Ruckdiculousness 9! The MOLLE 4,000!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2023
- Ruckdiculousness 9! The MOLLE 4,000! Howdy Folks! It's Time For A Little More Ruckdiculousness! A recent eBay find of an experimental rucksack designed for The U.S. Army Airborne became an instant purchase! After several months of using the pack I have learned much about it.
The MOLLE 4,000 that I purchased was a "Test Item" which led to the full production "Issue" item currently in use by Airborne forces of the U.S. Army. I will share all I have learned about this Ruckdiculously Awesome pack and will discuss the differences between the "Test Item" and the Issue Pack. I will also do a comparison an contrast of the MOLLE 4,000 and other packs I own and have used extensively.
Reference Links For The MOLLE 4,000 "Test Item" Rucksack:
www.gear-illustration.com/202...
www.army.mil/article/141297/
www.fayobserver.com/story/new...
Reference Links For The MOLLE 4,000 "ISSUE" Rucksack:
soldiersystems.net/2019/09/19...
Great find, Brother !!!
That bottom compartment, I would use for a tarp, and Ranger Roll, maybe even a hammock, storage AO....just for expediency in setting up and tearing down.....ridgelines, tent pegs, and bungees too.
Just my idea.
Keep up the great work !!!
The Lord brought us together for a reason Brother! Those Are Brilliant Ideas I Am going To USE! Thank You!!!!
Wha I was thinking and your rain cover, refuse etc.
Excellent review John, as always! Good to see you doing reviews again and back out in the field. GOD BLESS Brother and have a great summer!
Thank You Brother! I have a lot more field time "planned". Looking forward to catching up on lost time. God Bless You As Well Brother!
awesome John...I sure do love the Ruckdiculousness of it all...I like the modularity in this design, but I also like the fact that you can just chuck it all inside, cinch her down and go!!!...MTwoods
Thank You Brother! If you plan your load, a single top loading pack is fine. The user just has to use their noodle.
Good to see you back brother. Great pack. 🏴
Thank You Very Much! I'll keep on keep'n on the best I can!
Got one with air items. Recently picked up the improved molle ruck 4000. It has 2 pockets at the bottom on the sides and has 3 small pockets at the top identical to the top pockets on the large Alice pack. Already packed out as my to go bag
Actually the side pockets are larger than you state they will hold a good fair amount of equipment. Until you get your hands on one don't understate the size of the pockets
What a great find!
I lucked out again!
great find looks very usable
I really like it so far considering, the lack of load lifters and the features I can't use due to me not being a paratrooper.
Very nice find. Great review.
Thank you very much brother!
Great find
Thank you! I lucked out for sure!
Pretty cool backpack!
I've enjoyed using it. I like it pretty well!
Omg when i see connected double sided velcro i get so happy lol.
I find my happiness anywhere I can! Hahahahaaaaaaa!!!!
So I have found that the 1606 frame position is not ideal for load-lifters. They become more "load-adjusters" with not much lifting involved because the straps run more or less horizontal from the shoulder strap to the frame, sometimes downwards to the frame depending on your height etc. None of which is ideal for getting the actual desired lifting effect.
A solution, and this works equally for the ALICE pack, is to get a rigger or cobbler to sew two webbing loops onto the top of the pack itself using existing webbing as a re-inforcing panel with the ladderlocks attached. This gives the LLs a couple of inches extra height when the pack is fully loaded and creates that imnportant upwards angle. An added benefit is that the LLs can be made to run exacly in line with the straps and not angle awkwardly inwards. These little changes have a major impact on tthe carrying comfort.
You got a deal. Presently $300+
ROINX! REE RAGGY!!!! I thought I got a deal when I ordered it, but I had no idea what it was or how prevalent they would become.
I just picked up the large molle for 30$ with frame and all on marketplace and also the 2 day assault pack for 25$ same day.
nice bag iloved the hammock set up 🤙🤙
Thank You Very Much!
@@boonedockery7220 your welcome🤙🤙
I would put my wet weather gear poncho, boots in the bottom pouch for quick access
Great Call! Thank You!
