philosophers psycholgosits and religious leaders need to be exterminated senior members of our society who regulate and govern our minds must all be purged especially those who govern ultradivine and superdivine authority. historians too.
I love the way he teaches, asking questions and getting the audience to participate and examining the different responses. It's such a good way to learn rather than only lecture.
philosophers psycholgosits and religious leaders need to be exterminated senior members of our society who regulate and govern our minds must all be purged especially those who govern ultradivine and superdivine authority. historians too.
Once a lecturer, always a lecturer. It was amazing to see how he managed to keep the audience rapt with attention. And more heart-warmingly, these past 20 minutes looked like a college reunion in all its nostalgia - the many adults sitting together once more for another lecture again. As if they simply were the undergraduates most undoubtly had once been.
philosophers psycholgosits and religious leaders need to be exterminated senior members of our society who regulate and govern our minds must all be purged especially those who govern ultradivine and superdivine authority. historians too.
!4 years ago this TED talk was offered, and here we are needing a global classroom more than ever - a kind of U.N. with equipment that would translate ideas, questions/answers, directly. What a wonderous world that would be.
I'm watching the Harvard University Justice course online. The problems raised there, the opinions of the attendees and the solutions excellently explained by Michael Sandel given by the great philosophers throughout history provide an invaluable starting point to maturely face the political and social problems of contemporary society and although No easy solutions can be found, the mere fact of understanding the problem in depth brings us some peace of mind, renews our energy, stimulates our imagination and the most surprising thing: boring is overcome and life becomes very fun and interesting.
philosophers psycholgosits and religious leaders need to be exterminated senior members of our society who regulate and govern our minds must all be purged especially those who govern ultradivine and superdivine authority. historians too.
Unfortunately, before any democratic debates could possibly be happening, any remarks that go against the pre-established political agenda is out of the question. The more I put myself on the path to learn more about justice and reasoning, the more helpless I sometimes feel. Optimism of the will, I suppose. That's why listening to this man is almost a source of consolation to me. Thank you, Mr. Sandel!
Here is a lecture he gave this last weekend, where he brings up what he thinks about the current political situation. www.hbs.edu/about/video.aspx?v=1_zxapxxlv
"Decision-making on major issues is now vested in international institutions which are so remote from public influence, that the public has no idea what's going on." Robert Barsky
Being a student from India , a country with reservation system. My immediate answer to the flute question was " Give it to a bad flutist " - because the good flutist has been given the flute and has mastered it. It is time to give more oppertunity to bad still enthusiastic flutists. Back in India that is what we call social justice.
I can't see why people would dislike this video, I applaud Michael Sandal in all I've seen of him in his 'justice: what's the right thing to do' and not because I always agree with him but because he presents it well and allows the audience to think for themselves when asking questions for votes of what they think and with each question is brought new light on the subject. Awesome Job at yet another great presentation. And I totally go for the idea of doing such presentations worldwide!!
I had to watch again right after the first because I wanted to hear him talk over and over again about democratic discourse. What a brilliant idea from an equally brilliant educator.
I find Michael Sandel very politically correct, and yet it doesn't prevent him from debating - actually it has the opposite effect. Anyone will love to engage in political debate with someone who listens well and reformulates, and who is clear and respectful.
Aw crud, for the first time I agree with Scalia. Also, though I agree that deeper political debate is vital, I must decry under the strongest possible terms the retreat to Aristotalean essentialism. What is important is not some mythical "essential character" of something as clearly man-made and mutable as a sport, but the benefit or drawbacks of each decision. Really interested to hear what Michael Sandel would have to say about Karl Popper...
Politicians are not interested in issues of moral philosophy and justice. They are interested in the path of least resistance to maintaining their power, in getting re-elected. What counts for that is is fifteen second soundbites, promising the moon and to hell with the future, that's the next election. We need to address this structural problem in our political system if we ever want it to improve. We need single term limits, no re-election, ever. But double the stay in office perhaps.
Hes right, people always only looks at the negative side of everything instead of looking at the pro's of the argument and what said debate is really about.
I think it can be pretty obvious who better flute players are. Music tests are an option. Ability to play certain things and also the ability to play certain things and in certain manners regarding how the original composer of the piece intended it to be heard.
