John Carpenter's The Thing, Lost in Adaptation ~ Dominic Noble &
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Public opinion on The Thing as a film has changed dramatically over time, but how does it stand up as an adaptation of John Campbell's short story Who Goes There?
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I would suggest watching the prequel the thing that came out in 2011, although the CGI is and terrible behind the scenes decisions by the exes it has a story that shows us what happened to the Danish team
I wonder if you can do a episode of lost of adaptation on Lord of the Flies book and both 2 films.
Try the edge of tomorrow
Ok, this is bugging me already, Dominic. In my country the first thing we all learn in literature class is that we should never judge a literary work by its author, but by its own merit as a story. That being said it never bothers me (or anyone for that matter) who and what the author was. When you say if you'd recommend reading something and you decline it as not worth it because the author had this and that view, I view it as detrimental to the audience who should be left up to make their own opinion. Yes, point out to the audience facts about the writers, but also remind them that they were products of their time and our contemporary sensibilities do not match the worldview from back then. It just seems the best way to do it, so that the reader knows a few things about the creator but also understands that they should judge the literature by it's own standing.
@@alexbotea5626 good for you. What I learnt went a bit further. Any interpretation of a work can include the author' life, view, relationships, anything. You can separate the art from the artist but if you want to try to understand it, research the artist.
I find it funny/ironic that you watched a horror movie about a shape shifting alien while clutching Ditto the shape shifting Pokémon.
I also found it funny
ULGROTHA Wait, what?
ULGROTHA Thank you for explaining it. Obviously it’s clear it’s been a little bit since I last watched Pokémon so I greatly a appreciate it.
There's a Smosh parody trailer of The Thing which has Ditto as the monster...
@ULGROTHA It's not that funny... but then, it's by Smosh, so that's not really a surprise.
John Carpenter intentionally swapped around the names of many of the people who were infected or human, so that if you read the book it would catch you off-guard.
Good move.
That's pretty cool
That’s what I’d do if I wanted to surprise people.
Ahh J C, always ahead of the curve.
cool, i didn't know that
How can you clam not being able to watch horror movies? You survived the 50 shades trilogy, you are way braver than I will ever be!
It's just as horrific lol
Fromwhat i heard earl james captured the worst horror in a terrifying relationship perfectly. Its not horror?
And 50 shades was a horror movie all its own.
I'm so glad you're doing things exactly as you want: not straining your voice, going with a name you prefer, etc.
I love his softer voice. Listening to these videos before sleeping has now become an option. Not that I do only that. I give every Lost in Adaptation a proper viewing as well.
tuschman168 yeah, Som with a softer voice is a bit like Shaun, who I use to also go to sleep sometimes. Only problem is, sometimes the content Shaun talks about is a bit depressing, so Dom is a good alternative if I’m just not up for that.
It’s a thing about soft spoken Brits. I just need one to lull me to sleep, I guess.
He will always stay the dom for me.
I love listening to Dominic speak before bed. He’s got such a nice soothing voice to fall asleep too.
@@katherinemorelle7115 highly reccomend Lonerbox for a Scottish version, very very nice voice
‘Nope nope nope nope...’ ADORABLE!!!
It’s ok, Dom, your kitties will protect you. Also your fearsome Lady 😊❤️
Am I the only one that finds it absolutely hilarious that Dominic is holding a Ditto plush, considering the subject matter of the work featured?
I'm glad the film cut the "ship is made of magnesium" bit since, as Linkara pointed out in his review of one of the comics, a ship made of that stuff would have melted during reentry.
He actually corrected himself stating that some types of magnesium have a higher melting temperature than that of planetary re-entry meaning the ship could have survived
@@Stormkrow280 its still a pretty superfluous detail that exists inly to make the alien more...alien
You and Kate did a fantastic job with this collaboration. It felt like a very equal presentation where you both shined, and I was amused by the weird gore fest of The Thing. Don't mind looking at Kurt Russell, either. ;) I vote for Kate being in more LiAs.
