Julia Hartley-Brewer's fiery clash with Labour MP over immigration
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Sir Keir Starmer has warned bosses the days of “low pay and cheap labour” must end as he tells them to train up UK workers to end Britain’s “immigration dependency”.
The Labour leader signalled in a speech that he would be willing to accept increased skilled immigration on the path to his vision of ending the “low pay model”.
Addressing the Confederation of British Industry conference, he set out plans to “start investing more in training up workers who are already here”.
Sir Keir vowed to be “pragmatic” about the shortage of workers and not to ignore the need for skilled individuals to come into the country if he forms a Labour government.
TalkTV's Julia Hartley-Brewer questioned shadow Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds over whether the Labour government could be trusted to solve the migrant crisis.
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Do you think a Labour government would solve the migrant crisis?
Is this a joke question? No, no and no! They'd allow millions of males from the RoP in and give them the vote too! Learn to pray East people with these clueless clowns from all parties!
It’s a NO from me 🙈
Labour are saying alll the right things to get voters
No way, Starmer is Trilateral Commission and as such an adherent to the doctrine of Sir Peter Sutherland.
NO Definitely not, we can't trust any of them in labouror or Conservative, we need a change of both parties.
They never talk about the impact immigration has on social cohesion, my hometown has been turned into an immigrant ghetto, I rarely hear English being spoken on the streets, and at least half the people I see on a daily basis aren't English, we have 5 million unemployed we don't need more immigrants, this is about cheap labour and more profits for business, whilst the English slowly lose their ancestral homeland.
He has a very good point, we have in Bradford a lost generation who are fighting for housing and health care.
The government always relocate immigrants to this poor and run down city.
What we get is spin messages and emotional blackmail about being better suited for thier needs.
Just visit the schools and that tells you everything.
The Council is a joke and are buying property at bloated prices in a recession, yet the education and child services are on their knees, crime has seen it labelled the worse City in Europe.
Not fit for purpose.
100% agree sadly!
It's also about changing the demographics of Britain forever
Absolutely correct! I shall be standing again for ReformUK, the only party calling for an immigration moratorium.
Same were I live I was talking to a lady from India she said I've only been in this country for about 8 weeks I can speak Albanian Romanian polish and Bangladeshi already
No NHS no Benefits no more immigration
Spot on. NHS is broken anyway. Too many people, UK citizens included, have zero incentive to work. Benefits shouldn't be to support laziness, but for those who REALLY need it, like the War Veterans, orphans, disabled, homeless.
@@mtgigi NHS has been broken intentionally by the Tories and all those pushing for privatization who are creating a 2 tier society where the richest can get all their needs met while the most disadvantaged can't. Whoever supports that is inhumane and evil. It's not about laziness, there are many reasons why people can't reach a place of paying for private heath care and only someone living in a privileged bubble would say what youve said. And if you followed the news then you'd know that the Tories have tried to take away benefits for the disabled and make people homeless just so that they can save more money to put in to the pockets of the rich who are taking money out of the economy and cutting workers salaries to the lowest since 1970's and second lowest since the 2nd world war while also changing terms and conditions to decrease living standards and erode/ erase workers basic rights. The dystopia we see growing around us now is 100% caused by those with the power, not by people at the bottom. It's a deliberately unfair society designed to keep the disadvantaged disadvantaged and the powerful untouchable and living with unlimited prosperity which most of the time they are not deserving of through merit, to say the least.
No more Muslims!
Julia is such a breath of fresh air. You just can’t argue with common sense without looking like an idiot.
And he certainly did.
If you can't look after your own, don't look after other's. This country has totally lost the plot, if they had one in the first place !.
Never a truer word said .
Thomas ,we did have a plan at onetime but that was when we had a backbone the past and present Governments allowed this to happen because it was under the impression that it doesn't effect them,we need to stand firm,and get those on! benefits who are capable of working,we should look at what skills we have in our own people before we start bringing in low grade workers from abroad who will not enhance our economy,this man is all that's wrong with this country.
