I Became a Scratch Developer for a Day
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- I became a Scratch developer for a day, challenging my friend to see who can make the best Scratch game in one hour!
Thanks @Dorbellprod for featuring in the video!
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subscribe or i will scratch you
time traveller
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Try to invade fnf and make a fnf mod
Try to make a mod
u aint scratching me
i will scratch you with my artistic hands to turn you into an poorly drawn elephant
"I haven't used scratch since middleschool." "I use scratch all the time." "I've never used scratch before." All in one video
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@@ZIMOU2014 (Scratch blocks)
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What will it do?
I've been using scratch for like 5 Years now and let me tell you, You can do WAY more complicated things than you would expect, People have made like 3D Games in scratch.
Raycasting is really cool tho
I'm trying to do that right now
same here, litteraly 5 years too
Yea like that 3d crash bandicoot game. Bæn
Yes, I’m not sure how long I used scratch tbh
I checked and I joined 2 years ago, that was enough for me to see the potential
I think the coolest thing about scratch is that it centralizes everything to one program -- You can draw, code, and publish the game all in the same platform. It's the reason I still do it for fun today, since it's a game making experience without having to worry about syntax errors.
Same. Scratch is so convenient that I can barely use other engines :P
Big facts right here
ayo crystal keeper?
@@Ninjabrogaming- hey there
@@CrystalKeeper7 love your projects man keep it up
Love this contest concept, but I would have made it 3 hours, you guys both did great. Scratch is a lot more capable than most people think.
Dude your art looks so clean! It's crazy that you made it in GIMP, so cool man
ayy thanks!
Yo altier Ik you
GIMP is good bro... so good.
@@dredre6101 yo
i saw you scratch account
With scratch you don't even need a keyboard. It is one of the programming languages of all time.
Morbius
@@tonkbutsmaller8008 movie ever
yeah, scratch is definitely one of the programming languages of all time.
certainly one of the programming launguages ever.
Its morphin time!
I've had a Scratch account for six years. Someone managed to recreate the first stage of Star Fox on Scratch; meanwhile I still can't program a platformer without using a tutorial 💀
Ikr
@@megagoldensword3158 yeah. on scratch, you're either really bad or really good at coding. *there is no inbetween.*
My advice is to just look through documents and ask questions
@@illford i'll take that advice. i'm making a platform rn and for the base code, i used a tutorial from griffpatch, and I'm also adding stuff to the engine myself
Well, you were pretty good on the S2E team!
I program a lot in Scratch just for the challenge. Sure, it's easy to program something like Pong, but trying to make a large game in Scratch (even on the level of mobile games) gets much more difficult with the limited feature set. Programming with restrictions is much more fun than regular programming in my opinion.
When there are restrictions you have to get more creative. I'm an artist, there's a game I played in my early teens called Animal Jam. The game has a sort of art program and you have limited tools and colors. Even though I dont play the game anymore, sometimes I like to hop onto it and draw just because I find the challenge more fun. I've actually made some fairly neat artwork in it.
Woah I want to get to the point where I find programming and animating fun😢❤ I constantly just animate just to keep up my standards. It’s tiring for me. Im so put off by it now. I hope to become a game developer 💖
Its not really programming tho, its closer to visual scripting than programming
@@vasatruhl That's still programming. Maybe you mean it's not really "coding", which I suppose is true.
@@Semudara yeah thats what i meant
People were able to recreate or make their own Touhou games in scratch, and as you know, it has complex movement of bullets and a score system. And recreating it in scratch is still insanely impressive
mmm touhou
I actually still use Scratch since I find the interface a lot easier to work with than misspelling-sensitive typing. Not to mention, you don't have to download anything. Only downside for me is that I have to censor myself a little, since I usually write narratives with a 13+ age rating in mind.
Scratch is a blessing for people like me who are more talented in other creative outlets than just coding games. I'm currently making a Touhou Project fangame, by the way, using Piskel to do the sprites.
