History and Origin of GI Joe's OKTOBER GUARD!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- This is the origin and the history of the Oktober Guard, the Warswaw Pact's answer to the USA's GI Joe A Real American Hero Team!
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Big Bear and Gung-Ho fighting and talking trash to each other was one of my favorite parts of the cartoon!!!
Horror Show*
JD'S RC'S haha yes Gung Ho arguing was fun!
I remember the episode of the cartoon where Gung-Ho kept calling Horrorshow a "dumb Russian bear" and be called "ugly" in return. They just kept going at it back and forth.
For my GI Joe collection I added Snowstorm to the Oktober Guard since he was born in Cuba.
Underrated part of gi joe
Theron Mitchell I agree, they’re a fun team
Thank you very much for this video- I was so happy to see it! Oktober Guard was something of a guilty pleasure in the world of GI Joe. Even in the now non-cannon appearances, they seemed to have good character arcs & a balance of serious & funny!
Andrew Grant They do have a good balance! They can throw down in a fight but are a fun team and their banter is funny 😄
They were my favorite team especially their appearances in the classic 80's show.
When Misha was on Roadblock's back, did he repeatedly tell him he was "Oncesss... a Man..."
Lol
Walter Lucero lol
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A great video, always looking for your videos to see what's new and therefore refreshing my memory
Lenny Alcina Thanks Lenny!
You're knowledge of gijoe is absolutely amazing!!! Love all your videos brother!!!!
This is Cobra Commander thing you for telling me about this enemy
They held off November for decades. Now that's something.
Wow, this was my weekend ebay mission. Glad tgis came out today and not Fri. Thanks.
I was wondering do other countries have a special group to fight cobra
A very Nice review !!! We have been waiting for this REVIEW for a very long Time !!!
Ada Pedneau Thanks Ada, I’m glad you enjoyed it and sorry it took a while lol
In Russia, Knowing is One Quarter of the Battle!
The Bronze Age of DC Comics lol that’s right!
Thank you so much, please keep it coming
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Great video but are you aware that the October Guard made an appearance in the original G1 Transformers cartoon.In the episode Prime Target a member of The Oktober Guard is flying an a top secret jet.
That would be Daina. Callsign October Guard 1. The “Comrade Colonel!” referred to near the end can be an inferred reference to Col. Brekhov; the guard can pass as Schrage.
A missed chance, a G. I. Joe cameo in that episode (preferably Col. Sharpe or Gen. Hawk, Scarlett, Breaker, Stalker & Snake-Eyes, and Adm. Keel-Haul, Slipstream & Torpedo.
Red salute October Guards and Action force/GI Joe Comrades 🍻🇷🇺 🇺🇸 🏴 🥂🤜🤛
I'm surprised with the amount of nuance that the Oktober guard was portrayed with. they actually made them real characters instead of just cheap stereotypes or one-dimensional bad guys. Especially considering the climate that they were released in.
So you're surprised when good writers write good stories?
If you look closely at the cover of G.I.Joe ARH #7, which isseen in the video; that isn't Shturmovik but clearly Col. Brekhov standing back to back with Stalker. Which made since as they were the two squad leaders in the story.
I got a 1997 three pack with Red Star, Big Bear & Volga. In addition to Volga's real name being given as Daina (as opposed to Diana); Big Bear's real name is given as Lt, Gorky,. I considered him one guy: Lt. "Big Bear" Gorky, and when the Daina/Diana? figure appeared with a different hair color I thought they were two different characters. Then it turns out Gorky and Big Bear are different people, but Daina and Volga are the same person? I am SOOOO confused!!!😣
Aaaaanyway, thanx for a very comprehensive, informative & interesting viid. YO IVAN!
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I also have that 3 pack. They used Red Star's mold for Col. Brekoff, Lady Jaye's mold for Lt.Daina (Volga), & Big Bear's mold for Lt. Gorky.
Paul Ley Harris : Yeah, molds got reused, recolored & renamed a lot. But in that pack, Big Bear was still Big Bear, his file name as Lt. Gorky; w/ commentary that he'd grown his beard to look less boyish or some such.. I didn't get an earlier Big Bear or latter Lt.Gorky figure; but apparently they didn't all synchronize. Maybe they hadn't planned on doing a separate mold for Gorky yet, and this was a case of consistency being discarded..
