REEL ISSUES!!! Shimano Vanford 5000 Surf perch fishing.
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Hook2Cook Family. This channel tries to share the good and the bad of certain products.... here's one that will hopefully help you if you're considering a shimano vanford. This particular one (if you've been following a while, has had it's share of issues. Maybe it's just this one... We'll see. it's now on it's way to the manufacturer to repair.
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sorry you had that experience I've had the vanford 5000 since 2020 amazing reel! good lookin out on the discount for the calicovers!
I’ve owned two of em, I say owned because I left my first one at a spot and it was gone when I went back, bought same setup , again ! That’s how much I love that reel! Sorry you’ve had issues! I’ve landed some big fish on mine
Same thing happened to me about a year ago i was fishing for wels catfish and what felt like 200+lbs fish demolished my 4000 size reel, never expected to hook into something that big. Since then i use penn slammer 5500 every time i go for wels.
I have the saltist MQ I highly recommend it, also have the BG MQ both are very nice and have not failed me … yet
Thanks for the input. Taking a serious look at that reel now… thinking the 3000 size or 4000. Thoughts?
@@Hook2Cook, the BG MQ 4000 has been perfect for the surf. That Saltist MQ does look pretty sweet though.
i have the bg mq 10k and saltist mq 6k and both have served me very well. I also have the vanford 5000 but there is already plenty of gear slop and handle play. Oh well, hopefully no issues arise.
I got the same issues for my second trip out fishing on my Vanford 5000. Handle locked up same as the video. Very smooth reeling with no fish or lure on the line. When there is any load on the reel, the reel becomes noisy and noticeably less smooth and you can feel all the gears. Def does not feel right. Returning the reel as I am writing this.
I have a Vanford 5k and it only had issues once I dunked the reel. So instead of sending it in, I opened it up and found no salt in the reel. I couldn't find a thing wrong with the reel besides the most obvious when I stepped back. There was barely any grease! I cleaned and re-greased (properly, not packed) and haven't had a problem since. And I dunked it at least 3 more times after that. I think some of them didn't get enough grease from the factory. I also only use that reel for striped bass and regularly catch 2-15lb fish by the dozen every trip.
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. That’s very helpful insight. Still waiting on getting this one back from the factory but that makes a lot of sense.
@@Hook2Cook have you gotten it back yet?
@@koastal312 yes, got it back a few weeks ago and sold it.
@@Hook2Cook did they tell you what the problem was? Generally the Stradic FL is considered a reliable reel so the Vanford having issues is kind of surprising.
I have just bought the smaller 2500 size vanford and tbh it felt like it wasn't greased properly out of the box will probably get it serviced before I put much faith in it
I have a vanford 4000, after 2 beach trips. It became very very hard to reeling. I think maybe some inside of the parts were corrosion… finally I used very very large power to have it back to normal work…
I believe micro gears are simply to small, more a gimmick from Shimano, should be more stout, if reel flexed gears might come out of alignment , just my opinion. I do own a Vanford 2000 but use it for trout and very light lures, enjoy it very much.
the micro gears in a shimano spinning reel are nowhere as fine as the ones in their baitcasters but you're right if the body flexes it could wear down the gears much faster which is why the stradic FL should be a better choice.
Its a freshwater reel using it in the Surf can cause it but not necessarily the problem try tightens the retainer nut under spool and make it a habit after you used a freshwater reel in the salt rinse and then spray alot of WD-40 to remove any water remaining
Ahhhh nothing worse then when your gear fails when you are trying to fish!! I have the 4000 and haven’t had that problem yet. My slammer on the other hand has been getting wind knots like crazy lately. It’s so frustrating lol. That kind of stuff shouldn’t happen! Especially when you take care of your gear and rinse it out every trip. Glad the trip worked out for you. You guys ended up doing great with the perch!
Very true! yea, in the end, it came back to life, but yes. it should be much more dependable than that. thanks Steve!
Line over spool
Great video !! You guys got on em !! I was having reel problems the day we went there too !! It’s cursed !!
No way! that's crazy!
I have nine Penn reels from 1965- 1988 they all work fine some I got at garage sales in the bay area for two bucks!
That reel is not submersible so if that happened you likely had saltwater corrosion that clobbered it. I have the 2500 series and found that I can submerge for about 2 seconds and be ok. My son submerged one for a longer time and it had problems.
