The $7.6 Trillion Quest for Longer Life
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2022
- The new field of longevity science aims to slow aging and make late-life more livable. But will the science ever work? And if so, will it only be for the super rich?
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If you could spend money to live longer, how much would you be willing to spend?
1 mil -2 mil
Not a cent, I can achieve the same through meditation. Man is asleep. He must awaken to his inner nature, immortality is not outside, it’s within.
Most than longer , I would spend to be guaranteed an active independent life until the end .
How expensive?
6 bucks
A daily tablet to keep me physically 25 years old for the rest of my life would be nice.
It'll probably be more like a series of injections every five to ten years or so, but yeah.
@@thegoodlydragon7452 It'd probably be a LOT more invasive and painful than that for the first couple of decades. Also as the years tick by you'd get in diminishing returns. More treatments for less and less gain, to a point where such therapeutics stop working altogether.
@@mlc4495 No. As the time goes on the technology will evolve and the treatments will get better and cheaper.
I think main reason a lot of us are “unhealthy” is simple from the way we eat. We’d live a lot longer by simply fixing that.
@@ursusursidae3527 it will lol people like you said ban light bulb because it challenge the gods then what happened.
I would say that by curing aging, you eliminate the extraordinary cost of prolonging life in an ICU, so, it is certainly not only for the rich, since ordinary people are already paying extraordinary cost.
Plus the illnesses associated with aging have a huge economic impact removing those could reallocate that money to other issues that need solving. Plus a longer living healthy youthful civilisation creates a longer living, healthy and youthful workforce, everyone wins!
Take Pfizer vaccines for immorality.
Maybe considering...the elimination of all ICUs so the moment people get really sick- they die very quickly... which would leave only the luckiest and the strongest behind ... Darwin's Awards would accelerate human evolution by forcing survival of the fittest ... rejecting profit oriented health care aka restricted access to expensive health care otherwise leads to .... survival of the richest.
Turns out dying is very expensive.
@@Batmangutten so very expensive my guy , welcome to 2023 i guess lol
I like that they're focusing on 'healthspan' rather than 'lifespan'. I work in pharmacy and it's a constantly depressing reality that most of our medicine just stops you being technically dead well beyond the point at which you became a shambling corpse. Devoid of any memories or independence of any kind. Constantly confused by the world around you and needing meds to constantly sedate you. Being too feeble to open a door or even shamble out of it in under 10 minutes if someone else holds it open for you. But, hey, your heart is still technically beating so you're technically alive. Hooray.
Healthspan all the way. We need a paradigm shift. I don't want to turn into a shambling zombie when I'm older. If we don't get the tech done in my lifetime, definitely assisted suicide for me.
yeah it shame when doctors try to keep burn victims alive or self inflicted shotgun forever sleep victims with missing face kept alive. Like just let the person die already, my gosh.
No, i'll just give you another 20 years off(life sentence)
The idea you are carrying is torturing you may say what can we do about it? it's the reality but what if it's not?
That's exactly what happen to my grandma before she died at 96. We don't know if she could hear us and her eye closed the whole time, her body did not move since weeks... i dunno how others think but I dont want to LIVE in that state
very salient point, thank you. but nevertheless, live your life,
It would be so nice if we could make old people younger and healthier
My cousin Effie is 101 yrs old today with full facilties. She is active and dances to Greek music.
Yeah. And imagine if your cousin could dance at 201 years old . Oh no that's evil! I'm a close-minded idiot that's the mindset of literally half these idiots that are being interviewed. If you could stop disease and aging until you decided you wanted to end your life on your own terms and live out a natural lifespan once you stop taking the drug? That's a better alternative to war, famine, disease, hunger, so on and so forth. But, some people are just narrow-minded. Congratulations to your cousin by the way
it seems no one is giving any credit to aubrey de grey for being at the forefront of this and popularizing it and making it a science, outlining the guidelines, doing the fundamentals...I don't know if he was the first(I thought of it before I knew he existed, but the man did the friggin work on it as well as his assistants, and even still, he probably came up with it before I was born) but the man seems to have been completely scrubbed from all the "history" videos.
Hoping to live long enough to enjoy such amazing breakthroughs
I’m a big fan of the Longevity subreddit.
Go Bezos! And hurry up. Time is killing us all.
Time waits for no man!
3:41 grimacing "i love this"
I think becoming a billionaire comes along the way when working towards leaving a legacy which is really a thought for after death. I would personally like two to three life times with quality health assured, I feel I could do a lot in this amount of time and the world would feel familiar and fair.