This was a great video by the way. I do have a question. I'm a a big fan of the eighties Sunbow cartoon GI Joe A Real American Hero. Considering that the Oktober Guard didn't have that many personal, who were the other two members? I recognize Colonial Brekov, Diana and Horror Show. 2nd question are there action figures for the Sunbow cartoon version of the Oktober Guard? 3rd question (I promise this is the last question) why didn't Horror Show and Gung Ho get along on the show? Thank you in advance.
The original Oktober Guard comprised:
Col. Brekhov- Commanding Officer
Daina- Sniper/Helicopter pilot*
Horror Show: Anti-Armor
Stormavik: Spetznaz Commando**
Schrage: Infantry
Dragonsky: Flamethrower (G. I. Joe Yearbook #2- Triple Play)
After Brekhov, Horror Show, Stormavik & Schrage were KIA in G. I. Joe Special Missions #26, Daina took command, with the ff new members who debuted in G. I. Joe #101 (The New Guard)
Lt. Gorky- Naval Infantry (the Russian version of the US Marines)
Sgt. Gorky- Spetznaz Special Purpose Trooper.
Later on, in G. I. Joe #146, the Joe Star Brigade met the Guard again, now with Red Star in command. The story was a 3 parter that anticipated the events of the 1998 movie Armageddon.
2. There was a 3 pack October Guard figure set released back in 1997, and several other versions released after that.
3. Horror Show & Gung-Ho only met in the animated series. It was the usual rivalry trope.
* you can add ‘eye candy’ as well in terms of looks; sure beats Lady J 😇
** Spetsnaz troopers in the 1980s were known for their striped blue & white shirts.
1) In the cartoons, the O.G. were represented by the team members of:
Col. Brekhov
Daina
Horror Show
Wong (Chinese Cowboy)
& either Schrage or Stormavik (don't recall which it was at the moment, without seeing an episode again...)
2) The figures were represented in comic 2pks a few years ago, BUT those were more comic based than cartoon, although you can pass them as either... Except for blonde & khaki wearing comic version Daina vs her brunette & pink parka wearing cartoon version. As far as specifically cartoon O.G. figures, not really, they were predominately comic representations... Except for Wong, who has had ZERO figures and ZERO comic representations.
3) Horror Show & Gung-Ho didn't get along in the cartoons, because they each represented the anti-Communist/anti-American attitudes of each team, in order to provide the personality clash and character dynamics for a more entertaining episode.
(At the time of these episodes, the Cold War was in effect, but nearing its end, so there was the U.S. vs Russia rivalry, as exhibited in the Olympics, specifically regarding a stunning upset of the Russian Ice Hockey Team, by the U.S.A., in a VERY close match. In the whole GI Joe vs Cobra dichotomy, Cobra was actually created as a substitute villain, to mask the international rivalry of the USA vs USSR... Later the OG were introduced as erstwhile allies/sometimes "enemies" to bridge that gap between nations by sometimes working together against a common enemy, which was Cobra...)
So, think of Gung-Ho & Horror Show as cartoon representations of the USA & USSR Hockey Teams... They didn't much LIKE each other, but there was a mutual respect, with a little trash talking on the ice, as they tried to get the better of each other, while handling their mission, lol.
Not counting the 3 pack/2 packs of the October Guard, the one member of the October Guard who got a figure in the original 1982-1994 Joe figure line up was Red Star, who’s a Captain. He appeared in G. I. Joe #146, where it was noted that he resembled Col. Brekhov.
I said “the only member” because, a second October Guardsman seen as a figure back in the 1992-1993 line was Big Bear, who’s an anti-armor expert like Horror Show.
If the Joes really faced the October Guard, one-on-one, the most likely lineup would be:
Col. Brekhov- either Gen. Joe Colton or General Hawk
Daina- either Scarlett*, or Shooter, or Wild Bill, as she’s cited and seen as the team’s Helicopter Pilot**
Stormavik- Stalker (I’d normally go with Snake-Eyes, but fans might insist on SE using only Ninja skills on him, hardly a fair fight.
Schrage- either Footloose/Grunt/Hit & Run
Horror Show- either Zap/Bazooka/Salvo/Heavy Duty
Dragonsky-Blowtorch
Sgt. Misha- Beach-Head
Lt. Gorky- Gung-Ho.
