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The best way you play alongside a mantis is to play like she has no healing then her healing will actually be effective. Take cover, heal out of combat, know where the medikits are and dont overextend, then you are gonna be good and the mantis heal is just gonna be a pleasant extra that just gives you more up time
THANK YOU! Finally someone that knows what they are talking about. I've seen a lot of these "guides" and people don't even bother to check the actual numbers from the official site. A lot of people think Mantis and supports in general are just healing bots, but in this game you have A LOT of damage as strategists and you showed it perfectly.
If it’s consistent flame then you need to heal more. Damage amp is useless on a dead body. That said it’s really hard to feel the healing from Mantis, so some people will flame you even if you managed top healing.
To all DPS and Tanks who peel and stand still to be healed. THANK YOU Literally crushed as a healer the other day, only 2 Elims but I think only one person on my team died. It was busy, but incredible (Luna Snow Main)
I agree with what you probably mean with that around 2:30, but I disagree with the wording. It IS a support, its just less a HEALER, but you are providing a lot of support actually. You have stuns to help close in on kills or peel for enemies that get dived, you can contest off angles, bc no dmg fall off and good dps, you have a dmg buff on multiple ppl constantly, can throw a heal on a diver to buy them some more time or heal ppl in cover so they can get back into the fight quicker. You just cant feed them through damage like some healbot would. Doesnt mean you dont support the team, mantis is just really supporting the dps and the divers more than the point tanks if that makes sense. Supportive damage definitely is a thing any there are a lot more ways to support a team than just healing them. By contesting enemy dps you also prevent a lot of dmg that you then dont have to outheal, they cant just peak for free and you reduce their uptime. Nice guide btw, really helpful
I mean basically what you also explained in the vid. Just saying "dont see her as a support" sounds wrong to me, more like dont see her as a straight up "healer". Def more kind of an off support than a main support, but still very good support not really a dps
the aiming difference in right to left movement is bc this is a 3rd person shooter over right shoulder. this is why on Magik you need to aim at, or the the right of, with her dash to hit
RE: all the aiming comments, yeah you are learning it by rote; aim to the right and often up. But do you also want to have to learn each character model by rote too? If you would like to understand the mechanism behind this so that you don't have to; you are point A, enemy is point B, and the distant wall behind them is point C. Your goal is to intersect point B with projectiles but you are technically aiming straight through them at the wall because your crosshair doesn't register them as an object and clip closer. Benefit to understanding? If someone is up in your face and has a taller character model, this will help you predict how far above their head to aim. Shoot at a groot in range and stare at the wall behind them where your crosshair is and watch the intersect as you move closer.
I'm a dps main and I already got to diamond playing comp for 5 days for a couple hours a day. When I flex I almost go Mantis and I have 88% winrate with her, so yeah....She's perfect if you're a dps main.
Can you show this sleep combo in a real match? I can do it in practice but since different characters stun animation is different I have a hard time doing this combo
@@DailyDoseofPets911 me showing it in match won’t get you experience. That’s where you apply yourself to the character and learn the hitbox for each character
Wait a sec, some clarity needed please. You can put E on MULTIPLE players at the same time? I thought it was just one. Plus, I thought if you put F on yourself, you couldn't simultaneously put E on someone else.
How do I heal more? I currently have like 40 matches and like 25 wins or something. Im only silver 1 but almost gold 3. My average game at the end probably looks like 10-15k damage and 20k heals but the other healer will almost always have like 1.5x or close to double my healing. Is it bc of the dot heals? So like if my other healer is doing good also then they just get the healing first? Idk. Ig it hasnt really mattered that much as my mantis games i have more success than when im forced into a diffwrent role on average. Stats dont tell the full story bc just having big heals on a tank that stood still taking damage for no reason doesnt really mean much if it didnt secure the win same as damage players bragging that they did 30k while dumping into the enemy tanks the entire game not once killing the enemy supps/duelists. Is it normal for mantis to typically have lower healing than say a Dagger or Rocket?
