She comes off arrogant cause she's built this wall 🧱 based off the cyber bullying and it's sad. Also you can see she's not trying to be defined by the fact that she dated that guy, Give her a break. Great interview.
I agree with you 100%. That's why i wish she ddnt do the interview. Primary thing be self protection and such interviews are there to hear your side of the story qnd just abt you. So if she's not ready to open and it's evident, she's still healing so why do it...All I'm saying is she wasn't ready for this and all the best to her.
I disagree with you. She would have chosen to stay away or make herself a brand she is now. There are so many women that dated big men in various industries and who are divorced, we still don't know them. But she chose not to look back and brand herself. She didn't use that guys name etc to be where she is today. And even if you say that guy everyone has a destiny helper, that guys destiny helper was Macky 2. Quit the jealousy the girl thrives than you.
When U accept an invitation to an interview,U need to be calm enough to answer any type of questions thrown at U by the interviewer to keep the ball rolling.If then,as an interviewee,U draw grenades,knives and pangas at questions that U don't like....the interview is no longer an interview,but a chit-chat!! Kalenga and Elson, keep up the good work guys... keep them coming, we'll be here🙏
I agree. I wonder why someone would accept an invitation to these podcasts if u know u dont wanna talk. giving no or short answers and not explaining. come on, she knew why they brought her here
That still doesn't make it right. We can offer her all the love in the world through an UNDERSTANDING (sympathy or empathy). However, choosing to be on a talk show, or podcast in this case, of this nature means you are choosing to be exposed. She should have accepted to be on the show WHEN SHE WAS READY.
Really! Go Mwizu Healing is coming our way… fwebabi tulibengi & we are very rude… may God heal us! Ba Mwiza Nakazwe 3776 your comment is harsh hence my sarcasm… may God heal you too cause shooting a fellow girl like that iyo! What goes around comes back around. I stand with Mwizu❤
Mwizu came ready to fight, not to converse. Her defence guard was all the way up! A couple of cringe worthy moments here and there but glad you pitched girl. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Idk.. Homegirl shudda stayed home. I wana believe someone struck a code with the crude jokes and she shut down,, or their energy just dint work for her. The minute she started to play with her phone, i knew she was DONE.
I really like how this podcast encourages people to go for Therapy, thanks to Elson for that. Secondly, I believe this podcast would survive even without inviting Guests. I like all the episodes but the one where its just K plus & Elson are my bests.
Her reaction and response to therapy is the same that many of us (Zambians) act. We are yet to reach a place to acknowledge that therapy is there and we need it. Such conversations give us hope... Elson is passionate about Therapy 👌🏿.
Mwizukanji is not defensive because she is still healing... It was a bad situation and i too would not want to talk about it all over again.. she moved on and she doesn't want to bring back the past that almost took her life.. i too would behave like that💙
The part where she was judged by the interviewer that the way she was answering is why she was dumped was not necessary because its not automatic that she has to explain every detail of her life. Its as if someone is trying hard to get some specific information from her and she is clever enough not to go deep about her private life and someone feels bad about it. Otherwise I salute her maturity through out. God bless you Mwizu and keep working hard you owe no one an explanation.
Mwizu came prepared for this interview and she was trying by all means to be careful because the other camp on the blue app was gone mix up this whole interview the girl is tired of being trolled everyday over the same issue let’s move on.
Elson literally has no problem 😌 it’s like he has dealt with a lot of people with mwizus habits Elo she is lucky k plus was trying his best to make her feel special
People who come out rude and defensive are still hurting so they try to put a persona like they are strong but speak in parables too. She's probably still healing❤
This is absolutely true! You could literally tell how bitterly she answered most of the questions and also going around in circles. She's still healing.
Exactly,and she should know that speaking out is one way of healing... pretending to have forgotten about the yo maps issue is not helping her in any way...she needs to spit out pour it out rather
Being someone who's been (is) an interviewer and interviewee, noticed there was a lack of empathy for the guest. The interviewers could have started off the interview by making her feel comfortable and talking about her achievements, work, etc first and then allowed her to flow into the hard topics, but also with extreme empathy. I don't blame her for having her guards up cause the interviewers went straight to discuss her traumatic experiences. And some of the comments were mean eg the comment about her teeth (whether a joke or not, could have been left out and was very unnecessary) Some food for thought for other interviews 😊 But great show guys.
Yeah this is 100% true. And this also just shows that the respect levels are different for certain guests. You can tell how they tuck their tails when there are certain guests on the show.lol.the inconsistency is evident 😂
@@CosmicGem140 Yes!! Lol!! This right here! Definitely noticed the inconsistencies -- And You don't have to tell the guest that you have not heard of her- That literally got me screaming on the inside 😅
Honestly I will say it and say it again, K-Plus and Elson really know how to do their thing💯 Gotta love them @ThatZedPodcast can’t wait for Kidist wnd Yo Maps to come to the show we also hear their stories 😂😂
This interview....i’m almost half way into it and arrrrrrggggh!! This girl is not ready aikona mahn! Let her go and heal first then we can come back here. Anyway let me finish.