Oh my God I read a comment saying that some people have made touhou fangames only to scroll down two comments to see someone saying they're making a touhou fangame, crazy
as an actual scratch programmer, scratch is actually not too awful. I once made a 3d textured ray caster and a minecraft clone with crafting, structures and mobs
@KróliśKoduje and that has everything to do with the programming
Pfp checks out lol
@bluecoolman 280 true. To post anything you need to know the forums and t’s and c’s perfectly to not get an instant ban
@@snelake My issue is the fact it's a browser thing and that to me visual coding feels less natural, like if i know how to program there's no point to switch imo. The only other issue is the fat scratch isn't fast
@@snelake yes , it does, when publishing, toxic people report your thing for no reason or a dumb reason, like you didn’t “F4F” with them, and Scratch Drama is so dumb
The fact that you made Java easier than Python in the scale at the beginning triggers physical pain inside me
depens on which version of each
Same, having started with Java and now primarily using Python, Python is ridiculously accessible.
@@ripreq589 No.. it doesnt. Python is easier regardless
ON GOD BRO, PYTHON IS FOR LITTLE KIDDIES WHO WANT TO GIVE THEIR EPLIETIC GRANDMA A SEIZURE WITH SHITTY LED LIGHTS, JAVA IS FOR ACTUAL CHADS.
How can somone say that python is more complicated than java
Jokes aside, why aren't all PolyMars games made in Scratch? It's so much simpler to code in, and has all the necessary features I think?
I mean scratch is Turing complete
@@gmdrandom6287 didnt you hear the joke dodging your head?
True. Im working on scratch for a few years now, and it has a ton of possibilities
@@Vortexboi11 Especially with Turbo Warp being a thing.
@@Morilix oh turbowarp, oh god turbowarp, its what gives my currently developing game life, especially its package manager.
Lesson learned : You don't need to add too much in something to make it good. Just a unique idea with simplicity is peak perfection.
I use scratch, a lot. I don’t like it for the coding, but I love that you automatically publish it to a community of people who also create games on scratch, and I love the social features. I have had over 200,000 people see my games which definitely wouldn’t be possible without it.
As a nearly 5 year scratch user, you can make lots of complicated stuff on scratch despite both its simplicity and json limit (aka the max you can go before the project doesn’t save). Hell there has been games on the website that are like near console length (not like hours long, but they're pretty lengthy) & even 3D games with the use of its pen extension.
Console length scratch games? Could you please give a few examples?
@@yoruba7807 yeah I'm with you
What's a console length game on Scratch?
@@yoruba7807 They aren't like too big, but they're pretty lengthy. Games like Asher Head Smasher 2, and Chirpy Reverie.
A good example are the Chirpy games.
Honestly I think my least favorite thing about Scratch is how absolutely awful it is at detecting colours. Sometimes it works, sometimes it just doesnt.
Nah, it works fine. It's just REALLY SLOW AT IT.
@@ChuckSploder not it does not work at all
@@amongsussyballs Well then you're not using it correctly
@@ChuckSploder it doesn't work very well. I can confirm I spent 40 minutes
@@Flightkitten It works just fine, you need to use it correctly
if polymars owned every game, he would turn every single one of them into an flappy bird spinoff
as a scratch game dev, it’s a better site than people think. Not only can you make games, the art tools are pretty good and playing other people’s amazing games is pretty fun.
Maybe in future people gonna make like unity in scratch
2:57
Dorbell: "maybe I am the next Griffpatch."
Griffpatch: makes a raycaster
Dorbell:
I make 3D games in scratch and it does have many upsides: once you get used to it its super quick to make stuff, and everythings in one place. Because its so slow you have to be very thoughtful about how you do things too. not the best language by any means but its fun because of the challenge.