I don't really like a top-load pack which that's what I have now but I am learning to use small pouches to compartmentalize my equipment which does make it easier to get what I want out but I do so love a front load pack and it seems to me that they're kind of hard to find but if I keep looking I'm sure I will find one. Thanks for the video and keep them coming. I hope things are getting better for you because you seem just a little happier, especially when you get a new pack. Stay safe out there
My favorite style of pack will have top and front or side access. Especially for backpacking. If I'm just hiking to a camp site that I'll stay at for a few days, I'm good with a top loader. Compartmentalizing my kit has become a must for me. I can't imagine not being able to do that anymore.
Things at home are still not great, but I have had to learn to deal with it all and steal away time as I need to (just takes a good bit of planning). Since chaos has become the "routine" I've had to build my other "routines" into the chaos. It has taken a while, but with the Lords Help, we're doing the absolute best we can given our situation. I Praise The Father For Showing Me A Way! It sure wasn't me, I ain't that smart! HAHAHAhahahaaaaaa!!!!!
Brother, I pray you have a fantastic evening! Vigilance Unwavering Brother!
@@boonedockery7220 amen my friend keep up the faith
If you're really interested in front loaders made to mil spec, check out Mystery Ranch. They've gotten into Spec Ops systems in a big way. Multi entry is standard with their stuff.
Interesting bag, it would work well for my kit.
I kind wish I would have ordered 2 and use one as a winter go bag to replace the one in my vehicle.
Greetings- That is a real cool find you have there. I have a Molle II 3 day assault pack which Im getting ready to dye after watching a video of yours and others in regards to dying ACU. I plan on using the Molle 3 day assault pack as my main day pack. I use a large Alice pack for my 3 day minimum pack on the old metal frame. I like seeing some of the stuff they have these days, but I have to be honest- The absolute best pack ever made was the Alice IMHO. Ive done road marches and patrols with the Alice and the Molle II, and in a tactical environment, the squeaking of plastic frames is a definite NO-GO. That being said, it all boils down to personal preference- Good video-
Thanks for your comment and for watching the video. I am intrigued with many of the features of current generation packs, both military and civilian (that are made with the military in mind, i.e., Mystery Ranch, Khifaru, Granite Gear etc...) packs. I used the Large and Medium ALICE packs when I was a Cav Scout. There are many reasons Folks are still buying and using ALICE packs, they are extremely durable, practical, and for the most part comfortable. I own one of each (both USGI)and have several packs designed to use the venerable LC2 frame. The ALICE packs are manufactured far better than the MOLLE 4,000! You won't see too many MOLLE 4,000 packs in 50 years, but I am quite confident you will still see some ALICE packs! Excellence does not require bells and whistles. Thanks for your service Brother!
Yes- so you can speak from experience- I cant remember but wasnt Cav Scout a 19D MOS??? I agree that the design ideas are pretty cool with alot of this newer stuff. I had quite a few Cav Scout friends back in Germany. Them dudes got stuff done with them M2 Bradleys- Cool-@@boonedockery7220
They missed the boat with the straps on this one. If that top pad were a bit different design they could have run a proper strap harness like the Australians use on the ALICE style rucks they are in love with!
AGREED! I will have to find some images of the Australian ALICE ruck system, I'm intrigued!
@@boonedockery7220 I have had Australian (probably made in Korea or China but good stuff) harness and belt on a FILBE frame for a couple years now and my only complaint is that as a skinny little fellow I still need to slightly modify the belt for summer use!
i just got mine issued in Feb this year its a great ruck
Its pretty much a modern day Alice pack. so I recommend if you have an old Alice frame too put it on
I do have several ALICE frames, I will switch the frames out and give it a test drive! Thanks for the tip!
the drag/carry handle is that large (I think) because when they rig it for airborne, they run the shoulder straps and the air harness through the drag/carry handle -- there are 6 videos or so on here that show how to rig it (I have this pack as well, no frame or straps because I have others that I am using on mine)
Cool, I'll check some out. Thanks!
@@boonedockery7220The shortest is by a guy named Pous. He's active duty with 173rd Airborne Brigade. Try MOLLE 4000 ground configuration. He's also got one on the ammo bandoliers that's a real eye opener. You may cry with regret.