We need a Government who will work with the British public and put our welfare first.when we have got our own house in order then help our guests from France in moderation.
@@michaeldavies9533 I totally agree with your comment and i am sure that the vast majority of people in our once great Country also agree.
Totally argee
We are today debating whether our football teams should be playing in a country that has barbaric beliefs etc etc, but apparently we need to take millions of those same people with those same barbaric beliefs into this country, and then let them create mini Qatar's all around GB.
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
Absolutely spot on best comment on here.
Spot on fantastic comment and that should be put to the scum in Westminster
Well done…excellent comment. We are also supporting Ukraine
Who love racism and walk around with S.S Nazi symbols on their helmets when they are in military uniform
@@martinsolomon5500 well said 👏👏
Labour just reacting to reform rising in the polls 🙄
imagine believing knee-bending Marxist Labour
@I'm bonkers
Absolutely, he's just trying to steal Reforms thunder.
You have hit the nail on the head about the Refrom Party rising I do hope so for the sake of us the British public and hope this swamp can be cleared of these bureaucrats who are snakes.
@@tarquin4940 The are gaining a lot of momentum, they will continue to gain more momentum and it will cost Liebour voters, those leaving the Cons won't automatically return to Liebour as Starmer would want them to.
@@tarquin4940 They will gain more than that soon, I think they were eight percent in some polls, not bad for a party that isn't getting any real media coverage and quite a few haven't heard about.
We need those doctors ,engineers,economists,vetinary technicians,rocket scientists,pharmacists,surgeons,I’m surprised they all rely on a dinghy to get here ,but I’m ready to be proven wrong,oh and by the way can we put the word out that we need some competent politicians the ones we’ve got are not fit for purpose
Said it all for me sick of the lot of them with their crap
But the dinghies were thrown together with teaspoons and string! _Geniuses!_
@Tom you can lay the blame for useless degrees at the door of the phoney Labour Party of the rt dishonourable Tony bliar and his education education education.he is solely to blame for the present mess we’re in ,be it brexit ,immigration,devolution,uneducated British people his policies we’re never meant to enhance the U.K. he is a globalist just like all career politicians
@Tom work slaves you mean! Doing jobs that don't have any true meaning in life 😢
The migration hoax, basically the Albanian London gangs are boosting their numbers to run the multi billion pound organised crime.
I've been waiting 3 years for an operation it's a joke.
And it's the normal!
Some of the immigrants could do it. But they are not allowed cutlery in the migrant hotels because they get stabby with the security staff. It's a blanket ban. That's the evil bastards the government have put amongst us.
Hope you get it soon, mate. 👍
Look at all the highly skilled labour coming of the boats
I didn't realise that crossing the Channel in a small boat illegally, entering a country illegally, staying in hotels in said country and not speaking the language all free of charge for years on end constituted a job.
Notice he never answered were they going to live
So, Labours shadow business minister is saying, any immigrant with a wife and two or more children, are net benefits to this country.
On average pay of say £25K to £30K, the taxes they pay goes nowhere near to be classed as a net benefit. If you add in any benefits they receive and children's schooling cost alone they are a financial drain.
A typical labour idiot talking bullshit
Graham you clearly haven’t done any research on this at all. Prior to Brexit the average EU immigrant to the UK over a lifetime provided £78k to the public purse by contrast a UK born citizen nothing.
@@steveb951 Really Luke, break that down for me would you please
@@guyverjay1289 fact mate, go and have a look. Lots of data, lots of reports and it’s very easy to find, the FT or the independent as a start. Leading into the referendum they paid in on a average £2300 more into the exchequer per year than they took out. UK residents during the same period were met zero.
