We love reading your comments. Remember folks, music is DIFFERENT all around the World, and it’s no different in performing these type of dances too. The video was produced to help those in the UK, associated with this team and not in any way to suggest this is A Defacto method or style. Peace and love.
I play the lion tail and what you have said here is entirely true! Most commendable especially from a Westerner, you must have experienced a lot of Chinese culture in your youth! Well done ! Keep at it !
Very weird. All lion dance drumming music I know are very different. I am aware of the crane mountain (hok san) and the buddha mountain (fat san - the wong fei hong hometown) styles that are practiced in southern china, most of south east asia, hong kong, macau, and anywhere with chinese, but I have never heard of this style. Can anyone please enlighten which style is this?
Hey! The drum patterns are based around 3/5/9 star rhythems I'm told. As the comment to the video, this is VERY MUCH a hybrid style for Western ears and entertainment over a more Traditional style from China. Hope that helps. Thanks for commenting :)
Jose, thank you for making such a complete video. As you expressed and is clear by the comments, traditions vary tremendously. I have been trying to pinpoint *why* the three five seven star patterns are named those numbers and star. I was curious if you have insight. Why three five seven? Are there three steps or beats or patterns? Why stars? Thank you for any insight.
i dont think he knows lol. which he should before making a tutorial video. id recommend getting roots in kung fu and talkign to a kung fu school in your area if its possible. each school has their own versions and philosphy of what the meaning is. like even the two kung fu schools ive been to, (all from the same original grandmaster and same style though) have a bit of a different view. but, it refers to the lions movements not the time signature necessarily (although it could and theres stuff such as using the three fingers to mute, but generally everything would be 4/4 unless youre finding some really old school secret stuff where the time signature actually does change, bows and beats can change timing based on the lion though, in the traditonal style you watch the lion and lengthen or shorten based on the movement, modern international style with the jongs has to be an exact length so what is played is not changed in terms of timing, it needs to be like exactly a certain amount of time BUT ANYWAYS 3 star is walking, the lion walking around, the beat is in 4/4 but can also be in 3 or 6 based on how many times youre playing it, but generally yeah, its just the beat played for walking 5 star is either head up (happy lion, excited) or according to the jow ga video, a different type of walking. now 7 star is a very specific movement/ beat its hard to explain unless you know lion dance but its girl stance and stick the head in the air left right jump centre, lick the knees or something similar, jump back , set. ( with variation of course) now where the debate is between the two schools, one calls this move sam sing (5 star) and one call its chut sing (7 star) the older people say its 7 star from what ive seen so i lean towards that. stars have to do with the shape , like a constellation, of the movements/ foot patterns of the lion .
Hi, this is a great video. I am trying to follow through but would like to understand what people usually refer to when they say three stars, five star n seven star. Appreciated!
Hi, thks for the reply. I watched that video before but I can only see what he is doing for the three star roll but the 5 stars n seven stars are to fast to for me to figure out what he was doing.
You white boys did a good job, dudes. I watched quite some lion dance tutorial films on RUclips but most of them are in Cantonese, which is a dialect I, as Chinese from Taiwan whose mother tongue is southern Fujian dialect, cannot understand completely. My English listening comprehension, however, is good enough to understand very well what you are teaching. How sarcastical it is!
It does. Also In Indonedia I believe there are Regional differnces too - just like Japan. Lots of countries have their own version of a Lion Dance, with differnt Lions, Music and style of performances. There is no apparent right or wrong, jus cultural differences and variations :)
The Master of the style of Kung Fu I practice is well - thank you for asking. He is not however a teacher of Lion Dance, as he is more practiced in Unicorn Dance.