Hi BamBozzle
@@maDU59_ ha madu59_
@@bambozzled :D
Scratch isnt even a language
@@vasatruhl Try to make a 3D game on it and we'll see
Finally visiting my home coding platform! Its amazing how good of games you can actually make on this platform if you know what your doing.
bro💀
borderline coding but ok
@@Konungen tap on his profile pic and see his banner 💀
@@Toohard315 lmao
@@albertspeaks4880 hi, professional developer here. It's coding. Don't gatekeep, you're not special.
I swear guys I am in completely optimal and amazing health! I repeat I am being held hosta-
Then how did you submit the comment 🧐
Where are you
Sus
Lmao I love that one guy was making an entire soundtrack while you still didn't have the theme yet lmfao
0:21 Dorbell: bro its 1am (Today at 9:31 AM)
i've been using scratch for almost 1 year (i've been using it for 10 months and 3 weeks) and i can tell, polymars is pretty good to someone new, like, not using "If key pressed" hat blocks and all.
I used scratch for 2 years, and seeing how simple your ideas are, how you use different programms (scratch has it own sprite creator), how you use "when pressed blocks" instead of repeat always when pressed really terrifies my mind
In a good way or in a bad way?
@@sergesolkatt bad ofc
Scratch is simple for some things,but can make certain things like multiplayer extremely complicated
multiplayer in scratch is impossible unless you share 1 device.
@@sulemenk2329 you can use cloud variables
bro why are all the programming youtubers so handsome??? How am I supposed to relate to them when they're literally chad. first jdh and now PolyMars too.
You can make anything in Scratch given enough time. The instruction set is very similar to c. The only issue is scratch can only do about 0.5 million ops/s, which is about 4,000 times slower than you can do in a regular programming environment. This limitation inspires creativity and optimisation which is in my opinion the best part about scratch. I'm currently working on some of the most advanced 3D games on scratch, so I can vouch that the only true limitation is your skill as a programmer.
consider using turbowarp, it's cross-compatible with vanilla scratch, has a compiler instead of an interpreter (allowing it to run up to 20x faster), has interpolation + custom framerates, and lots of addons that vastly improve the scratch experience
Sorta dumb question but does it work on the browser version?
(Also fellow Touhou fan hello)
@@BinglesP i think the browser version of turbowarp is identical to the desktop ver if that's what you're asking
touhou fan detected, friendship established 🤝
I've used Scratch for almost 8 years and some of the things the community has made are insane
"I use Scratch all the time"
*1 second later*
"I need to make an account first"
I remember scratch in middle school, I’d always pull up the soundboards with random ahh memes and blast them out with max volume.
I remember I made a Lego Mining Game when I was in 6th grade where jewels will fall from the cave ceiling and you had to use a front loader to catch the diamonds and avoid the rocks. Scratch is legit. Still proud of that till this day
I’ve been using scrstch for 3+ years yet had no idea that you can restore sprites
same
Same bro
i can only imagine the pain you may have been through
Wait, you can?!
@KróliśKoduje Custom blocks are similar to how writing functions in other coding languages works, if that’s whatcha mean.
Next up, go against Griffpatch, one of the best scratchers of all time
But he already did?
@@Dorbellprod Where?
@@Dorbellprod where?
@@Dorbellprod Where?
@@Dorbellprod Where?
I’m not a scratch game maker but I make animations on the site. Really good stuff all around! Crazy how this was done in an hour lol
Dorbell: *Supposed Scratch Expert*
PolyMars: *Never used Scratch*
Also PolyMars: **Proceeds to make game 10x than Dorbell**
I made a working Empire Total War game and a working Football Manager game in Scratch, and both are so complex that it took multiple years for me to develop them. They're called "Empire Total War in Scratch" and "Football Manager/Football Dynasty 2023". The football manager game even has unique faces for each player!!!
I've been using scratch for a while, and i can confirm there are some really complicated projects
No one:
Literally no one:
Polymars: Makes gravity in Scratch.
It's not a very hard thing to do
@@tristanmisja It is for me lol. I have to look up tutorials to this day because I always forget the formula. It’s the reason I usually make point-and-click games instead of platformers and stuff.