@@graham7176 look it up mate it’s a fact. Seems though you don’t believe on those but I suspect believe Farage and Mogg and the daily Mail. 🤦♂️
Well done Julia! Total hogwash from Starmer today, he's admitting he won't be able to cope anymore than the Tories with what both parties have created with their infighting for power and cushy personal perks
I'm an immigrant and I have paid tax from day one (been here for 15 years) my children were born in the uk. I can't think of something so arrogant and morally wrong as to go to another country and expect the host to foot the bill and not pay back the goodwill shown to you.
Thank you Lorenzo. The biggest problem the UK faces as an advanced economy is that wages have stagnated over 15 years. The consequences are that the taxpayers has to foot the bill for this state of affairs. According to the ONS the UK Government must find and spend £16.5k per person per year to cove all costs . This is for social welfare, housing , health , education, infrastructure etc. A minimum wage worker would contribute £ 48 a week to this set against £ 317 expenditures per person per year present in the UK. This is the bare bones of the problem .
Julia you are spot on.
On the last bit with that labour mp. You should have asked him why aren't those england players kicking up about the shirts they wear made by kids for 1 pound.
Would you trust a party that claims 'Days of low pay and cheaper labour must end' whilst being exposed for paying their own staff less than the minimum wage ?
I would not trust them to walk a dog vote reform or we wont have a country left
And for espousing mass, uncontrolled immigration in the first place? (Thanks T. Blair)
I don't trust either party! 2 cheeks of the same arse! 🤣
Went hospital earlier it was full of well let’s just say none were speaking English
it's depressing
Thats normal every where
None of whom were speaking English, the hospital staff or the people with appointments in the waiting room?
It's a real skill to talk for several minutes and say absolutely nothing.
Show and tell. He's showing us nothing and telling us everything.
just wait till they get in power in 2 years and do absolutely nothing
This is a skill required by any applicant to become a politician by all parties
It’s like talking to a brick wall.
don't you insult the bricks, they are very useful things.
Fanatic open border pro mass immigration zealot , you can see his anti Britishness. Mass immigration = mass labour votes.
The best means of solving the labour crisis is to get all those who are happy to rely on benefits back to work. The vast majority of vacancies are for unskilled jobs that these people do not want to do. The answer is, with a few exceptions, to make unemployment benefits a temporary payment.
Maybe a quick way to allow more unemployed people to enter the work force is to do away with the nonsensical CV requirments , i get that for jobs that require degrees ,high levels of skills ect its neccasary , but for basic low skill positions its not or shouldnt be needed .
Correct...we sometimes discriminate against our own people in semi skilled jobs that probably require 2 weeks induction to be able to do.
Get the ldle fxxxxxxx scrounging benefit bastards bastards back to work and we certainly don't want or need more migration
Couldn't agree more. I've known lots of people over the years who were in their mid-forties and had never had a job, nor were they disabled in any way to prevent them from working. They know how to play the system and somehow get away with it.
Many think they can sign on for a premier league club probably featured in the school second eleven in reality
All we ever hear is about vulnerable people!!! That is so subjective. How do they know who is vulnerable 😡
You don't its a ruse
There must be many UK citizens on social security benefits that have skills that could work in the system.
Absolutely, lazy brits who will not do the jobs that immigrants will do are a huge part of the problem. A social welfare system that allows pick to pick and choose whether it is worth their while going to work vs staying at home is a huge problem. We need to get back to the way the welfare system was pre-1950, back then you were guaranteed to be worse off on welfare than in work.
Most of these low paid jobs are vacated because the employer doesn't pay on time the right amount of wages and bully's people into working more than contracted.
This why I could never vote Labour again!
Most of the jobs are advertised abroad and not advertised in this country!
