Man, I love Phoenix. It’s my favorite set. But I can’t justify buying right now. Everything including this is out pricing me. That sucks. Cool video, appreciate you ripping so I can buy singles.
Hobby should have been $250ish, and these should be $125ish. Panini was just waiting for any QB to play well so they could jack up prices. In the end, the demand meets the price, but I just can’t do it. You’re right though. Still a fun rip! The seismics looks awesome.
They’re funny. Also I think I have a cheat code for Phoenix. The parallels are so cheap that you can buy a Stroud numbered parallel for less than half the cost of one H2 box. Just tell your friends you pulled it 😂
Glad to hear you got these for the a half way decent price. They are beautiful cards but the value is rough! I believe the box break buy ins are greatly affecting these prices. Panini knows collectors/flippers can get great pulls at a fraction of the price. I’m even considering sticking strictly to box breaks cus this is truly a wealthy man’s hobby and the return value is terrible. Just terrible. Or maybe I’ll just go back to collecting bottle caps 🤷🏻♂️
Topps is def all time. Panini has the license for basketball and football until 2025 and 2026. Then Topps takes over. As far as best basketball value boxes I'd say TMall Asia boxes are the best.
I can get an H2 box for about $200 based on where I'm gonna buy it from. You think $200 is still a little high, and maybe wait for that to come down some more?
@@huxbux Yeah most of the videos about Phoenix H2 spell doom and gloom. Went out and grabbed a Phoenix Hobby today - safe to say was pretty pleased. Had a Zay Flowers Auto 06/20 and a case hit - Phoenician Stefon Diggs. Got pretty close to my moneys worth overall. So glad I went with the hobby box.
@@huxbux hard pass 😂. Might test my luck with another rookies and stars box, but was thinking about getting prizm basketball hobby but 934 dollars is insane.
Hey everyone! Phoenix H2 is here. What's historically been a viable alternative to hobby. Not anymore. Find out why and enjoy the video!
Man, I love Phoenix. It’s my favorite set. But I can’t justify buying right now. Everything including this is out pricing me. That sucks. Cool video, appreciate you ripping so I can buy singles.
@CromCards I feel you. And I appreciate the recognition that to buy singles, wax has to be ripped. That concept is lost on a portion of hobbyists.
This might be my new favorite channel
I love the movie references you put in your videos 👍🏼🤣
Glad you enjoyed 😁
Hobby should have been $250ish, and these should be $125ish. Panini was just waiting for any QB to play well so they could jack up prices. In the end, the demand meets the price, but I just can’t do it. You’re right though. Still a fun rip! The seismics looks awesome.
If I hadn't gotten these for $150, I wouldn't have touched them either. I hope a lot of this product sits and sits and drives down prices.
Awesome man! 🔥
New subscriber. Thanks for sharing. I like the look and card design. Will definitely pick up some singles.
Welcome to the channel!
Ill never get to open one of these or a hobby so it is nice ripping vicariously through the channel. Awesome video
That’s about more the double the price from just a year ago….sad.
Glad I could be your vessel to Phoneix 😁
But Stroud 🙄
Still don’t know why they made Phoenix H2, in my opinion, only Prizm deserved to have H2, not even optic
Money, money and more money.
Thanks for showing
Thanks for watching 😉
Great design ❤
Cool boxes
Your intros are unbeaten
💪
Hux is wildin out on these edits 😂
We're tryin!
They’re funny. Also I think I have a cheat code for Phoenix. The parallels are so cheap that you can buy a Stroud numbered parallel for less than half the cost of one H2 box. Just tell your friends you pulled it 😂
Although nothing great, I would be a little happy due to the Steelers cards.