@@fastatccplaythroughs5411 it's literally just add speed it's not that hard lol
@@oledakaajel When you put it that way it doesn’t sound hard. Coding it is different. 💀
@@fastatccplaythroughs5411 It's literally one line of code
Man I really need to learn more with Scratch. I've been on for almost 6 years and I still only make simple, not complicated projects.
the cool thing about scratch, is that you can create templates like scroller, platformer, raycaster, etc and then combine them to create interesting things
1:30 PolyMars' Idea: *flashbacks to 2nd grade Scratch summer camp where every kid basically had to create a game like that :')*
update: PolyMars' other 2 ideas is also giving tremendous elementary-school-kids-created-game energy...
6:48 it was at this moment, he knew, he f'd up
I think that Contamination could be a bit cooler if there was a need to collect the green bacterium. maybe they could be the rare variant, and collecting them could restore your health? or maybe the score could be based on how many green ones you collected? there's definitely a way to justify the existence of the green ones.
and red bacterium that instantly kills you
Scratch is a surprisingly decent platform. It's what got me into programming when I was like 11 or 12, and winning some crazy cool contests using Scratch got me to California and shit. Really good memories.
Wdym by winning contest to California??????? 🤨
@@Toohard315 Long story short there was some digital arts content held by the Boys and Girls club way back, and I won first place with a scratch game I made. Then I got flown to California and got to tour the Sony HQ and the Playstation San Diego Studios. Really cool stuff.
Won again the next year but the funding was basically gone so I got a $50 best buy gift card lol
@@aiden_3c congratulations
@@aiden_3c Cool!
0:20 dorbell:"bro it's 1am" -sent today at 9:31 AM
We have a comp sci class at my school and we used scratch for most of the year. We had one big project of making an escape room and honestly it’s made me LOVE Making games. Taking it again this year and hopefully more in the future c:
Fun fact: you can get banned for literally anything, because the moderation is so soft, that simply mentioning anything like twitter will get you muted.
EDIT: My reply record, thanks.
Can agree about the twitter thing, mentioned it snd got muted for 5 minutes. it was rather twitter or tumblr
yeah, and you can have swear words in your scratch project and still have it up until somebody reports it.
i mean makes sense, since its supposed to be for children
Well they probably shivered at the thought of 9-year-old girls DMing strangers online, getting groomed and then bein[REDACTED]
who can blame them
I nearly got banned for a scary game BECAUSE OF A JUMPSCARE
Dang, why do so many people think that Scratch is simple and easy just because it's got blocks instead of text?
I will admit pretty much all of the videos on my channel are made with Scratch, and they're pretty simple,
but Scratch has way more potential.
Because compared to any other coding thing, it is easy
I agree. my brother made a top-down third person shooter game with ginormous open levels, objectives, moving doors, dynamic enemies to fight, cutscenes, and more. it's called "survival 3" if you want to try it.
@@nybergsgarage i'll look it up :)
@@timerchOfficialyt you won't regret it. his username is "buboguy112". a fun little game for sure.
10:09 OMG INFINITE LOOP!!!!!
It was so funny when he said “it’s scratching time!!” And scratched all over those guys.
I’m actually making a visual novel on scratch right now so this is a pretty cool video!
Nice I might check it out!
@@platinumdiamond7 Same
its been a month, any update?
Trust me, i can confidently say that scratch is an INCREDIBLY powerful game engine. Scratch deserves more recognition.
True,uf it could make .exes I would use it
@@doctorpizza8518 I'm pretty sure you can export stuff from it
polymars said "its scratching time" and scratched all over his friend
I HATE RUclips COMMENT SECTIONS
@@cheesepop7175 🤓
I'm making a platformer, and scratch is VERY capable of some crazy things, but it does take a bit of a while to understand it. Ps: Love the cuphead music
"i think i'll become the next @griffpatch" Someone has to take Griffpatch's place someday...