Lies again? LA Liga QNB
I love this approach to health and I wish I could of had this treatment from my early post pubescent age so I could have stayed as healthy and fresh as possible compared to the now comparatively broken down state I'm now currently in.
this is fitting, because i just started looking into the topic... quicktake once again on point, much thanks
Almost every new technology was in the beginning only available to the rich.
But that was the thing that drew money into it's further development that later caused it to be available to everyone.
If it wasn't for the rich early adopter, they would be available to everyone at all.
This is one breakthrough that they would never share.
I have to be honest, govt's COULD invest in this. But they are too obsessed with the "ethical ramifications" of preventing people from dying and suffering. It is OUR responsibility to vote their keisters out of office. If that doesn't happen - of course the investment will be private.
I agree. They would rather have us all dead and suffering from old age.
Don't forget that emotions affect our health as well. Increasing stress for example can affect our hormones that may negatively affect our body. Stress can be environmental and/or internal. I don't think a preventive longevity pill is going to solve that.
I don't ever recall reading about efforts to create a one-size-fits-all life extending super pill. I was always under the impression the direction of life extension was personalized medicine based on our specific genetic makeup with targeted gene therapy like CRISPR when needed.
Could be we'll see a bit of both. Lots of things go wrong in aging, and they all need their own solutions. For some, we might get treatments that work really well and that we can just give everyone in the same form. For some, we might initially get treatments that only barely work and that need expensive personalization to do anything useful.
There is a one size fits all life extension therapy/treatment which has been know for decades and normally can extend a lifespan from 20 to 30 percent.. It is really affordable and can be used any where in the world too.
@@ResidualSelfImage And what would that be?
Thanks
The average poor live shorter lives and the average rich live longer lives. Most of the science about living longer and better does not focus on the economics of living longer.... The impact of prolong life in poverty has not been addressed.
5:07 actually it make more than perfect sense buddy
I know Google's Calico is doing this work but I wish this video gave more company names.
I don't know why they showed so much Elon Musk when I think he doesn't have a lifespan extending company. (Maybe Bloomberg is trying to frame him with all the bad images lol.)
Still, pretty nice and interesting video. Thank you for the video.
The longevity drug they are looking for is already here… it’s called exercise! 💪
Lol
You'll probably not even make back the amount of time you spend in the gym if exercise is your longevity drug
@@phenotypeb6843 Very true.
Lots of rich people already do that.
I would LOVE to LIVE LONGER
Imagine be 20yo all your life
It's about Living healthier in 80s like you are in 30s.
Also in your 250s with your 5th career enjoying every second of life because you finally have the life experience to know yourself deeply and what makes you happy/content.
@@jimj2683 This is wonderful thinking, but I think it'd be pretty funny if after 250 years... you realize nothing makes you happy.
Depends on if I could guarantee a healthy active longer life. I have a lot of health issues that cause severe pain. I know it will only get worse. If my pain could be handled (which I can't afford to do as most of the things doctors are suggesting that I haven't done already aren't covered by insurance & I work for a non-profit so I don't make bank) then I'd pay a ton to live longer. But how much longer? Maybe I'd only pay if I got a guaranteed extra 5+ healthy years of life.
I have no idea what your pain issues are…but believing they will get worse will definitely make them worse. I’ve had chronic pain for the past three years and have finally gotten past the worst of it, mostly due to self belief. Never give up on positive thinking.
Yes, in reality, anti-aging will mean longer health. That's why they talk about healthspan. The same process that makes you eventually "die of old age" is the process that creates all the "diseases of old age". So by tackling that process you are directly tackling those health issues that come with getting older.
As long as it'll be affordable for absolutely everyone yes we should be using biotech to extend youthful life. We should be aiming to slow down aging past 25-35 and double life expectancy especially if we are serious about becoming a multiplanetary species. Death is unavoidable but aging isn't not even in nature. There are multiple creatures that don't age beyond their prime for example lobsters. Regenerative stem cell biotech & gene editing should also be a key priority.
We need to solve our energy problem before that.
It will get affordable, the only question is how long it will take.
@@maheshrathod5593 We have to do both simultaneously. The energy problem is solvable within this decade it's just that govts and big oil will try to slow down things like green hydrogen and large scale thermal energy storage systems that can solve the variability & storage challenges of renewables. However consumer ready products for slowing down age will take decades to hit the shelf unless there is some insane breakthrough.
@@a.forbes133 It will take many decades.