Shimao options: Ultegra XTD surf spinning and the 50 dollar cheaper Speed master. The 2019 Stradic FL won the 2018 ICAST as best reel. A basic that works well giving you cold forge hagane gears and protection and for around $100 bucks the NASCI. NASCI scores 4.7 out of 5 by most users it is considered a entry level reel but loaded for the price and a cross over fresh to Saltwater reel which would work for the perch and then hitting the lake for Bass . As much as you fish and level of expertise a Stella SW. Heavier tank reel option penn slammer lll 4500 on sale at bass pro shops for only $159.00 $100 off the normal price.
Stradic Fl 2019 won the 2019 ICAST not 18 a misprint
Thanks so much for the suggestions! might spring for the saltist MQ if it's ever available.
@@Hook2Cook A few notes with the XH MQ . Requires a special tool to open the side plate and uses Ferro fluid ( mag oil sealing) . Daiwa wants their reel sent in yearly for service as well but the reel only has a 1 year warranty?
Forgot to mention check out the new 2021 Penn battalion rod. All Fuji component rod with Alconite guides for $100.00 price range
Bummer on the stripped drive on that reel. You may also have a bent stem. I sure know how frustrating reel issues can be. I have been falling in love with the Okuma Nemesis reel, cheap and damn smooth!
It’s just crazy that we’ve used reels 1/20 of the price that have more durability. Gunna look up the okuma. The most attractive thing about this shimano was that it’s a 5000 series that weighs just over 7 ounces. We shall see how it performs when it comes back from Shimano
@@Hook2Cook I had my Penn BGII do the same thing, upon disassembly I did have a slightly bent stem. I have bought 3 Okuma Nemesis from Bi-Mart in Oregon, $39 no tax. Good stuff!
@@Hook2Cook did you get the reel back from shimano yet?
I had issues with the bail on that reel after two trips. Dropped it like a bad habit for a Daiwa BG MQ. No regurts...
Personally I like the Ultegra
I like my vanford, I have two of them it's a fantastic reel, especially if you looking for a very light weight reel, it's the lightest in the market, but it's not the toughest one I agree.
I have 5000xg for hundreds of fish, I got 10 kg GT, dogtooth, etc without any problems. Your oscillation worm gear got issues there
the main issue is it's not really a surf fishing reel. if it stays dry, it's fine and will last a long time. the surf is harsh on any reel. got this one repaired and sold it to someone who will be fishing Jetty's
@@Hook2Cook yes, its tough, and need special reel, i wont use my vanford for surfing, its wet, sandy, what a mess
Which braid line model/number do you use with vanford c5000xg for GT Fishing ?
@@kerempekcabuk local brand pe 1.5. with jigging, 10 kg GT with jig are not as strong as 10 kg GT popping, I really cannot suggest this reel for GT popping, jigging are fine, many other caught larger monster even with 0.8 pe
Same here. Disappointing. My Stratic FL has been solid.
Sorry to see you had issues with the Vanford. I see you sent the reel in, did they tell you what the issue was? Thanks
It's so hard to find the right balances of weight & number of bearings with reels anymore. You either get a nice light weight reel with a low number of bears that can't handle getting wet; or you end up a bunch of ball bearings which makes it a heavy reel with decently sealed bearings. There's not a in between anymore.
Agreed & That’s not even factoring in price also!
2 months in my Vanford 2500 is doing the same thing.
Should have just purchased another fuego. Half the price and my last one lasted almost 2 years before needing any maintenance
My Fuego did like this Vanford after a few weeks. Been fishing my Vanford 4000 for almost a year now, dunked several times in saltwater, never had a problem...still works like new after hosing down every session. X-Protect works on mine
Yessir fish on 🎣 Miss these videos 🤫😜
Good to see you back Rich!
I have that same Vanford C5000 and have not had that issue. Sounds like the gears are grinding? I dunno. But stoked to see you guys slaying it with Daniel! I saw him this past Sunday and he mentioned this video coming out. :)
Dang dude! out of everyone in the comments section, we really need to connect on a trip!
@@Hook2Cook Totes! Sadly my only fishing days are Sundays due to a pretty tight work schedule, but hopefully one of these days the stars will align!
@@iFishSLO OoOf Okay... If a sunday opens up, lets do it
My reel and braid exactly. Sufix Super line 30lb, and the Vanford 5000. Maybe i'm lucky no issues yet.
It was really nice while it lasted. It’s good to hear there are quite a few out there that are still working great
Yo thats nice you make it look easy i be fishing at Malibu and only gotten a 2ft leopard shark.
Vanford the Best Reel♥️🔥
Thanks for the honest review. Merry Christmas
Thanks Merry Christmas to you as well!
That reel is not designed for saltwater fishing and if you use a garden hose to wash it down after a saltwater session it actually pushes the salt into the reel causing oxidation and corrosion and reel failure.
