Why Did I Ruin One Of The Rarest Muscle Cars Of All Time?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The Ford Talladega is one of the rarest Muscle cars of all time with only 745 ever produced and it was only around for 1 year. I ruined one of them with making it my own, did I ruin it or make it better, you decide?? With all the craziness going on we finally made it up north and I give you a short tour of the pole barn and some of the summer toys up there. Also I go into detail with the cars that appealed to me and how I made some cash flipping cars as a kid, and my car of choice will surprise you... hint it's not a Chevrolet...
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How is that car ruined? It's not like you bought a numbers matching all original and took a torch to it. You built a beautiful work of art that pays homage to its racing roots. Be proud of that!
yes exactly the truth
100% correct. Not ruined at all it is sick as f.... Finally a Ford that I like as well.
ABSOLUTELY!!!!! Beautiful car. I like it
Completely agree. If it were a full numbers matching car then I'd say leave it, but it didn't even have an engine. Thats a free ticket to build it the way you want it.
Even if he did, its his car what business is that of ours
It was already an unoriginal car without the original drive train. The fact that you did not alter the body line is good enough. It is gorgeous.
I'm a Ford guy and I was getting ready to be pissed off, I was waiting for the old LS stuff but you impressed me. Thanks for leaving it brand specific, beautiful!
If it didn't come to you bone OEM stock, anything you do to it doesn't ruin it. It looks great and even keeping it Ford with the Coyote swap just glorifies the manufacturer's dedication to racing at that time. Awesome in my opinion!
You didn't ruin anything. The people who think that just don't have any ability to dream or reach for goals. You've done something incredible and it's something you are passionate about. The only thing that matters is if YOU are happy with it.
Ruined? Yea right! That’s the baddest Talladega I’ve ever seen!
The car looks amazing certainly not ruined.
I like what you did with the Talladega. If I could afford a Daytona, I'd do some similar mods with a Hellcat Hemi - and make it a driver. These cars were meant to be driven, not museum pieces.
Totally Gorgeous car, Definitely not Ruined
so it's basically a resto-mod, Those are pretty well accepted now and some even go for crazy cash. It looks amazing, nice job.
Not only seeing “the most beautiful” example of of the Talladega. Then, getting to virtually sit with Tom, sipping on the best beer ever made “Yuengling” hearing you explain how you got into the world of motorsports.. Well my friend, you have just made my morning.. Respect on the highest level, from Ireland 🇮🇪 🍀🇺🇸🏎💨🦅
Dude, you took a modern motor of the same manufacture, got Roadstershop - the ultimate chassis builder - to build you a custom one-off chassis for the car, and then completed the build to make it look. Correct with modern improvements. I have no arguments with this. I would do the exact same thing if I had a car like that. Bravo! Looks so dope!!!
I think your Talladega is a work of art, only way it could have been ruined would to put an LS in it. 😂
He should pull the coyote and LS swap it just to piss them off
I agree LS the F out a it
Totally agree! No POS Chebbie engine!
I’m a dodge guy and would never chebby swap it. I’ would have built a. Psycho 351 Cleveland
@@jeffrogosz383 even though It could never compete with an LS of today power and reliability wise sure why not . First thing I did after blowing my 5.0 up twice with a measly 550 whp was LS swap it and now I'm making 950whp and on year 3 never looked back.. ford engines back then are junk and can't compete with updated stuff and coyotes are just to expensive to build right unless you can do it and it's not as simple as the LS platform so that's why I really had no choice if I wanted to go fast
As an LS fan I can appreciate putting a Coyote in a car like this.
You didn’t destroy it. The car wasn’t numbers matching!!!You did a very tasteful piece.
I would rather have a Tom Bailey Talladega than a pure Talladega.
Awesome Talladega, I love that you kept the body stock so it looks like it should, and I am certain that in 1969 if they would of had the time and technologies we have today they would have done it the same way (probably not) the car is better than it was in 69, great build!
In no way is this car "ruined"! When you got it it was already a bucket seat manual, that right there is enough to open the flood gates.
Greetz from far away, from germany.
With my words:
"Give a shit about criticism and went your way of your own and your way was trulyest the right one"
My dad has a 1969 Mercury Cyclone GT with a 428 CJ. It's such an incredible car.
