The Rich Misers Sir Hervey and John Elwes
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
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Eccentricity has always fascinated the English, and the trait of miserliness has been of particular fascination to people in the past and in the present. In this video, I look at the extraordinary lives of uncle and nephew Sir Hervey and John Elwes, who, in the eighteenth century, took the self-mortifying effects of penny-pinching to an extreme. Men like these were the influence on Charles Dickens in his creation of his character Ebenezer Scrooge in a Christmas Carol of 1843.
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Fantastic !!, I plan to watch the wonderful Alastair Sims as the 1951 version of Scrooge (the best I believe) on Xmas Day.
Thank you so much for these wonderful mini-lectures. I am immensely enjoying your whole catalogue. Have a joyous and blessed Christmas!
Tonight I will be watching my favorite rendition of Christmas Carol with Allister Simms. Merry Christmas from Texas
Ooof, the cartoonish hook noses to denote miserliness! Fascinating as always, and I had to stop the video to read the hilarious captions in the drawing of the man sitting with his pants down.
Thank you, Allan. Such great stories!! I enjoy all your stories. Merry Christmas at all of you.
Thank you - we were very pleased to receive your card! Happy Christmas.
Superb, thank you for introducing me to these characters! 😊
Can't wait for the 2024 episode....
Thanks Allen!
have a wonderful Christmas!
Thank you and you too.
You quite often hear about people today who for decades lived frugal, often solitary, lives, but leave small fortunes in their wills. I can't see the psychology behind it myself.
A perfect companion story to Dickens' a Christmas Carol! Thanks so much for all your stories and rambles this year Allan. Wishing you the very best of the season. Many blessings to you and your family for 2024 and beyond.
Money does strange things to people, especially to those who have lots of it. Very sad story really 😢
Thank you, Allan.
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Hi Allan! Hervey and John are most certainly worthy of being included in the miser series on this channel.
Happy Christmas Dr. Allan ❤
Thank you Jill and you too.
What a crazy story! Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sir Harvey declining to testify against the robbers-the issue probably was a refusal to leave his house/enter a public forum.
didnt want to pay a lawyer
I happen to know someone like either of these two, Allan. This woman has caught my attention for a long while now. There is, seemingly, no coercing her to live "according to her means". Thanks for this wonderful bit of English history!
Absolutely fascinating, thank you very much Allan, wishing you a very happy and unmiserly Christmas!
What a story. All that money and not wanting to spend it is just weird to me.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours. 🎄🎅👼
Wishing you and your family a lovely Christmas and a happy new year x
What a story. I think also the drawings tell the story. The expressions of the faces are magnificent. Martha
Merry Christmas to you and family. You bring much knowledge and happiness, to me and others.
Remarkable story! Thank you
My uncle is just like these men... sitting on well over $1M and feels absolutely awful about throwing out a moldy piece of bread. Balance is better than suffering because you're afraid to lose. I think he'd still have the money if he allowed himself something halfway-decent once in a while. Thank you for a relatable story :). Have a great holiday!
Thanks, Allan. Very enjoyable.
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
Thank you for such a wonderful story and for the wonderful cartoon illustrations. It is quite sad really as both men had more than enough money, yet seemed to chastise themselves for having it. Sir Hervey even let off the thieves who stole from him. The burden of large amounts of money has not worked out for either of them. The great fear of poverty was greater than their ability to enjoy their wealth. Must be a play in there somewhere! Thanks for sharing Allan and I wish you and your family comfort and joy at Christmas time. God bless.
Merry christmas, Allan great story
Thanks Allan, a very interesting video
My goodness, the period art! Were Elwes portraits common? Why would anyone want characters of themselves? I'm hoping for them to be newspapers art making fun of them.
The illustrations are in pamphlets and articles about them - though I believe there is a portrait somewhere of John Elwes. He was certainly distinctive.
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Thank you for many happy hours of informative yet entertaining presentations. Wishing you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a Happy 2024, from Oxford.
Wishing you and your family a VERY Blessed Christmas and A Happy New Year!! Thanks for the fantastic videos!! 🎄👍💗💞
Thank you, Allan. I enjoy exploring the character-filled illustrations while you tell the stories.
You have a fabulous channel and I look forward to more in 2024. Best Wishes 🎄✨
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I should do that - I am lax. Thank you very much indeed for your kind words.
Hope you have joyous and blessed Christmas. And thank you.
Merry Christmas to all!
Happy Christmas Nicki
Interesting psychologically. Refusal to spend money on yourself indicates extreme insecurity, anxiety and low self esteem. I know people personally today that live without heating or any comfort while sitting on a comfortable nest egg that could supply a comfortable life and any gifts to them invariably get stashed away "for a rainy day" that never comes . I dont see it as miserliness, It's to do with being brought up by insecure parents with a Puritanical horror of being beholden to anyone else and being a burden and an equal horror of appearing vulgarly grandiose and self indulgent. Such people will never ask for help, even in extremis, because of the good name of the family or whatever. Conversely theyre often very generous to charities and other people while doing without any luxury for themselves
Blow me, I knew Denman College was the WI place, no idea of its history. Did the other illegitimate son get the other estate I wonder. Thanks for the video.
I believe he died young. I’m not entirely sure the subsequent history of Clare college, I should look into it.
I know someone with similar traits, although not so extreme. No amount of rationalisation dents his belief that he is poor and must be frugal. Can't get my head around it.
Isn't actor Carey Elwes related to John Elwes? I think I read it somewhere, but I cannot remember where. Perhaps it was an interview given. I just cannot recall exactly.
When Adam delved and Eve span, who was then the gentleman?
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It is ironic, for the Elder Elwes should be laudable for his success in turning a debt into a profit by sacrificing his own comfort. Many a greedy person would abuse others while seeking to live above their needs or means, but not Elwes. However, by making an idol of his coins, Elwes instead squandered his true wealth, the life he had, and has become a tragic figure to be pitied. One hopes that his story has inspired others to seek the Narrow Path.
I make no comment on Suffolk misers 😂. I am aware the Stoke by Clare church has a very small pulpit
That made me chuckle Chris. Just had a look on Simon Knott's Suffolk churches page and I see the pulpit is a bit tight - given my height and girth I would struggle in it. Lovely old pulpit though.
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Oh my goodness the 3 profile portraits of John Elwes are all so distorted and elongated in the face. What was going on there?
Hoarding physical items is now a recognised mental health disorder, I suspect there is something similar going on here.
Wood is never "free" even when you own the forest as you could always sell it so it has a price 🤔
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What's wrong with them being misers. Society is full of different character I often use one of those little cigarette rollers to make a tea bag last a few seasons
Weird guys.
Yep.
I don't know why you find their lifestyle so odd.! They ate the best diet humans can eat (see the latest research which will probably give them 10 out of 10), they rightly thought that throwing money needlessly on things was a waste and interestingly they grew their money Whilst they were caretakers of it and passed it on to others. They had kind hearts and we are not malicious to those who had been malicious to them and asked for not being fashionable well done them. I see great merit in their lifestyles as long as they weren't mean to other people?.
I've had a great-aunt who was just like zem. She had lotz and lotz of German Marks in her bank account but she was ze towns biggest cheapskate.
Frohe Weinachten.
Che schifo