So you can't say we don't have the skills in this country. When companies are looking for cheap labour
He kept refusing to say how they would house migrants
He does not know has not got a clue along with does not know what a woman is he is a pillock
Build more houses
Invest in Education
Tories who have been in power for 12 years haven't invested enough in either
IB... Labour will do jackshit... How long does it take to build 1 house and we need 1m houses already with a population of 67m and rising . Endof.. Tony cuenca
@@craphead9842 don't blame Labour for not building houses. It's taken 12 years for the Tories to not build any
People around about are getting evicted, migrants moving in there homes
We don’t need Migrant workers, or to be accurate, we need particular people, with specific skills, and even more importantly, we need our own people to get to work. Are we getting used to cheap labour, at the expense of losing our own ability to do work ourselves? That is far more likely.
Was it not labour who opened the boarders??
Indeed they did back in 2000 or there about's, Romania and the like were given the green light by Blair.
Yes it was and what a fxxxxxxx mess it's become
Small businesses put people on 16 hr week contracts so they don't have to Make NI contributions and pay full holiday pay. Then offer more hours and pay them cash in hand so they can still claim benefits for 16hrs.
Yes those clothing sweatshops in east London and Leicester etc gave the seamstress women time off to sign on at the job centre when it was necessary. That's how those criminals undercut prices.
Just proves to me that the Labour Party doesn’t have a clue . Just keep saying what they think people want to hear .😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They would think different if they were housed near them I feel like I'm in a foreign country enough is enough
You want to talk about all the immigrants that's been taken to the hotels in Skegness in the last week
I have completely lost confidence in the government. The net immigration rate in the UK for 2022 is an absolute scourge on our nation. It is a complete betrayal of the British people, our country, and our culture. We need education, training, qualifications, and work place opportunities for indigenous British people, to bring back self-reliance, self worth, and a healthier outlook for our country.
If Shamima Begum came across the channel on one of those dignies , would she be put up in a hotel ? would love to hear an interviewer ask that question, especially the Home Secretary ! would put them on the spot, and would they deport her ? if so, then why doesn't that apply to all illegals ?
👏👏👏👏👍🏼 brilliant comment !!
SImple question; Is it now acceptable to remain on benefits simply on the basis the job you're offered is refused purely on the basis that you don't want to do it? Because the standard mantra I hear from the media and politians is that we need migrants as the British don't want to do certain jobs. Remind again the core platform of receiving benefits?
With so many immigrants sending money home, not spending all their earnings on UK goods and services and with so many also receiving benefits, it would make more economic sense to employ UK citizens.
@@WhyteZone 👍
starmers head must be on a swivel the u-turn he is doing
Sir Keir Leader and Liar of the Labour Party
With you all the way Julia!
It is patently evident, judging by the feelings expressed via social media and news channels akin to this one, that the indigenous people are fed with having to go the the back of the queue in order to allow immigrants priority for services and accommodation that the resident population have/are paid/paying for in their rates and taxes. Bringing in even more immigrants, even those with measurable skills, would simply be rubbing their noses in what has already become an intolerable state of affairs.
Starmer will say enough of what people want to hear to get his foot over the threshold of No 10, but ultimately he'll do what his masters tell him.
So very true Jan, the road to Downing Street is paved with broken promises. All our leaders in the West are but puppets of the UN and corporate elites 👍
Step forward Nigel Farage
There's a shortage of English skilled people willing to work for peanuts that businesses want to pay.
This country has nearly 68 million people we are a small island and sinking faster than the titanic.
Norway, is just over 5 million , Sweden just over 10 million , Denmark just over 5 million , Switzerland just over 8 million this small little island is being invaded make no mistake about it.
I think Labour have done enough damage with unlimited immigration.
business only wanna give these people 16 hours work a week and then They have to claim benefits
Nail on head. It cost £ 16500 per person per year to provide services in the UK . A minimum wage worker paying £48 a week in tax and NI will never repay the costs . With 80 + % of these immigrants being in that bracket. At 16 hours a week it’s an impossibility .
Every member of parliament and House of Lords should be ORDERED by the British people that pay their wages to house immigrants
Don’t vote for torie or labour and our problems are over
That Reynolds geezer is living on a different planet..