If we want to so drastically slow aging then limits on new births will be needed
As a heath economist I find the topic very interesting, but most of the things the people interviewed say is kinda approximative about the current health care system.. or at least they are in the way they described it, preventive medicine is not a new thing, things like screening are not always beneficial, preventive drugs like statins already exist and are not new at all in the health care system, also QALY evaluation is about increasing quality-adjusted life years, not something new.. that said the topic is very interesting and it does require some important re-thinking.. however I do not find the people describing the challenge to be prepared enough to discuss it.. I am a bit disappointed with bloomberg in this case..
Very interesting topic, even though stats are showing that the lifespan is declining.
If a longevity drug isn't regulated by the FDA, then it would be considered a supplement. It should therefore be cheaper to manufacture because of lesser regulation. I believe that a supplement can be patented. Ask me how.
What can you do about my hairloss?
Living longer is great, however we should be pushing the envelope on research to improving psychological therapeutics to make living longer FUN.
Fully agreed 🍄
That's exactly what healthspan means - the part of your life where you can live in a fun way, not constrained by health issues!
Science can only help with the physical aspect of health, it's up to the individuals willpower to manifest their ideal of "fun" in their life. Unless you want everyone hooked on SOMA, of course.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no Physical health is a to a large part prerequisite to fun, quantitatively at least.
The mind isn't a concrete object that you can shape with a drug or physical treatment. State of mind can only be treated by the individual who must find purpose in life and a way to overcome life adversities.
What about just being able to prevent arthritis for example?
Vai ser reversível e evitável
Why are you showing Elon? He publicly said he is an opponent of such ideas and he’s not invested into any of longevity firms.
Thanks, you beat me to it. The stock footage creates the wrong impression.
Because it's Bloomberg.
If you do not live longer how can you expect to change the world With futuristic innovations?
Build strong ageless beautiful sustainable solarpunk immortal utopian resilient safer future without aging diseases old age mortality sickness and death
Make humans and animals young and immortal
If this actually happens. I’m sure the company will sell it as a subscription 😂 10 million per month
I think it'll be more like a water bill. You die without water, but it's by no means out of reach for ordinary people --- I mean you pour gallons of it on yourself every day or every other day. Multiple companies provide it. As medicine becomes an information technology, the price of it will plummet literally exponentially.
It will get cheaper over time like any widespread tech.
Would still be worth it...
One thing that should've been mentioned in the video is that we really need to develop longevity drugs because the population of the whole world is aging pretty fast and will start leveling off soon. If we don't, the already pressed healthcare and pension systems will start breaking down with more and more people aging and requiring a lot of support (something like 2/3 of healthcare expenses are spent on people over 55, and current drugs are not solving or at least addressing the core issue - damage accumulation caused by aging resulting in many kinds of chronic age-related diseases).
People need to start taking better care of their own health and younger generations need to do a better job taking care of their aging parents and grandparents like it has been done for thousands of years long before their was healthcare. Shocking concept!
@@MrSupernova111 Unfortunately, that's not going to be even remotely enough. The demographic change coming is unprecedented in the history of the planet, this is the first time there are more people that are aged 65+ compared to kids aged under 5, and this trend is only accelerating. If you think there will be enough people in younger generations to take care of the older generations, I have a bridge to sell you.
@@BetterFutureYT . If you think formal healthcare is going to solve changes in social structure I have bridge to sell you! You can't reverse time and you can't stop people from dying.
@@MrSupernova111 No, I don't think formal heathcare is going to solve those changes, that's why I am advocating for geroscience and longevity approach focused on the root issues causing age-related diseases. It's not necessary to reverse time or stop people from dying completely, not sure how you came to that conclusion.
@@BetterFutureYT . Most humans forget that we live in the world with finite resources. No amount of wonder pills is going to change that. The earth will reclaim what belongs to her one way or the other. The only solution is to stop reproducing like rabbits and take better care of ourselves and our environment. Also, assisted suicide should be part of the solution as nobody wants to spend the last few years going insane due to illness.
This video makes the argument that everybody will be able afford life-enhancing treatments, not only the super-rich. That's because, the argument goes, such treatments will take the form of pills or injections. But what if life-enhancement requires ultra-personalised treatments? Cancer treatment is super expensive, so why should life-enhancement not be?
Like everything new it will be expensive and low quality at first, but the gradually become much cheaper and better over time.
Or would you rather these treatments never get developed? If the treatments actually are very effective, they will be paid for by our taxes, because keeping old people healthy and productive will save our societies trillions of dollars.