Next you should try to make a game using Rec Room circuits I would love to see what you come up with
rec room is the sole reason I hate node based programming systems
rec room is a lot worse trust me
I would love to see you try to comprehend some of the real crazy crap on scratch
I started using scratch in the summer before my second grade year. If I was this good when I started I would be griffpatch right now. Nice project :)
As somebody who was on the scratch platform actively back in 2020, this is pretty spot on.
"Contamination" in Scratch, huh? Pretty sure I can get a fungal colony spreading over the screen in a few minutes with interesting behaviors. Then add a toxin that can travel through the fungus and kill it. The player can introduce nutrients and medicines to help it grow and try to protect it. When a patch of fungus lives long enough, it sprouts a mushroom that you can harvest for points. How long can you keep it alive?
I think I could do this in an hour. I'm mostly a C++/C#/JS developer but I know my way around Scratch... I think I can pull it off.
ok do it send the link here
I remember when i tried to make a chess-like and i hit the object limit.
I managed to make a simple point and shoot game and a snake clone tho
I’m a scratch developer myself and it’s so nice that other people see my pain.
hey poly Mars I have the HARDEST challenge for you. You have to make a full game on rec room using the maker pen AND you have to do it inside of Vr. if you do it you will go down as the best game dev in history
Polymars++: doorbelldoorbelldoorbelldoorbelldoorbelldoorbelldoorbelldoorbell
doorbell: it's 1am
3:55 in browsers favorites bar there is stackoverflow (you will probably understand if you are a programmer)
I’ve been on scratch for 4 years and I’ve learnt a lot I made a drift system and I think it’s good
As a scratch coder myself you did excellent!
0:34 I starting using Scratch since I was 8 years old.
So close ages
😊😊😊😊insane!!!
7 - 1 years old
At Age 6.
"It falls with pretty realsitc phyisics I think"
Yes, yes it does.
Bro how did poison paddle win 😭
Like it has good physics, good graphics, and good everything, but contamination stuck to the theme and had MUSIC
Absolute win in my book
0:08 How the hell is python more difficult than java?
That's the joke Buddy
@@arthurmesserschmidt it's not written like a joke so that is out the window.
@@fluxie31not all jokes are written like one
Cool video. I love scratch! You just earned a subscriber.
Whats the song in the background at 2:00 called?
Doorbell: "bro its 1 am"
Discord : "Today at 9:31 AM"
0:19 *spamming "dorbell"* "scratch" "bro it's 1am"
I guess I can say I’m better at scratch then an actual programer
same
10:00 "CutieGirlGamer64"?
What is the song at 4:05?
It's from earthbound
@@andremckenna2007 found it, “Onnet’s Theme” appreciate it man.
I love programming on scratch for one simple thing. A challenge. Scratch is very limited, making simple things be much more complicated. For example, creating just a simple car with movement is pretty difficult as there is no “direct” movement block. That was a bad example but you get what I’m saying. It’s just really fun to make systems by yourself.
being a scratch developer for 4 years I found this video amusing! The first ever ViRaL scratch related video!
I personally think poison paddle is better since having gravity is super hard to do in scratch, let alone having something bounce smoothly.
The other game just had you moving up and down while avoiding things going from one side of the screen to the other which literally anyone can do lol
“I think he’s kidnapped or something”
*Completely ignores*
Such a great friend 👍
The philosophy of Scratch was originally intended as having a high ceiling and a very low floor. Unfortunately, in reality it has a very, very low ceiling and a low floor.
Things that really limit Scratch:
1. Desperately bad/practically-nonexistent file i/o. Literally it only allows manual saving using list export/import through the premade (and generally enormous and hideous) GUI. This makes any sort of auto-save essentially impossible.
2. Very poor ability to make data structures.
3. 200k list limit is awful. Alleviated by Turbowarp.