I learned to drive in the winter in a half-built Mustang GT with 4.10 gears and bald rear tires. 😅😂
Reviving an old muscle car is awesome!!! I think the work you put in it was well worth it. You didn't ruin it you made it better
I was actually one of the 2 guys that swapped the trans, pedal box/linkage and steering column into that car while working for Dr. Ford. I had no idea he sold it (like Tom said, he was told the car would never be sold again) It was a fun project to be a part of and it was cool to be a part of.
The shape reminds me of the Australian Ford XA-XC coupe, ironically the last model was the XC Cobra and apparently the Talladega was based on the Fairlane Cobra.
Giving muscle cars more muscle is not ruining them.
I am 68 years old been a Hotroder all my life . My first car was a 57 Ranchero with a 427 four-speed my dad did not know what that was about but it was great your story brings back great memories I’m still your grandma my daughters love dad because I drive version street rods and I do burnouts all the time!
I would throw the 69 Dodge Charger 500 in to aero car group too. It has similar treatment as the Talladega. Grill move out flush with hood and back glass sloped back even with c-pillars.
And the 500 couldn't beat the Talladega, and Cyclone, so that's why the Daytona (later 1969) and Superbird (1970, also to lure Richard Petty back) were created.
Who else can sense how pissed Tom is about Hans machine?
Go look up the MSRP on that machine and then imagine having one sitting unable to keep its advertised tolerances for two months.
Hans or Haas?
@@jaymac2184 The latter.
My first car was a 68 Fairlane fastback which is the exact same body style. Back in the 70’s you put air shocks on them and jack them up in the rear, it was metal flake red with the Torino hood scoop and Cragars and M50’s on the rear lol. What a great first car I wish I had it back 👍🏼
The Ford is killer! I love that it doesn’t have a “B” pillar and that back window is huge!
Beautiful car Tom. The front end is very similar to a 80’s/90’s Ford Capri over here in the UK🇬🇧
you got it as a roller and paid homage to it's history with the build you did.. it is awesome.. people talking shit about ruining it are so far off base and do not deal in collectible cars.. it had no intrinsic value when you first got it..for a real collector... none.. it would not fetch a high price at any auction by a collector..it would fetch what someone was willing to pay for a cool car from history that was non matching and not a full "original" restore. you did great and i love it..my first car was a 68 torino and she was a beast and stout... blew a head gasket on her and still raced a dodge 500 with a 440 drag pack and won and still made it the 35 miles home .. was idling by the time we got there.. drove up friend jumped out and grabbed a hose and we cooled her down.. next week motor was out and sent off.. nothing was ruined.. kept the original bore also... was a beautiful thing...but the sad story comes next.. house fire and she was destroyed in the garage after getting her back together... she still had the original plastic on the seatbelts LOL my dad and uncles drove that car .. was my grandma's.. she promised me i could have it when i got old enough to drive and at 15 she handed me the keys and said there ya go.. promise made.. promise kept...i do miss it a ton and still look around for another one.. but my friend you did nothing wrong but give that car new life and another legacy!!!!!! my thanks!!
Restomodding a car is improving it , I can’t stand Weinerheads who praise 60’s technology especially brakes and suspension/steering . People work hard for their money and can do whatever the hell they want with them , I applaud you Tom .
This car is far from being ruined. I love that you put a Coyote not a Ls in it.
I had a Dan Gurney Cyclone 25 years ago. If you looked under the front fenders, you could see where they added patch pieces and extend the front of the nose. (They left the weld seams and painted over them) The Cyclones were all a 351 W motor.
I'm not a Ford guy, but by gods, that is a fantastic car.
31:50, sounds similar to my Chevy Van… Had the 60 series with the raised white lettering on the sidewalls on the back end. The previous owner also went with the lower profile 50 series front tires. Trying to recall if they were L-60’s on the rear wheels and G-50’s in the front… Going by memory here, it has been well over 40 years ago now.. Thanks for bringing up the good old memories. [(When buying our first couple of vehicles was a big-deal), (to a young person)]. Your channel here on Y.T. is an eye riveting watch. Thanks for your recording time.
You didn’t ruin anything your respect for the history and yet improving with modern technology is what the engineering of that car was all about to start with.