Mwizukajji seems interesting but the issue of her ex makes her uneasy because of the backlash she has faced with social media especially zambian bloggers and I understand her. I love your show but this episode is my least favourite. Dear Feature guests, please be free to express yourselves otherwise good job Elson 👏 for those difficult questions and thank K-plus 😊 for being able to read and handle the atmosphere well.
I wish they asked her more about her business acumen, her professional side. There's more to her than her relationship drama. I'm personally over it and she obviously is as well.
Okay, K-Plus is very sensitive and focused while Elso is the total opposite kikikikiki I love how Elso comes out.....Chifunsa what everyone want to know without fear....I love your Podcast Gents....Keep It Up ......
this interview was more of an interrogation I loved how smart she was when you break up with someone why talk about them I was irritated on her behalf I know what it's like you're nolonger together people know but want to keep opening old wounds. doesn't mean if you don't want to talk about it ninshi you haven't healed. she was avoiding cho chise with other camp Incase they watch. why didn't you ask more of her achievements most of interview was about to maps. relationships end and people move on not asking same things mwebantu. I felt bad were she got emotional. I salute kplus for being more empathetic. elson tone down the sarcasm mwe
Love you guys but I feel u brought her to talk about yo maps(mulomo).We don't know her education, career, advertising works we know her for.keep up with the good work.
Of course that's what she was brought here for, what else? If you're a footballer, you'll be interviewed on football, shes famous for this particular part of her life that's why it was focused on. Besides she was defensive about everything, they said "you're making good banks" she said No, they told her shes lucky ati NO..lol then what the hell are they supposed to do?
Elson, your questions sometimes can be cringy sometimes and I feel so uncomfortable for the people being interviewed but your thoughts on mental health have redeemed you.
I wish more people could see it from this perspective .How are you going to be disrespectful and not expect a reaction? Eish they should give her a break
Check the facebook streets already and you will understand why she held back when talking about that relationship. I think you should have also taken interest to know more about her as an individual. Otherwise I love her😍😍
Please bring people who are willing to respond to questions,imagine someone busy dodging questions nah ,Elson is my type of person...BTW she was too defensive
K-plus is such a sport! I love it! Elson is… well,he’s Elson😏 (PS. I heard that ‘kinda’ from Elson after saying Mwizu looks 18 and really good…). I love the dynamic between the both of you, you balance each other out really well. This convo was meh tbh though. Like someone already said, Mwizu really had her guard up and came off very inauthentic as a result. I guess it’s understandable because of all the negativity she’s received on the internet but it makes me wonder, why did she agree to be interviewed, if she wasn’t willing to be vulnerable (even if only to a certain extent) about what made her a social media sensation, in this case, Yo Maps. Even simple questions like “how long were you together”, “did you get pregnant after 3 weeks”, “did he know you had kids”, she kept skirting around them. Like, whether or not Yo Maps said the opposite, we wanted to hear HER truth. Anyway. I hope she heals from all she’s been through because of the end of her relationship with Yo maps. I feel she really needs therapy.
@@bwalyateresachitangala2044 Indeed. She needs to take Break from everything and everyone, she doesn't even have the man's number. And they have a kid together smh
The rudeness and defensiveness felt like as if she was forced into this interview. It ended up being like a cho chise with Elsons agitated side coming out ohhhh boyyyyyy - choose your candidate wisely
This conversation has brought tears to my eyes, especially that part were she intended to take her own life. I can relate to that , hugs to you superwoman😭. I love you
It’s not about healing , the questions about yo maps must so so boring and irritating her by now. There was so much more they could have asked her! She has achieved so much
And talking about it now especially that both of them have moved on is just unfair. They should have asked other things except the breakup with someone who recently got married.
She is known for him in beginning but she's known for more now and kudos to her she can choose what she wants to talk about unless you are Dr and have treated her that you can tell that she's sick and needs healing.
I want to be straight forward like Elson.. This guy doesn't hold back for anybody 😂😂. Our speaker for the men's conference 2023. Our mental health advocate 👏🏾👏🏾. Keep it up king
She is really a strong woman, what she went through was really hell. You can tell she is still hurting and much of the brokenness is from cyber bullying than the relationship. Wishing her healing 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
After elson talked about therapy, mwizu seemed to be calm and emotional. She really needs help. If you come out of relationship in bitterness you will go in another relationship with it. Please if there is any help then someone should do it.
She’s fought so many people online that every question lands like an attack on her rather than people trying to get the full picture of what was really happening off social media, in real time when all that was going on. Otherwise, I wish her well.
@@munalulalukonga9696 yeah I agree that was uncalled for. I get he likes to be funny but he has to read the room. Knowing all the “you’re ugly” comments she’s received online, commenting negatively about her appearance surely isn’t the way to get her to loosen up.