But, I agree with you on these. I won’t bother
I do live near Pittsburgh but forever a Bills fan.
even if you have a gun to your head - do not buy LOL. Thanks I needed that
Everyone needed that 😉
Glad to hear you got these for the a half way decent price. They are beautiful cards but the value is rough! I believe the box break buy ins are greatly affecting these prices. Panini knows collectors/flippers can get great pulls at a fraction of the price. I’m even considering sticking strictly to box breaks cus this is truly a wealthy man’s hobby and the return value is terrible. Just terrible. Or maybe I’ll just go back to collecting bottle caps 🤷🏻♂️
Buy singles is the only sensible way to enjoy this hobby if you don't have expendable income. I think breaks are worse than buying boxes personally.
@@huxbux I’ve done a few box breaks. I’ll only do it if it’s “divisional”. No way in hell I’m buying in on a random team.
Nice parallels!
Like the intro
Thanks!
That was a fun rip. But I'm with you. I love Phoenix cards but they are way over priced. I'm going to skip on these. Thanks for the cool 😎 video.
I really like the Seismic Parallel this year. Looks awesome on Phoenix. That price though. I don't know in what world that's justified.
And I thought my crappy luck was bad. But yet we keep buying don't we......
Bad luck just means good luck is right around the corner, right? 🤣
What’s up Hux
Another day...another vid 😎
Box 1 was definitely better and the cards as a whole look great, just not $300 great. It's a shame what panini is doing with their pricing.
I'm not privy to how product gets priced but it feels like the 3rd party sellers are dictating price as much or more than Panini.
What are the best boxes for a reasonae price?
And is panini the all time best card seller?
Topps is def all time. Panini has the license for basketball and football until 2025 and 2026. Then Topps takes over. As far as best basketball value boxes I'd say TMall Asia boxes are the best.
Wow. Yea def not gonna be purchasing at $300 price tag. Cool vid but that was pretty brutal
Only a clinically insane person would buy this at $700. Thanks to AAMint I got both boxes for $150 each. That didn't hurt as bad thankfully.
Phoenix is so Phoenix
Most definitely love it or hate it.
Not great but nice product😊❤
I can get an H2 box for about $200 based on where I'm gonna buy it from. You think $200 is still a little high, and maybe wait for that to come down some more?
Too expensive. Phoenix H2 in 2022 were selling for just above $100 after release. Stroud or no Stroud I can't recommend a 2023 box at that price.
@@huxbux Yeah most of the videos about Phoenix H2 spell doom and gloom. Went out and grabbed a Phoenix Hobby today - safe to say was pretty pleased. Had a Zay Flowers Auto 06/20 and a case hit - Phoenician Stefon Diggs. Got pretty close to my moneys worth overall. So glad I went with the hobby box.
@altx7776 A better choice for sure. Glad it paid off. I'd be drooling over that Diggs...3 weeks ago.
@@huxbux Hmmmmmmmm I wonder why 3 weeks ago 🤣
facts
Tell it like it is.
H2 just waters down the product
Sure does. I don't mind it for low end sets whose single don't carry value to begin with. But h2 should be $100 boxes.
300 dollars is ridiculous lol.
Just a wee bit 😬
@@huxbux hard pass 😂. Might test my luck with another rookies and stars box, but was thinking about getting prizm basketball hobby but 934 dollars is insane.
What’s the point of those fillers?
There's patch autos in Phoenix. The fillers make it so you can't pack search for them.
@@huxbuxisn’t kind of hard to patch shop when they’re all in a sealed box?
@@ajgreen868Shops will sell single packs out of a box.
@@huxbux gotcha. I hardly ever buy hobby so I didn’t know. Thanks!
It seems Panini can't hold onto anything nice. Monopoly isn't the same as last year and clearly from your video neither is this.
They've got this year and next to squeeze as much as they can out of that NFL license. And they sure are.
2023-24 Monopoly prizm sucks
I may be in the minority here, but I wasn’t impressed with Phoenix. Same with Rookies & Stars.
Maybe 🤣 But we like what we like.
@@huxbux the world would be a boring place if we were all exactly the same lol
Way overpriced!
By a hair 🤣