Mr. Speirs, you are correct!! Coming from a pretty large Blue Oval family, and being a pretty picky purist, I don't think I've ever seen such an amazing "ruination" of a rare car!! I am fairly familiar with Talladega's and Cycolone's and their rarity. But, with the original drive train long gone, the sky's the limit, and Tom absolutely nailed it!!!!!
That license plate is brilliant and hilarious.
NOTGD4U
The 70 Couger should get a 427 SOHC Fuel injected, with twin Precision 94's, full tube chassis on bags with a sequential 6spd trans. That would be sick!
I love what you did with the Talladega TT really sweet build. Take care Tom and family, can't wait for the next video!!!
Fun fact the Talladega debuted at Daytona speedway and the Daytona debuted at Talladega speedway. As far as being ruined no its not ruined, it's your car do what you want with it. Personally I like the fact that you drive it and the fact you kept the bodylines stock means you did it correctly.
While I do appreciate a musclecar restored to factory stock as much as anybody, I don't think you did wrong with your Talladega. Especially considering the condition it was when you got it. It's gorgeous the way it is right now. Hey- I also used to own a 1974 Nova SS hatchback! It was my college car in the late 80's, and was gold with a 350/2bbl, automatic, and white & black interior. I loved how much stuff it could carry with the back seat folded down- great for moving back home after the semester was finished. I didn't find out until later how rare of a car it was. By the time I was finished with it it was rusted beyond repair, considering I drove it through several Minnesota winters (road salt SUCKS!). Thanks for the great video!
Only way it would have been "ruined" is if the heart was Ls, this is a beautiful car!
Since the Talladega didn't come with an engine and drive train, you didn't ruin it by putting in a new one. You've given the car new life, and it looks like it will be around for a long time to come.
I know what you mean by "up north". I'm in southern Ontario, so we're sorta "neighbours". Up north for me means a seven hour drive to northern Ontario.
Personally I prefer somewhat period correct mods, using period correct engines and hiding all the newer technology.
However you have done it very tastefully and neatly, this is the first modern drivetrain in a classic I can actually appreciate for just being so clean...
Sounds like your grandma's car needs a 7.3 Godzilla.
is that the v10
@@patrickdean9797 no, new pushrod V8 that replaced the V10 for truck use.
@@mw4992 7. 3 that is 460 right?
@@patrickdean9797 No relation to the old 460, it’s an all-new engine. It’s actually about 445 cubic inches.
The short time the 7.3 has been out they already have them pushing 1100+ hp. Since the car he was talking about has a stock 351 I don't know how that's less hp. I'm not talking about the car this video is about.
My grandmother had a Chrysler 300 Hurst when I was a kid in the late 80's. I remember coming out of a store there would be notes on the car with phone numbers of people asking to sell the car to them.. I wish they would have kept it but she sold it in the mid 90's right before I got my license..
Great stories. I find myself going over the cars I have owned and get depressed but wouldn't change a thing except keeping them all.....somewhere.
You didn’t ruin it! 1 It’s your car. 2 You bought it as a roller, previous owner took the factory heart out of it. 3 you have kept the body original except for headlights and wrap! I’m sure you kept the original frame! But end of the day it’s your car and your vision! I love it!
This car is incredible. Amazing job on the build Tom!
Hi Tom, I was up in George Elliott's (Bill's father) Ford Dealership, then mid-1970s, outside Dahlonega, GA in an old school building. We would joke with George about needing more space and just knocking a wall down to use the area of two classrooms. They were already putting NASCARs together back then and in that old school.
George had an overgrown area in back, formerly the playground, that was sort of a used car lot, junkyard and overflow parking. Nothing was marked so you couldn't tell what was what; however, George had been buying up the Ford Talladega and Mercury Cyclone Spoiler II models. There were several of each one out there and all were used. By the time those cars' values started rising, George had moved into Dahlonega proper and the Cyclones and Talladegas were gone. Oh, the great deals I've missed just like my choice or both; mint 1965 Mustang Fastback or red 1957 T Bird for $1,500 each.
That Talladega is Bad Ass !!!! License plates spot on.!!!