Oh! PushingUpRoses! It's so nice to see my favourite RUclipsrs are watching each other's channels 🙂
Kurt Russell is the man
I haven't seen Kate upload anything for a while now. How's she been lately? Hope she's doing well!
What happened with "that movie chick"? It says channel does not exist and I haven't been able to find anything about that on the internet?
I love the touch of you holding a ditto for protection against the shape-shifting monster 😂
Takes me back to old smosh
"You tried to watch a scary movie again, didn't you?"
Dom makes an I-just-peed-myself noise.
"You want to come over and watch it with you?"
Dom makes a happier I-just-peed-myself noise.
Dom, you are hilarious.
this was lol, i give him credit though, this film isn't one id recommend to those just getting into horror films or those who don't like a lot of blood.
I was not expecting an episode of John Carpenter's The Thing to be this adorable XD
One theory I heard for why the thing decided to go stealth is that it tried to do the slasher thing for the Norwegians but the Norwegians managed to fight it off so it changed tactics
I love that theory.
@@Grayvorn Sounds better than the actual prequel involving the Norwegians
This theory actually makes a lot of sense after watching the prequel and the original back-to-back. 🤔
@@georgeoldsterd8994 One thing I find funny is that the awfulness of the prequel elevates the original rather than ruin it like you would expect
"I have a friend who has a spaceship". Amusingly one of the best explained plot point in the Reviewniverse.
What is that referencing?
@@flynn659 he's referring to Linkara's spaceship on his show Atop The Fourth Wall (they used to be on the same site together)
@@flynn659 Who's also made quite a few reviews of Thing comics. I recommend checking him out
As someone who avoids horror stuff like the plague, I completely understand your feelings Dominic. Good on you for doing the review anyway.
I normally do as well because I hate cheap jumpscares, but I watched The Thing about a year ago.... my god it's a fucking great horror movie. From the tension filled soundtrack to the isolated setting, to the paranoid tone, to the cinematography, to the horrifying Lovecraftian shapeshifting monster, just perfect in my opinion.
@@caspianhorlick4529 I would love to watch it, but unfortunately I personally cannot handle a lot of the stuff in the movie and others like it, I mostly can handle it in video games or written :’)))
And there are other ppl that are like this :’)
I'm actually the only member of my family that actively likes horror
In my opinion, Who Goes There is pretty good and worth a read.
Personally I think one should separate the art from the artist. John Campbell's personal views don't change the quality of the story. Plus he's dead, so you don't have to worry about financially supporting him by buying his books.
I agree. I've never understood the idea of judging a work by its creators personal flaws.
ULGROTHA what is that in reference to?
@ULGROTHA The video is blocked in my region, what was it about?
@ULGROTHA ah I see. Thanks.
Agreed. Time Marches On, and in doing so opinions and beliefs change. It's almost impossible to enjoy an author's work once you get far enough from the time. Where they wrote it.
Lovecraft still stands as the gold standard for Eldritch Horror, and it should be noted in his personal life he realized his failings and tried to improve. His wife, who was Jewish, would often help him along. He also had potential mental problems such as depression and anxiety which may have also influenced.
Edgar Allan Poe also wrote beautiful fiction, even though he was in love with marginal child and among other things had an unfortunate name for his pet cat.
Which also indicates that certain words change in meaning and context over a years. Retarded means a regression of sorts, then was a medical term, then once it was used as an insult was discontinued as a medical term. So if you read a book that took place in say the sixties you might see that term.
I would also draw a distinction between Campbell and perhaps someone like the guy who wrote the Turner Diaries. It sounds as though Campbell was a competent author who was able to build atmosphere and tell a narrative more than adequately. The Diaries on another hand we're basically a strung together list of racist beliefs and is more propaganda. Something like the former deserves to be read on its own merits divorced from the Creator, whereas the latter has no merit.