The advertising says
“X-Protect technology and water-channeling construction enhances Vanford’s water resistance and overall durability - an important feature for a reel sure to be found in inshore environments. From ice fishing and drop-shot fishing for smallies in the sweetwater to stalking tailing fish in the flats, the Vanford has no equal. A legend is born.”
Shimano has a 1 year warranty on their reels. I just had my Vanford 5000 repaired after the bail screw came loose from the housing and I lost the line bearing and other small parts as well. They repaired it and I got it back in about 2 weeks or so no charge. My thought is the screw was not secured properly at the factory. I am pretty your reel has a factory defect and I would contact them for repair. Also check your bail and make sure the bail screw is secure which hold sthe line bearing and other small parts.
Exact thing happened to this one! Bale screw popped off! Ordered a new one real quick. These vanfords have been disappointing a lot of people
This video has a clip of the screw coming off the bale on the vanford
@@Hook2Cook So I guess my reel was not the only one with this issue. I will keep checking the screw every now and then to make sure it remains tight. I did notice on the screw, which still remained in the housing after loosing my line bearing, there was some type of lock tite compound on the threads.
ruclips.net/video/wTNRzU6MMCk/видео.html it’s at 3:50 in this video link
@@Hook2Cook My screw was still intact when it happened but the bail came off from its housing. I'm sure it was not torqued enough at the factory. There was some type of loctite residue on the threads.
Great tips on how to use the Carolina rig
Thanks Partner
I’m loving my vanfords for spinning from my boat or from the shore but no way will I use them on a beach! Stradic,nasci,nexave,ax,or penn,daiwa,abu all get sand before the finesse light reel’s
Man for da price of da vanford dats krazy how many issues you’ve been having with it. Hopefully it was just a lemon and shimano can swap out all da parts or give you another one 👍🏽
Seriously right!? Thanks for following along the journey. It has been one thing after another with this particular one.
I use penn spinfisher V I -- in the surf no problems yet .
I feel your pain. Had a reel break on me before right in the middle of a great bite. Luckily I had a backup setup with me. Wish I was out there with you all.
I think your reel needs regular maintenance. May be the line bearing needs cleaning. My Vanford 5000 still ok after catching 11kg and 7kg King. Vanford is a very good reel.
This wasn’t more than 2 months of use. It’s mainly the fact that it’s not made for surf fishing. From the looks of it, you’re not getting your reel wet
Dang dude Staal life or no life.. I hear ya brotha I always keep a spare in the G ride. Very informative video as always cheers my man.
Nah, van stall is overrated. Time to go back to the quantum reliance. Thanks for the love bro
@@Hook2Cook I know right just wait bro let you know when it arrives.
same as mine
i have the same SV 5000 xd, it is a problem with the main shaft assembly part (RD20233)
Wish I could have been there. #yoink great job on a limit.
I got both the VR50 and Vanford 2500 , no issues yet.
very nice.
@@Hook2Cook maybe you got a bad one.
That could be it. A few episodes back, a screw popped off while reeling
I had somewhat the same problem, It wouldn't let me reel.
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Hook2Cook great content like always!…so I get you were using the vanford reel lol but just wondering what fishing pole you were fishing with? Thanks in advance Sal
Hey Sal! It was a custom rod build by hooked up customs. 10’6” salmon steelhead rod
@@Hook2Cook thanks again
I just bought the reel, but I can tell you ocean corrosion does nightmarish shit to reels. I got the BGMQ 4000, twin power FD and SW, you might wanna look into the sphyeros SW 5000 . They’re all really nice. I love the BGMQ for the price, you can’t beat it. If you wanna high roll it go twin power XD an don’t look back
Considering the saltist mq 4000
OMG 😲 I really feel the frustration in him.Because I have been in such situations rarely and it is extremely hard to believe. So terribly wrong.
I seriously was about to buy Shimano vanford,but not anymore.
Recently even a friend of mine had such nasty issues on a Vanford.
I would rather turn to Daiwa Saltiga or
Daiwa Cirtate.
Amen to that! The Daiwa saltist MQ is very promising. Never happened with the shimano nasci 4000. Just got a van staal vr75. Love it so far
@@Hook2Cook What about using a Daiwa 16BG 5000 H reel on a Daiwa Saltiga GX 160g jigging rod? For off-shore light jigging for Tuna? How would you recommend on this ?
@@ahmedthasleem4627 5000 BG is a bit heavy for this application. casting a small lure will be a challenge. it's 22 ounces on the 5000 series. the 3000 would be better because its 10 ounces.
@@Hook2Cook yeah that is really true. I would take your advice as granted. I can easily understand your point.