I feel like @ThatZEDPodcast didn't do a good job today. Y'all just focused alot on the previous relationships and nothing much was said about her educational background, what she specializes in, how she got to work for Jelumu, how she juggles motherhood & entrepreneurship etc things that talk about her as a person and not someone's ex, I'm pretty sure she's tired of living in that shadow 🙄🤷🏼♀️ Plus y'all didn't make her feel comfortable with herself it felt like you were interrogating her, opening old wounds that probably haven't healed that's why she was defensive. Please work on that.
K-plus and Elson are a match made in heaven man!! The podcast is interesting with you both on it. And those complaining about Elson should stop this guy is representing the harsh in society.
Mwizukanji came ready for this interview...she knew all these questioned would be thrown at her.you interviewers shud just stop asking her about yomaps there is more to mwizukanji s life.
This should be a sign that you guys now need to up your game around how you carry out your conversations. To be honest,what you focused on asking her in this interview is what any typical Zambian platform would ask.And the moment those answers were not available,the conversation died.Hence it lacked depth .At the end of the day,you have know control over whether someone wants to give you an answer or not 😂 and it shouldn’t bother you cause there’s a lot more things you can talk about..A perfect example is how Joe rogan can talk to someone for over 2 hours without it being awkward and he has been consistent at doing that. Even podcast that were notoriously known for grilling guests.e.g Breakfast Club,have evolved from that style. I’ve been listening to podcasts from as early as 2014 so it was actually great to see you guys do it on this level in Zambia..just an observation
This has been the smartest comment I've read. These guy's really need to up their game. I haven't watched the episode but I believe it was a way to get people talking and increase their numbers. Was there anything worthy to take away from it?
Well shes famous for that particular part of her life, if you're a musician on the podcast obviously music will be talked about, that's what made the individual famous, plus she was not opening up about anything, what were they supposed to do? She was defensive about everything even where it wasn't necessary, they told her shes making money, she said NO, they told her shes lucky to have someone to talk to she said "I'm not lucky"...she countered everything even when it was positive. A podcast is driven by how open and interesting the guest is because you're having conversations it's not scripted so it's not like they have a bunch of well lined up questions.
@@yungking2801 from your response i can tell you’re new to this podcast thing. Your understanding on the dynamics of a podcast is very shallow and I don’t blame you for that. Firstly you should understand that the host is responsible for what direction the conversation takes.We are dealing with human beings here and everyone is different,some people are interesting and some may not be,some people are emotional and some are not.lol.the list is endless..so the success of an episode cannot just depend on the guest being interesting or not…For example there are people like Elon Mask and Kanye West,these people are hard to converse with and may not strike as interesting to certain people because of their thought process but i have watched them on certain podcast and they’ve been hosted for over 3 hours. So learn that interesting is subjective too. And what an individual is famous or infamous for is only a fraction of what goes on in their lives so there’s always something you can talk about. I WONT BE SHOCKED IF THIS GOES OVER YOUR HEAD😂you need to do your research
Worst episode. I learned completely nothing. I often skip episodes of people I don't know or have no interest in but still end up giving the benefit of a doubt just to hear their side of the story as opposed to what we get on social media. Never liked Dumisani Ncube now I do, cool guy. Same thing goes for Chella, Bowman, Mutale Mwanza and the PR Girls. I learned something from them and understood what makes them the way they are. I was hoping the same from this episode but just like the Iris and KB episodes...nothing. I guess I will always know her as Yo Maps ex as she really didn't give reason for us to say otherwise. Maybe K-Plus and Elson didn't make her comfortable enough in the beginning for her to open up , okay no I take that back Maybe K-Plus didn't make her comfortable enough and Elson was a bit on the calm side as compared to how he approached guests "he knew little or nothing about". Damn that's a long comment, I should turn my RUclips channel into one where I critic the show (negatively and positively), among other shows
People hardly knew who Mwizukanji was before 2020. But following a public break-up with her then fiancé, Yo-Maps, she became an instant Facebook celebrity. She opens up about her life here.
She was rude, defensive and busy dodging question she shouldn't have come to the podcast...,........... She's still bitter nd hurting about the fact that Papa oliyo left her
if she gives us answers, we are going to turn them against her. It's good she doesn't want to bring yomaps in the picture. let yomaps come answer the question, because his the one who brought them on media.
I strongly feel she needs 40 days and 40 nights of total dry therapy coz she's broken beyond our imagination. At first I was so irritated but then I understood that her past has made a sarcastic, succinct, blow for blow, high guarded individual in her. I wish her Peace, Love and total Healing. 🙏🏽❤️💯
One thing I like about this program because they interact with there funs thankx guys will keep supporting you…how I wish this show had a subscription fee I would be the first to pay 💰 💰
Bro! There are so many ways of answering questions if you aren’t comfortable with giving out full information. But being defensive and taking every question like an attack just isn’t it. Baby girl is still healing and it shows.