Lastly I'll just mention that this idea of canceling people for any measure of slides since a president that I'm not fond of. We're all flawed human beings, and most of us change over time. Picking isolated incidents out of someone's entire life span and using that as justification to invalidate all of their existence seems inappropriate
You should do a lost in adaptation on Jaws. Those two are completely different stories
Wait. Jaws was based on a book?
I believe that Jaws is on his list of future episodes
OMG I can't believe I forgot about Jaws! There was a whole thing they cut from the movie when Dreyfuss was having an affair with Scheider's wife.
TheIcemanLJ didn’t realize that, but I’ll definitely look forward to it
Kamikaze Lemming We actually read the book in English class then watched the movie. Honestly if you’ve never read the book and only seen the movie there is a lot that will surprise you still. Like chicostephenson said there’s the affair and many of the characters are very different
You should do more crossovers! You have infectious chemistry with practically anyone you share the screen with!
Actually, at the end of "The Thing" one of the surviving crew members was a "thing". John Carpenter confirmed this years later, and there is significant evidence that one of them is a "thing", so really the entire world is fucked
A prize for guessing in advance how many different ways I pronounce MacReady in this 😅
Wasn't keeping track but I bet it's equal to the amount of times you try!
I'm gonna guess 6.
5
Not watched yet. I'll guess higher at 8
8
John Carpenter’s The Thing is easily one of my favorite movies of all time. It’s written so well and acted perfectly
A great score!!! And beautifully filmed.
The dom "nope, nope ,nope , nope"
I wonder if it was the head spider or mouth chest that broke the dom?
When I watched it with a friend who was a dog lover there was a moment where they just begged me to hit the skip button on the DVD.
For me, I would go with the Norris Chest-Mouth. Seriously, it's hard to get an image of that out of your head.....
Good to see you the Dom. Your chemistry with That Movie Chick is great. You two should do horror movies adaptations more often. Wait...the Fly was written by a Nazi hunter?! Awesome.
Someone needs to make a crossover between Inglorious Basterds and The Fly's author, or at least a full-length movie where DeCaprio's character from Once upon a time in Hollywood goes full Wolfenstein 3D on the Nazis.
"I have a friend who has his own spaceship." I know you're talking about Linkara, but my first thought was Zaphod Beeblebrox.
I thought of Angry Joe to be honest
ZaWHO???
Luis-Raul Diaz-Rios
He’s a guy with a heart of gold.
@@brennabrodbeck5183 Angry Joe has a space station, not a ship.
Not to defend racism or any such thing, but I do believe in separating the artist from their art and (especially as we are well passed the point that you would be supporting him for doing so) feel that one should be able to read Who Goes There? without worry of supporting or enjoying the work of a racist. Lovecraft is my favorite author of all time, been reading him since I was a kid just getting into horror, I may strongly disagree with his views, but I very much enjoy his work.
Anyways, was really happy to see this pop up into my feed, this is literally my favorite movie of all time. Watch it every single year in October and usually at least a couple times outside of then.
Furthermore, Lovecraft eventually changed his racist views. If we're going to judge a man, judge him at the end of his life, says I.
@@kurtjk01 Lovecraft may have (slightly) softened how he felt about certain races, he never recanted his racism and still held onto a lot of his shittier beliefs to the end of his life. Even then, the only softening was mostly pedantic distinction made to differentiate himself from the nazis that were growing in power at time. He still absolutely believed in the "master race" and the inferiority of almost everyone else. Don't make apologies for a terrible person.
I think his point was that it's just not well enough written to easily look past that
@@Edgeworth99 Zamn. Didn't know that Lovecraft was this based.
I think that the hard thing about authors who suck is that their views are often very prevalent in their writing so while you can technically seperate them you often really can’t
I first watched The Thing when I was about 12 or 13, and it seriously messed me up for weeks afterwards. For months I literally didn't trust anyone. Even family members could be shape-shifting monsters that wanted to kill me.
Love it now, though. Masterpiece of the genre.
The picture of John Campbell holding the science fiction magazine Analog.
John Campbell was an editor of it.
