South Africa education law: Afrikaans-speaking groups fear erosion of language
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- A new education law in South Africa is dividing opinions in a country with a complex racial history.
Afrikaans-speaking groups say sections of the new law will erode their language and culture.
The government says the measures will make education accessible to more children.
Al Jazeera’s Haru Mutasa reports from Centurion.
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The law makes so that schools are forced to ADD another language if they are located in areas where most kids from the surrounding communities don't speak the current language of instruction. No one is saying they must stop teaching in Afrikaans
I literally just came from another comment where a young black South African is saying exactly that. He took it one step further and demanded the ethnic cleansing of all groups who use Afrikaans.
Personally I am done trying to coexist.. Give me a way to go to Europe and give me a job, and I will be gone. This is the case for most Afrikaans speaking South Africans. We love the part of this country that us about unity, democracy, inclusion.. We are willing to work hard to try and adress the suffering of our people.. But I personally have no more patience for the blatant hate and racism that has unfortunately gripped the country again.
I will rather be in a foreign country than be part of this shameful nonsense
@@kasper7203 Dude. Please stop with the SwartGervaar.
We aren't trying to cleanse anyone. We just want our languages to be taught in school.
@@kasper7203How is this racism? Other languages of this country existing around you is somehow an erosion of your rights?
@@kasper7203Then leave. You won't be missed.
"Kasper has left the country whatever will we do."😢
@@fullmetaltheorist you started off by saying I am silly to be worried, ended off by telling me to leave??? I was reporting what another user literally said and you confirm our fears by asking us to leave.. If you don't understand that what you are doing is wrong then you are no better than the Zionists
Funny how when i visited checkers in PE the language righten on store were English and Afrikaans on board but u find that majority are Xhosa and Khoisans.
Perhaps you can approach the manager and get some other signs written in the 12 official languages of South Africa, I hope they can do this on every day products too.
Khoisan don't exist anymore in South Africa, in a pure form . Khoi now mixed Xhosa san now mixed Basotho, Batswana in . Some Cape Coloureds have khoi ancestry too although culturally Asian Malay
@@drea7295 Are you stupid or just a two year old?
@@tinkabella2000 I grew up thinking we all came from the Khoi n sans (pure South Africans)
This will probably increase costs in the packaging department on the production line, so then expect more inflation. @@drea7295
Those extremist can cry me a river. Black south africans have the right to be taught in their local language.
Read the Bella Bill and you will see this is a very very very very dark hour for south africa. Basically we have lost the right to our children. Abortion for girls over 12 without parental consent puberty blockers which is medical castration without parental conscent. Explicit sexual education. Without parental concent. The closure of rural schools. So guess what the landclaims is out the window...because kids have to be in scolls for 4.. imprisonment for parents who don't comply. Sale of alcohol on the school premises. .. and forced vaccination program.. and should you joy comply jail time. Please wake up and bot woke up
My family arrived in South Africa in 1610. There were no black tribes south of the Limpopo river in 1610. Try learning real history, not propaganda.
Some how I find this hard to believe, you were there to verify this?
utter nonsense
@@laurencesmith1435 you must be a bot, there were no white families here in 1610 🤣 or you're just really bad at history
When you've had the privileged position for so long, equality feels like oppression. No is saying remove Afrikaans. We are saying there MUST be languages added for what majority of the surrounding areas speak.
Uh oh, preaching about „privilege“ means Someone had their safespace cracked lol
Exactly
@@sphumelelesijadu We Afrikaners have been lobbying for mother tongue education for all, for decades. But English, the language of the oppressor, and a foreign language at that, is forced on all. Where is Nama and other indigenous languages? Why should the Khoi and San children not be taught in their own languages? And why doesn't government even recognise the languages of the First People?
@@sphumelelesijadu unfortunately you're wrong, but I'll just leave it at that
@@Afriqueleblanq Afrikaan is equally the language of the oppressor. As you heard in the report it's a mixture of European languages not African. But you have the point about Khoi San language.
During apartheid, apartheid government took final decision over school governing body. Anc government gave school governing body that power. But in 30 years those model c schools still did not include African languages in schools and still made afrikaans a requirment to pass and whats worse is some schools they even have overseas foreign languages taught in these schools but there is no Sesotho language, venda, pedi , ndebele etc. School governing body had 30 YEARS to do that but they did not. But it is only few groups crying about this language policy in bela bill. Majority of nation they are happy
You seem confused. Most schools that use Afrikaans are in areas where the majority of the population has Afrikaans as a first language. It is law that if that was not the case the school must ad the language of the majority of the population and become dual medium.
What you are asking for is for adfrikaans schools, in Afrikaans areas, with Afrikaans pupils, to teach in a language that neither the teachers nor the students will understand. That is absurd.
Schools should cater to the population it serves the best it can.. That should be the law
@@kasper7203 if that is the case then why are you worried, because that is exactly what the bill is saying.
@@mashobane6177 that is not what the bill is saying, the bill gives national government the power to change any schools language policy. Why does the government need that power if there are already laws in place that can be used to target schools who are not serving it's local community? The conclusion is that the government wants to expand the criteria for "problematic schools" and target schools in Afrikaans areas out of some misguided attempt to erase the cultures associated with the language.
Frankly I don't even care that much about the culture, but we know students have a better chance at success if they are taught in their mother tongue. We should all be trying to help the students regardless of their culture.
@@kasper7203You're just opposing for the sake of opposing. Even your reasons don't say much.
@@kasper7203 no the bill says the language of the local community that dominates the surroundings of the school must be added in the curriculum. If it is already in use then , that means you are on track simple. Of course the government will come in to verify if that rule is followed.
