‘The Chosen’ Responds to Pride Flag ‘Controversy’ | Guest: Rep. Jessica Baker | Ep 814
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- Today we're discussing a few controversial topics, starting with a Pride flag spotted on the set of "The Chosen," a popular TV series focusing on the life of Jesus. The flag was seen attached to camera equipment in a promotional clip and belongs to a crew member, which naturally drew a lot of negative feedback. We take a look at whether this is cause for concern and what's realistic to expect from "Christian" shows. Then we move over to Florida, where an Orlando-based convention for furries (people who enjoy dressing up as anthropomorphized creatures) announced it would ban children due to a Florida Senate bill that makes exposing children to sexual performances illegal. We discuss why this move reveals a lot about the "furry" community. Then we're joined by Florida Representative Jessica Baker, who sponsored a Florida bill that allows sexual battery against a child under 12 years old to be considered a capital offense, punishable by the death penalty. She explains why this bill is important to her and why it's essential that we punish child abuse justly.
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Timecodes:
(00:00) Intro
(01:06) The rainbow
(15:37) 'The Chosen' Pride controversy
(24:55) Furries convention
(32:50) Intro to Rep. Jessica Baker
(36:55) Florida death penalty bill
(41:59) Opposition
(47:10) Kennedy v. Louisiana
(54:40) Other bills
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Links:
Daily Wire: "‘The Chosen’ Defends Pride Flag Spotted On Set: ‘Let The Show Speak For Itself’" www.dailywire.com/news/the-ch...
Rolling Stone: "Furries Now Have Serious Beef With Ron DeSantis" www.rollingstone.com/culture/...
New York Post: "Florida passes bill allowing death penalty for child sexual abusers" nypost.com/2023/04/19/florida...
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‘The Chosen’ Responds to Pride Flag ‘Controversy’ | Guest: Rep. Jessica Baker | Ep 814
This worker KNOWS they are working on a Christian site. This is a middle finger to the Christian community and needs to be confronted.
I see a ton of sinners casting stones here. This show got me back into my Bible after religion was used to prop up my abusers & silence and shame me. In order to have followers in Christ you need to be able to LEAD people TO Christ...condemning them is not always the best way. At least that is what I am being led to through discernment by shedding my judgement of others...not my job & I don't think Christ/God is looking to replace his position. We will not be judged in the end for the sins of others, but for our own. Be careful & CareFull! Blessings.
He did say he would leave the 99 to save the ONE
@@2ndskinshannonhulllmt259 No one is judging the gay dude or judging him. They are calling out the sin as we are supposed to as believers. We are not to just say, oh. It’s okay. I love you still. We are to say, I love you, but I want to see you delivered from this sin; and put all your faith and trust in Jesus.
Ps- we are to judge righteously!
@@Meggerz207 I totally agree with you here.
S L. Exactly, spot on
Absolutely totally agree with you. It’s a slap in the face to all the contributors and crowdfunding.
I think the guy flying the gay flag is being extremely rude and “in your face.” He knows he’s filming a Christian series and to flaunt his sinful lifestyle in such a way is just very insensitive and disrespectful to say the least. Dallas and the others in charge should take a stand and kindly ask him to remove it.
Dallas has no problem with it. It was no accident it appeared in the video.
That was my thought but not only Dallas, many of the actors completely affirm the alphabet community.
Exactly. And even if The Chosen is not a "ministry" as Allie said, they are promoting Christianity and that should not be allowed at work. Plain and simple.
Satan has infiltrated the chosen it seems like.
If they ask this employee to remove the flag, the anti-discrimination laws state they must also go and ask all the other employees to remove anything Christian in nature that they are displaying as well.
I wish it was cut and dry....but because this is a business, there are laws they must abide by.
On a Christian set making a Christian movie it should not be there
on a Christian set, there are often people of other beliefs.
