Checking Out Amtrak's New Venture Cafes
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Today we will check out Amtrak's brand new Venture cafe car onboard the Blue Water from Kalamazoo to Battle Creek. This was filmed on 9/11/24.
You had Danny and Kyle as your conductors on 364, and Keesha on 355. Fantastic crew!
@@RobertKrebill neat
Cafe Car should be in the middle of the train for easy access to all.
@@cats0182 apparently it was on a few trains recently.
Yep. Looks like Amtrak addressed the complaints from business class passengers having to walk all the way to the other end of the train.
2:00 Hey thats the menu shot music from Miles in Transit lol
@@derekonxbox yes it is!
Lmao nice
So, let me get this straight: There is no window in the service area on the back wall of the cafe car, but they cut a hole for the window anyway?
These cars are an anomaly in serialized production. Much cheaper to do it this way and also more future proof (if they ever want to change the layout of these train cars in the future). To not cut in windows would actually just cost more time and effort instead.
@@MrAronymous this is the right answer
If you look at Superliners & the old Amfleet cars you’ll see the same blanked windows. Easier to produce one shell & window configuration vs multiples. Old Pullman heritage diners were purpose built as diners, different times.
@@dgrenier4908oh i miss the Heritage diners. Last decent chow i can remember. The superliners aren’t bad, but not the same.
@@jaysmith1408 I miss the real China, early days of Amtrak they carried over the China service. Today only the long distance trains have diner service but it’s definitely not what it used to be. In the 1990s. I recall riding the CZ from Chicago to Denver in the 80s, actual dinner service vs today’s prepackaged & heat & eat fare.
Sad to see this lackluster design.
Thankfully the ventures are only in use on the state supported routes, where the state and Amtrak are probably trying to save as much as they can. There is a chance that the venture coaches/cafe used for 100% Amtrak routes will be better.
@@Cptn.Viridian hopefully
2:00 unexpected miles in transit
Is the seating area you showed IN the cafe car? Is there no designated seating area with tables as there is in the old cafe care in the superliners??
@@ggreg2258 that is correct
my question is from battle creek- kalamazoo, does it go a steady 110 or slow down in some areas
It goes 110 pretty much right out of Kalamazoo but it needs to slow down as it approaches Battle Creek and merges with CN trackage
Thanks for sharing. I don't like the sterile interiors and rock hard narrow searts in these venture cars. Brightline has done a much bettrer job outfitting its venture cars.
What a perfect 6 car all Siemens train
@@Silvercat2343 yep!
I see they just stuffed an Amfleet car into VIA’s LRC’s. Finally expecting Amtrak to jump to Canadian standards….noope, doesn’t look like it.
Where do you order the food???
@@bradlybradshaw5972 there is a counter in the narrow hallway, I didn't want to film the cafe car staff so I wasn't able to get a great shot.
A very lackluster design, really looks like it had to cost as little as possible to produce. No design elements whatsoever, tables as plain as can be, no nice little table lamps or something to break up the scene, no nice materials like wood used either. The condiment box on the row of bins looks really cheap too, and that cardboard bin is just straight up trashy. I wouldn't wanna spend a single minute more in there than I had to. This isn't how you design a dining area.
Yeah, hopefully the cardboard bin is just temporary
Not an inspiring place for a break.
Nowhere as classy as a European or Canadian train.
Sad for the millions of bucks spent on these.
Yes - the crew needs space to work from but folks want to be able to sit and talk and eat.
Miller Michael Williams Susan White Larry
What?
Menu Shot 2:01 !
2:00 you deserve packing peanuts for including that; well done
Thanks
This bland and sterile cafe car is a big disappointment and the floor looks rough and unfinished. There is nothing here that would invite me to linger and socialize with other passengers. It looks more like a regular coach than a cafe and It is sooo UGLY
@@samtrak1204 yeah, I hope the Airos are better
@@kzooaviation Me2👊🏾👴🏾✌🏾
6:40 did you get a talking to?? 😅
Yeah, she asked if I needed anything
I have a love/hate relationship with these Venture Cars. I love their roominess and big windows. I hate, hate, hate their seats, which are no more comfort than Metra's new seats. The Amfleet and Horizon seats are much more comfortable. And don't get me started on the so-called "Business Class" seating on the Ventures.
The business class is an absolute joke.
unimpressed. At least the Amfleet I had tables with seats to eat meal in. Surprised it took so long to "debug" those cars so they could be put in service. Fixed consists make it hard to swap out cars, so suspect the cafés remain at end of train till they have proven themselves at which point they may go in the shop to get moved to middle of train.
I agree, apparently now there are a few located in the middle of sets already
Ugly, feels like a hospital.
Nice! A few months back, I saw a venture cafe car sitting in the Amtrak Chicago Yard.
Cool, I saw one pulling into union a while ago but this was the first time they ran out into Kalamazoo
I remember the dining car on the Silver Meteor back in the late 1950s ... luxurious layout and fresh flowers at every table. Memory has stayed with me all these years.
@@WMGIII most dining cars are still like that, cafes, not so much
The 2 seats on one side an 1 on the other is very similar to the Korean KTX. I like it!
Cafe car is uninviting, even downright ugly. Video’s music is too loud and abrasive. Awful.
@@williammcneill5879 what was abrasive about the music?
love riding Amtrak - we need more local routes to make it a commuter train
Ever heard of regional rail? Somewhat comfortable, stopping frequently, simple. That's basically it.
Hey did you talk to miles first before using the menu shot song? Just giving you a hard time,good vid!
@@NotAJosh I got access to it by joining his Patreon.
If you're going to publish videos, using correct terms is essential. The correct terminology in today's society is "accessible", not "handicap ". Many people in that community find the latter extremely derogatory and offensive.
@@TrainMike2013 I'm sorry, I will do better next time.
Why do all the cars have doors? They only use one. wouldn't it be cheaper to only have doors on on car?
If one of the cars is on the end of a train they want to be able to lock that door
@@kzooaviation Why don't they use the doors? It makes stops so much longer.
@@Matthew-p2h they need a conductor at each door, they don't have enough conductors for that to be reasonable
@@kzooaviation Why? All the doors work on the trains I use in Connecticut and New York. No conductor is at the door.
New York and Connecticut stations have high-level platforms unlike Michigan stations. Conductors can open ALL doors at high-level platforms if the entire train fits.