As a 16 year-old white, Afrikaans-speaking South African, I love my country and all the people in it, but many of these comments are making me lose hope that we could ever truly unite as one nation. There is definitely a huge disparity in mother tongue education in South Africa. Majority of the schools are English medium, then Afrikaans medium with a few dual medium schools. The quality of education in these schools are much better than those of the few schools who teach in Zulu, Xhosa etc. I believe every child has the right to quality education in their mother tongue. What needs to happen is that 1) Quality schools should be built that teach in the language spoken by the majority of the community. Hence, if majority of the people in the community speak Sepedi, the school should teach in Sepedi. Same for majority Afrikaans areas. Then, 2) Every school should be required to reach English since it's the language of the world, and Zulu since it's the most spoken language of South Africa. I never understood why so many schools offer French or German as additional languages, but not something like Xhosa or Tswana etc. Truthfully, in a country with SO many languages, the only option is having and opening schools that can cater for the needs of the whole community. I think the Bill could help achieve this goal in the by ensuring that communities that have two major language groups for example, are taught in their respective tongues in a dual medium school. The Bill doesn't want to replace Afrikaans, on top of the many other fear-mongering propaganda being spread by many people and organisations. I also think us white South Africans should put in an effort to learn one of our many African languages. It shocks and saddens me that in this day and age so many of my fellow Afrikaners especially want and even expect black South Africans to speak to us in Afrikaans. Cultural integration is just as important as cultural preservation, especially in South Africa.
@@caitlinchisholm6642 This ain't your country bud.
I'm surprised you're reasonable. Most white South Africans are out of their minds
Yeah indegenous languages should be preserved and be a top priority.
This is a very eye opening comment for cultural and language integrations.
@@Trash-Compactor. If you're black and basing that statement on where my ancestors come from, then by that logic this isn't your country either. In fact, why don't we all just leave then (whites to Europe, Indians to India, blacks to west Africa) and give the country back to the KhoiSan. I didn't ask to be born where I was or for my forefathers to have come here. But I'm here, I've only ever known South Africa and it's food, language, culture and beauty. I love my people and I only want the best for South Africa and everyone in her. The potential we have as a nation is enormous, unfortunately people who think like you are hindering our progress to become Madiba's dream - "South Africa belongs to all those who live in her"
The racists are blowing this law out of proportion. The law states that if you have a group of students who speak a specific language then the school must hire extra teachers who can teach them in that language.
Its fundamentally anti-constitutional to want this law not to pass. So kids must fail becuz some racist feels his or her language will be threatened if 30% of the school gets taught in the language they speak at home. Absolutely bonkers to me.
@@ntokozosibanyoni1421 It's absolutely weird. They simply don't want to be around the native language speaker. Apartheid 2.0
@@ntokozosibanyoni1421 Section 29(2) of the South African Constitution states:
“Everyone has the right to receive education in the official language or languages of their choice in public educational institutions..."
@@DarrenWessels-ck1wr suig jy kaffer piel
Sounds like a great idea ! That’s how you keep culture and tradition !
The problem is when you make the medium I'd instruction in that school I'd only Afrikaans and it excludes other South Africans thrn you claim that South Africa is one nation
The majority of Afrikaans schools are dual medium, meaning they try to be inclusive for English students. These schools are also mostly found in areas where Afrikaans is the first language of the majority of the local population.
There is allot wrong with South African education but this isn't one of the problems. We should be building schools that cater for the students it serves. There should be more Xhosa, Zulu, Venda and Sotho schools if that would help our students.
@@kasper7203I agree or like the bill proposes more teachers or classes catering to the communities needs.The first problem is lack of schools teaching in African tribal languages.
@@drea7295 agreed.. We should expand the options of students to be taught in the language they are most comfortable in. If that language happens to be afrikaans in some schools then I see no reason to attack those schools over it.
@@kasper7203 that just divides people
No it just means that you must teach in mother tounge in your schools! Government is not coming into our schools, we were forced in 96 with a very racist schools act! Millennials today regret it as look at what you are saying now, where are your schools? Whites built our own, until you build yours nothing will change. You cannot expect after 3 generations to still want hand outs! You are like Africans, used to handouts. You got free land, R50 a week per child and you have billions every month to be as communist as you like… goodbye
Let the parents decide what language their kids need to be taught in. Let the community which surrounds that particular school be the deciding factor. Us who live in Afrikaans communities where we speak Afrikaans almost 98% of the day, why should government decide for us the medium of instruction? In our community, we certainly want our kids to be taught in our mother tongue, Afrikaans as it has always been. Don't come and decide for us, we are at peace.
South Africans want their history back
NOT ANYMORE!! The DBE will now have the FINAL SAY!!!
If you want to preserve Afrikaans, build private Afrikaans schools. It is no longer practical to have public Afrikaans schools.
The Government has a constitutional obligation to provide education for all South African learners. It costs no more to educate pupils in their mother tongue than in English.
@@darkgalaxy5548 but an Afrikaans only school becomes an obstruction to a none Afrikaans speaking learner who also wants to learn there.
@@Onelove-Oneheart-h4c Section 29(2) of the South African Constitution:
“Everyone has the right to receive education in the official language or languages of their choice in public educational institutions..."
The same is true for English or Zulu medium schools. There are 11 officials languages in South Africa.
@darkgalaxy5548 my point exactly my children have a right to learn in Zulu in a previously Afrikaans school, not that I would want to send my children there.
@@Onelove-Oneheart-h4c The Constitution doesn't say that at all. It say your children have a right to learn in Zulu. It doesn't say in any school of your choice.
You can teach them Afrikaans at home... schools are for education, not to keep your personal language and culture going. There are 12 official languages in SA... why must anyone prioritize Afrikaans
Or, you can just go to another school that doesn't use Afrikaans.
@@Layput You don't seem to be using your brain so let me help...
1. Other schools may not always have space
2. Other schools may be too far away
3. Education is more important than anybody's language or "culture"
4. Afrikaners should get over themselves and stop thinking they deserve special exemptions. No one else is complaining about this but them because they don't want to assimilate to the rest of society. They need to grow up.
We all pay tax. Why must a public school only cater to a certain segment?
13% of the population uses Afrikaans as their main language. Schools that use Afrikaans are in areas where the majority of the population has Afrikaans as a first language. What you are asking for will disadvantage more children than it will help.