Mantis will always be the lowest healing amount unless you get a ton of value from ulting constantly during big fights due to the ult heal, rocket/cloak/luna/invis have way more sustained heals
he is for damage but it isn't needed to land the first 2 shots. you just have to fire quick enough to hit them in the grace period where the stun wont cancel.
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“Forget them, I done gave you the healing that you need” is my favorite quote regarding support so far.
"I ain't worrying bout u cuh, you do what you gotta do"
The best way you play alongside a mantis is to play like she has no healing then her healing will actually be effective. Take cover, heal out of combat, know where the medikits are and dont overextend, then you are gonna be good and the mantis heal is just gonna be a pleasant extra that just gives you more up time
Honestly, this is how you should ALWAYS play
THANK YOU! Finally someone that knows what they are talking about. I've seen a lot of these "guides" and people don't even bother to check the actual numbers from the official site. A lot of people think Mantis and supports in general are just healing bots, but in this game you have A LOT of damage as strategists and you showed it perfectly.
last time I checked the site numbers aren't super accurate
@@ricericedesu they are. Critical hits aren’t on there and if you time 1s frame you go 20hp/s
Yeah, every time I hear Mantis described as a "high healing support", I wonder what has been smoked, as I want some
Subbed, Mantis / Dagger 2 trick here. People flame me for my low heals on Mantis, but I keep telling them I damage amp the team, as my priority.
If it’s consistent flame then you need to heal more. Damage amp is useless on a dead body. That said it’s really hard to feel the healing from Mantis, so some people will flame you even if you managed top healing.
It’s easy to get 20,000+ heals and 40-50 assists with mantis. If everyone’s complaining about it you should probably heal 😂
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Three headshots to kill somebody for a healer... it's pretty good when you're on point with your aim.
aim head, l shift f, aim head again
To all DPS and Tanks who peel and stand still to be healed. THANK YOU
Literally crushed as a healer the other day, only 2 Elims but I think only one person on my team died. It was busy, but incredible (Luna Snow Main)
You are the low elo guy who calls the role healer and complain about your team. Like a hardstuck bronze healbot from overwatch.
@@Pascalovic average dps instalocker:
@@PurXion_legendary_777 true cuz instalock mantis. So i prevent people who would healbot on mantis.
@@Pascalovic Not sure what you're talking about, haven't played much to complain about my team. It's fun!
@torianwalker5819 some people just angry for no reason.
Now I just need to figure out where every Hero’s head goes when I sleep em
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Appreciate the simple and clean explanation man. currently at d3 and learning several characters to climb so that I can flex
I agree with what you probably mean with that around 2:30, but I disagree with the wording. It IS a support, its just less a HEALER, but you are providing a lot of support actually. You have stuns to help close in on kills or peel for enemies that get dived, you can contest off angles, bc no dmg fall off and good dps, you have a dmg buff on multiple ppl constantly, can throw a heal on a diver to buy them some more time or heal ppl in cover so they can get back into the fight quicker. You just cant feed them through damage like some healbot would. Doesnt mean you dont support the team, mantis is just really supporting the dps and the divers more than the point tanks if that makes sense. Supportive damage definitely is a thing any there are a lot more ways to support a team than just healing them. By contesting enemy dps you also prevent a lot of dmg that you then dont have to outheal, they cant just peak for free and you reduce their uptime. Nice guide btw, really helpful
I mean basically what you also explained in the vid. Just saying "dont see her as a support" sounds wrong to me, more like dont see her as a straight up "healer". Def more kind of an off support than a main support, but still very good support not really a dps
Bro went full ghetto at 8:03... I'm your biggest fan...
Subscribe to ya boi Zooko, cuh!!
I love the little rant at the end there. So much sass. I could practically see Mantis finger snapping while shaking her head looking at the floor.
dope video. i love playing Mantis
Best guide on mantis rn. Ty for the combos!
Ok, change of perspective activated.