It's subtly hinted at the end of The Thing that Keith David's character was actually a thing because Kurt Russel offered him a drink like he did with the computer that beat him at chess. And the fact he accepted the drink without concern that he might get infected.
It’s worth the watch for the practical effects alone
That spider head is AWESOME!!
Seriously. The creature works in this movie were amazing!
There's a direct homage in the 2nd it film
Dom's "Mmhm" whine is perfect. I can watch it over and over again for hours.
I too, am also a fraidy cat when it comes to horror. Always have been.
Damn, you were right about offensive images. That ET clip had shotguns instead of flashlights. 🤤
I like that a super racist segregationist's book was adapted into a film that featured Black crew members who were treated as equals and had some really good characterization.
A dom crossover, just as rare as an episode of a Dom of ice and fire
Joe Evans well, considering he basically cancelled that series, and he’s only going to do character overviews... it makes sense
Hello, Dominic! I just wanted to say that I hope you're doing well, and I wanted to thank you for your lovely videos. I always enjoy them, and I love how you perfectly balance additude, sarcasm, and class.
Edit: Thanks a bunch for the heart. Keep up the amazing work.
When the cast turns around to see a head crawling across the floor may be John Carpenter's finest moment as a director.
"You've gotta be fucking kidding" almost felt like a 4th wall break 😂😅
This film is not only my favorite John Carpenter film, its my favorite horror film, period. A great cast, excellent cinematography, the tense, subtle score (I LOVE the heartbeat motif), fantastic practical effects, and an unrelenting layer of tension and paranoia capped of with a brilliant bittersweet ending.
If Im not mistaken, Carpenter himself considers this film his finest work, and one of his biggest regrets is that it took so long to get popular. At least he lived long enough to see this master class of horror film making get the recognition it deserves.
The Fly would probably be an interesting one to cover, given that the original 50s version was more closer to the short story while the 80s remake changed quite a lot.
I've never seen That Movie Chick's work before but this was a fantastic crossover
This movie will always have a bittersweet place in my heart. My friends dad was in a hospital type bed in her living room (basically hospice care) he had stopped being coherent or communicating for weeks. We were watching this film with him in the bg and every now and then he would quip something, proving he was still in there. I still remember him saying “Kurt Russell should have gotten rid of those shredded pjs. He’s in trouble now” probably among his last cogent utterances.
The guy MacReady shot was coming at him with a knife. How was it not self defense?
It WAS self defense
It was, it' just he killed a human while the other guy killed an alien duplicate so they didn't even care if it looked justified because it automatically was.
Dom is a Brit; to them, doing anything more than curling into a ball and hoping your attacker goes away is excessive force.
2wingo I thought that was the French lol.
@@2wingo Hardly. We're just not so obsessed with guns we need deadly weapons to feel safe popping down to the corner shop.
Fun Fact:
John Carpenter was a big fan of the famous kaiju star "Godzilla" and wanted to do a Godzilla film, but that sadly never came to be. Although he did appear in the episode of Animal Planet's "Animal Icons": "It Came from Japan".
Maybe it's just me, but the character of an author has never really influenced my ability to enjoy a story. I care if the flaws such as racism are shown in the style of the writing, such as intentionally killing off specific characters without any narrative purpose to it, but even with that its a problem with the book rather than the author I take issue with.
Mhm. Easy to do that when your society-prescribed race hasn't been the subject of literal lynchings in the past. The racism of H.P. Lovecraft and his ilk are sort of like...well, let's think of society like a burning house. You may look at the burning curtains and say, "Well, I don't mind the curtains burning, they were weird looking anyway," but your house is still very much on fire.
It depends on the person. I can enjoy art made by racists/sexists/homophobes/pedophiles, but i’ll still acknowledge that those problematic elements are indubitably integrated in the text. HP Lovecraft makes great horror but the racism is very obvious in the text; Luc Besson makes neat movies but his...fondness...for little girls is kinda glaring in Leon The Professional. But just because I can enjoy those stories doesn’t mean other people have to. I’m never gonna call other people of my race unreasonable because racism in a story is too much for them.
