price...
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27:17 EP20 039 departing sound
03:45 Penza to Penzance anybody?!
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Thank you for a nice video. For what it's worth, I prefer the old GDR made sleeping cars to the modern air-conditioned, cramped cars. The old carriages make the right noises and rock in the right way, and there is more space. Double-deckers are ok for short daytime trips. Having the restaurant upstairs is not good for older people, but Russian Railways food should only be eaten if you are very hungry. Let's hope that the pandemic restrictions end soon and we train freaks can can catch up on lost time.
Кто у вас уроды? Вы сами такой, да?
From about 3:06 you can see there are different series of doubledeck cars. Some have rounded upper deck walls, others are completely square. Does this have to do with different loading gauges?
Square - this is basically a "kupe" with closed rooms, rounded ones - to a greater extent "platzkart" where there are recumbent places but there is no door and one wall (to increase seats)
@@user-xv8um1sl8g не плацкарт, а сидячий… Плацкарта двухэтажного не существует.
Раньше в воронежском даблдеккере не было ресторана, только торговые автоматы...
The wall outlets are identical with German (where these came from) & Korean Standards.
I think the suspension and bogie construction is the same for both types - sadly, the fact that you are higher up ( i.e. further away from the rail) you will travel further in each bounce or sway of the carriage. Basic principle of levers. There's a video ( a few years old) about Finland's double-decker sleepers, and they were said to be very comfortable. Remember, the faster you travel, the more jolting you will experience on any track that's less-than-perfect.
That said, for less than 60 euro, for the entire trip? If it was a paper bag tied to the roof of a loco, it would be value for money!
Do they offer SV class on the services? (Edit) Oh, yes, Car No 5! Thanks
They decided to changed the 2020 version of the double decker to air suspension instead of the spring one currently using probably due to this issues and normal spring is probably more susceptible to bounces and worse ride quality and weight more.
Also the 2020 versions had increase the upper deck space.
Let’s hope it will be mass adopted in the near future. Currently those new double decker are under testing in a Siberian tourist train if I recall
I haven't noticed any difference in swaying between lower and upper level in Russian double-deckers. Same. Their comfort is somewhat equal to North America, may be slightly better. And well behind that of Western Europe.
Nightjet (ÖBB) operates double-deck sleeping cars
@E I I meant double decker trains in general in relation to their stability. It is a whole new level of technology on majority of rail lines in France, Germany...
Hi, this year I will travel with Transiberian. I am interesting if this train has two beds into the room,not 4 beds.Thank you.
2 beds -> this class is called SV; this class is not available on the train 001/002 moscow-vladivostok; but is available on the other train
When will you go to the Crimea by Crimean bridge?
its not allowed for me to travel to Crimea
@@doc7austin Don't fantasize! No one is forbidden to travel to Crimea if you are legally in Russia. Even Ukrainians (especially in summer) go to Crimea and no one bothers them, despite the fact that all the Ukrainian media endlessly shout about the war with Russia.
@@doc7austin Actually you're not, but if you post a video about it, Ukraine will prosecute you and ban entry for a few years. You can explore the Crimean Bridge just for yourself by taking a railbus from Anapa to Kerch, which is invisible in the long-distance reservation system. And enjoy other people's videos.
Поздравляю! Большое спасибо за это видео. Вы восполнили некий пробел, оставшийся в Вашем великолепном сериале про Транссибирскую дорогу: там Вы нигде не ехали на двухэтажных поездах, в частности из Москвы в Петербург. Большое спасибо, что c любовью снимаете фильмы о России и ее железных дорогах.
P.S. В этот раз Вы проехали по всей линии, построенной по английским стандартам (с левосторонним движением), а не только 23 км от Люберец до Казанского вокзала (это обсуждалось в связи с Вашим видео про участок Екатеринбург - Москва). Хорошо бы отразить это в титрах.
Congratulations! Thank you very much for this video. You have filled in something of a gap that was left in your superb series about the Trans-Siberian, for there you didn't take a single double-decker train, particularly on the Moscow to St.Petersburg leg. Thank you very much for your affectionate films about Russia and her railways.
P.S. This time you've travelled on the whole line built to British standards (with left-side traffic), not just the final 23 km part from Lyubertsy to Kazansky Vokzal (discussed in connection with your Ekaterinburg to Moscow part of the Trans-Siberian). It is a good idea to reflect that in the captions.
Russia n train and india n train are different... Looks wise and quality wise... Much better Russian train 🚉..
Great but not the land to visit now.
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Is Russia Operating Their Double - Decker Trains Services From St Petersburg To Vladivostok & St Petersburg To Beijing Route ?
No
Судя по всему, билеты были куплены в первый вагон. Мои соболезнования. Особенно когда поезд поедет на дизеле по неэлектрифицированному пути
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Interesting configuration these double decker sleeper cars. Just a question: As four total strangers could end up sharing one of these four-berth compartments, are they segregated by gender?
There are special carriages for woman’s👍 person can select that, when taking tickets
They are not segregated by default but it is possible to choose woman-only compartment on booking.
Интересно, какой смысл организовывать посадку на липецкий поезд со второй платформы, а не с первой? Чтобы ларьки на второй платформе не теряли выручку? Чтобы народ лез через первый путь по подземному переходу или по мосту? Чтобы всех заебать?
I personally see that type of trains as something in-between second and third class. And tickets for it cost accordingly. Traditional one-level second class cars are more comfortable and have more space for baggage - in some cases this difference is critical.
I'd say that i wouldn't like to use double-decker for more than 12-hours long rides.
I thought you showing viewers the double -deck train not knowing you have become train expert over night criticising this beautiful newly introduce train. If you want more comfort then pay more and go for the premium class, Oh yes, you get what you paid for. Alternatively take A380 and float in the air where no bump ride exist . Mind you some time air plane experience rough ride in the air. Nothing is perfect.