16:27 “There is a tendency to think that if we engage too directly with moral questions in politics, that’s a recipe for disagreement, and for that matter, a recipe for intolerance and coercion. So better to shy away from, to ignore, the moral and religious convictions that people bring to civic life. It seems to me that our discussion reflects the opposite, that a better way to mutual respect is to engage directly with the moral convictions citizens bring to public life, rather than to require that people leave their deepest moral convictions outside politics before they enter. That, it seems to me, is a way to begin to restore the art of democratic argument.”
Justice Scalia's argument is fallacious for a third and more important reason: golf on the PGA tour is a "productive activity". PGA players don't have other jobs, this is their source of income, and they devote many hours per day to it. In a situation where a man's applying for a job is at stake, to say that the essential nature of that job cannot be considered as the job has no actual purpose is ridiculous. The purpose is to win, and in so doing to gain money.
Instead of holding a lecture in front of students around the world, maybe it would be best to do it in front of politicians and journalists. They're the ones who really need it.
'Golfers are very sensitive about the athletic status of their game'.. I agree with you though, pro golf is something else, but it still works in the case of his overall argument.
@throwsparx That is pretty much the opposite of what a debate is about. Debate is about bringing up the pros AND the cons. Through use of logic and reason, weighing these positives and negatives lead the observer of said debate figuring out which side (if any) is the logical position to hold.
Well is it not just obvious that any person that thinks normally would come to the conclusion that the best flute should be distributed to the best flute player or players. But the world does not function on this wavelengh, there are many other factors at play.It would have been more interesting to state that all aspiring players who show true potential and are persistent should be given the best flutes in the sense that the quality of the flute should not be a factor in ruining the performance of an aspiring candidate, now that would be true justice.
I think another obstacle to democratic debate in the modern age is the whole political party system. Politicians find themselves obligated to blindly and emphatically side with their fellow party members on virtually every issue. Thus, they become gridlocked, or even worse, fail to consider viable third-options (such as giving everyone a golf cart, or leaving the government out of marriages altogether).
Aristotle was a great man. But other great men sometimes disagreed with him. I think Bastiat was correct when he said "justice is the absence of injustice".
Can't quite put my finger on why this didn't work for me. Morality has very little to do with religion in my mind. He lumped those two together in the end which threw me off.
Your concern is understandable. However, I think the point is we should encourage those who have religious moral objections to be honest that their objection is based on a personal belief and not on the evidence.
I was going to say, the people with the potential for being the best flute players, provided owning the best flute brings out that potential in them. Another way of putting it would be, the people who eventually make people happiest with their flutes.
***** I would have to agree, I would've have suggested that the best flutes be given to those who were not the best flute players as a personal incentive for them to achieve the goal of becoming one of the best players.
+OolTube02 Assuming a utilitarian model, yes. But Sandel operates out of a virtue ethics model. The object of any activity that one considers a practice is the cultivation of the virtues. The principle is concerned with a teleological conception of justice, rather than a consequentialist one.
Thats assuming that you can tell before they've even started learning who has the most potential and who will work hardest to become the best player. There's no way of knowing this in advance and to tell people who've only started to learn that they have less talent than others seems to me to be wrong. Give beginners a slightly worst flute and as they get better they can get an upgrade.
+OolTube02 not universally true, like +Rodion Raskolnikov said, listen again to what Sandel said. We could not decide who should have the flute if we haven't decide what purpose it serve. A flute purpose does not always comes down to make people happy. If there are no people like to listen to flute, what happens then? if that flute is suppose to give people a chance to learn how to play flute, then who gets it? and we are too prejudice who is the best flute player, today it might be you, but tomorrow maybe some else.
Anyone... please let me know...did Mr. Sandel's dream project took off .... ?? I didn't hear about anything like that happening in India what he proposed... it was 7 years back so i might be missing something.. !!
I saw a youtube of his interactive lecture in Japan; I also saw him interviewed by a German journalist. The success of these projects depends on the knowledge and skill of the lecturer. Also, the quality -- the background education and experience -- of the interlocutor would vary in potential civic debates. I think it's interesting that in this TED talk, the debates seemed not from moral passion, but from defining the nature, essence, or purpose of an institution or practice.
I just finished his Justice course online. I feel so good!
Same here man. Are there more lectures like that online?
@a k Wdym?
I just finished as well, is it strange to want to watch it again? 🤓
How many videos overall?
Like 25 Lectures
What a legend. His free lecture series on justice is absolutely phenomenal!
philosophers psycholgosits and religious leaders need to be exterminated senior members of our society who regulate and govern our minds must all be purged especially those who govern ultradivine and superdivine authority. historians too.