@@stormcloudsabound And, we have a winner. Thank you for saying this.
I dont begrudge anyone who can 'separate' the art from he artist; good on you.
But my not doing so isnt a flaw, nor does you being able to make you more virtuous, enlightened or better.
I also find it funny that more often then not, whenever I hear this, its always from someone with a drastically different perspective on history/culture then I. From classroom discussions, to message boards with profile pictures, its always white dudes, leading the charge, broadcasting how much more intellectually honest we all should be, when they havent received anywhere near the same kind of treadment historically.
And Im not even one of those people who bemoans everything as racist; far from it. Im also not a lightning rod for everything 'pro black'
Black Panther was a 5/10 at best, haha.
But if you are confirmed to proudly believe I am less than because of the color of my skin, and I need to be segregated/ostracized, then I have two balls for your chin.
This is such a SJW fuckfest. Omg.
@@alejandroalonso8642 Go cry about it.
The thing was filmed in Alaska and British Columbia. I knew someone that worked on it back in the day. Due to it being so cold when they were filming many of the crew drank liquor heavily. The exterior explosion scenes were larger than planned due to the special effects crew drinking while working.
if only this channel had a host who isn't afraid of confronting ideas even when he dosn't agree with them, or doesn't think that using bad language makes him look cool, and that basically understands that literature can't exist without intellectual freedom. like this young lady does.
what idea didnt he confront?
I don't blame Dom for not wanting to watch this, As much as I am a fan of great horror films, this is one of those that gave me nightmares when I was younger. You and Kate did such a great job working together for this one :)
This movie is a master-class in tension, practical effects and cosmic horror. John Carpenter was way ahead of his time. Great vid guys!
I love that you include a reference to Linkara (I have a friend who has his own spaceship), who has extensively reviewed all the spinoff comics that The Thing inspired, and is the reason I know about the property.
...the rest of the video is great too.
I have been waiting for this. John Carpenter is my personal favorite director and The Thing is not only, in my opinion, his Magnum Opus, but also my all-time favorite horror movie and one of my favorite movies period. Haven't read the original novella, but I do want to someday.
I wholeheartedly agree. I absolutely adore The Thing. I watch it every Halloween.
I still can't believe that it was so hated back when it was first released. Just goes to show that critics can't be trusted lol.
@@Shinigami41395 and @TheWolverine1987 I agree with everything you both wrote. Kudos to John Carpenter!
No, the Magnum Opus would be either Starman or They Live.
I hear people talk the gore in this film all the time, but I hardly even noticed it my first watch. For me the strategy (I guess that's the right word for it) used by The Thing and the humans in this back and forth war really stood out. I really love the mystery of not only who's The Thing but when they were infected.
I always figured the sizable armory in the 1982 film was due to Cold War paranoia being depicted at the American station, since it was still a part of life when the movie came out.
I personally don't care that the author had unsavory views, I care that I have now learned that one of my favorite horror movies was based on a book and now I must read it, the thing was something that, despite being something I probably shouldn't have seen at the young age I saw it, I absolutely was captivated by its take on an alien invasion and horror that I hadn't yet encountered
Hey Dom, will you consider doing the Hannibal Lecter books?
And the TV show and films! ✨
Void Breather Yes and those
@@voidbreather7405 HANNIBAL YES
He should be able to deal with those, I think. I can, and like Dom I HATE horror movies- the closest I get to horror is The Sixth Sense. (It has a jump scare, it counts).
But the Hannibal Lecter movies are more thriller than horror, and I know I personally do just fine with thrillers.
@@katherinemorelle7115 They're suspense, it's less jump scare and gore and more psychological
Many historical writers held views which would be disapproved of today. What matters is not the beliefs of the writer, but whether their writing is good.
that depends a lot on which views they had and how heavily their views influence their writing. Like, it's hard to treat the Baron Harkonnen as a bad guy who just happens to be gay when you know about Frank Herbert's strongly-held hatred for gay people, even including his own son.