But all in all Mwizu is 💯 lovable n the realest I love how she does not pretend to be someone else but is just her “defensive”#lol but pretty strong self 💪
She comes off arrogant cause she's built this wall 🧱 based off the cyber bullying and it's sad. Also you can see she's not trying to be defined by the fact that she dated that guy, Give her a break. Great interview.
I agree with you 100%. That's why i wish she ddnt do the interview. Primary thing be self protection and such interviews are there to hear your side of the story qnd just abt you. So if she's not ready to open and it's evident, she's still healing so why do it...All I'm saying is she wasn't ready for this and all the best to her.
Being with that guy is what made her who she is!!!!
I disagree with you. She would have chosen to stay away or make herself a brand she is now. There are so many women that dated big men in various industries and who are divorced, we still don't know them. But she chose not to look back and brand herself. She didn't use that guys name etc to be where she is today. And even if you say that guy everyone has a destiny helper, that guys destiny helper was Macky 2. Quit the jealousy the girl thrives than you.
When U accept an invitation to an interview,U need to be calm enough to answer any type of questions thrown at U by the interviewer to keep the ball rolling.If then,as an interviewee,U draw grenades,knives and pangas at questions that U don't like....the interview is no longer an interview,but a chit-chat!! Kalenga and Elson, keep up the good work guys... keep them coming, we'll be here🙏
It's not everything you can respond to
@@luzangomulwanda4478 then why attend an interview??
I agree. I wonder why someone would accept an invitation to these podcasts if u know u dont wanna talk. giving no or short answers and not explaining. come on, she knew why they brought her here
@@kirkokakoma4905 Good question!
@@luzangomulwanda4478 it's about being clever and tactful about how you answer. Noti efi alechita.
Mwizukanji is still healing
Coming out all rude,aggressive and defensive is a way of hiding her pain as a broken person...
Love and light 💡
That still doesn't make it right. We can offer her all the love in the world through an UNDERSTANDING (sympathy or empathy). However, choosing to be on a talk show, or podcast in this case, of this nature means you are choosing to be exposed. She should have accepted to be on the show WHEN SHE WAS READY.
Really! Go Mwizu Healing is coming our way… fwebabi tulibengi & we are very rude… may God heal us! Ba Mwiza Nakazwe 3776 your comment is harsh hence my sarcasm… may God heal you too cause shooting a fellow girl like that iyo! What goes around comes back around. I stand with Mwizu❤
My sentiments exactly. Am sat here wondering why am finding her so off.
Who went to the commentaries before finishing watching the show🤔
Me😂
Me😂, I wanted to see if other people were thinking what am thinking
Mee please
Within 2 secs
Am here, I actually failed to finish watching it
Look at these crazy numbers! This will be your first 100K views. She is powerful and she deserves another interview later.
Mwizu came ready to fight, not to converse. Her defence guard was all the way up! A couple of cringe worthy moments here and there but glad you pitched girl. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Everything she's experienced has forced her to be naturally defensive. I don't blame her.... I've been there
I swear she shouldn’t have even gone on the show
Idk.. Homegirl shudda stayed home. I wana believe someone struck a code with the crude jokes and she shut down,, or their energy just dint work for her. The minute she started to play with her phone, i knew she was DONE.
@@nasec313 correct
The fact that someone has moved on from what broke them .. does not make them emotionless to the thing that broke them. The case of Mwizukanji
I really like how this podcast encourages people to go for Therapy, thanks to Elson for that. Secondly, I believe this podcast would survive even without inviting Guests. I like all the episodes but the one where its just K plus & Elson are my bests.
Pll
Bring out invaka you will enjoy her straight forward answers and clean
I like how respectful K plus is. It helps diffuse the tension in the awkward moments.
Great observation. I have seen that too. He is so well brought up.
I agree too
So true, I like his sympathy...
I HV been watching That zed podcast ,but I don't know bout this particular one ...
Her reaction and response to therapy is the same that many of us (Zambians) act.
We are yet to reach a place to acknowledge that therapy is there and we need it. Such conversations give us hope... Elson is passionate about Therapy 👌🏿.
Mwizukanji is not defensive because she is still healing... It was a bad situation and i too would not want to talk about it all over again.. she moved on and she doesn't want to bring back the past that almost took her life.. i too would behave like that💙
The part where she was judged by the interviewer that the way she was answering is why she was dumped was not necessary because its not automatic that she has to explain every detail of her life. Its as if someone is trying hard to get some specific information from her and she is clever enough not to go deep about her private life and someone feels bad about it. Otherwise I salute her maturity through out. God bless you Mwizu and keep working hard you owe no one an explanation.
I agree, they exhibited bullying in that interview
It was so wrong that was Judgemental
She had a bad attitude, if she wasn't ready to talk about herself, why agree to be interviewed
She was being professionally interviewed there was nothing judgmental about it.
So true, I didn't like it... they were attacking her 🤧
Mwizu is a strong woman. Nuff said! The negativity that came with the "fame" was too much! God bless her ♥
Mwizu came prepared for this interview and she was trying by all means to be careful because the other camp on the blue app was gone mix up this whole interview the girl is tired of being trolled everyday over the same issue let’s move on.