I love the way he teaches, asking questions and getting the audience to participate and examining the different responses. It's such a good way to learn rather than only lecture.
philosophers psycholgosits and religious leaders need to be exterminated senior members of our society who regulate and govern our minds must all be purged especially those who govern ultradivine and superdivine authority. historians too.
Suddenly felt like I am watching his "justice" in the giant Harvard hall when he was giving the lecture
Once a lecturer, always a lecturer. It was amazing to see how he managed to keep the audience rapt with attention. And more heart-warmingly, these past 20 minutes looked like a college reunion in all its nostalgia - the many adults sitting together once more for another lecture again. As if they simply were the undergraduates most undoubtly had once been.
the way you build and present an argument Professor Sandel is incredible! It's inspiring! Thank you for your work sir!
I love this guy.... he never ceases to amaze me!
+Nizzy M seen the "Justice" series?
+85Damix of course yes!
Same here!
Hear Hear!
philosophers psycholgosits and religious leaders need to be exterminated senior members of our society who regulate and govern our minds must all be purged especially those who govern ultradivine and superdivine authority. historians too.
I would love if there was a discussion group like he was talking about. I have longed been saddened by the lack of real discussion in our society.
Let's start one!
Beautifully done. The way he brings you through that was so logical and shows he's an excellent educator. Well done, sir!
Would love witnessing Mr. Sandel here in India. You can sure make students back here explore with you the subjects of justice and morality.
Quite agree...and would love to see it happen in Calcutta !
!4 years ago this TED talk was offered, and here we are needing a global classroom more than ever - a kind of U.N. with equipment that would translate ideas, questions/answers, directly. What a wonderous world that would be.
I'm watching the Harvard University Justice course online. The problems raised there, the opinions of the attendees and the solutions excellently explained by Michael Sandel given by the great philosophers throughout history provide an invaluable starting point to maturely face the political and social problems of contemporary society and although No easy solutions can be found, the mere fact of understanding the problem in depth brings us some peace of mind, renews our energy, stimulates our imagination and the most surprising thing: boring is overcome and life becomes very fun and interesting.
His class is the most interesting, most helpful, most fun class I have ever had since I came to this world.
You lucky SOB. 😊
It's awesome to hear the classical form of argumentation, and to see the incredible longevity of these philosophical traditions.
philosophers psycholgosits and religious leaders need to be exterminated senior members of our society who regulate and govern our minds must all be purged especially those who govern ultradivine and superdivine authority. historians too.
Mr Michael Sandel, one of the greatest minds of the modern world!
Unfortunately, before any democratic debates could possibly be happening, any remarks that go against the pre-established political agenda is out of the question. The more I put myself on the path to learn more about justice and reasoning, the more helpless I sometimes feel. Optimism of the will, I suppose. That's why listening to this man is almost a source of consolation to me. Thank you, Mr. Sandel!
Simply The Best! Always trilled by his provocations and debates! Never stop!
And I am very glad that there are people who share his knowledge in such a nice way as Michael Sandel.
Boy, he was giving this lecture in 2010. I wonder if he has totally lost faith in the human race after 2016.
Here is a lecture he gave this last weekend, where he brings up what he thinks about the current political situation. www.hbs.edu/about/video.aspx?v=1_zxapxxlv
Thank you very much for the link!
Robert Wales wooop thanks for the link
Thank you for the link
So, he shouldn't see 2020
That was one heck of a passionate talk by Professor Sandel. Enjoyed it thoroughly.
Sandel's lectures open up eyes to re-examine the established order and belief of the days.
"Decision-making on major issues is now vested in international institutions which are so remote from public influence, that the public has no idea what's going on." Robert Barsky
This is one of the most interesting videos I have listened to in a long time. Excellent :))
BRILLIANT!!
This man is great
Being a student from India , a country with reservation system. My immediate answer to the flute question was " Give it to a bad flutist " - because the good flutist has been given the flute and has mastered it. It is time to give more oppertunity to bad still enthusiastic flutists. Back in India that is what we call social justice.
I love how he interacts with the audience :)
I can't see why people would dislike this video, I applaud Michael Sandal in all I've seen of him in his 'justice: what's the right thing to do' and not because I always agree with him but because he presents it well and allows the audience to think for themselves when asking questions for votes of what they think and with each question is brought new light on the subject. Awesome Job at yet another great presentation. And I totally go for the idea of doing such presentations worldwide!!
