Can you do a "10G set up from beginning to end"? Show us how to set it up on a qnap qts/ synology dsm and on windows. What to do or select on the settings to get the most performance.
I wholeheartedly agree with your comments. If you want to play around with 10Gbe, you can also use a CAT6(e) cable in point to point, meaning from your NAS directly to your PC. (in cross-over-mode, provided your network card in the pc does support auto-MDIX. As you can then use a "regular" straight cable.) You will have to manually set the IP addresses on both ends (as DHCP will not work) but you can then use AJA, Black Magic Speed etc to get a feeling (somewhat) about a 10GBe possibility. Be mindful when you do want to use a 10Gbe expansion card into your NAS, that the slot is at minimum PCIe 3.0 x4 slot for a single port 10Gbe and x8 slot for dual port 10Gbe. Otherwise you will never ever reach saturation. Using a PCIe 2.0(!) x2 slot as exists on many NAS-ses (QNAP TS654B, TS453B, TS453BT3 to name a few), will severely limit the throughput of your 10Gbe connection.
Thank you for this! Please upload more on 10gbe - maybe a beginning-to-end setup tutorial. I very recently set a new ds1621 with no current plans for 10gbe but my knowledge in the subject is tragically lacking.
Ha! It is not the latency that makes copper lose quality/signal after 20 meters!! This goes for Cat 6 and also 6A: The issue is power and electronics. You can get transceivers that CAN do up to 80 meters on Cat 6!!
6:10 How can I make my own customized fibre optical cables? How can I "crimp" my own LC/APC-Adapters on the optical cables? In the past I always bought fibre optical cables which already had the LC/APC plugs attached.
Its ridiculous how long we are stuck with 1GB ethernet, 10GB should have been standard by now. The Microtek switches with the SFP ports are a good route to take, but it seems a silly the rest of the manufactures are not coming up with affordable solutions. Come to think of it, the storage market has been stuck as well for the last years.
Fiber cable is actually competitive with copper. I will normally install fiber if needs exceed CAT6. ALL cabling between buildings is always fiber. The cost is the termination of the fiber. But depending on the spec needed there are now field-installed connectors around $20 each (4 per average "cable"). If you are doing it in a home pre-terminated multi-mode cable is very affordable but has installation code limites.
The explanation was not fully technically correct. Sfp is the transceiver. It's not the optical counterpart of 10gbase-t. In fact there are sfp's that take copper.
Advice needed. Looking for a NAS solution for live video editing. Basically, I'm getting tired of moving all my projects around to accomodate larger client projects. Currently I have a home built AMD based system with about 14TB of internal storage spread out accross several SATA connected SSD's and NVMe drives. The system is workstation grade, though the processor is only on the higher end of prosumer level stopping just short of a true HEDT setup - Ryzen 3950x. I'm currently working from home, but need a large/fast drive solution that can be integrated back into the office later. Since I don't have Thunderbolt, a 10GBE NAS drives have come up as a large format alternative that could later be integrated into the office down the line. I do have a built in 10gig port on my motherboard and I'm currently looking at direct connecting (no switch) a 10gig based QNAP NAS to it. But the idea is not to just transfer data from one system to the other, but to work directly from the NAS unit itself... I've seen videos on this, but still don't understand how it works. Can you help me? Looking at the QNAP TVS 672XT with a combo of 4TB Nas drives and SSD, or the newer TS h9738x - probably upgraded to the 16gig version. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I ultimately need to end up with another 16+ gigs of project storage, considering going raid 0 with it and backing up on seperate blue drives like I've been doing for years. Thanks :)
Would love to see you expand on 10gbe content. Like best 10gbe switches for use at home from basic to enthusiast. Otherwise, loving the content as usual. 👍
I'm confused with the cabling ... I have a Truenas with many SSDs in raid 5 ... I use it for backup and video editing within a small room. I thought it was as easy as getting 2x 10Gb ethernet cards and a good cat 6 cable... but I see a lot of videos where they use DAC or SFP cables and expensive Switches. Can i get away with cheap cards and cheap cables?? Thanks
Some switches do it automatically (or have it set to that by default). Be careful though, don't do this on you main NIC, unless eveything on your network is set this with - it will cause problems when communicating with other devices (and internet access)
asus xg-u2008 10gbe switch, intel x550 dual port 10gbe pcie, avoid the asus asus xg‑c100c heatsink is inadequate and it thermal throttles reduces speed - and of course cat 7 and cat 8 are now available and provide noticeable improvements.
Speaking of high throughput hosing (segue medal 1993), have you looked into 10gbe fanless mini PC? I have a cheap Mele as Git server, wonderful for smol files but won't do video for shit, so I'm ready to go 10gbe.
Can you do a "10G set up from beginning to end"? Show us how to set it up on a qnap qts/ synology dsm and on windows. What to do or select on the settings to get the most performance.
I wholeheartedly agree with your comments.
If you want to play around with 10Gbe, you can also use a CAT6(e) cable in point to point, meaning from your NAS directly to your PC. (in cross-over-mode, provided your network card in the pc does support auto-MDIX. As you can then use a "regular" straight cable.)
You will have to manually set the IP addresses on both ends (as DHCP will not work) but you can then use AJA, Black Magic Speed etc to get a feeling (somewhat) about a 10GBe possibility.
Be mindful when you do want to use a 10Gbe expansion card into your NAS, that the slot is at minimum PCIe 3.0 x4 slot for a single port 10Gbe and x8 slot for dual port 10Gbe.