This is exactly what the apartheid government did and we know where that got us.. We absolutely need schools to cater to the people it serves
Its pretty hard because schools in this country use Englishor Afrikaans. @@Layput
Majority of South Africans will benefit. You win some you lose some
But these are government schools. Afrikaans people must just create Afrikaans private schools and continue their exclusion programme with their own funds. Not my taxpayer money, I won't pay for the preservation of that language
Section 29(2) of the South African Constitution states:
“Everyone has the right to receive education in the official language or languages of their choice in public educational institutions..."
Not your tax money? What about the other tax payers money? My mother used to say that God allows the sun to shine over every person's head. We are a community and a nation. Everyone deserves to speak and be taught in their own preferred language. These are children, they are our country's future. Look at their beautiful faces, these kids are adorable.
and if they start their own schools you say racist haha... so you will keep on complaining...
But then it's also a problem and say it's racist
@@jakelex1177 if Afrikaners stop paying taxes the whole country folds. So keep pushing and playing stupid games.
I feel like this is more of a non issue than people are making it out to be. Specifically what's happening is that all public schools are being opened to all students, and so accessibility is becoming a question. Children who make up anywhere from 85% or more of students don't speak the language that the best schools are in (12%~ of students speak Afrikaans), and so this law would make it easier for them to get schooling. I don't think this would be harmful to Afrikaans speakers because it's not a ban on the language, or even forcing every school to use English. It doesn't even necessarily mean that the current schooling will have to change much, the fact that education has been done in both languages means that curricula for both probably exist and so it wouldn't even take much work from the teachers. Worst case scenario I could see schools get turned into multi-lingual institutions, where one set of students is taught in English as the other still gets taught in Afrikaans.
While it would give the government some final say, I don't think they have an agenda to force everyone to school in the same language. It seems more like there's a few schools in mind which the government would want to act in in particular rather than a blanket linguistic change.
The majority of Afrikaans schools are already dual medium, meaning they try to cater for a minority English speaking group of students. Most Afrikaans schools are located in areas where Afrikaans is the first language of the majority of people.
This law effectively gives the national government the option to force a school in a place like Vredendal (Rural western Cape) to teach primarily in English.. Which would be to the detrament of the students and our economy.
There are already laws in place to adress the issue you have described that can be used to force a school to change language policy if it is in an area that should be serving a different language. Why would we give the government this power when we know it was last used in the apartheid era to target and disrupt schooling in certain areas.
The constitution guarantees learners to be educated in their own language. It doesn't give anyone the right to deny learners their preferred medium of instruction.
It's definitely a non issue, people are misinterpreting it
@@kasper7203 My issue is that governments typically don't pass laws unless they have to. If there was no problem getting English speaking kids decent access to education in Afrikaans schools, in my reasoning they wouldn't have to pass a law like this.
Going on to what you said though, how has teaching English affected those Afrikaans schools that already have it in their curriculum? If it's had a negligible effect on Afrikaans speakers, what is the issue with the government even forcing all Afrikaans schools to be mixed medium? Not that they should, but as a concept.
You say that the government can already force a school to change its language if it needs to, which to me sounds like it could be abused by the government already. All they need to do is make up a reason why it would make sense to teach English, and they could realistically force any school to do it. If the government was going to abuse a power like this, why had they not done so already? It would be exceedingly easy to do so.
Here my original reasoning comes in. The fact is that the current law might be intended to allow the government to try and intervene in the use of language at a school. However the way it is written, combined with how the system is set up, could make implementing change difficult, hence the new law.
@@dunkelsteinen1747 you are absolutely correct. If there are already comprehensive laws about this then why would the government need this law? We as afrikaans speakers (who are constantly told we should just go back to Europe and that we are to blame for everything wrong in this country) we obviously think the government intends to abuse their power and force afrikaans schools to become English at the expense of the local majority who prefers to be taught in afrikaans.
Now you might say we are paranoid but honestly if you read others comments, ethnic cleansing is being thrown around like it is justified, so I think we are within reason to be careful.
As for whether dual medium schools have negatively effected existing afrikaans schools, I think it is negligible and therefore almost all Afrikaans schools have already adopted this model.
I don't think any afrikaans student would be worried if the language of the bill capped government power to phasing in a dual medium model.. unfortunately the language does not say that and gives government complete control of language policy.. Hence the fear
The misinterpretation of this bill is so funny to me.
Government taking control of schools funny??? That’s why you a 30%er cannot do anything or think for yourself! I’d say you lot are just jealous at this point. Our kids won’t suffer like we did for your 30% it’s been tried and we see the results of how the English look after 30 years of freebies and government! Be proud 30%er, proud enough to fix your township schools
Let's just stick to English. Makes life easier
No thanks, I speak English today but my kids are educated in Afrikaans! I’ve been through new South Africa’s communism long enough to know that I won’t bow to government!
It benefits you the communists no one else
Section 29(2) of the South African Constitution states:
“Everyone has the right to receive education in the official language or languages of their choice in public educational institutions..."
@@darkgalaxy5548 fully understand but it's not practical. We have 11 official languages and our schools are diverse
@@mosankoane4938 It's no so impractical. You'll have the same number of students, require the same number of teachers. The students will attend a school that fits their preferred medium, the teachers will be assigned according to a school's needs.
@@darkgalaxy5548 Honestly though, I understand we should have pride in our mother tongue language but it won't benefit the student/learner in the long run. I mean English is the medium language for almost everything
What erosion? My son nearly never got a place into any public school bcoz his grade 8 was from a pvt school meaning his certificate didnot have afrikaans. Black schools were denying a black child for not having Afrikaans on his certificate. Wow!
Which school is that
@@thato596 not sure if you noticed that I said schools, in plural. I had to go to Ekurhuleni North District to have the problem addressed
@@domingos_m yes and I asked which school is that
@@domingos_m He's asking about the private school
What the government should instead do is EXPAND the use of our other beautiful and indigenous South African languages in schooling!
Xhosa, Zulu, Swati, Ndebele, Venda, Tsonga, Sotho, Tswana, Northern Sotho, Lobedu, Nama etc
Section 29(2) - Right to Education in a Language of Choice:
“Everyone has the right to receive education in the official language or languages of their choice in public educational institutions..."