My goodness, The Dom, I can’t do that! My best friend’s dragon is pregnant and requires a rather large mountain of gold for nesting purposes! I’m afraid my money is quite tied up right now.
(But great review, and warning at the start appreciated.)
4:23 Dominic clutching a ditto plushie while watching The Thing. How appropriate 🤣
I thought Campbell's novella was 'over-written' and over-packed when I read it about 5 years ago. The fact that it was condensed from a novel makes sense to me.
I love this film. As for the "excessive" guns given to our characters, remember- it was set and filmed during the latter half of the Cold War.
Even back then, there were international laws severely restricting the possession of firearms in Antarctica.
@@2wingo You could probably chalk this up to artistic license. After all, this would be a much shorter movie if Outpost 31 had no flamethrowers.
In defense of the "optimistic" movie ending, Childs is almost certainly a duplicate at the end since he *DOWNS A MOLOTOV COCKTAIL LIKE IT'S WATER,* meaning that MacReady is super dead either way.
i must ask, why did you use "molotov cocktail" instead of "bottle of booze"?
molotov cocktail is any bottle based incendiary weapon, bottle of booze is just bottle of spirits.
Another theory is that MacReady is the thing and through sharing his bottle with Childs, infects him through saliva.
I feel like separating art from artists is difficult depending on the genre. For example if someone writes a super empowering feminist book, that sounds dope! If you later find out that the person is in fact an abusive TERF then the girl power message falls a bit flat. Basically it's hard to read a Lovecraft novel knowing that every time he says "good breeding" he means "not you".
When it comes to 'John Carpenter's: The Thing', I have to recommend a short story that was in turn recommended to me: 'The Things' by Peter Watts. It's a harrowing bit of existential horror that completely re-contextualizes the entire movie, making it terrifying in a whole new way.
As a side note, I'd also like to point out that 'The Thing' was pretty popular in Japan, to the point that a character heavily inspired by it appears in Yoshitoh Asari's delightful slice-of-life sci fi manga 'Space Family Carlvinson' - A friendly alien in the shape of a dog who can transform into all manner of horrifying monstrosities, and who just loves making movies filled to the brim with body horror. What's this alien's name, you ask? "John Carpenter"
Murder on the Planet Express the Futurama episode is my favourite adaptation of this story
This ^ I love it, too.
YES YES YES!!!!! FINALLY. I’VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS ONE!!!
Dominic's reaction is exactly how I feel about watching most horror movies. When I watched this one for the first time a few months ago I found it pretty cool but the scene with the dogs nearly made me turn it off. Did it's job though, I was scared nearly the entire movie. So...go Carpenter. Nice work.
First: The book was okay, the movie was awesome being gory was the 80's credo
Second: You forgot the ending of the movie was ambiguous as hell. That Childs is possibly infected by the thing
It's entirely possible that both of them are at that point.
As far as me & my brother are concerned, Childs is DEFINITELY the Thing. Mac is probably still human.
@@ThieflyChap between the lack of visible breath, and the drinking of what might be a molotov, it seems pretty clear that Childs is no longer Childs
@@dragonheart1236 No, the breath thing is has been debunked
There is a nice short story called Things by Peter Watts that somewhat expands the movie.
I've both read the book and watched the movie and thought I'd add a bit more food for thought from my analysis.
The movie is famous for portraying the sociology of a group in distress. It shows how coherence and teamwork can be pushed aside given panic, risk, and isolation.
The book sort of portays this too, but I feel it was emphasizing a different theme. The contrast between our terrestrial reasoning and an extraterrestrial reality. The review mentioned Campbell's boring rant about the space ship and how everyone's talks weird. Although true, I think this was entirely on purpose to propose a certain idea. The characters are always using reason.
Reason is one of the most human traits there is. It is how we learn and make decisions. The character's in the book took time to use reasoning to figure out the age of alien and how it got to where it was.