This is good business in Iraq and Iran Syria Lebanon Jordan Egypt Tunas year Algeria African country this is the good the future
i wonder why no one built sleeper trains like Japanese pod hotels
They do build them in Russia now. It juast takes time to refit the rolling stock. Tver factory can olny produce 1200 new cars per year, but tens of thousands of cars must be replaced or retro-fitted.
Раньше я ездил на паравозах и это было лучше! Москва-Семиполатинск, представляете? Красота была, эх годы мои годы...
Так и сейчас ездят паровозы, в Рускеале например
"В карманы, где раньше лежали гандоны, я нынче кладу валидол..."
I think the main problem here might be speed.
It doesn't seem to go much faster than 100 km/h, so even cars can compete with them, not to mention air travel.
And the tracks also seem to be in not the best shape, which brings down the comfort level. On trains in Europe you hardly even notice you're on a train and moving.
With this, no modern train and higher capacity will help, as there is no demand.
Also, the cars seem like they have cut corners in the build quality - they're pretty loud and have bad suspension.
They should have focused on refurbing older cars and fixing the tracks for higher speeds at better comfort.
These double-decked trains have one, but very serious advantage - the tickets are very affordable. Moscow-Kislovodsk at 56 € - that's extremely cheap.
I kept reading the comments and I find that there are many people who are dissatisfied, even though over 95% of those who comment have never used this train, some continue to make comparisons with Western European trains, BUT they forget that Western Europe has a COLONIAL past, England plundered India with about 60 trillion Pounds Sterling, Spain 15% of Spain was built as a result of the exploitation of Gold and Silver mines in Bolivia, France through the CFA collects between 15-25% of the GDP of the countries that use it, America plundered, plundered and exploited the whole planet since 1918 continuously) SO the comparison with Western Europe is childish and a NON Comparison due to these things, let's not forget the fact that Russia was almost completely destroyed as a result of WW2... but there are certain Haters that no matter what you do, they are not satisfied.
What an interesting train. However Doc, the food does not appear to be up to our standards.
It's not snowing yet in Russia? Being November and all
It is. In my Kirov oblast snow falls but then melts. Video is set in summer tho
@@Admin-gm3lc ok thanks
The weather in Russia is very different: in Sochi it is now +20C, in Yakutsk it is already -20 C
@@88Artem oh wow what a difference
Video was filmed in August
Omg I booked this before the flu spread happened
Ich habe Sie aus meinen ABOs geloescht...
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The ride quality of these double-decker cars are quite bad, even by russian standards...
Jealousy huh!
27:31 you write "Russia's South-East" that should say "Russia's South-West" otherwise I did not know Crimea was near China.🤣
Everything is not so simple here, it depends on which side to look from, if you look from Moscow, it will be the southeast, if from somewhere in the north of the Urals, it will be the southwest. In Russia, the direction is always counted from Moscow. (even the arrival of the train is indicated by Moscow time, although there are different time zones in different regions), which is why the south-eastern direction is called.😏
do you ahve a state permission or why can you film free in stations and trains taht are per law military areas in russia ?
Railway stations are considered public place and you can film freely there
Между прочим, в Германии тук-тук нет, там рельсы сварены. Представляете какие мы убогие.
Между прочим на большинстве загруженных магистралей РФ рельсы тоже давно сварные.
@@user-we6xv2xn2p да, но представляете, какие они всё равно убогие. Ну те, что оставляют комментарии, подобно Георгию ;)
@@mistym3579 Просто совсем не в теме люди,а ляпнуть что то надо. Не так давно спорил с жителем незалежной который не верил что в РФ плацкартные вагоны заменяются двухэтажными купейными - не может такого быть и все тут, как это так,без плацкарта с ломаными окнами и текущими на голову баками)))
Я давно не слышу традиционное "тук-тук" в поездах, двигающихся, например, по Транссибу. Во всяком случае, между Омском и Екатеринбургом - точно. Только ровный гул. Вот при съезде на южную ветку в сторону Барнаула начинается "тук-тук". Но не думаю ,что это надолго. Скоро всё заменят. РЖД вообще в этом отношении радует всем, кроме ценовой политики.
Сочувствую вашей убогости. Вам нужно срочно переезжать в Россию.
Те стуки которые вы слышали, это на перегонах станционных и стрелках и в Германии эти сутки там тоже слышны. Кстати, если вы озаботитесь историей создания бесшовных рельс, то узнаете, что по сути Россия является родоначальником этой технологии и в своё время была мировым лидером по строительству бесшовных линий (самые длинные участки). И кстати эти технологии именно из СССР перечила Японияв своё время. Представляете, какие они они убогие ))
due to less population of Russia , they r at loss
What do you mean
Только кто может позволить себе проезд в таком дорогом поезде? Большинство в россии бедные, никуда не выезжают.нищенские з|п и пенсии.это только север [где нефть, газ, металлургия] Москва и Питер. А региональная Россия в отпуск никуда не ездят. Нет на это средств. Сегодня это не доступные транспорт для народа. Как и многое другое. Очень дорого.
Билет на этот поезд стоит 1000 рублей от Москвы до Воронежа.
Это дёшево.
Вы либо поехавшая башкой,либо пишете заказные комменты.
Это поезд москва-кисловодск максимальная стоимость билета 6.000 Рокки герб по путёвкам отдыхать и лечиться на кавказские Минеральные Воды оплата по путёвкам билетам бесплатно
Вы лжёте. ЖД билеты очень доступны. Вы явно здесь с какой-то странной целью все это пишете.
@@postgradsibstud9321 скорее всего это пишут из Украины. У них теперь такая работа-мутить в русскоязычном сегменте интернета.
Excellent video.
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