Exactly. Afrikkkan should be banned
@@darkgalaxy5548And yet only English and Afrikaans are used.
@@caimaccoinnich9594 Amen
@@caimaccoinnich9594 Not so! There are several Zulu and Xhosa medium schools.
Like why are we worried what they think when it’s literally not happening. Afrikaaners just want to be seperate from black South Africans they don’t want to share resources
Exactly my point. Making a school use Afrikaans as the language of instruction is them doing their "ethic cleansing" because they know people of color have little to no experience with Afrikaans. Same with orania where they make it seem like it's not about race but rather about "cultural preservation." Then, use socio-economic issues as a front as if no one in South africa experiences issues such as crime. It's actually funny because them not wanting Afrikaans to be a 2nd additional language in a school is basically saying Afrikaans speaking people can't coexist with other cultures, hence orania.
TO GO IS TO SEE😂
@@thatomothapo450 - You zombie.. there are more coloured South Africans that speak Afrikaans than there are whites South Africans who speak Afrikaans.
The Government depends on fools like you to vote for them. It's like you're too thick to realise that the Government is trying to hide their failures with this Bill.
Tell us how well run the schools in townships and rural area's are? With this bill the Government wont have to fix those poorly run schools in townships and rural area's but rather expect well run Afrikaans schools to pick up the slack for those poor performing schools.
Please Don't generalize all afrikaans speaking individuals. We only have a few very loud radicals, like most ethnic groups.
It is a Dutch language, it's not mix of any African language and it's not an African language. Stop misleading people
@@stevenwilliams3015 You know nothing absolutely nothing about our language. I can also bet you've never even been to South Africa. Must be nice ignorantly and stupidly breaching your lane.
Then don't go to that school. Simple. Why do you want to dictate other people?
The government must cater to the majority. Not a minority that wants to make public school (which we all pay taxes for) their personal cultural preservation method
@@presh804 The Afrikaans schools are in the minority amongst schools in South Africa. 🤡
@@presh804 Cater to the majority? Have you hear of BBE? Have you seen what the skin complexion is of 99% of parliament!? Also there are way more English speaking school than Afrikaans schools? Wow you've really thought this through huh!?🤡🐵
What about isiZulu, isiXhosa, sePedi , seTswana, seSotho, etc... There's several African native languages that are literally eroding and are probably going to get extinct if no action is taken.
Then parents must exercise their constitutional right to have their children educated in the language of their choice.
Teach us
No tnx, to many Ngunis to care
What about the coloureds they also speak Afrikaans. Are they to be forgotten.
Who said they are getting rid of Afrikaans as a whole?
yes. dutch made them. dutch can be responsible for them.
@@MargaretPoyser-w8g What about African people they also speak African languages like Sesotho , venda , ndebele , xhosa etc.
There is still many of coloureds who do not know afrikaans and many of them only know english. And english is already there to accommodate them and other people
@@kreativeforce532 dutch didn't make afrikaans. i'm originally dutch and can't speak afrikaans, some words ok but it's definately not the same
Western Cape is almost entirely Afrikaans!!!! Only Cape Town cbd is English… go back to Africa
They are crying because it won't be taught at a black primary school?
This has been debunked several times. Nobody is taking away any languages. The schools will add more
Rubbish! The goal is to change Afrikaans medium schools to English medium schools.
@@darkgalaxy5548 Based on what? elaborate
@@darkgalaxy5548 Where in the bill does it say they will get rid of Afrikaans?
@@njabulombuyazi5132 The Government is building no new schools to accommodate a rising student population. The black population wants more English medium schools, as is their right, but the government just isn't building them. The quick dirty solution is force Afrikaners (& maybe Coloureds as well) to chose between English medium or private/home schooling. Let's say an Afrikaans medium school is forced to become dual medium. Simple arithmetic says half the pupils will have to choose between abandoning Afrikaans instruction, or seek other learning accommodation, even though the constitution says every pupil has a right to government instruction in the language of their choice.
@njabulobuyazi5132 I totally agree, as some of these "Model C" schools already have Afrikaans, Sepedi, Zulu, and maybe more as a 2nd additional language. So I personally don't see it as this "cultural cleaning" thing they are pushing, cause if Afrikaans is the language you speak at home, then choosing it as a 2nd additional language wouldn't be a hassle. In my opinion, it seems like they are the ones trying to keep other people who can't speak Afrikaans out since they label their schools as Afrikaans only.
All languages matter, to those who speak it.
The fact that they called that language Afrikaans is extremely insulting
why?
@@bevs9995 Because it’s a European language not an African language so calling it Afrikaans is a bit of a joke. It should be called Europeans or just creole Dutch or something
@@Goldniz Wasnt the word "Africa" and "African" also made up by Europeans? Is that not an English word?
@@bevs9995 And still it is meant to represent Africans right
@@Goldniz I think they had a separate word for SSA.
But North Africans were referred to as "africans" too, yes?
The BELA bill is constitutional and aims to promote inclusivity by adding other native languages in schools with black students, rather than erasing Afrikaans. Its goal is to address systematic divisions, where black learners are often compelled to study Afrikaans, which serves as a barrier to their education. Additionally, the bill seeks to dismantle efforts by certain white racists to create Afrikaans-only schools to avoid integrating with black learners.
It’s not constitutional it’s theft of private property built by white churches! Government built township schools, look at those ones where noone pays!!! Look nicely because you didn’t pay that’s why they look like that. Be proud
*please.. South Africa🇿🇦 suspend/ cut diplomatic relations with Israel. like Mauritania, Mali, Niger.*
As far as I know we were one of the first nations to cut ties with Israel.. We also took them to the international court and accused them of genocide
The Israel-Palestine conflict is not South Africa's conflict. Neither is Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, Myanmar conflict, Sudan civil war. South Africa does not need to be drawn into perpetual forever wars.