You didn't ruin it, you made it your own. Cars are meant to be driven and played with, not to sit and gawk at. Anyone that says you ruined it is not a true car guy, they are investment guys
From Ohio originally as well. Moved to Michigan in 83. Love the channel!!! Was gonna start a bracket car build this year but with Milan closed I lost the motivation.
I feel that outside a foolish LS or LT swap, making it a gasser (w/ blown hemi) would’ve been a butchered conversion.
Excellent story on your background. I loved it to hear the way you got into this and your move from small to the big time.
If it had been complete and you needed to rehab it and did what you did instead, then yeah. But, since there was no original drivetrain...what an awesome canvas to start with to make it your own! I really like it, and that's coming from a 1960s Ford kid. Love that you kept it a true Ford with the Coyote engine, and that you kept the lines of the body intact. Uncle Tony's Garage made a video of a visit to an elderly Ford racing guy from back at that time, and he had one of these in its original configuration. It's the only other one I've ever seen other than in an old photo. I also remember a high school classmate of mine had a Mercury Cyclone that I was jealous as hell of.
That car isn’t ruined, it’s a amazing and very clean build.
Absolutely beautiful not ruined at all I would drive the wheels off of that.
I love the story about driving your van with 60's on it in the winter. I'm from Michigan also I drove a Olds F85 with Douglas Grab N GO 60's to HighSchool in 1977 fun fun fun in the winter 😀
Love the car! Love your toy tour! And appreciate the stories.
I’m a relatively new follower and there’s a lot I don’t know. So I don’t know the history with your wife, nor is it my business, but my condolences to you and the family. I lost my mom years ago and people say “sorry to hear”, and so I get it, there’s no much you can say. It is what it is. But losing a parent, even as an adult effects you. And I hope I don’t outlive my; kids, siblings, or spouse if I ever have one. I’m sure it has a lifetime impact, and my heart goes out to you guys. 🙏
TB....you HAVE to tell me who did the floors where the Talladega was sit'n ! ! CRAZY badass man .
You made that old icon a car you can actually use now. Its not that far from factory and the upgrades made it a safer vehicle. Looks awsome!
Omni and Shelby Charger(GLH and GLHS) fun cars! I also learned to drive in the snow in Pa in a 77 Malibu, open rear, with an N/50 on the back. Great memories!
Ya wanna cruise the lake in comfort or do you want Uncle Roman to blow some coin on a kickass jet boat? As soon as i saw "suck my wake" i started laughing. Great movie.
Lol. I was 16 and bought a 70 Camaro I built a 327/300 for. 3.08:1 open. G60s on the rear. I learned how to drive in the snow (Maryland) in that - never did I get stuck. Great training!
I love a factory build but there's nothing cooler than a slick mean resto mod
I think you saying about your growing up years is extremely important to me as I come from a working background and have achieved well also. Thanks Tom love the channel.🤟⚡🙏☕👍🙌👏👏👏👋👋
Most of us think of springs & rims when we talk 'stance'. Tom adds full chassis to that discussion like its a decision on lunch. 1970 Torino SCJ is one of the sweetest two doors from Ford in my opinion. Love the Talladega & always amazed how these & Torino's are not that popular.
You didn’t ruin this car Tom. You made it even better than it already was. It was a roller without a power train. If it were an all matching numbers car, it might have been different, but you took it to the next level! Very cool car!
Thumbs up on the Talladega!! My mom's family grew up on a farm in MI, gramma had a summer house on a lake. I grew up in SO CA. First car I loved as a kid was my cousins from MI 64 Dart GT 273 4spd I owned and built 5 Darts 64-68. Thanks for doing the videos it kinda feels like home.
You sir are one badass individual. I am really digging the history and background. "Story time with Tom Bailey"
My mind is blown! Not because of the tally, but the fact that I've seen that bike and I live 30 minutes from M1. I didn't realize you live in metro Detroit as well. Cool stuff brother.
high school grad..1988...1977 green GMC truck...350 4bbl...cam...fastest car in school...might have done 15's...then 1971 monte carlo..350..4bbl cam..it ripped....next one 1968 396 chevelle SS...with a truck block 454...done nicely by me...got it into the low 13's.......it was the fastest car in town in 1989.....amazing that a 13.07..made you a target in 1989.
Learning to drive in Michigan winters as a kid was the best!
Beautiful car. My brother lives 5 minutes from M1 and I live in Troy. Love your upnorth gig!