But more importantly, it was reason that led to the alien's escape. They determined that it was impossible for any advanced creature to survive being frozen. That is just a universal law that we have deducted. There was also discussion of alien diseases, but they again reasoned that such diseases couldn't infect a human. Many organic diseases can't infect a human, how could an alien disease.
However, both of these attempts at reason are what led to the team underestimating the thing. It thus came alive and the events of the book play out.
There is a part of the story where the characters mention how a man looked at a bird, but could not fly without learning and designing their own way. Our advances as a society are only possible because we use reasoning to make them possible. The monster does not do this. It just imitates the bird.
This is all to say that the thing does not reason like we do. It's smart, sure, but it does not "reason." And that's what makes Campbell's version of the monster seem different to me. It isn't just scary because it can hide in plain sight, like in the movie. It's also scary because it lacks reason. It defies reason. And if it defies reason, it defies man itself. The Thing acts as an antithesis to humanity.
Sure, the monster in the movie is essentially the same, but the book laid groundwork for the monster to be more.
Although, man's ability to reason led them to trust too strongly in earthly laws, it was still reason that stopped the monster. No matter how otherworldly, rules still apply and man can learn them. They learned the new rules and used them to find a test. Reason was applied to the extraterrestrial. And like how we learned to fly, we learned to fight back the monster and win.
Am I overanalyzing? Near undoubtedly. But is it still an interesting interpretation? I think so.
Fun Fact: One of the reasons Asimov wrote so much about robots was so he could avoid Campbell’s rule about how humans are always superior to aliens.
I'm still waiting for Phantom of the Opera
which one?
2004
That's coming soon, just not yet
the 50s one is my favourite. Although the one from 1925 had the best makeup
Wish granted you get a triple episode
Have you ever considered doing a "Lost in adaptation" of Felidae, "A novel of cats and murder?"
John carpenter The Thing is one of my all time favourite movies
I kind of always assumed the Thing didn't rampage because outside of mimiced forms, it seemed... slow, if not immobile. Power and reach to an extent, but relying on almost random mutation and being stuck as a goo blob.
In any case, gah just so good to see the 3 versions of this story be talked about like this.
One of my favorite movies with two of my favorite people. An excellent collaboration.
Dom: I don't like this author because he's a racist
Also Dom: Let me praise H.P. Lovercraft
I'm not saying HP Lovecraft is bad writer I'm just saying you can't hate one author's work solely on the fact that he's a racist for one and not the other. It's called consistency.
At least Lovecraft became less racist later in his life.
@@AlbinoAxolotl1993 Lets be honest. everyone is racist, its only to what degree is acceptable at the time.
Dom did call out Lovecraft though, when he mentioned that John Campbell took inspiration from Lovecraft. He says that they're both racist, I don't think there is a bit where he praises lovecraft.
@@pyromasteralex Jesus fucking christ...
I know your feelings Dom. I cannot watch scary movies because I will be jumping at Shadows for the next three days.
Thanks for covering this topic. I enjoy your videos immensely. I hope you get to make them.
The Fly is some prime Jeff Goldblum doing his Jeff Goldblum thing. Good on you for braving your way through The Thing!
Love the thing, the practical effects are still stunning to this day
Campbell's racism was part of him being an enlightened Progressive is an era when the science of eugenics was settled for all properly thinking intellectuals. One wonders what beliefs considered enlightened today will be condemned by future generations.
Fun fact: there is a video game rated E FOR EVERYONE that has quite a few similarities to the movie. AND ITS A NINTENDO GAME. It’s Metroid Fusion
With this being based off a short story, I'm rather interested to see what you'd think of Candyman, another adaptation of a horror story done really well. Worth a watch if only for the soundtrack as well.
The “It’s not a dog! It’s not a dog!” in Norwegian was a brilliant touch after I learnt what he was yelling
I fail to see why the politics of a man long dead should have any bearing on the enjoyment of a work of fiction.
Yeah, even without adhering to the "Death of the author"-mindset, a work should stand and fall on its own.