@@darkgalaxy5548 speak for yourself.. I oppose genocide
@@kasper7203 Great. Let me know how you get on. How are your efforts for Nagorno-Karabakh coming. Have you made any headway there?
@@darkgalaxy5548 I'm not intrested in finding excuses to apathy. As a South African it is your duty to oppose the kind of crimes commited by our forefathers wherever we find it. No one expecting you to march solo into Palestine to protect the civilians.. What we do expect is that you at least have the decency to call out a crime against humanity when you see it. And yes you are welcome to include crimes commited by non western aligned groups like the Sudanese army... but let's be honest.. It's not like there is a shortage of criticism for those groups and they are not funded by the west.. They are sanctioned.. All you have to do is ask for the same treatment of Israel or any group that breaches international law.
The language is not a problem, in fact it's a lovely Language, But the history of the language has an irremovable stain in our country. I wouldn't be surprised if the non-speakers care any less about the concerns of Afrikaans speaking communities.
What is the point of preserving Afrikaans?...except as a historical language. it has very little use in the world and is most certainly a remnant of the dark days of apartheid
@@glenngilbert7389 Yeah and what you're saying is the equivalent to reverse apartheid 🤡
So you'd extinguish all languages in South Africa except English? Zulu, Xhosa, Sotho, Tswana are also on the chopping block?
@@glenngilbert7389 Talk about reversing the @partheid.
It's a very much living language in SA, just as SA's other ones are.
They have the right to express themselves in whatever language they want.
I remember how much I hated this language they are talking about while growing up and having to enrol in it as an additional language in school smh
There is so many Afrikaans speaking children and people why is everything always about apartheid that died 30 years ago it's time to stop with this we don't intervene with your culture so leave ours alone
You own the moneey supply, all businesses, and all media. Why not stop playing the victim and take responsibility for your evil community of Supremacists. Hold your boomers to account and you might have a place in the new south africa. Not if you keep acting like you did nothing wrong.
I think this new law is healthy. It means that native languages and cultures will not feel like their heritage is being wiped out and that they are slowly being moved out of importance in the country. Finally, native language speakers will not have to struggle. Finally, Afrikaans speaking group will realise that the way Apartheid affected brown-skinned people was detrimental and to what degree. I don’t know what acknowledgment they really have rights to in natively black country… Afrikaans is not being diminished out … it’s being reduced and the racism is carries is being reduced.
As a Xhosa speaking person I was taught in English, I cannot see why other cultures kids cannot do the same. Surely they can’t be that dom!
Dutch must be spoken in Netherlands not South Africa
Afrikaans isn't Dutch it is a daughter language and not only is it the boere but also the coloureds language too so like it or not it's apart of south Africa you can cry all you want
@@Firefly13114 well take that daughter back to its mother, we dont want it!!
@@diesel305 tell you what you go back from where your ancestors come from because this land belonged to the khoi and what do you mean by we coloreds and boere want it here why if you don't want to learn Afrikaans stop putting your kids in Afrikaans schools stupid
... well, Afrikaans is mixed and influenced by other African languages as well... So whose mother should it actually go back to now?
You’re out of your depth
This is simple why all should learn in one language, you can't have some learning in afrikaans and others in english. We have 12 official languages and one of that language should be one that we all learn in
That's a bit anglocentric don't you think? South Africa is a sizeable nation of different ethnic and cultural backgrounds - the idea that everyone would just drop their first tongue for one primarily used on an entirely different continent is a bit absurd.
@@holyherrerasaurus5728 thing is we have 12 official languages it's going to take a lot of time to create an education system for each language
@@thabang_sammy And these people pay taxes and contribute to the economy; they deserve to be appropriately compensated by a system that accommodates their needs - no?
Not only do they pay taxes, they fund the very schools their kids attend! Government has zero say in these schools, and we don’t want to all speak one language because you allowed Ngunis in!
This can never happen in Britain.
Well this is South Africa. Why should they worry about Britain.
SHHHH COLONISER
Nee dit kan nie 😂
But you are not African so how is this your business? Let Africans decide their culture and future. Caucasians, Indians, Chinese, Khoisan and Arabs are not Africans.
@@soledtv8956 I don't understand this comment?
Why is Haru Mutasa reporting for South Africa, she's a Zimbabwean.... Her reporting is over exaggerated and all her reports tend to show disunity... We don't need outsiders to give false reports
Al Jazeera doesn't belong to South Africa, entitlement will kill Mzansi, like a spoil child everything me me me only😅😅😅
@MuhammedSayanvala hahaha why don't you go and represent SA. Leave Haru alone. She is grinding and you should send your application to Al jazeera as well
Your name is Muhammad Sayanvala and her's is Hura Mutasa....who between you is an outsider on the continent?
Don't fault the reporter, blame the powers that be
@@EMINADO.1.11 She is responsible for the report which is inaccurate. She should go to Zim and report about people eating elephant meat because of the drought.
@@EMINADO.1.11 Egyptian Heritage, Cape roots , I'm African while you were in Zimbabwe, we were busy fighting for the struggle of liberation, only for you to jump the border illegally so you can sell your drugs here...lol, I know you love south Africa, you should be proud of Zim
Other schools are even struggling to get Afrikaans teachers .
Blame BEE.
Maybe they should be held accountable for distributing HIV before playing the victim?
Rubbish. In schools English is main language,then for your second language children can choose Afrikaans or Zulu.
In an African country, why must a majority language like Zulu be a second language🤣?
English is British and Afrikaans is Dutch. These debates are slowing down progress of our indigenous languages. Imagine telling people in Netherlands to learn in English and not Dutch? What a joke guys😂
@@presh804 Well that's something you must take up with the ANC govt, We did NOT draft THE BILLS. When children leave school, they all must speak and learn in ENGLISH IN UNIVERSITIES 🤔🤔🤔
@presh804 Because nothing will be taught in your home language in an academic setting like a university, not all of us speak zulu, so English will be more useful because the majority of us in the country can speak it
@@gomolemomathule3588 Some of these people, think we S.A citizens are the George of the jungle,swinging from trees, wearing leaves. Insulting our intelligence.