Wong- Wild Bill/Fastdraw***
* Scarlett’s the only Joe who’s shown resentment/hostility to the October Guard (G. I. Joe # 7)
** in G. I. Joe Special Missions #19, a Russian HIND-A attack chopper pilots that the Guard’s pilot, Daina was ‘a real looker’.
*** Wong may be a chopper pilot, perhaps not, but given his cowboy look, Fastdraw is noted for having an ‘old West gunfighter’ persona, as cited in his filecard.
My favorite cold war hero team. Only in the 80s. I was heart broken when most of them died, just like the SAW massacre. Loved it whenever they crossed paths with the Joes, always made the world feel much larger.
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Can you do one on Doc.
Yes on both the orginal Doc and his niece who now took her uncle's name
@@paulleyharris7851 thanks.
Omar Banks Doc is on my list!
Drednoks Please!!!
You never mentioned Wong from the Marvel cartoon and there was also an Arctic(?) trooper in the Devil's Due run of the comic named Ruslan.
Eric Hurd : Wong and Mishka wore similar hats, were both apparently physically smaller than the other O.G. guys, both had an Asiatic look, and both depicted fondness for American cowboy/Wild West lore. Sounds like basically the same guy wit a name change to me.
Oh my God the whole time I'm listening to you give you a report great report by the way I'm begging you could you please say the Battle Cry cuz I never knew how to pronounce it and what happens you didn't say it that would have been the most perfect report it's like,,
"New-par guinean."Or something like that LOL🤐⚟
MANIC M.o.c haha I’d probably say it wrong if I tried!
Supposedly Daina Janack was going to appeared in Gi Joe Ever Vigilante
Did you just glance over the Horror show robot chest thing?
Why was Horror Show called that?
It doesn't sound like an Eastern European/Russian name.
Remco Schedel-the SKULL : I always wondered and thought the same about his name. I'd theorized his real name would be Horacio or something like that, leading to Horrorshow being his nickname. But his first name is Stephan and his very Russian last name sounds nothing like it either. Nothing on any file card info I've seen gives any indications either.
I think its more of an implied warning that he can do terrible things to an opponent, given his strength, same with Roadblock’s given his size.
But Horror Show was used more as comedic relief more oft in the comics and cartoons.
Actually Horrishow is from Georgia (a separate Russian republic) which is north of Turkey 🇹🇷. Col. Brekoff & Red Star are Ukrainian, Lt. Daina is Czech, Schrage is East German. The only Russians are Iron Bear, Lt. Gorky, Big Bear, Dragonosky, Sargeant Misha, & Storomak on the team. My OKTOBER GUARD also included Snowstorm, who was Cuban.
My take was that it was a play on the “Nadsat” slang in “A Clockwork Orange.” The slang was heavily based on the Russian language and “Horrorshow” derives from the Russian word “Хорошо” (roughly pronounced “orosho”) meaning “good” or “well”.
Who is darklon? anyways love all of your reviews.
Darklon I believe is Destro's cousin and in the Iron Grenadiers
Malik Von Saint thank you! I’ll go over Darklon in a future video
@@paulleyharris7851 i remember him. I use to have the toy. I thought it was my coolest character. I asked because i want him to do one on him. I wonder what the arc was in comics.
@@JLSComics thank you. I always was fascinated by the toy. Was such a mystery character along with Croc Master. Two very cool figures
Why was there know opening?
Nice work, BUT you completely left out ANY mention of Wong, from the Sunbow cartoon, who had a significant role in the OG episodes. He was their "Chinese Cowboy" and a fun character. More should have been done with him, such as figures and comic appearances, but Hasbro/Marvel/GIJCC dropped the ball in a major way... So, I customized my own (modern era & vintage) GI Joe OG Wong figures...
Shane Hai : I always kind of saw Misha as anequivalent/stand-in for Wong. They wore similar hats, both were somewhat physically smaller than their male teammates, and both seemed to have an affection for American cowboy/Wild West folklore.
I think Wong was supposed to stand in for a Chinese Communist representative, given his name. The problem is that the Russians & Red Chinese have idelogically split off back in the late ‘60s.