Natetural kicks where is your video? I want to see how awesome you are. Be happy that you write anonymously, your master would be ashamed if he would read that haha
honestly yeah, its completely divorced from the actual lion dance tbh and kung fu. Lion dance drumming is a language, and it is used to show what style you come from, who the lineage is etc and also to tell the lion what to do, there is a lot missing here and he cant really compare to regional differences in east asia, as if this is a uk style of drumming, because those regional differences come from the specific styles of kung fu, not some dude making his own beat and saying its a regional style. I think before making a tutorial he should be watching how to make the lion music, theres also a significance in the crashing of the cymbals, its to scare away evil but also to train your hands to be continously punching. in the end it all ties back to kung fu and lineage and that is what is missing most and its not to say it cant be moved forward but you need to know the basics and what youre doing before you move forward. like you should know what a hung gar, choy lee fut, malaysian style even if youre gonna mix em up you should be able to say exaclty what youre playing. there are plenty of techniques to be taught for lion drumming, like sending the qi through the drum, proper stance, and how it resembles punching, however he is just showing snare drumming techniques really, and looks like hes gonna hurt himself.
We love reading your comments. Remember folks, music is DIFFERENT all around the World, and it’s no different in performing these type of dances too. The video was produced to help those in the UK, associated with this team and not in any way to suggest this is A Defacto method or style. Peace and love.
I play the lion tail and what you have said here is entirely true! Most commendable especially from a Westerner, you must have experienced a lot of Chinese culture in your youth! Well done ! Keep at it !
Hope your week goes great thank goodness it’s all about the rain so I’ll have it done before the day of tomorrow morning
Thank you for the very good explain. I've grown up with this music but never really thought about the sequences of the drums.
Very weird. All lion dance drumming music I know are very different. I am aware of the crane mountain (hok san) and the buddha mountain (fat san - the wong fei hong hometown) styles that are practiced in southern china, most of south east asia, hong kong, macau, and anywhere with chinese, but I have never heard of this style. Can anyone please enlighten which style is this?
lol…you are being very gracious with your words. Yes, I’m asking myself the very same questions.
Great video appreciated very helpful
Good video lots of fine points to what you are saying. More musical than some teams can do. Good music theory.
What style is this? I’m more used to hearing sar ping drumming or jow ga drumming, so I’m not so familiar with this style.
Hey! The drum patterns are based around 3/5/9 star rhythems I'm told. As the comment to the video, this is VERY MUCH a hybrid style for Western ears and entertainment over a more Traditional style from China. Hope that helps. Thanks for commenting :)
Excuse me, what's the size of the drum?
Thank You For your wonderful tips and the great video!
Excelente Video!! Muchas gracias por compartir las técnicas!! Todo es perfecto!! ¿ tienen la partitura del tema final ?
Great demonstration, but it's snare drum technique, which it too detailed to play along with 4 pairs of fortississimo cymbals and a gong.
Totally badass, unique style
Jose, thank you for making such a complete video. As you expressed and is clear by the comments, traditions vary tremendously.
I have been trying to pinpoint *why* the three five seven star patterns are named those numbers and star. I was curious if you have insight. Why three five seven? Are there three steps or beats or patterns? Why stars?
Thank you for any insight.
i dont think he knows lol. which he should before making a tutorial video. id recommend getting roots in kung fu and talkign to a kung fu school in your area if its possible. each school has their own versions and philosphy of what the meaning is. like even the two kung fu schools ive been to, (all from the same original grandmaster and same style though) have a bit of a different view. but, it refers to the lions movements not the time signature necessarily (although it could and theres stuff such as using the three fingers to mute, but generally everything would be 4/4 unless youre finding some really old school secret stuff where the time signature actually does change, bows and beats can change timing based on the lion though, in the traditonal style you watch the lion and lengthen or shorten based on the movement, modern international style with the jongs has to be an exact length so what is played is not changed in terms of timing, it needs to be like exactly a certain amount of time
BUT ANYWAYS 3 star is walking, the lion walking around, the beat is in 4/4 but can also be in 3 or 6 based on how many times youre playing it, but generally yeah, its just the beat played for walking
5 star is either head up (happy lion, excited) or according to the jow ga video, a different type of walking.
now 7 star is a very specific movement/ beat its hard to explain unless you know lion dance but its girl stance and stick the head in the air left right jump centre, lick the knees or something similar, jump back , set. ( with variation of course) now where the debate is between the two schools, one calls this move sam sing (5 star) and one call its chut sing (7 star) the older people say its 7 star from what ive seen so i lean towards that.
stars have to do with the shape , like a constellation, of the movements/ foot patterns of the lion .