@@presh804English is the language of the world now. Good luck trying to do business with a Japanese person in zulu.
How about the Horrific transatlantic trade slavery 1700s as uniformly mandatory in So Africa schools curriculum history lessons
Our tax money funds these schools, so tell us why our governme shouldn't have a say Al Jazeera. We're not gonna pay for the preservation of that language. If Afrikaner speakers are so gunghold about this reactionary language being kept as a medium of instruction, then they must just open up their own private Afrikaner schools instead of expecting the tax payer to subsidize their oppression of our people. Kids are finding it very difficult to learn in this language, & last I checked we have 11 to 12 OFFICIAL LANGUAGES, so Afrikaner Reactionary Nationalists can cry me a river. We don't care about Afrikaans.
Section 29(2) of the South African Constitution states:
“Everyone has the right to receive education in the official language or languages of their choice in public educational institutions..."
@@darkgalaxy5548 So you're gonna harass me?
I repeat and maintain what I said, if kids don't speak a lick of Afrikaans at home, they shouldn't be instructed using it at school. Keep crying cl🤡wn, you're not gonna stop this law going into operation.
@@ntokozosibanyoni1421 it sounds ss though you think Afrikaans people do not pay tax. Maybe Afrikaans people should stop paying tax - that would be a disaster. But for the past 20 yrs it has been very easy to treat us as lower class citizens. The non Afrikaans schools must rather sort out their major issues and leave the Afrikaans schools alone. They have no discipline - both teachers and pupils do whatever they want - now those schools are failing and they want to destroy the handful of Afrikaans schools left.
80% of blacks don’t pay taxes they live off taxes… the blacks with money refuse to help their own people why is that?
Afrikaans speaking people pay tax too... And it isn't only white people who speak it.
13.5% of the population speaks it, which makes it the 3rd most spoken language after Xhosa and Zulu. But I don't see you saying we must eradicate the other 8 languages since they are less spoken than the top 3.
The tyranic new laws in SA is on par with apartheid.
I'm so grateful to be a native English speaker, cause there's really no threat of my language being suppressed
Can't imagine what a pain it must be to speak a minority language that suffers restrictions
Afrikaans people both white and colourd speak English! What’s insufferable is that even if every school was English the outcome would remain the same! Government schools are terrible institutions of education
I speak fifteen languages.
Why are we restricting anybody's choice of whatever language they prefer ?
I am parent who is frustrated of doing Afrikaans HOMEWORK. thank you BELA Act, now we are tasting freedom.
There are plenty of well funded, prestigious English schools in South Africa. Us as Afrikaners don't insit that we go to those schools and be taught in Afrikaans. We have the right to preserve our language and culture just like anybody else in this world.
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Tutti i paesi schiavizzati dall', impero britannico parlano inglese... Noi lo stiamo imparando. ...
You Afrikaners are such cry-babies. There are 12 official languages, why is no one else making a noise but you... because you think that you should be prioritized over everyone else. Teach your kids Afrikaans at home and let schools teach lessons properly and stop whining like a child.
Well that's gonna change, or you do it in Europe
@@yummydishes2279 Bet you won't tell that to my face.
You cannot force “ All for one, and one for all in South Africa” as there are to many languages in our country.
Al Jezeera English you reporting nonsense for a long time. I agree that this news channel must be removed. How is afrikaans a mix of khoi or san languages when it does not have click sound words. Even 50 foreign words is not enough to say the language is mixed because languages have over 1000 words.
Brother what are you talking about? Do you think Afrikaans is not influenced by Africa?
This country is lost if we are honesty going to argue about this nonsense.. People are suffering and this is the hill you want to die on..
@@kasper7203Afrikaans is not influenced by Africa. The language is 95% Dutch. The rest is Arabic and Malaysian. It only has a few borrowed words.
@@kasper7203 what you talking about? afrikaans is fully non African afrikaans is dutch and it falls under european language tree
@@fullmetaltheorist... Please study the language and we can talk again because honestly I don't know what to tell you.. Afrikaans is not Dutch and yes it was heavily influenced by Africa as it was created here over the span of 400 years.
@@thato596 look I don't know what to tell you.. Clearly there is confusion here because I thought it was common knowledge that Afrikaans is a fusion of languages, majority of which is Dutch but certainly not all of it.
Maybe next time read up about something before judging it.
Aljazeera please come to Timor and ficus on Timor language policies and schools
Then take them where they speak English.
I know, right. But of course, entitlement.
No, take these Dutch back to their country
These Beors are crazy. 😂😂😂😂
Ok all together now. In Xhosa: GNU 😂 Just kidding, these are public schools. Get with the program
The old Afrikaans and English schools were built to be grand with all necessary facilities, resources, and low fees. Other schools don't even have windows, kids sit 2 PER DESK, and the emotional intelligence of teachers is low. South Africans are tired of trying to get along with people who don't want real democracy . We have let corruption derail and divide us from hard truths and difficult actions needed.
Then vote for a govt that will build needed schools and employ teachers instead of giving taxpayer's money to cadres and the Guptas.
@darkgalaxy5548 Government employees in departments are toxic. No accountability, no discipline, no real management within departments. Parents pay, kids wake up at 4am, are stuffed in taxis to get to better schools, Only for the school to be 90% Tswana and IsiZulu and still teach Afrikaans. Respect black consumer. You have to cater to people that pay your salary.
@@ref8702 There is no Afrikaans medium school that's 90% Zulu & Tswana. But if you mean a school that teaches Afrikaans Second Additional Language, the students themselves are choosing it because it's so much easier than Zulu or Sotho SAL.
@darkgalaxy5548 how can a language you don't speak at home or hear in your neighborhood be easier. No problem, no need to worry. Things will stay the same. How can people with so much be so greedy and uncivil. Gleefully unaware of the struggles of others. Describing hardship as optional.
@@ref8702 That's what the black kids a my school tell me when I ask them why they're doing Afrikaans SAL for matric.