@@jimj2683 What is being described here is utopia. When has utopia ever existed, and what are the chances of it ever existing? When in world history has everyone ever been able to afford the best of everything? Never. When has the price of cars or cancer drugs come down significantly in the past 30 years? Never. The technology has improved but the prices stayed the same, at best. And I can go on about many other goods and services, the story stays the same. 5:12 ❝It doesn't make sense to make something that only a few billionaires can afford.❞ How does it make sense to exponentially aggravate the population explosion issue? If everyone lives 100s of years, then radical birth control policies must also be put in place. Also, my core argument about the difference between product and service remains unanswered. Price reductions in services are rare compared to products. How likely is it that life extension will be super affordable if a highly qualified medical team must work on you for months or years? Never. I hope radical life extension will be a thing sooner rather than later, and I hope I'll be able to afford it, but I won't be so naive as to think that the world owes me 100s of years of life, any more than it owes me a billionaire superyacht.
Would it be accurate to call a longevity drug as a performance enhancing drug? And thus, is in a class of drugs that are now illegal in the USA?
It will be expensive to begin, but the cost will collapse over a 5 -10 year period. Any government would offset how much it would cost to have the person age in a "normal" sense.
@@kilianmio6243 It would be down to choice you don't have to be treated.
A wonder drug to extend longevity will never be allowed for the masses. The wealthy will never allow it.
@@fatboydim.7037 The government could force you to take Magic Age Pills ᵀᴹ so you simply not be a burden on the economy or work force. Nothing says it has to be an option...
That will never stop people from taking their own lives of course tho
The road to advanced technology to achieve immortality and immortal youth is long and hard. Every step forward helps. That includes all YOUR work in pharmacy. So, yes - all these drugs are a NECESSARY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT STEP along that path toward a glorious future. I thank you for your service.
Silly rabbit, don't "we" know "we" are "mortals" for a reason; however, living healthy and being able to take care of ourselves is definitely OK until the day "we" pass away.
"Age better, live longer" - I like that but, should be, age less, live longer...😁
As Man Becomes Machine - David M. Rorvik (1978)
Despite it potentially being trillions of dollar saved, it only has 3 billion dollars invested. We need to help spread recognition in longevity.
My start-up's treatment is potentially $40 per day. You just knew the treatment would come from out of left field...
"it doesn't make sense to make something expensive for a handful of people when you could make it cheap for everyone." yeah, this kinda ignores the entirety of the healthcare industry that already exists... life saving drugs are already super expensive, I gurantee that a drug capable of making you biologically immortal, even if it's super cheap to make, will still be super expensive, it may be covered by insurance, MAYBE, but it'll still be expensive.
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The authors seem oblivious of how insulin prices are being hiked in the US
If a ton of money is spent to develop a drug won't it have to cost a lot to recoup the investment? Zolgensma for instance
He meant to say PONCE DE LEÓN lol (it's not french dude, spanish)
Can’t wait for my 999th birthday!!!!
Shivambu. Iykyk.
I do like the healthspan but if longer life span could be achieved how long could be live? I think immortality is pretty possible
People might do better to maximize healthful choices and mental potential in the life they have rather than worrying about how to party into immortality.
Singularity in our lifetime
governments will happily pay for your medical if you work an extra 50 years paying taxes, you get an extra 50 years of life so worth it
The last part of the video talking abojt healthspan and how it is impossible to avoid death,basically contradicts all the rrst of the video. The idea IS actually to prevent death and extend life indefinetly. Its not decades away,that's lineal thinking. It's much much closer, especially considering AI
Rejuvenation of immune system , Through "maturation phase transient reprogramming , could prolong healthy life span .
Rejuvenated immune system is key to keeping senescent cells at bay.
Yep, Greg Fahy’s thyroid regeneration has demonstrated that quite well.
Pills to help us die would be fine. But eternal life?! This is torture 😢 😫
Torture? With such poor thinking as yours, certainly. You have to be really crazy not to want to live much longer, and who knows, maybe even forever.
Tam 818?
Die? Nah. Health span, LifeSpan, Reverse Aging and transhumanism? Yes
YOUR HELI, OR PRIVATE
JET FELL DOWN
Medmorfin extends life by 15 years.
Thy should make sum, make us all live on earth not die, 🙏
"Health span."
... . . . ... . . . BE VERY CAREFULL OF WHAT YOU WISH FOR . . . ...
...
... YOU MIGHT GET IT.
we are already gonna have 10 billion people on the planet
The earth is huge, we’ll be fine
Government’s are not willing to invest in this so without billionaire funding it would never be possible otherwise.
Government funds lots of research..I'm guessing you didn't go to school?
facts
Ha! Lots of people are talking about lifespan. They just don't want to spook anyone with that talk.
I've prepared my Bezos shrine in advance
the human life span can reach 155 years.