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Yes, that was definitely Wong's role on, the OG Team, as the entire Guard was comprised of representatives from each of the Block Nations and Communist China, as they were ALL Communist countries. MOST people didn't know the difference, especially as kids, that they weren't necessarily close allies at that point, but Wong was a fun character with a fondness for the Old West Cowboys, which made him a good match with Wild Bill in those episodes.
Nonetheless, he deserved an action figure of his own.
Larry Hama once noted that the October wasn’t the USSR version of G. I. Joe, but its Warsaw Pact counterpart. The members whose nationality he confirmed were:
1. Daina- Czechoslovakia
2. Schrage: East Germany
The other members?
In G. I. Joe Yearbook #2, Col. Brekhov notes that Dragonsky fought at the Battle of Stalingrad during World War II.
Red Star hails from Odessa; Big Bear from Arkanghel.
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Well, good ol' Larry can say that if he wants to, since he basically wrote and created the team... BUT given THAT time period, those were ALL Eastern Blok Soviet controlled countries AND lead BY Soviet Communist Russians, ergo, Warsaw Pact Countries or NOT, the Oktober Guard WAS essentially THE RUSSIAN counterpart to GI Joe.
Once the Berlin Wall fell, it was another story perhaps, but even THEN it took time for The USSR to give those countries freedom from their control, as shown by a majority RUSSIAN team dynamic, which ALSO gave them their orders, thus USSR equivalent initially, THEN Warsaw Pact potentially.
I know you feel you're an expert on this, given Sage Larry's comments, but you CAN just let it go as is, because nobody probably really cares at this point.😅😅
Either way, the OG has always been one of my favorite sub-Team type groups, and I even drew SEVERAL of the team for an online continuation of FREE cards for the TCG several years ago.
There version of the g.i.joe's.
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Please do who is raptor next. He's a interested Birdman
Robert Long I have a video coming tomorrow. It’s not about Raptor but he’s definitely in the video!
@@JLSComics maybe one on road. Pig soon
Liked the concept of the October Guard, but they never were a real match for the G. I. Joe Team in terms of personnel or technology. Odds are The A-Team could’ve dealt with them just as easily.
Col. Brekhov and Daina, & Red Star are the best characters in the team. Especially Daina, who took over following the decimation of the original team in Special Missions #26 (The Passing of the Guard). Too bad they never released a figure of her sporting that khaki halter and shorts rig. 😇
Oddly, they never had a “Political Officer”, the little gnome who ensures they sing the phrases of the three morons of Communism: Marx/Lenin/Stalin.
Liked how the Joes played them and Cobra twice as the fools they are in G. I. Joe Yearbook #2 (Triple Play) & Special Missions #1 (That Sinking Feeling).
Honestly I have alot I take issue with. First of all you are really down playing their abilities. But most importantly the existence of a political officer was mostly a world war II era not something that was prevalent during the late era of the Soviet Union. More importantly these are Russian special forces the top brass, so naturally they would be pretty much guaranteed to be committed believers in the tenants of communism. I seriously doubt they would need somebody to tell them what they already know. And you're barely contained ideological rantings don't do any favors.
@@rzionrnrzfm5925 Actually political oficers existed throuhout all of Soivet history and were only disolved after collapse of the Union. Plus from what I read even Special Forces were obligated to have them. But to be fair the stereotype of narky pretentious bureaucrat that everyone hates wasn't always the case in the Soviet army, sometimes those oficers did bond with their subordinates and even participate in action with them.
When is WOKE going to remake Joe? We need more diversity and sensitivity in children's toys. An LBTQJ Joe would go a long way along with Marxist focus in shaping the future generations
I don't know what this incoherent screed quite means but you've clearly never read any argumen in your life from someone left of Mitch McConnell. Media should reflect the make up of the society it's created in, for some reason an all white, mostly male cast or protagonist is largely not regarded as political but having cast of more diverse characters is. It's worth reflecting on why that is.
If you have a problem with corporations putting diverse casts in media to appeal to the widest markets then your problem is with capitalism, not Marxists lol.
@@DmitriPolkovnik Marxism will set you free from the tyranny that is freedom
They may not touch GIJoe because the Woke & LGB-whatever groups are anti military and anti war.
@@DmitriPolkovnik yes, that example you gave is not political because the US military is mostly white and male. Political is when the media portrays every other character as a LGBTQP when in reality they are the 1% fringe.