I was a very easily scared kid for most of my life. I honestly have no clue what changed cuz I freaking LOVE me a good horror movie nowadays! The Thing is probably the best horror movie ever made, so the fact that you made it through the whole thing (teehee 😏) earns you serious street cred in my book.
I think that you can enjoy someone’s work without their personal views and things they’ve done bothering you, if we can’t do that we wouldn’t be able to watch most movies, Hollywood is FULL of pieces of shit
Agreed.
That's fair lol
i've tried to get my brother to watch this movie for years, now he just leaves the room whenever i bring it up
Now I want a review of Cronenberg's The Fly. 😊
18:45. No mention that MacCready was based on pulp hero Doc Savage, technically making it a fanfic?
I have seen this episode multiple times and I just realized a glaring plot hole in the book if the ship was made of magnessium it would have burned up as soon as it breached earth atmosphere
Guessing Campbell isn't responsible for that stupidity.
Dom, I totally feel you. I can't handle much horror either. The only exceptions being Us and Get Out because those are fantastic movies.
Imo Get out is much much muuuuuuch better than Us. Us is an extremely mediocre movie
Before watching The Thing, a friend of mine told me "Careful, it's pretty gory" and I was like, I'm an adult, I can handle it ; besides, the movie is from the 80s, the effects can't be that scary.
Then the dogs scene happened...
I still really cannot understand how people can live so skittish and sheltered, that they can't handle a fictional onscreen story that simply makes them feel a basic human emotion.
4:12 - 4:20 And this is the moment I fell in love with this channel.
The times when Dom is preachy sour his videos. I get why he does it, and I'm glad people find comfort in that, but maybe don't view any content that is of what you don't like. If you don't like stories made by problematic people, don't read about them. Don't like movies of specific genres, don't watch them. Don't like certain channels because they have content or personalities that you don't vibe with, don't check them out.
13:20 "The sheer amount of heavy fire arms available to these [American] 'scientists' seems a little excessive..."
Oh you adorable adorable non-American. That's just... so cute.
Technically having firearms on the continent is illegal. That said the flamethrowers are both acceptable and commonly used. The book was from before flamethrowers existed so it didn't have any.
Awwww, the Dom is so cute in this one! Also, weirdly, his elbows are more defined in the greenscreen and never noticed it before.... weird. Love the cohost, adorable and creative way to integrate the two channels. Love it! Want her beanie.
I actually love the 1950s Thing From Another World. A great comradery amongst the cast, great set design, and James Arness is fantastic as the monster. Plus I'm a sucker for that 50s sci-fi aesthetic. The John Carpenter version I might see eventually but in addition to being squeamish to the gore that I've seen clips of, I've heard its rather downbeat and kind of nihilistic in some ways, and that's not really my cup of tea. I'll most likely see it but I don't know if I'll like it (hopefully I'll be surprised)
Everyone was a racist or a sexist or homophobic or a combination during that time period. Which is why I get mad when people label someone one of these things or a combination them when NONE of them apply.
Hmm I wonder if he'll ever do a review with krimson rogue.
YES PLEAS!
They’d be too powerful. The world was collapse. I’d love to see it though
I always wanted him to do a crossover with Linkara, especially since they seem to be friends.
@@jordandehart6905 they reviewed watchmen together.
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"The sheer amount of heavy firearms available to these scientists seems a little exessive"
"Maybe they were worried about Wompoas"
"Maybe they were Americans"
, hey dom, love your work! I was wondering if you could do the spider Wick chronicles from 2008
The movie creeped me the fuck out as a kid
Those books were so good. They deserved a better adaptation.
@@claudiaryan7974 I completely agree they whittled down the story so much it's hardly recognizable
Fun fact: the original form of the thing was given a visual in a science magazine comic that Linkara reviewed, and it was almost adorable. It looks like a large plush doll.
0:40 you included Prince of Darkness in that list of classics you have forever earned my respect
John Carpenter's The Thing...honestly it's one of the best horror and sc-fi movie ever and a landmark in practical effects...Also a great psychological movie ! Also fun fact, the original Thing movie appear in Halloween !