Great lecturer ☘️ I enjoyed every second of your videos .
how can 34 people dislike this? Sandel is one of the best academics of our day.
great man, great thought, wow
Fantastic speaker.
Brilliant lecturer. Brilliant academic. I would give my right arm to attend a lecture by this man💯🫶🏻😄
Very interesting and engaging. He deserves praise.
This needs more views, this guy is incredible!
I had to watch again right after the first because I wanted to hear him talk over and over again about democratic discourse. What a brilliant idea from an equally brilliant educator.
A huge obstacle for democratic debate I see in this day & age , it’s the so called “political correctness”
Indeed... one couldn't even ask "why" one must be politically correct!
I find Michael Sandel very politically correct, and yet it doesn't prevent him from debating - actually it has the opposite effect. Anyone will love to engage in political debate with someone who listens well and reformulates, and who is clear and respectful.
MS: “Warren, are u a golfer?”
W: “I’m not a golfer.”
C: “And i am.”
Cool lady 😆
Eu amo esse cara, ele nunca cessa de me surpreender
I love how Sandel always gets the audience involved. His Harvard lectures are great.
I love and enjoy his conferences...
I was making the same comment to my philosophy professor a few days ago on the lost art of democratic debate . He agreed
what a great speaker.
he spoke of great wisdom , and makes me think twice on my strategy of arguing . (intro to philosophy 101)
Instead it seems The lost art of democratic lecture .
Loved it oll the way from Harverd to TeD
A great man I ever seen
I have just finished the justice course the right thing to do and it was an honor to take it
i watch this guy for relaxation he has a very calm voice
Very good talk, kudos to him
Phenomenological foundation for ethics!! Heck yes!
Who came here after the presidential "debate"? 😂
He’s a great thinker indeed
Aw crud, for the first time I agree with Scalia.
Also, though I agree that deeper political debate is vital, I must decry under the strongest possible terms the retreat to Aristotalean essentialism. What is important is not some mythical "essential character" of something as clearly man-made and mutable as a sport, but the benefit or drawbacks of each decision.
Really interested to hear what Michael Sandel would have to say about Karl Popper...
Was ein Glück, dass wir heute RUclips haben. Ich finde es echt mega, solche Videos jederzeit kostenlos anschauen zu dürfen. Ein Hoch auf die Moderne!
In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?
John 14:2
Imagine if college lectures were more like this talk, instead of monotonous one-way communication or video watching.
The golfer question was a serendipity at it's best.
you can watch his classes on-line:)
He is brilliant!
HIGHLY INFORMATIVE
Always ready for your lecture.. professor. :)
his wish about global classroom actually came true with edX.
Here after His Justice lectures
Politicians are not interested in issues of moral philosophy and justice. They are interested in the path of least resistance to maintaining their power, in getting re-elected. What counts for that is is fifteen second soundbites, promising the moon and to hell with the future, that's the next election. We need to address this structural problem in our political system if we ever want it to improve. We need single term limits, no re-election, ever. But double the stay in office perhaps.
Hes right, people always only looks at the negative side of everything instead of looking at the pro's of the argument and what said debate is really about.
So good
Please do so as China desperately needs this kind of talk.
I think it can be pretty obvious who better flute players are. Music tests are an option. Ability to play certain things and also the ability to play certain things and in certain manners regarding how the original composer of the piece intended it to be heard.
16:27
“There is a tendency to think that if we engage too directly with moral questions in politics, that’s a recipe for disagreement, and for that matter, a recipe for intolerance and coercion. So better to shy away from, to ignore, the moral and religious convictions that people bring to civic life. It seems to me that our discussion reflects the opposite, that a better way to mutual respect is to engage directly with the moral convictions citizens bring to public life, rather than to require that people leave their deepest moral convictions outside politics before they enter. That, it seems to me, is a way to begin to restore the art of democratic argument.”
Sir, I am your biggest fan.. and your though for a "global classroom"..!! incredible ☺👍would love to be a part of such larger ambition..
Thank
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All politicians should be required to a Michael Sandel class.
l love this man and the way he lecture.
I really love this guy. He discusses things with substance. This is almost the same discussion that he had inside the Harvard Hall in his class.
incredible.
how can I enjoy the global discussions by video meeting?
This is kinda repetition after watching the "Justice with Michael Sandel"... Yet understandable, still a great argumenting with clarity.
Love this guy
Who came here after the presidential "debate"? 😂
It's awesome 😊
Superb!