Now it's 🌧 rainy season in Maldives 🇲🇻 with rough and muddy water, but the sunny 🌞 and calm season is near and I'm now perfecting my jigging gear for the season.
Not sure if you mentioned it but where are you fishing? My father and I would love to go there.
The Vanford is a freshwater reel. I’d stick with a saltwater reel, especially in the surf.
Yes considering the saltist now… haha maybe sell the vanford once it comes back from shimano repair
Its actually not a freshwater reel. Its rated to have double sealed corrosion resistant ball bearings and seals. Including the double rubber seals to prevent sand and debris.
Sucks about the reel bit it looked like it was corroded a bit and you forcing it freed it up. Did you take it apart to look inside, salt build up? Nice fish looked like a good day!😁👍👍🐟
No, Todd, just sent it in. Maybe they’ll give a report as to what happened. We were definitely fortunate that day…. As a matter of fact, this was the day before the bluefin! 😊
Nice video were you fishing at
Shimano vanford 5000 so bad
Within one month usage it starts to make hardness and sounds
I’m not too impressed with the new Vanford’s finish on the spool. The red coloring comes off too easily. I’ve never dropped any of my Vanford and I have braid on all of them.
Kabayan How long is your leader for Carolina rig? Happy fishing 👍🎣
5 ft. 6-8# test
I've heard lots of people have had that issue with the Vanford. My friend said it's a piece of 💩. Wouldn't recommend it at all. And Shimano doesn't really tell you what's wrong...
Stradic is 3x better.
What kind of rod is this!? Super dope !
It’s custom by fishoncustoms! www.fishoncustoms.com
Does it have any flex in the reel foot?
Not the best reel to use in those conditions. They are built as a finesse reel, fresh - inshore… not heavy duty surf application like you have it for.
Is your vanford the salt model? If not it will not hold up, and bearings got salt in it , one drop in the salt will do it... vanford in the fresh water, non better
This is literally Shimano's Marketing:
X-PROTECT
By combining water repellent coating and specially designed, water channeling, labyrinth construction, X Protect provides high-level water resistance without sacrificing light gear and rotor rotation.
X-SHIELD
X-Shield & X-Protect combine to provide extreme water resistance in the harshest conditions.
Waterproof Drag
With the use of rubber gaskets the drag is sealed against intrusion of the elements such as water and dust.
@@Hook2Cook hmmmm... chock it up to China, thats Shimano main distribution..... i would go diawa all the way
quantum reliance FTW
What hook do you like on that Croppie slider
Straight shank size 4 bait holder. There is one link in the description
Your line is not properly distributed to the spool that’s why
Are you joking? It would’ve spooled properly if the reel was functioning correctly.
Time to get rid of the Vanford and purchase the New Daiwa Saltist MQ that Won best of Icast 2021 for Salt Water Spinning Reels. I recently picked up 2 of them and they are the best spinning reels I've ever used for Surf Perch Fishing 🎣🎣🎣
Might have to look into that saltist.
geez! 10.2 oz... not the lightest reel that's for sure
Also: I wonder if you can get it replaced under warranty?
We shall see! Sent it in to Shimano last week.
@Time Child haven't gotten anything back yet,
@@Hook2Cook That's nuts, bro! I'm so sorry, Ed. Truly sucks. I love this reel, but that's a terrible turn-around time already.
Do you fish in Oregon or Washington state by chance
No but maybe one day
How long is your leader for the Carolina rig?
5 foot
Te recomiendo los stradic 4000 sw
¡buena elección! nuestro amigo mario tiene uno y no ha tenido ningun problema y es muy ligero
You bleed out the perch?
Yes. All the fish
That's why I fish penn
I liked the video but that's terrible bro 😭
I'll stick to my Saragosa.
Good idea
Should have bought a Penn
Keep Shimanos outta the surf !
You're right! Any opinion of the diawa saltist MQ?
@@Hook2Cook no firsthand experience but no complaints on Daiwa reels - I like Shimano too but I've learned a very expensive lesson - keep them away from sand and surf .
Been there that stinks
How do ya guys not get line twist fishing those lures in the surf? I use braid to mono leader with a quality swivel and still get the worst line twists. I notice you guys often don’t even use swivels. ?
I’ve lost too many lures this way :/
That’s weird. These lures aren’t meant to spin in the water. The bill and profile prevents that. Not sure what’s going on with your setup. Are they wind knots?
Where's your VR50?
The drag is trash on it.
@@Hook2Cook Gotcha. I use my VR50 for small stuff like BSP. The VSX100 get used for everything else.