I mean, it's not really Christian as it intertwines Mormon doctrine int he series. It's like mixing good wine with bad wine. It renders it useless and of no benefit. You should not watch it.
A "Christian set" with a man in charge who thinks some Mormons are believers...this is a movie set, not a "Christian set"
@@72586jejones Amen, thank you 🙏
@@emmib1388 Would they try this if they were telling the story of prophet Mohammed? No right? Because Jesus is an easy target.
I disagree with you on this, Allie. They are doing a show about Jesus' life. It is the message of the Gospel. It is supposed to be representing the Bible. However, a pride flag symbolizes the godlessness we are fighting in the culture. TARGET, ring a bell?? No, they should not allow pride flags on their sets. If they stand for Godly values, then it is not okay to bring the symbol of depravity onto the set. Because then they are saying with this that it is okay to be like the culture around them. They should set better rules on the set, this much is clear. CANT AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.
I totally agree
I agree. That flag was there on purpose. Don't try to justify it.
I agree.
WHY WAS SATAN THREW OUT OF HEAVEN ??? (PRIDE ) !!!! THE 🌈 RAINBOW IS A COVENANT FROM GOD NEVER TO DYSTORY THE WORLD WITH A FLOOD .THE THIEF FROM THE TRUE GOD HIS RAINBOW. STOLEN FROM MAN AND PRIDE AND SINFUL SEXUAL BEHAVIOR IS AN ABOMINATION SATAN TRIES TO IMATATE GOD THE LIVING GOD MADE MALE AND FEMALE .AND HOMOSEXUAL IS AN ABOMINATION I DIDNT SAY IT GOD DID !!!!
What if a worker on the Chosen set walked in with a "penis" or a Virginia" hat? What's the difference? Would Dallas allow that? NO! Dallas better get his act together, he's losing it. We know what that counterfeit flag means, and it is an abomination to my Jesus/Yeshua... it is amazing how many people COMPROMISE and cave in to the radical left.
Yeah, my company, my rules. There's no place for that flag on the set.
Exactly! Dallas is weak... he should have set the RULES. There's no place for that flag/controversies/products/items on the set... PERIOD!
Should not be allowed to promote the sin of homosexuality on set EVER. Very disappointed.
it was just a matter of time.. theres so much compromise in the Chosen.
Nope, it absolutely discredits The Chosen. They don’t have to have people that agree, but can absolutely not allow someone to bring in a cult flag to their place of employment. It’s called standards. The fact they didn’t is what’s concerning. We shouldn’t compromise because it may be our favorite show.
I didn't even want to watch that show the chosen from the beginning, something had told me they weren't ligit they are in it for mammon?
Thank you. It's a compromise of integrity. Now I have to stop watching something I really enjoyed and it touched my heart. It is insidious... Give an inch to the lgbtq and they take MILES
You may say that this discredits the chosen but it is not nearly as bad (optics wise) as when the "loose" woman came to Jesus, wept on his feet, rubbed them with her hair and kissed them over and over again..
Imagine this scenario on social media today with one of your favorite pastors.. You would most certainly blow a fuse..
To your credit, the religious leaders also thought that, Jesus not putting that woman away quickly, discredited him because of who she was..
It turns out that they were wrong in Jesus's opinion.
So what mindset would you rather have? The mindset of the religious leaders who eventually killed Jesus because he didn't fit in.. or the mind of Christ..
I recommend you chose carefully.
This isn't about their sole decision though. The anti-discrimination laws which apply to them as a public employer state that if they do not allow a pride flag then they also cannot allow any other employees to display or speak of anything Christian in nature...thus by allowing the 3in flag they are ensuring the set can be a place where the message of Christ is not hindered by law.
@@rosalucatero964 I had the same gut feeling every time I tried to sit down and watch it. Then I had the same feeling when they used it in church during that ridiculous "He Gets Us" sermon series.
That employee has NO right to blatantly display the flag at work. We shouldn’t let this slip. This is not ok.