My first car was a 73' olds 98 with a 455cid rocket engine. Then I got my grandpa's 1983 Chevy Beauville van 3speed on the floor straight 6.
No way is it destroyed. I am thankful you took the time to save it! It is beautiful!
You call it an education with an RHD degree.....Root Hog or, Die. All good Tom, nice to know you a little better. We have a lot in common namely, common sense and hard work. I've never been unemployed, never on unemployment checks, no stimulus, been in this little Asian import service and sales for 33 years. Nice to look back and see blessings of all kinds, especially memories!! Take care. 🏁
That is beautiful , better than factory , When I was Young I got my hands on a 70 Torino GT 429CJ C6 auto , Front buckets , shifter on the floor , Regret getting rid if it !
Nice Job, as a Ford guy I can tell you a Ford fanatic would probably keep it in his A/C garage and trailer it to car shows and tell anybody who would listen how this was a dominant car in NASCAR racing but he never actually saw a NASCAR race.
Great story's Tom. All of us at a mature and wise age can relate.
I really enjoy listening to your history and early car collection. I didn’t get my first car until I was almost 19. My neighbor gave me his old work car, a 1963 Pontiac Star Chief. It was a pile of rust but did have a strong 389 and L78 studded snow tires.
Not seeing how this car is ruined....love how you upgraded a Ford and I believe a guy before you did the same thing....think his name was something like Shelby or Shelly...never heard anybody ever say he "ruined" the model he selected. .....Nice, nice, nice car
Our "Up North " in Minnesota is 5.5 hours an 3 miles from Canadian border. Nor'Wester Lodge on the Gunflint Trail. :)
I understand the car isn't stock but what you have done with it is so beautiful. I would love to own this car or one like it one day. I'm not much of a Ford person either but like you this is a different story.
As soon as you said chassis, i knew the shocktowers were gone, and I don't blame you.. Ford made decent looking cars but the suspension engineering in the late 50's design for the falcon and later the mustang then everything but the big cars and trucks was not ford's finest moment..I had a 69 fairlane wagon back in the day, 351 2v car.. kinda wished i had that back..
Love how you gave it a boosted Coyote. "Boost rated" Now does that mean its sleeved or just stronger pistons/ rods, hopefully it doesn't mean lower than stock compression cuz Coyotes really need it and the reason why its been 12:1 since 2018 even on the trucks.
I think your Talladega is better than original. The stance is perfect. Gotta love them Polaris sleds. I had an 87 Dodge Shadow turbo. Was the first car I worked on and made faster for cheap. The dit down bit is neat, it's a nice change of pace.
Car isnt ruined, at least its seeing rubber to the road instead of being a garage ornament and can be appreciated for its heritage and rarity that would never had been known of in somebodys garage collection.
84 Camaro, jasper, b&m shift kit with ratchet shifter. Real posi 410. Maryland winter fun. Really does teach you to drive.
Summer fun too.
I think its a Beautiful Resto-mod that appears to be extremely well executed. Cars are machines/tools that are meant to be used. Yes there are cars out there that are so rare and special, but often they have a series of flaws that make them not feasible to enjoy on the road. Maybe they just constantly are breaking. Anyways we need to keep these things alive and and on the road or track in some form. So that we can keep the passion alive.
It's your car man- do what makes you happy- the car looks great!
Tom, if you ever give up racing you can be a story teller. Don't know if that would bring in much money but you are good at it. Stay safe.
I dearly loved that 69' Talledaega (Torino with an attitude) when it came out. FIX IT ! Please. It's absolutely beautiful. Tom, I'm an old fat Ford man, If you had to put a price on this, what would you sell it for? It's not ruined at all. It's enhanced.
There are 2 talladega sitting in mclean illinois. And they are still driven.
That car isnt ruined, you just improved it! So beautiful!
I owned a 69 GT plus 70 Torino and never heard of this car until accidentally coming across your channel. Nice car there.
Your stories are great! I’m 51 and can relate to the tales of the old 70’s and 80’s cars of my youth. The first car I ever drag raced against at a track was a GLHS Shelby Omni. My 15.5 crushed his 15.8! Hahahaha!
I like it better with your upgrades looks good probably runs faster than when it was new