I am coloured and afrikaans is staying..i will not let my kids learn xhosa language
Respect native Languages and live with them peacefully unlike Israeli settlers
Tricameral parliament election voter .
The onky people that see Afrikaans as the language of tye oppressor are those that don't speak it in their everyday lives.
This attitude is prevalent in majority Black provinces like Gauteng in particular.
In majority Coloured provinces like Western Cape, or Northern Cape which is 50/50, Afrikaans is spoken by the majority of residents Black, White, Coloured.
As a Black person from a Cape province, I feel like these laws originate from Gauteng people and they are imposing their views onto our Cape identities.
They don't have to go to Afrikaans-speaking school if they don't want to learn Afrikaans. Simple. They could put up their own school that uses a language of their own choosing.
You don't understand the bill .
The country is made up of 80% Black African people, if Afrikaans people want to preserve their culture they can do it back in Europe. No other country on earth would accept this nonsense and it's not even that the government is trying to erase the dumb language, it's simply stating that the schools teach a local language or instruct in a local language.
It's specifically about trying to get student better access to education, some of the Afrikaans schools are of higher quality than ones that teach in English. The aim is to get more Africans and others into tertiary education. Regardless it wouldn't prevent Afrikaans from being taught, it would just require English to be taught as well if there's sufficient linguistic demand.
That is why a Federal state may be the answer for South Africa. Regions can then choose their language in schools. There are 12 official languages in South Africa and the majority are region based.
Why not teach and learn both languages? I find it sad here in the United States we don't force kids/people to learn other languages. Instead it makes Americans feel "entitled" knowing most the world learns English. Then when I see American tourists in other countries getting angry because native locals can't speak English. Gets me pretty annoyed knowing this is how most of the world views us as. However I never get upset when locals are quick to judge me because I understand why. I always do my best to learn the culture and local dialects of places I am visiting beforehand. Anyway I digress, but back to learning both languages. You have places like India and China, who not only teach & learn English but they also learn other dialects within their own country. I'll never understand why we limit children to learn a single language these days.
What do you mean "both" languages? South Africa has 11 official languages. To get a National Senior Certificate (ie graduate from high school) South African students must pass proficiency in Home Language and Additional Second Language.
There are more than two languages in South Africa.
The problem is that we have 12 official languages if you include sign language. And most people want to be taught in their native language. The problem is that most schools is either Afrikaans, English, or Xhosa.
The government shouldn't get to dedice what language kids get taught in.
Everyone has the right to be taught in their native language.
But that doesn't mean Afrikaans should be removed from schools just because it's only spoken by 13% of the population. You can't change an Afrikaans community school to something else, when the whole community speaks Afrikaans and hardly any English.
It's absurd
Better off learning in English it will save these kids alot of headache when entering universities and the work place.
The governing party has failed to build schools, which would have addressed the issue in the first place.
The government does not provide, it only takes
It's dutch aka a european language not an African one.
But they don't use it in Europe?
It's not used in Europe so it isn't a European language.
It's an official language of South Africa, so by definition it's an African language. Just like Arabic.
All rural schools receive Bantu education as they are taught in their mother tongue. I wonder how that poor child will find work based upon that???? No they don’t, thats why we have a huge unemployment rate. Shame
DURING THE COLONIAL YEARS😂😂😂 U PEOPLE. SAY THE TRUTH. EUROPE AND AFRICA WERE DOING TRADE THAT PERIOD NOT COLONIZATION.
It's an African country where all African people of colour are supposed to flourish. Just imagine if Africa was never colonized and South Africans were all taught English fairly with Sotho, Zulu, Xhosa etc. and all people regardless of race had the same educational opportunities, this country would've been different with no apartheid. Maybe this land would've been successful beyond our imaginations and we would've all had a fair playing field...
Afrikaans is NOT A AFRICAN LANGUAGE! Don't be fooled by its name its a european language created by dutch settlers
Afrikaans is a language originating & spoken mainly in Southern Africa. It is an official recognized language of South Africa. The South African National Anthem contains verses in Afrikaans. It would seem you're out of touch with South African language usage & policies.
@@darkgalaxy5548It's white and European, no indigenous African (Eg Khoisan, pygmies, Cushites, Bantu, Nilotics etc) spoke anything that gives birth to it. It's European in origins
@@oneel3859 Ignorant Rubbish! 60% of afrikaans speaker are Coloured. The pupils in this video are Coloured. Why don't you do a bit of research before displaying your ignorance?
@@darkgalaxy5548 1. English, French, Spanish and Portuguese are also official languages in multiple African countries, doesn't make them African just because the state made them official languages in their countries.
2. Foreign Dutch invaders who are by the way not African are the ones who created this language which thus also makes Afrikaans a foreign language. It doesn't matter if its not spoken anywhere else it's still a Germanic language, NOT African.
3. The South African anthem containing verses in Afrikaans also doesn't make that language indigenous. If it did than all the other european languages in African anthems would also have to be called indigenous when clearly they are not.
4. No white man should have the right to invade African soil and tell us African people what our languages should be and our borders, PERIOD!
@@xaivior2246Africans also have no right to invade European lands with their illegal immigrants.
I'm a black herero Namibian women who decided to put my kid in an Afrikaans medium of instruction for lower primary a normal government school, kids adopt Quickly they learn fast its not really a big deal. For upper primary they continue with English till grade twelve and Otjiherero and Afrikaans becomes subjects only. besides here in Namibia we prefer to speak Afrikaans in the streets oog Engels maak ons honger!
Well we do not have inferior minds like you. We love our African languages. Well here we prefer talking Sesotho, xhosa etc in the streets even to strangers
whites only care about their languages and they look down on your languages. But you cry for their languages. We do not want to learn afrikaans.
Government failed the blacks, this is their response after not building schools for 30 years! We know it’s not a language thing, but blacks in South Africa 80% live off taxes because they keep voting for communism! The very communism that keeps them poor…
*Wow! I thought South Africa was a country in Africa that has a 85%-90% NATIVE DIASPORA? Why would yall adopt your oppressors language?*
@@804MRMAN you wrote this in english
@@tuanbah9067 GOOFY MY BLOODLINE WAS BROUGHT TO AMERICA, AND FORCED TO LEARN ENGLISH.