4. 300 clone limit is also awful, but you shouldn't be using clones for anything performant anyway. Alleviated by turbowarp but of course spamming a zillion clones is still very bad for performance.
5. No ability to stretch or skew a costume. Seriously this would revolutionize textured 3D. Seriously this would improve the performance of textured 3D by like 50 times. Maybe more. It would be so good it would beat flat shaded triangles.
6. READ ONLY STRINGS ARE HOT GARBAGE and change the big O of string write operations from linear to at least O(n). In many cases it's worse. O(n*log(n)) or even O(n^2) are possible. The most naive and also most common implementation of modifying a random character in the middle of a string is O(n^2). Though O(n) by converting to a list is not unheard of and much faster. Still, considering that directly replacing an element of a list is O(1), filling a string into a list one character at a time to change one character in the list before reading it back as a string is very, very bad.
7. Lack of ability to just declare a variable at runtime without calling a function is extremely annoying. Yes, there are workarounds. But all of them suffer in one way or another.
8. Custom functions being void return type is *extremely* annoying. Seriously the amount of times where you're like "Can I just return this int?"
9. Inability to directly call functions between different sprites is extremely annoying and encourages you to either accept race conditions, screen refresh length delays from broadcast and wait, or messing around with global variables and broadcasts so it can delay until execution has finished in another sprite. Intersprite communication is sufficiently bad that it encourages a one sprite programming paradigm.
10. Lack of binary datatype or operators. Almost every language has binary operators. Almost every language except scratch. The disadvantage of not having binary AND, OR, NOT, XOR, etc is that implementing these yourself is very un-performant.
11. Screenspace fencing and default resolution. While this is mitigated by Turbowarp being able to set custom resolutions and HTML5 export in turbowarp allowing automatic scaling with the window, fencing is both very annoying and the way that resolution detection works.
12. No elegant, easy way to pass by reference. The void return type issue would not be quite as bad if you could tell a custom block where to store the result. But the thing is, no pass by reference means no ability to even tell it that.
13. No SWITCHES. Seriously, every project I make I end up being more and more annoyed at the lack of a switch statement.
14. Cloud variables are incredibly limited in a way that makes them very hard to use for meaningful multiplayer except on turbowarp, which does not have secure login.
I love how when PolyMars++ is on screen, Bonetrousle plays because his idea is insane
I just love the person who said "Try scratch JR", I had it in 2nd grade and I regret it.
What the average color of your code tells me about how much you're familiar with scratch:
Purple / no code: "Why though?"
Blue: "You haven't thought this through."
Yellow: "You could probably simplify this. Also I guarantee you there is a race condition somewhere in here."
Green: "This is a text project designed by someone who doesn't know what big O is. Or a super complicated thing like a raytracer."
Orange: "I will never understand what this project does and neither will you 5 seconds after uploading it."
Red: "You curse about the 200k limit every day and your projects have turbowarp links in the description."
Pink: "You curse about void return type every day but turbowarp can't save you, so you've long since taken matters into your own hands. You probably think making your own call stack functionality, memory allocation system within a list, safe partition in memory, threading and process priority, etc for each unit of code to operate in is normal. You spend 95% of your time essentially writing crude operating systems in Scratch and 5% of your time developing applications on top of them."
you made more complicated code on your first hour than i have done in a few years
“I think I might be the next Griffpatch”
Griffpatch: *are you sure about that?*
i like how in the end you are like : "DONT BE A LAST MINUTE SWITCH UP, PLEASE PEOPLE, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Polymars : *discord notification intensifies*
Dorbell : shut the hell up its 1 AM in the morning
“I haven’t used scratch since middle school” “I always use scratch” “ive never used Scratch before” 😂😂 😂
missed the opportunity to call it "Poison Puddle Paddle Protecter" smh
"Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Dorbell Scratch"
"bro it's 1am"
perfection
"He might be kidnapped or something" closes the call and moves on
eventually it all snapped into place and I started learning how to add all the effects, titles, motion text. It was pretty cool to see my