Justice Scalia's argument is fallacious for a third and more important reason: golf on the PGA tour is a "productive activity". PGA players don't have other jobs, this is their source of income, and they devote many hours per day to it. In a situation where a man's applying for a job is at stake, to say that the essential nature of that job cannot be considered as the job has no actual purpose is ridiculous. The purpose is to win, and in so doing to gain money.
@KingofNH I a gree. My only regret watching those is that I couldn't partake in any of the debates myself.
Instead of holding a lecture in front of students around the world, maybe it would be best to do it in front of politicians and journalists. They're the ones who really need it.
if only we had everyone in the U.S watched this.
'Golfers are very sensitive about the athletic status of their game'.. I agree with you though, pro golf is something else, but it still works in the case of his overall argument.
i just got interested with any debate stuffs, and now im here in 2021 watching the 10 years ago video
Mr. Michael Sandel please run for president 👏👏👏
@throwsparx That is pretty much the opposite of what a debate is about. Debate is about bringing up the pros AND the cons. Through use of logic and reason, weighing these positives and negatives lead the observer of said debate figuring out which side (if any) is the logical position to hold.
I just watch him on TED stage , 11-year video. He really interacted and eyed-contact technique
Well is it not just obvious that any person that thinks normally would come to the conclusion that the best flute should be distributed to the best flute player or players. But the world does not function on this wavelengh, there are many other factors at play.It would have been more interesting to state that all aspiring players who show true potential and are persistent should be given the best flutes in the sense that the quality of the flute should not be a factor in ruining the performance of an aspiring candidate, now that would be true justice.
This man is a true G
I am impossibly glad that Dan Brown brought me to this video
The USA needs to implement the televised party debates that are broadcast in the UK on free tv for everyone to watch.
Super analysis 😂u r great 👍🎉
15:07 This increased my faith in humanity
I think another obstacle to democratic debate in the modern age is the whole political party system. Politicians find themselves obligated to blindly and emphatically side with their fellow party members on virtually every issue. Thus, they become gridlocked, or even worse, fail to consider viable third-options (such as giving everyone a golf cart, or leaving the government out of marriages altogether).
THANK YOU!
18:29 🤞🤞
zatiaľ je skoro december ale počasie 🔥 je teplé
Aristotle was a great man. But other great men sometimes disagreed with him. I think Bastiat was correct when he said "justice is the absence of injustice".
Can't quite put my finger on why this didn't work for me. Morality has very little to do with religion in my mind. He lumped those two together in the end which threw me off.
Your concern is understandable. However, I think the point is we should encourage those who have religious moral objections to be honest that their objection is based on a personal belief and not on the evidence.
I was going to say, the people with the potential for being the best flute players, provided owning the best flute brings out that potential in them.
Another way of putting it would be, the people who eventually make people happiest with their flutes.
***** I would have to agree, I would've have suggested that the best flutes be given to those who were not the best flute players as a personal incentive for them to achieve the goal of becoming one of the best players.
+OolTube02 I can agree, though, the best flute players can play any flute and make it sound great.
+OolTube02 Assuming a utilitarian model, yes. But Sandel operates out of a virtue ethics model. The object of any activity that one considers a practice is the cultivation of the virtues. The principle is concerned with a teleological conception of justice, rather than a consequentialist one.
Thats assuming that you can tell before they've even started learning who has the most potential and who will work hardest to become the best player. There's no way of knowing this in advance and to tell people who've only started to learn that they have less talent than others seems to me to be wrong. Give beginners a slightly worst flute and as they get better they can get an upgrade.
+OolTube02 not universally true, like +Rodion Raskolnikov said, listen again to what Sandel said. We could not decide who should have the flute if we haven't decide what purpose it serve. A flute purpose does not always comes down to make people happy. If there are no people like to listen to flute, what happens then? if that flute is suppose to give people a chance to learn how to play flute, then who gets it? and we are too prejudice who is the best flute player, today it might be you, but tomorrow maybe some else.
Anyone... please let me know...did Mr. Sandel's dream project took off .... ?? I didn't hear about anything like that happening in India what he proposed... it was 7 years back so i might be missing something.. !!
I saw a youtube of his interactive lecture in Japan; I also saw him interviewed by a German journalist. The success of these projects depends on the knowledge and skill of the lecturer. Also, the quality -- the background education and experience -- of the interlocutor would vary in potential civic debates. I think it's interesting that in this TED talk, the debates seemed not from moral passion, but from defining the nature, essence, or purpose of an institution or practice.
Nice video