Elson literally has no problem 😌 it’s like he has dealt with a lot of people with mwizus habits Elo she is lucky k plus was trying his best to make her feel special
What are her habits?
He was too aggressive towards someone who has gone through so much publicly..
As an avid listener of this podcast, I've tried so hard to finish this episode. But nah, I'm already so irritated😣
Will wait for the next one😌
You and I must be twins😂😂😂
They simply gave back the energy that she gave them period. So irritating.
Same here. You accepted the invitation and you've seen previous episodes. Answer the questions woman. Ma fast forward fulu but not answering nothing.
I guess we didn't get what we expected to get 🤦🤦🤦
It's taken me 3 days to finish mainly because my OCD won't let me leave something half way
Naine pano… worst podcast… ba interviewee no best
Mwizukanji has broken the record 42k in less than 24 hrs 👏👏👏👏👏👏
People who come out rude and defensive are still hurting so they try to put a persona like they are strong but speak in parables too.
She's probably still healing❤
This is absolutely true! You could literally tell how bitterly she answered most of the questions and also going around in circles.
She's still healing.
Shes still healing
Exactly,and she should know that speaking out is one way of healing... pretending to have forgotten about the yo maps issue is not helping her in any way...she needs to spit out pour it out rather
I conquer with you.
Its clear she has not moved on.
Being someone who's been (is) an interviewer and interviewee, noticed there was a lack of empathy for the guest. The interviewers could have started off the interview by making her feel comfortable and talking about her achievements, work, etc first and then allowed her to flow into the hard topics, but also with extreme empathy. I don't blame her for having her guards up cause the interviewers went straight to discuss her traumatic experiences. And some of the comments were mean eg the comment about her teeth (whether a joke or not, could have been left out and was very unnecessary) Some food for thought for other interviews 😊 But great show guys.
Yeah this is 100% true. And this also just shows that the respect levels are different for certain guests. You can tell how they tuck their tails when there are certain guests on the show.lol.the inconsistency is evident 😂
@@CosmicGem140 Yes!! Lol!! This right here! Definitely noticed the inconsistencies -- And You don't have to tell the guest that you have not heard of her- That literally got me screaming on the inside 😅
I think she could have conducted herself better. If you noticed she started bashing others for looks..beard, funny teeth?
@@CosmicGem140 you are spot on. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
Very true
I hope she can listen to herself with reflection. Such a brilliant girl broken by society so I understand why she had her guard high up.
Honestly I will say it and say it again, K-Plus and Elson really know how to do their thing💯 Gotta love them @ThatZedPodcast can’t wait for Kidist wnd Yo Maps to come to the show we also hear their stories 😂😂
This interview....i’m almost half way into it and arrrrrrggggh!! This girl is not ready aikona mahn! Let her go and heal first then we can come back here. Anyway let me finish.
Very true. She needs mental health attention
True
Mwizukajji seems interesting but the issue of her ex makes her uneasy because of the backlash she has faced with social media especially zambian bloggers and I understand her. I love your show but this episode is my least favourite. Dear Feature guests, please be free to express yourselves otherwise good job Elson 👏 for those difficult questions and thank K-plus 😊 for being able to read and handle the atmosphere well.
I totally agree with every word you said 👌
I wish they asked her more about her business acumen, her professional side. There's more to her than her relationship drama. I'm personally over it and she obviously is as well.
@@pezopriscachingole7922 Exactly.
I totally agree with you
Okay, K-Plus is very sensitive and focused while Elso is the total opposite kikikikiki I love how Elso comes out.....Chifunsa what everyone want to know without fear....I love your Podcast Gents....Keep It Up
......
They are the same they are just playing good cop bad cop
Ikr!! I just think Elso was kinda harsh
Elson was unnecessarily harsh
Bring Kidist to the interview she will spill the bins
🤣🤣🤣 Agreed.
It's what am also waiting for 😂😂😂😂
this interview was more of an interrogation I loved how smart she was when you break up with someone why talk about them I was irritated on her behalf I know what it's like you're nolonger together people know but want to keep opening old wounds. doesn't mean if you don't want to talk about it ninshi you haven't healed. she was avoiding cho chise with other camp Incase they watch. why didn't you ask more of her achievements most of interview was about to maps. relationships end and people move on not asking same things mwebantu. I felt bad were she got emotional. I salute kplus for being more empathetic. elson tone down the sarcasm mwe
Love you guys but I feel u brought her to talk about yo maps(mulomo).We don't know her education, career, advertising works we know her for.keep up with the good work.
She was asked, but she didn’t want to give much in-tell
Of course that's what she was brought here for, what else? If you're a footballer, you'll be interviewed on football, shes famous for this particular part of her life that's why it was focused on. Besides she was defensive about everything, they said "you're making good banks" she said No, they told her shes lucky ati NO..lol then what the hell are they supposed to do?