@@tuanbah9067 Next time think it through
you don't even know what the world diaspora means.
@@PodcastCentral333 You can't even spell word 🤣🤣🤣
Why not just teach in english across all schools? Then no one will have a reason to complain.
Section 29(2) of the South African Constitution states:
“Everyone has the right to receive education in the official language or languages of their choice in public educational institutions..."
@@darkgalaxy5548 It's unrealistic...if my home language is Venda and I live in KZN and the schools there teach in Zulu because 99% of students speak Zulu as their home language. If I tell the education department that I want to be taught in Venda, because that's my choice...are they going to hire extra teachers just for me?
English is one of the official languages, it should be used in all schools, saves the school bodies, government and tax payers, a lot of money
@@saitamadecember2806 It won't save any money, really. You'll have the same number of students, & the same number of teachers. Students will attend a school in their preferred medium, teachers will be assigned according to school needs.
@@darkgalaxy5548 You seem to be assuming there is enough qualified teachers for each of the eleven languages, but the reality is the numbers are skewed towards, English, Afrikaans and Zulu
So it's statistically impossible to have each student, being taught in their "chosen" language.
@@saitamadecember2806 Why do you assume there's not? Any mismatches would be temporary, until word gets out that Zulu speaking teachers in a particular subject are required. Bursaries could address such shortages. The only impracticality, as you say would be a one Venda child in a Zulu neighbourhood.
Importantly though, it is a Constitutional right for ever South African to receive instruction in an official language of their choice. Any attempt to make English the sole language of instruction would not survive a Constitutional Court challenge.
Afrikaans is a predominantly white language. It is clear whats happening.
Rubbish! 60% of mother tongue afrikaans speakers are Coloured.
Most Afrikaans speakers are Coloured, not white.
You don't know what you're talking about boet
@@5678efgh3 ek veet wat ek praat
what's happening?
Whatever the law may be ...we will always have Afrikaans
Ban it
1:24 only bunch of Colonisers
South africa is a disgrace to africa😢
ungasiphapheli wena🤣
@thabotdee4357Jou Ouma se suur kwas jou doos😂
Those are Khoisan mixed communities not Bantu people, Learn about 1976 - Student March.😂
A huge disgrace
Biggest disgrace
The translanguaging pedagogy could help expand repertoire in a language while respecting peoples' bilingualism.
A few key words in this. Public schools, sgb empowerement and feeder communities. It really gives the hod of province to over ride sgb policy in public schools if it doesnt serve the needs of the feeder communities. Thats good. Former model c schools? Thats race baiting. Former model c schools, whilst mostly white have budgets that are 15% covered by govt and are over subscribed by thier feeder communities(again, mostly white communities). Good luck arguing that to change. That school in the clip is mostly colored with home languages of Afrikaans. Try arguing the change in sgb policy thier. Wonderfully constructed race baiting clip
I think that's why English was invented to avoid this linguistic drama
English wasn’t invented, it came about.
English was not " invented " for this purpose. are you saying English is more relevant than your mother tongue. Have shame 😂
These comments are making me lose faith in humanity.
This is a slap in the face of South Africa's most victimised community: the Cape Coloured community. They constitute the largest segment of Afrikaans speakers, and they are despised by the Black ethnic communities who hide behind the "legacy of apartheid" instituted by white Afrikaaners. The Coloureds should not have to endure more descrimination from the Black majority after having suffered under apartheid themselves. This is proof that racism and hatred come in many forms.
We cant allow pupils to be excluded just because they don't want to speak afrikaans. This is Africa afterall.
Afrikaans people build the schools. Why don't they build their own schools and then they can teach the children in their own language.
It is a complicated scenario as South Africa has many different languages. One needs to take into consideration that is one want to yet into colleges or Universities when it comes to business mostly conducted in ENGLISH. One can speak their own home language yet to use this in schools one would have to open schools who teach in these different languages all over South Africa, or employ teachers who can converse in these different languages. A child who speaks Xhosa may want to go to an English speaking school. It would be their choice. One has to look at how will it benefit them in the business sector and workplaceand dealing with clients or customers here and abroad with all these different languages which will cause much confusion. One would constantly need hundreds of translators.
South Africa us not like a country like Germany or France etc., where their is a main language. Even many of these foreigners speak English. There are 11 different languages here??????
2 Thessalonians 2:10
[10]and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Sensationalism given how that's now what the law is doing lol
This Government they talk and repeat same thing as if they are doing things yet they do same thing
So instead of building new schools and creating more jobs and opportunities. They would rather just piggy back off of the work of the afrikaans man just like they have for the last 30 odd years... this makes me sick; when they fail here too they will then blame the afrikaaner again somehow
That’s another step back to apartheid there is reason why South Africa is called rainbow nation that language exists today but its not the original or the only language or the most spoken
The racists are going wild. 😂
If only your explanation is correct. ANC is known to eradicate Afrikaans as a language of education where ever they can.
We are teaching South African children a brand of English with a lot of errors in it. Te current standard of English in classrooms is subpar.
Its a coloniser's language anyway..who cares?
@@tumisangmafa2827 Apparently you, since you are speaking it?
Wasn't this the tipping point for Soweto Uprising
Build more schools!
Make South Africa Native Again
Make South Africa Great Again
We, the People of South Africa, declare for all our country and the world to know: that South Africa belongs to all who live in it, black and white
- Freedom Charter
Coloured are mixe of africaan people and koyisani people
Khoisan are Africans. Coloureds are Asians/ Europeans with some African DNA. They are mixed race
Honestly it's a colonial language. A majority of us on South 🇿🇦 Africa don't like that language. Only a certain a few South African's can speak. So scrap it and put it in the shelves.
It'll remain in the archives
Afrikaans is the 3rd most widely understood language in South Africa. It will remain so long after you're gone. Deal with it.
Seems fair to me
Loving this law
Apartheid has not end
Build your own facilities