Think about how much money he is on... and you begin to understand why he is the way he is.
He can _afford_ to be.
Poppydogz = Geezer that word I crack up laughing I have just learnt its a name used for a guy.
I used it speaking to my friend she just fell about laughing. I like it !
Once bitten twice as shy…
I agree with Julia Hartley Brewer...
Why don’t the put the time and money into our own unemployed, give them the time money and effort. Julia is spot on
I've been saying a similar thing; give all these millions spent on illegal gimmi-grants, to British couples to help with the costs of raising kids, to ensure the next generation of workers are "home-grown".
You can tell he's lying coz he's talking.
He wants to expand the NHS workforce. It employs 1.3 million. How many more are needed?
This MP must be a glutton for punishment, he needs to stop being interviewed by Julia and embarrassing himself.
This fella is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle
Dear God Train Our indigenous people .Sick of this .Immigration stop stop .Not only that, we now have countries within our country who do not join in .This man is so far away from reality its crazy ..
if busnesses want labour from this country then they need to pay more instead of cheap labour from abroad and who said they are proud to be in acountry where people want to come to ? it slike them saying we are a proud multiculural country, ask the genral population....they would get a big surprise
With regards to the work force in the UK: as an indenous British person, I seldom have the opportunity to be treated by an indigenous British person when I need health care. If I need health care, in a situation where I feel vulnerable, I would like to have the choice of having somebody familiar with my own culture to treat me. There's nothing wrong with that! If you want me to be treated by a non-British person, then you need to make sure that the worker speaks clear English, has embraced the British culture, and will treat me according to the British way of treating people!
Labour here we go let them all in God help us all ffs
Philip Newman = I can assure you I'm disgusted with all this illegal immigration the News comes on and I lose my voice shouting obscenity . I have read many peoples comments and for some reason I can't help but laugh ( not at the person) when I see the ending of comment when it says ffs I crack up laughing!
What changed starmer cannot tell you what is a woman.
Glad to see that the people in this comment's column are showing the famous British compassion, generosity and understanding.
God bless them.
Why doesnt everyone migrate everywhere all at once? According to this tool that would just make everywhere better, automatically.
i always say that uk's problem since the end of WW2 has been poor management at the top of Uk businesses they are very short sighted dont like spending money on new equipment and dont like spending on staff training. Now UK are in a position whereby there is a shortage of skilled staff in all sectors. At the same time were employing unskilled workers from EEurope
I thought we are heading for a rise in unemployment? So many of these vacancies will be filled. It's also about time employers trained people for those jobs that are harder to fill. Instead of poaching already trained people from abroad, invest in the people already here!
Employers have had 5 years to sort these problems, and all they can come up with to deal with the issue is more immigration.
If there's a skill shortage why doesn't Kier come up with a plan to train British citizens instead of importing cheap labour which does not provide significant growth in the economy? It's all sound bites to garner votes and the public fall for it hook line and sinker.
What the guy is saying is business as usual under a different name!
What are we paying taxes for an army navy and Air force ,when they are doing nothing to protect our boarders
great question 🤔
Because like the government, the UK armed forces are part of a globalist (rather than nationalist) movement.
Indeed Terence. I live near a military firing range in a rural town which of late has been regularly occupied by military men firing off their machine guns like Billy Big Balls...meanwhile the coast is being invaded unchallenged by illegals in rubber dinghies. Absolutely pathetic.
If these foreigners are so skilled let them get employment as brickies, plumbers etc and get them to build their own houses. Maybe even their own GP's surgeries and schools, been waiting for a Doctor's appointment for weeks and nothing is likely to change at present. Our youth are having to spend thousands in monthly rental payments and will never be able to become home owners until they are at least in their '40's. Crazy situation is an understatement, no matter who is in charge of the country!