@@boonedockery7220Go to Pousinboots.
I thought the one with 3 mag pouches and the side pouches permanently attached were the earlier test versions
???????? I'll look into it.
Mate, geeezzz you're a prick!! I have been so inspired by your RUCKDICLOUSNESS videos I just bought a new ALICE frame and hip belt, back pad/shoulder straps set!! I know the items a the real deal since I bought them from TAS, Tactical Assault Systems (I live in Australia and this is an Aussie company who make gear for our defence force and cadets). I'm ex army and navy myself. I only recently found your videos and subscribed. Nice work mate!! 👍
Thanks and I am glad you were inspired!
I saw this bag in your last video, and then searched for some more on it, glad its here
Supposedly these are going to eventually replace the old large MOLLE 2 (MOLLE 5000) ruck for everyone. While I think the 1606 frame is better overall I suspect there's going to be a disconnect somewhere between established packing lists and the reduced capacity of these newer packs within the army.
I like your thinking, And I Agree With You! I have not seen the official issue version yet, however if it's very close to the Test Item, there are some issues that will need to be addressed before it replaces the MOLLE II.
Nice score alright !!
Thank you! So far, with few exceptions, I got my money's worth.
smaller rucks doesn't necessarily mean less gear and more comfort,it will probably be even more difficult now to carry all your required stuff in the field,also,i dont really see a problem with the molle 2,sure, the frame was plastic and complicated as hell to set up but it was a sturdy,big and reliable with the possibility to make it smaller thanks to the big ass straps,but hey,this means we are gonna see a lot of ocp/multicam molle 2 rucks for the cheap in the surplus market,anyway,alice was better
cheers Boondock
Compared to the first gen MOLLE pack the MOLLE II is almost "light weight"! I have assembled a complete OCP MOLLE II and have purchased 2 UCP MOLLE II packs for future projects/videos. From my test patrols, It's a pretty nice pack! The Venerable ALICE packs (Dear To My Heart) lacked two crucial features.... Load adjusters and a bend of the frame at the base of the neck. IMHO...
Hi John, I’m Infantry from 82nd, I wonder can you try to put THOR’s frame or NICE frame on this ruck and see how it works?
So those mag pouch on the top of issue Molle 4k, doesn’t even fit single 556mag properly in there, it doesn’t not fit double mags, the mag will fallout easily.
I haven't tried either THOR nor Nice frames with it. I will have to look at them for feasibility. I think the inspectors are getting lazy. I have acquired a few "NEW" USGI pouches recently and the construction quality was obviously NOT what it should have been. I purchased a 3 mag M4 side pouch and one of the end pockets is too narrow to facilitate a magazine (even issue aluminum mags). This is completely unacceptable!
@@boonedockery7220 if you check out all these tactical gear out there like Ferro Concepts, Shaw Concepts, Spiritus Systems…
Army issue gear is completely trash and 100% not acceptable for people who putting their lives on them.
I have the same Ruck any ideas on how to add “load lifters”?
I've played around with a couple ideas but nothing has worked as well as I had hoped.
Very good deal!
Why the army doesn‘t prefer frontloading systems?
Zippers have a nasty habit of failing. And the military likes long stuff, like mortar tubes, and rounds, all of which somebody expects grunts to hump sometime.
@@nomadmarauder-dw9re Yeah, and they tend to get abused by troops a lot, and get really dirty and muddied up which contributes a lot to frequent zipper failure.
looks like it could take a alice frame as well
I believe it could. I'll have to follow up on that...
So will that 4000 pack fit on an alice frame ?
It's my understanding (bare in mind I have not tested it) That most any pack that can accept the FILBE frame can accept the ALICE LC-2 frame and vice versa. However, securing the sides and bottom of the packs may need some modifications to attach the respected packs to the other frames. Given the fact that there are no load lifters the use of the LC-2 frame would probably be a better choice with weights exceeding 40 pounds.
i'll give you 125 for it right now!
HAHAHahahahaaaaaaaa!!!!! Brother, had I had the for-thought of buying a second pack at the price I did, I would've sent you one! I'd say between the two of us we could have quite the Military Surplus Store!