Elson, your questions sometimes can be cringy sometimes and I feel so uncomfortable for the people being interviewed but your thoughts on mental health have redeemed you.
I wish more people could see it from this perspective .How are you going to be disrespectful and not expect a reaction? Eish they should give her a break
Check the facebook streets already and you will understand why she held back when talking about that relationship. I think you should have also taken interest to know more about her as an individual. Otherwise I love her😍😍
Exactly, am sure they were even ready to pick words from her mouth, I like her conservativeness.
She's smart and strong
Please bring people who are willing to respond to questions,imagine someone busy dodging questions nah ,Elson is my type of person...BTW she was too defensive
Can you imagine!!!
Exactly!!!Let it all out damn ,this is a flipping podcast. What did she think she was signing up for?
True
They need a Female co-host even the interview with Iris needed some female energy! Trish Chanda for the job, I said it first!
K-plus is such a sport! I love it! Elson is… well,he’s Elson😏 (PS. I heard that ‘kinda’ from Elson after saying Mwizu looks 18 and really good…). I love the dynamic between the both of you, you balance each other out really well.
This convo was meh tbh though. Like someone already said, Mwizu really had her guard up and came off very inauthentic as a result. I guess it’s understandable because of all the negativity she’s received on the internet but it makes me wonder, why did she agree to be interviewed, if she wasn’t willing to be vulnerable (even if only to a certain extent) about what made her a social media sensation, in this case, Yo Maps. Even simple questions like “how long were you together”, “did you get pregnant after 3 weeks”, “did he know you had kids”, she kept skirting around them. Like, whether or not Yo Maps said the opposite, we wanted to hear HER truth.
Anyway. I hope she heals from all she’s been through because of the end of her relationship with Yo maps.
I feel she really needs therapy.
“Story for another day” Mwizu this is the day😂😂😂these things don’t come everyday
Elson:are you bitter about it??
Mwizukanji: nope!
Elson: you sound like you are👀👀👀😂🤣😂🤣Elson👏👏👏👏👏you are asking our questions 😂🤣😂thank you
She's bitter🤣🤣
He is the bomb
Pipo expect her to answer those questions and then they bring it to social media to insult her. Go girl u have done well
Imagine, smh...
I totally agree
Elson sure. He was being mean 😂😂😂 ati you want the teeth to match yours
Mwizu: are my teeth funny?
Elson: yah.
Elson and Kplus hugging was my favorite moment.☺️ Otherwise the interview was a horror movie
Train reck
Ikr
😂😂😂
😂😂 so many cringeworthy moments lol I feel she's yet to heal maybe not the best time for interviews.
@@bwalyateresachitangala2044 Indeed. She needs to take Break from everything and everyone, she doesn't even have the man's number. And they have a kid together smh
The rudeness and defensiveness felt like as if she was forced into this interview. It ended up being like a cho chise with Elsons agitated side coming out ohhhh boyyyyyy - choose your candidate wisely
True.... she made it uncomfortable to watch... I was cringing.
This conversation has brought tears to my eyes, especially that part were she intended to take her own life. I can relate to that , hugs to you superwoman😭. I love you
Defensive when asked questions, she’s still healing . Hope one day she’ll fully heal to be able to talk about it. Love and light 💡
It’s not about healing , the questions about yo maps must so so boring and irritating her by now. There was so much more they could have asked her! She has achieved so much
And talking about it now especially that both of them have moved on is just unfair. They should have asked other things except the breakup with someone who recently got married.
@@maganizo4405 oh please we only know about this girl cause of yo maps , so why not answer?
@@dianalungu592 no one asked her to say she loves him she was simply supposed to answer questions which she couldn’t.
She is known for him in beginning but she's known for more now and kudos to her she can choose what she wants to talk about unless you are Dr and have treated her that you can tell that she's sick and needs healing.
The walls of Jericho is all I'd say. Elson and Kplus duo was needed in the entertainment industry, kudos to y'all!
I think she is defensive because she feels like what ever she puts out will be used against her.
That is true
True
Very true
That moment she broke down about her dad I felt it.... 😔 Rest in peace papa ❤️
I thought the KB podcast was bad, this is the worse.. But you guys remain the best!!
Its the worst mwe
You are right
Ene pano lol haaaa I couldn't stand the first 5 mins.
Loved how Elson emphasized on the importance of therapy and the hug🥰🥰❤️ losing a loved hard is pain you never really get to heal from.
I want to be straight forward like Elson.. This guy doesn't hold back for anybody 😂😂. Our speaker for the men's conference 2023. Our mental health advocate 👏🏾👏🏾. Keep it up king
She is really a strong woman, what she went through was really hell. You can tell she is still hurting and much of the brokenness is from cyber bullying than the relationship. Wishing her healing 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
After elson talked about therapy, mwizu seemed to be calm and emotional. She really needs help. If you come out of relationship in bitterness you will go in another relationship with it. Please if there is any help then someone should do it.
Tense and emotional. Elson, that was thoughtful of you to offer hugs, and suggest to Mwizu.