Otherwise you will never ever reach saturation. Using a PCIe 2.0(!) x2 slot as exists on many NAS-ses (QNAP TS654B, TS453B, TS453BT3 to name a few), will severely limit the throughput of your 10Gbe connection.
If you have a crossover cable you dont need auto mdix. You only need a straight cable.
@@wibra96 You are correct, my wording is incorrect, I will change it to make more clear. Thanks!
SoC = System on a Chip. NOT Software on a Chip
Thank you for this! Please upload more on 10gbe - maybe a beginning-to-end setup tutorial. I very recently set a new ds1621 with no current plans for 10gbe but my knowledge in the subject is tragically lacking.
Ha! It is not the latency that makes copper lose quality/signal after 20 meters!!
This goes for Cat 6 and also 6A: The issue is power and electronics. You can get transceivers that CAN do up to 80 meters on Cat 6!!
Yup, great summary and checklist - thanks!!
Mikrotik is your friend..or a second hand arista 24 port sfp+ switch not too bad
Awesome. Didn't know about the auto-switching. Double checking my checkout cart!
6:10 How can I make my own customized fibre optical cables? How can I "crimp" my own LC/APC-Adapters on the optical cables? In the past I always bought fibre optical cables which already had the LC/APC plugs attached.
Its ridiculous how long we are stuck with 1GB ethernet, 10GB should have been standard by now. The Microtek switches with the SFP ports are a good route to take, but it seems a silly the rest of the manufactures are not coming up with affordable solutions. Come to think of it, the storage market has been stuck as well for the last years.
Fiber cable is actually competitive with copper. I will normally install fiber if needs exceed CAT6. ALL cabling between buildings is always fiber. The cost is the termination of the fiber. But depending on the spec needed there are now field-installed connectors around $20 each (4 per average "cable").
If you are doing it in a home pre-terminated multi-mode cable is very affordable but has installation code limites.
I thought you were going to recommended four (4) different 10GbE NAS RAID units that were capable of providing the 1000Mb throughput?
The explanation was not fully technically correct. Sfp is the transceiver. It's not the optical counterpart of 10gbase-t. In fact there are sfp's that take copper.
Advice needed. Looking for a NAS solution for live video editing. Basically, I'm getting tired of moving all my projects around to accomodate larger client projects. Currently I have a home built AMD based system with about 14TB of internal storage spread out accross several SATA connected SSD's and NVMe drives. The system is workstation grade, though the processor is only on the higher end of prosumer level stopping just short of a true HEDT setup - Ryzen 3950x. I'm currently working from home, but need a large/fast drive solution that can be integrated back into the office later. Since I don't have Thunderbolt, a 10GBE NAS drives have come up as a large format alternative that could later be integrated into the office down the line. I do have a built in 10gig port on my motherboard and I'm currently looking at direct connecting (no switch) a 10gig based QNAP NAS to it. But the idea is not to just transfer data from one system to the other, but to work directly from the NAS unit itself... I've seen videos on this, but still don't understand how it works. Can you help me? Looking at the QNAP TVS 672XT with a combo of 4TB Nas drives and SSD, or the newer TS h9738x - probably upgraded to the 16gig version. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I ultimately need to end up with another 16+ gigs of project storage, considering going raid 0 with it and backing up on seperate blue drives like I've been doing for years. Thanks :)
Would love to see you expand on 10gbe content. Like best 10gbe switches for use at home from basic to enthusiast. Otherwise, loving the content as usual. 👍
MikroTik 4port SFP+ switch is the way to go for basic 10gbe home enthusiasts.
Thanks. I just wish you had not mixed1000M and 10gbit when you talked about NAS and so. I would be beneficial do many with a drawing.
The QNAP TS-332X is the best cost effectiveness NAS that I'm aware of for 10GbE.. the mix of 3x3.5" and 3xM.2, mine would sustain read/writes 1GB/s..
Time to do a cost update?
I'm confused with the cabling ... I have a Truenas with many SSDs in raid 5 ... I use it for backup and video editing within a small room.
I thought it was as easy as getting 2x 10Gb ethernet cards and a good cat 6 cable... but I see a lot of videos where they use DAC or SFP cables and expensive Switches.
Can i get away with cheap cards and cheap cables??
Thanks
why would i need 10gbe? isnt the bottleneck the read and write speed on the hard drive.
More users, and ssd m2 for example can run at speeds that can use 10gb easily.
Hey this is great! I was able to switch on the Jumbo Packets in my PC and my NAS but how would I do that on the QSW-308-IC? great content, Thanks!
Some switches do it automatically (or have it set to that by default). Be careful though, don't do this on you main NIC, unless eveything on your network is set this with - it will cause problems when communicating with other devices (and internet access)
I watch this _after_ I bought 😎
asus xg-u2008 10gbe switch, intel x550 dual port 10gbe pcie, avoid the asus asus xg‑c100c heatsink is inadequate and it thermal throttles reduces speed - and of course cat 7 and cat 8 are now available and provide noticeable improvements.
Bought the Unifi 10GB 8 port aggregation switch for 229 Euro’s.
but you can use only 4 at time
@@jozefgasparovic5859 where does it say that?
@@patricksimons560 in unifi forum but they mention it is also in documentation. I They talk about xg series
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Yep..that might be my favourite sweaty compliment of the month. Thanks man! You..umm..flipping compliment spewing fire hydrant!
Speaking of high throughput hosing (segue medal 1993), have you looked into 10gbe fanless mini PC? I have a cheap Mele as Git server, wonderful for smol files but won't do video for shit, so I'm ready to go 10gbe.
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