Name the reports that show positive financial contributions from immigrants.A UCL report showed completely the opposite .
I thought all GPs were technically private as they have contracts with the NHS, am I wrong?
No you are not wrong, Doctors have always been private and are sub-contracted to work for the NHS, has never been any different, many people don't realise this, but that would also explain why doctor surgeries were closed during the pandemic even though they were asked to stay open, but they are private so can decide what they do within reason !
@@Colin623 Thanks.
Time to get the 🤡s out!!
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“Investment in the NHS” they have record investment year on year and still fail miserably, far too few clinical staff. Also he said about abolishing non-dom status, I assume they have paid back the £6m in donations they got from non dom residents, utterly hypocritical as usual from Labour MPs.
Wouldn't trust anything that labour said. Come to that can't trust the tories either. We need a complete change.
Don't believe a word from any of them, especially liebour.
Well said
what's the point in having people that can maintain and repair robotics when we gave all the manufacturing to china
"British jobs for British people", sounds a bit familiar. LiarPoliticians.
He doesn’t believe anything he says because he’s shacking his head all the way through the interview
Why can't we be like Australia? If we need 500 nurses, then we bring in 500 nurses, why must we host all of the non desireables?
Julia a word in your ear ,we the English don’t give a f,,, about wails
The nhs is a bottomless pit. A constant drain on the resources of this country they should cut the management by 50% and invest it in to frontline staff
He just made excuses for more immigrants. Sombody needs to tell hime we have no hotels left.
If the millions of migrants who have come here over the last 20 years can't fill those jobs, then how tf does it make sense to just bring more?
Vote Reform
Never said where they would be housed. What a surprise.
Only benefits the large multinationals that don’t even pay corporation tax. Loads of low pay jobs in delivery and hospitality. we may just have to pick up our takeaway or pay more for the service, didn’t have this problem 20 years ago
so have we got a labour shortage or are we going to have mass unemployment? both things have been said by labour
This woman should be running the country MPs talk pure rot fact
Please can we stop MP's giving the continuous lazy answer that the NHS needs more money. It gets more money every year, it needs to look at how it spends it! Better purchasing decisions, less management and more care givers is what is required. NOT more diversity officers and 20 quid pencils.
And silly woke rainbow lanyards!!
Desperate people say desperate things, it will never happen under any government so cut the crap.
Why do these MP’s want to defend illegal migrant crossings? Absolutely bloody bizarre.
From cheap immigrant labour to expensive immigrant labour 🤣
84% are on Benefits and the other immigrants only work 16 hours a week
Why do the trade unions who fund labour only take public sector and former nationalised sectors on strike, yet the average private sector worker like in supermarkets have never had a real terms pay increase in 10 years, USDAW are a classic example of a union who just accepts what the businesses throw at them, and b3cause of it their members earn pittance.
The gap between public sector workers and private sector workers pay is massive.
Political discrimination by a Labour movement that is driven by the Islington set who patronise working-class folk by giving to the Liberal middle class public sector workers, kier starmer is no Kier Hardie.
Are not those who kept us fed not entitled to a pay rise ?
No strike at Tesco will ever take place, after reading the story of a patronising statement by that company will give workers an advance on their pay, what a bunch of scrooge s are tesco and its board , and USDAW are silent
labour take care of the middle class government workers only
Have to pay for the migrants.
Eat the bugs!
@@boofuu3145 exactly 💯
.....another party mouthpiece ...only on the train for the gravy, gravy and yet more gravy...
Labour are saying alll the right things to get voters
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so have we got a labour shortage or are we going to have mass unemployment? both things have been said by labour
Shame its all weasel words and bullshit!
Even the dogs in the street would not bote for them
Spot on Julia, these clock work MP's are getting worse!
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will never be mentioned by ANY media outlet.
The more they ignore it the more complicit it makes them
We have enough kebab shops and barbers
They're crying out for deliveroo delivery cyclist!
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