Mwizu is so coy during this interview its difficult to enjoy this interview. Great effort on your end Kalenga and Elson on to the next.
The beginning of this episode you can cut the tension with a knife 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Why haven’t I watched these guys sooner!!!! OMG you guys are hilarious,love the humor and sarcasm! Off to watch the other interviews 😃
The whole point of this show is to be as open as you can, she's still healing...
I m excited for this...BUT Why is she answering questions like this?? (Especially the how did you meet question) ...I have felt lazy ine 😭😭😭😭
To much straight forward answers
Making the interview session boring.
Imagine aii
I'd like to thank Elson for suggesting therapy to Mwizu, hope she considers it!
Don't bring such kind guests, she has been defensive throughout the interview.She is probably still hurting.Elson though, the guy is a villain
She should have just stayed home,the defensiveness was irrelevant.
I don't care what you guys say but Elson is a vibe 😂😂😂
You can still perceive the hurt in her tone though, unfortunately. You will heal eventually.
Kalenga & Elson though, throwing shade low key😂😂😂
Thought I was the only one who noticed
The low key blows 🙂
This beautiful African queen needs to pause , heal and release the anger .
True she’s holding in so much anger
She’s fought so many people online that every question lands like an attack on her rather than people trying to get the full picture of what was really happening off social media, in real time when all that was going on.
Otherwise, I wish her well.
Yes.. it's like she's trying to run away
The comment about her teeth was unnecessary, or he understands why the guy left was all not nice .
@@munalulalukonga9696 yeah I agree that was uncalled for. I get he likes to be funny but he has to read the room. Knowing all the “you’re ugly” comments she’s received online, commenting negatively about her appearance surely isn’t the way to get her to loosen up.
Damn, sis came with both Guns blazing… it’s a podcast interview sis, have fun and chop it up with the fellas.
Disappointing 😞
Next time please bring people willing to share like lulu,Dr mujajati, the zed farmer,mutale mwanza episodes.
K Plus and Elson...crazy Combo you guys. Great Interview. ✌️✌️
I feel like @ThatZEDPodcast didn't do a good job today. Y'all just focused alot on the previous relationships and nothing much was said about her educational background, what she specializes in, how she got to work for Jelumu, how she juggles motherhood & entrepreneurship etc things that talk about her as a person and not someone's ex, I'm pretty sure she's tired of living in that shadow 🙄🤷🏼♀️
Plus y'all didn't make her feel comfortable with herself it felt like you were interrogating her, opening old wounds that probably haven't healed that's why she was defensive. Please work on that.
You are right, yo maps shouldn't be the topic every day more over is now married.
Exactly
K-plus and Elson are a match made in heaven man!! The podcast is interesting with you both on it. And those complaining about Elson should stop this guy is representing the harsh in society.
She misses her dad clearly. I understand her situation, I have been through that phase its not easy. People grieve differently.
Indeed dad's are heroes, she narrated alot of hurtful things and ddnt shed a tear immediately discussed about dad😭😭
Mwizukanji came ready for this interview...she knew all these questioned would be thrown at her.you interviewers shud just stop asking her about yomaps there is more to mwizukanji s life.
Mwizu is still healing eish....Elson you are amazing 👏
K plus was putting out the fire that Elson was trying to start....
I think just by her being on this zedpodcast was therapy in a way..Enjoyed the episode
There's no president of depression
Elson!!!👏👏
I love how Mwizukanji handled herself.big ups queen.💞👑
This should be a sign that you guys now need to up your game around how you carry out your conversations. To be honest,what you focused on asking her in this interview is what any typical Zambian platform would ask.And the moment those answers were not available,the conversation died.Hence it lacked depth .At the end of the day,you have know control over whether someone wants to give you an answer or not 😂 and it shouldn’t bother you cause there’s a lot more things you can talk about..A perfect example is how Joe rogan can talk to someone for over 2 hours without it being awkward and he has been consistent at doing that. Even podcast that were notoriously known for grilling guests.e.g Breakfast Club,have evolved from that style. I’ve been listening to podcasts from as early as 2014 so it was actually great to see you guys do it on this level in Zambia..just an observation
I agree with you on this one
This has been the smartest comment I've read. These guy's really need to up their game. I haven't watched the episode but I believe it was a way to get people talking and increase their numbers. Was there anything worthy to take away from it?
@@nyambenamasiku9170 well worthy to take away from it is subjective.So personally I didn’t take anything from it😂..might be different for you 🤷🏾♂️
Well shes famous for that particular part of her life, if you're a musician on the podcast obviously music will be talked about, that's what made the individual famous, plus she was not opening up about anything, what were they supposed to do? She was defensive about everything even where it wasn't necessary, they told her shes making money, she said NO, they told her shes lucky to have someone to talk to she said "I'm not lucky"...she countered everything even when it was positive. A podcast is driven by how open and interesting the guest is because you're having conversations it's not scripted so it's not like they have a bunch of well lined up questions.