"Everyone says that this is just for rich people, but this will transfer to everyone because... uh... I guess the pills will eventually only cost a fraction of a penny to make - it doesn't make sense to make it expensive!"
- Someone who presumably lives in the same country where insulin costs over $300 per vial and an emergency appointment in a hospital can bankrupt the average uninsured person.
Yeah. It's incredible how they believe those multi-billionaires who have selfishly lived a life time of hording vast quantities of wealth, will suddenly become charitable and share all the things that give them more power, money and control, things like longer life spans.
Exactly!!...This comment needs to be higher up
What about your smartphone?
$300 isn't that much though. Just do well in school and you will have that kind of money also.
80 years average, for a modern industrialized country, does not sound like a very long time. I suspect, some of the wealthier, are living to 90s, while lower class people are probably dying in their 60's or even younger.
Not necessarily so. A lot of older wealthy people are in incredibly poor health due to a life time of poor lifestyle choices, they just have bottomless pits of money to provide themselves the best healthcare so as to eke out a few more years.
I depends on lifestyle.. of course rich people can theoretically afford a better lifestyle but it depends
Probably why they may statistically live longer
@@MuantanamoMobile Old age will destroy your body even if you have a perfect lifestyle. My parents have been eating and exercising perfectly for their entire lives, yet they are now 80 and have tons of health issues.
Less vaccines more thought and more food and people can live 200 years.
"If you increase your health-span you just might increase your life-span..." Or you can die of a heart attack at 55 during your morning jog. It happens all the time!
That's called anecdotal evidence. People should think in terms of probabilities and likelihoods and not anecdotes.
These are the type of people working for big pharma, then there is another group of people that are working for humanity and they want lifespan, longevity, and longevity escape velocity (sinclair, degrey, diamandis, church, Kurzweil, ect...The later will leapfrog the first group in 5-10 years. I would recommend anyone or group that doesnt want to accomplish age reversal needs a restructuring of their focus and beliefs
You are in longevity science yet trying very hard to state it focuses on health span not life span. I don't understand, is it socially unacceptable to increase life span?
The understanding is that increase to healthspan would increase lifespan. How much we don’t really know but it should be a tangible side effect before you add on other stuff like regeneration therapy/medicine and so on.
Yes. It is socially unacceptable to increase lifespan. The world is weird. The same skeptics will come crawling back when they are old to get this treatment.
120 years
I'm pretty sure that if a secret to eternal youth is discovered it won't be in a form of a pill/injection.
The longevity drug they are looking for is already here… it’s called exercise!
Take mushrooms then you realize it’s okay to die
I wish more thought was put into how to live happier lives
get some biches that will help
Around the 7 minute mark he talks about healthcare switching from reactive to proactive . A drug that will help reduce those diseases ......
Exercise and nutrition professionals be like "are we a joke to you" .....as far as we know we can't put exercise or nutrition in a pill albeit as much as we try .
Movement is so inherently human you have to do it unfortunately 😳🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃
Maybe its just inflation affecting this old brain but $2 billion doesnt seem like all that much. I could really go for another decimal place. 7.6 trillion $ market you say?
Putting Elon into this clip was a mistake. He's actually against life extension.
No he is okay with it but has concerns about not allowing new humans into the population.
explain how ?
Self regulation of human species at it finest
Daría cualquier cosa por ser joven eternamente 😊
I plan to clone myself.
too life
The 9 Hallmarks of Aging
Stop pushing the BS about "this technology will only be for billionaires".
Wrong. That is a CHOICE if you let it. In reality, billions others will want it and pay varying amounts for this technology, too.
At the minute the rich are engaging in stem cells therapy to stay younger
25% of my pre tax income
Get me the serum
so, eternal life when?
My best bet is in at least 50 years, but probably more like 200 years.
why are you showing elon musk as billionaire he has litteraly spoken out against longevity science
Why not just eat a healthy diet and exercise?
Why not do both?
How would the brain contain information if we lived forever
We're already forgetting tons of things all the time and psychologically handling it just fine. The past would just keep getting more distant and irrelevant to us over time and we'd forget the parts that we don't care about, just as we do now.
There are some transhumanists who don't like that, and think we should keep growing (in the very literal sense of adding more IQ and more capacity to remember things) over time, and, well, maybe. IMO it's something we can start thinking about once we have aging licked first.
the cloud
We will probably upload our memories to a system like a cloud
Just exercise, get enough sleep and eat a balanced diet high in fibre. Problem solved
Why do you have so much more footage of Musk than Thiel and Bezos when he's not even involved in the space at all?