This is the best drum video I have seen! Thanks for the tutorial. Appreciated as a lion dance fan and musician!
Hi, this is a great video. I am trying to follow through but would like to understand what people usually refer to when they say three stars, five star n seven star. Appreciated!
Hi Michael. This video may help explain 3, 5 and 7 star patterns: ruclips.net/video/aM4G2u21itE/видео.html
Hi, thks for the reply. I watched that video before but I can only see what he is doing for the three star roll but the 5 stars n seven stars are to fast to for me to figure out what he was doing.
Why you stop doing drum content 😢
You white boys did a good job, dudes. I watched quite some lion dance tutorial films on RUclips but most of them are in Cantonese, which is a dialect I, as Chinese from Taiwan whose mother tongue is southern Fujian dialect, cannot understand completely. My English listening comprehension, however, is good enough to understand very well what you are teaching. How sarcastical it is!
Just listened to a lion dance for a new company opening. It sounded bad, so I‘m here checking if it‘s supposed to sound like that.
Omg😮😊 i play Chinese Opera Drum too, it's nearly the Style.
Wow. your techniques and explanation are spot on! great job! was really helpful! these are actually drumming technique names too! cool!
I play lion dance in Singapore and the music is very different
i would say to keep your drumsticks straight like this “ll” not like this “/\” so your drumsticks are harder to touch together
Great video!
it is not
I play lion dance in indonesia and the music is very different
It does. Also In Indonedia I believe there are Regional differnces too - just like Japan. Lots of countries have their own version of a Lion Dance, with differnt Lions, Music and style of performances. There is no apparent right or wrong, jus cultural differences and variations :)
I do Vietnamese Lion Dance Drumming which is very fast
Yyt
In Thailand it's a bit faster with lots of gong and clapping sounds.
appreciate the video.. but you still have lots of practice and study to do...
One is never at their journeys end.
Very Testicular performance hahaha ... Congratulations...
yeet ty im from the asian lion dance team and they were telling me to look for your own
I know how to play lion dance drum by my self
How is your master
The Master of the style of Kung Fu I practice is well - thank you for asking. He is not however a teacher of Lion Dance, as he is more practiced in Unicorn Dance.
Lion dance Samarinda
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okay white man
The drumming was ok but the cymbal and gong player sounded bad
thanks, we enjoy reading the comments. We would have liked to have seen your videos, to see how you play, but you don’t have any!
This is horrible
Natetural kicks no you are horrible
at least I can actually lion dance and play the instruments correctly
Natetural kicks where is your video? I want to see how awesome you are. Be happy that you write anonymously, your master would be ashamed if he would read that haha
Natetural kicks I like how everyone that says it good doesn’t know anything about lion dancing lol it is horrible
This is so bad like dude why just why
honestly yeah, its completely divorced from the actual lion dance tbh and kung fu. Lion dance drumming is a language, and it is used to show what style you come from, who the lineage is etc and also to tell the lion what to do, there is a lot missing here and he cant really compare to regional differences in east asia, as if this is a uk style of drumming, because those regional differences come from the specific styles of kung fu, not some dude making his own beat and saying its a regional style. I think before making a tutorial he should be watching how to make the lion music, theres also a significance in the crashing of the cymbals, its to scare away evil but also to train your hands to be continously punching. in the end it all ties back to kung fu and lineage and that is what is missing most and its not to say it cant be moved forward but you need to know the basics and what youre doing before you move forward. like you should know what a hung gar, choy lee fut, malaysian style even if youre gonna mix em up you should be able to say exaclty what youre playing. there are plenty of techniques to be taught for lion drumming, like sending the qi through the drum, proper stance, and how it resembles punching, however he is just showing snare drumming techniques really, and looks like hes gonna hurt himself.