@@yungking2801 from your response i can tell you’re new to this podcast thing. Your understanding on the dynamics of a podcast is very shallow and I don’t blame you for that. Firstly you should understand that the host is responsible for what direction the conversation takes.We are dealing with human beings here and everyone is different,some people are interesting and some may not be,some people are emotional and some are not.lol.the list is endless..so the success of an episode cannot just depend on the guest being interesting or not…For example there are people like Elon Mask and Kanye West,these people are hard to converse with and may not strike as interesting to certain people because of their thought process but i have watched them on certain podcast and they’ve been hosted for over 3 hours. So learn that interesting is subjective too. And what an individual is famous or infamous for is only a fraction of what goes on in their lives so there’s always something you can talk about.
I WONT BE SHOCKED IF THIS GOES OVER YOUR HEAD😂you need to do your research
"If you were answering the way you're then I understand why he left" whoooo Elson.
Worst episode. I learned completely nothing. I often skip episodes of people I don't know or have no interest in but still end up giving the benefit of a doubt just to hear their side of the story as opposed to what we get on social media. Never liked Dumisani Ncube now I do, cool guy. Same thing goes for Chella, Bowman, Mutale Mwanza and the PR Girls. I learned something from them and understood what makes them the way they are. I was hoping the same from this episode but just like the Iris and KB episodes...nothing. I guess I will always know her as Yo Maps ex as she really didn't give reason for us to say otherwise. Maybe K-Plus and Elson didn't make her comfortable enough in the beginning for her to open up , okay no I take that back Maybe K-Plus didn't make her comfortable enough and Elson was a bit on the calm side as compared to how he approached guests "he knew little or nothing about". Damn that's a long comment, I should turn my RUclips channel into one where I critic the show (negatively and positively), among other shows
Most definately Elson didnt enjoy this episode because questions werent being answered directly and because she was holding up alot.
ELSON always want to bring out the truth and will always use your answer for the next question that's interesting ,that's why i love #ThatZedPodcast
Genius
K-plus and Elson are very professional and their energy is unmatchable..keep up the good work
People hardly knew who Mwizukanji was before 2020. But following a public break-up with her then fiancé, Yo-Maps, she became an instant Facebook celebrity.
She opens up about her life here.
Elton😂
The accuracy
She didn’t open up about anything though 😑so defensive
Nothing was opened...
She was rude, defensive and busy dodging question she shouldn't have come to the podcast...,...........
She's still bitter nd hurting about the fact that Papa oliyo left her
When she was talking about her dad, I felt her pain. It is not easy to lose a parent or any loved one.
if she gives us answers, we are going to turn them against her.
It's good she doesn't want to bring yomaps in the picture.
let yomaps come answer the question, because his the one who brought them on media.
You're right! Now everyone is acting like she was wrong because she didn't give out all the information they wanted to hear!
Whatever!!
I love your program and keep it up and cool as usual.
I think you are too human at times
She says am " sarcastic and all the sarcasm from the guys went over her head
Right ? 😂
I strongly feel she needs 40 days and 40 nights of total dry therapy coz she's broken beyond our imagination. At first I was so irritated but then I understood that her past has made a sarcastic, succinct, blow for blow, high guarded individual in her. I wish her Peace, Love and total Healing.
🙏🏽❤️💯
I totally agree with you 💯💯
K-Plus and Elson you guys are doing great interviews. This is one of those that the guest was closed, but you managed to make it interesting.
I can feel the way Elson was feeling with this interview
One thing I like about this program because they interact with there funs thankx guys will keep supporting you…how I wish this show had a subscription fee I would be the first to pay 💰 💰
Bro! There are so many ways of answering questions if you aren’t comfortable with giving out full information. But being defensive and taking every question like an attack just isn’t it. Baby girl is still healing and it shows.
So emotional interview ..but I love how she turns her situation around .
I swear I really love Elson I’d really love to have a conversation with him
Elson is a natural... a wild bull
I think the same, he is very smart
But all in all Mwizu is 💯 lovable n the realest I love how she does not pretend to be someone else but is just her “defensive”#lol but pretty strong self 💪
I'm getting some defensive vibes form Mwizu....girl you came to the podcast relax we just wanna hear your voice😁😁😁
True!!!!
😂😂😂
As things stands this is the most viewed of zedpodcast videos and the first video to have over 50 views In a 1 day. Very influential girl
She's dodging questions, if u have healed u can freely talk about everything without minding who it will affect.
Very true
So true!
Exactly
I am glad she didn't give out any information that would have been used against her
I love how you guys ask questions coz you make your guest clarify on certain things. #how can i get hold of THAT ZED PODCAST T-SHIRT?
The last part was the funniest for me. AS usual great content. @That Zed Podcast never diss
apoints
Elson is a douche and I like that🤣🤣🤣🤣 This dude is so raw and real. Way to go man!
the sarcasm nd passive aggression in this interview. crazy pipo. we love u guys anyways