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Thx bruh
all love bro.. you earned a sub today
Basically Zenyatta from Overwatch with a bit of Ana tossed in.
the aiming difference in right to left movement is bc this is a 3rd person shooter over right shoulder. this is why on Magik you need to aim at, or the the right of, with her dash to hit
RE: all the aiming comments, yeah you are learning it by rote; aim to the right and often up. But do you also want to have to learn each character model by rote too? If you would like to understand the mechanism behind this so that you don't have to; you are point A, enemy is point B, and the distant wall behind them is point C. Your goal is to intersect point B with projectiles but you are technically aiming straight through them at the wall because your crosshair doesn't register them as an object and clip closer. Benefit to understanding? If someone is up in your face and has a taller character model, this will help you predict how far above their head to aim. Shoot at a groot in range and stare at the wall behind them where your crosshair is and watch the intersect as you move closer.
I'm a dps main and I already got to diamond playing comp for 5 days for a couple hours a day. When I flex I almost go Mantis and I have 88% winrate with her, so yeah....She's perfect if you're a dps main.
Can you make that advanced Mr. Fantastic guide ... that's post to drop day 1, brother
Thank you for this guide!!
awesome video, dude!
Love ur videos 😵💫❤️❤️
Dude! Good stuff. Shut up and take my sub
@@supejc i died laughing at this
Nice vid my fave support. Hey have you considered starting a Discord for the game and your community? Just a thought.
@@Saboteur-6 I do have a discord. Just haven’t promoted it yet
@@Saboteur-6 discord.gg/A7ugF8Xs
Great video 🫡
Can you show this sleep combo in a real match? I can do it in practice but since different characters stun animation is different I have a hard time doing this combo
@@DailyDoseofPets911 me showing it in match won’t get you experience. That’s where you apply yourself to the character and learn the hitbox for each character
Wait a sec, some clarity needed please. You can put E on MULTIPLE players at the same time? I thought it was just one. Plus, I thought if you put F on yourself, you couldn't simultaneously put E on someone else.
Since it consumes life orbs... It makes sense that you can put it on multiple team members one after another and still boost yourself.
Thanks
How do I heal more?
I currently have like 40 matches and like 25 wins or something. Im only silver 1 but almost gold 3.
My average game at the end probably looks like 10-15k damage and 20k heals but the other healer will almost always have like 1.5x or close to double my healing.
Is it bc of the dot heals? So like if my other healer is doing good also then they just get the healing first? Idk. Ig it hasnt really mattered that much as my mantis games i have more success than when im forced into a diffwrent role on average. Stats dont tell the full story bc just having big heals on a tank that stood still taking damage for no reason doesnt really mean much if it didnt secure the win same as damage players bragging that they did 30k while dumping into the enemy tanks the entire game not once killing the enemy supps/duelists.
Is it normal for mantis to typically have lower healing than say a Dagger or Rocket?
Mantis will always be the lowest healing amount unless you get a ton of value from ulting constantly during big fights due to the ult heal, rocket/cloak/luna/invis have way more sustained heals
I am not understanding the kill combo. Is it buff -> attack -> sleep -> attack -> attack?
@@Chaseosa attack buff sleep attack attack attack
Im a little confused about the combo, are you anamation canceling self damage boost into sleep to land the first 2 shots?
he is for damage but it isn't needed to land the first 2 shots. you just have to fire quick enough to hit them in the grace period where the stun wont cancel.
You play keyboard on console? You only get that ping and packet loss on console. Pc shows frame rate
@@beeloblak I’m on pc and my frame rate is show
Dam that's my B. It's very lite blended with wall. Apologies
Are you hitting shift or F first for the combo?
@@DietAfro f for dmg boost into shift
These clickbait titles are funny 😅Mantis is banned in 90% of my Diamond games 😅
Not mine. They typically ban luna , strange, hela and hawkeye
mantis ban rate is 5% you can look it up on stats tracker sites lol
@@wingzofstyle8602 that's good to know I thought so. I feel like luna is banned way more than her
@@xNinjamodx luna is being banned more recently because of her ult exploit which will be fixed soon . Mantis overall is better
Crazy how no one is paying attention to Cloak & Dagger or Loki who give much more of a problem than Mantis...
This guide seems aimed at gold and below players. Anyone above needs to look elsewhere
Ah yes, the most op character in the game. How skillful.
VEEEERY helpful info