I agree with you, her stand on defending it because they are a business,well Target is buisness too,so is bud light....she lost the right to critique any of the alphabet soup.
So you are without sin and perfect and only deal with perfect people? Here I only thought Christ was perfect. The Bible Is timeless
@@byronscherer4986 Isaiah 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
@@byronscherer4986 Ezekiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
@@byronscherer4986 PAUL the Apostle was judging the Romans when he rebuked the same sin in Romans 1? God tells him to speak and you tell Paul to keep silent because you are AFRAID of the world and have no boldness.
You can’t have one foot in this world and one foot in the Kingdom. This is what you call lukewarm. This is disappointing. That’s all I’m going to say, everyone else has hit the head on the nail.
Amen
Wow.. Thank God for Jesus.
He most certainly was all in. He not only had both feet in the world but both hands, both eyes, ears, 32 teeth.. all of himself.. for our salvation.
Glory to God!!!!
Please go and study what it means to be IN the world and not OF it.
I pray you have illumination.
@Emet Dara Go read about Sodom and Gomorrah. Read about why Noah's Ark was even built and then figure out what repentance of sin means. Until then you should stop trying to lead people to the wrong place bc of ignorance and lack of education and understanding.
@@amielynn6775 I am not ignorant and I am quite well educated. Also, I have the understanding that God's Spirit within me gives from the scriptures.
That you asked me to go back and read the portions of the bible you mentioned proves that you DO NOT understand the gospel.
You actually don't even know it.
You need to learn the basics and become well informed. I would teach you if you were humble and teachable but I think I would be wasting my time.
I pray that you eventually come to the knowledge of God's truth.
@@emetdara2999 "For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not become partners with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says, “Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.” Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ."
Ephesians 5:5-17, 21 ESV
First of all, I’m not at all surprised by the pride flag in the Chosen, I’m sorry that Allie is excusing it. That’s disappointing.
So Target (a non-christian business) pushing pride/trans ideology = BAD. Chip and Joanna (christians who own a business) not making a public statement on the Target drama = DISAPPOINTING.
The Chosen (a business that markets itself as a ministry and proclaims to be committed to the account of Jesus' life and ministry) allowing an employee to display a pride flag while filming and then defending it = ........ UNDERSTANDABLE.
no. Allie you're awesome but this take is inconsistent and wrong.
You hit the nail on the head. These are my exact thoughts.
It's probably because she had him on her show at one time. If people would actually look into the chosen more, they would not be supporting it anymore
I hate to say it, but I sadly agree. Allie, it's understandable to have differing viewpoints on set but it's another to physically celebrate the differences like this. Would I say the show is Christian? ...No. However, this should further prove that point.
I guess I wasn’t listening/watching closely… I thought she said it was understandable that people with different beliefs work on the show, but she thought the flag was too much…shouldn’t have been displayed.
Absolutely agree
A rainbow pride flag is a smack in the face of Jesus. I’m don’t with The Chosen.
That flag does NOT portray or honour the AUTHENTIC Jesus! Period. There are many companies that will hire Christians but will not let them display their faith publically while at work. Hire a gay person no problem, and it may even be a good witness to them but that flag should not be on or at the work site!!
This is another straw on the camels back.
That flag has no place in a set of a Christian show.
Does the man who owns it have a place in our church? I’m our hearts? Our prayers?
Christian shows have no place on TV.
They would not do that to a Islamic scripture story.
It's not s Christian show they show that
What if we looked at his flag - all these flags - as prompts to pray for them and kill them with kindness? Fight the ideology, of course! Especially in the schools! But love & pray for these confused, broken, lost individuals?
The pride flag is a red flag.
red flag about what?
@@emmib1388 Would you care if it was a Swastika?
@@Romans6_23 I couldn't get through the first 2 episodes without shutting it off, but if that's true I agree that IS blasphemy!! I don't get how Allie doesn't see that.
@@emmib1388 red flag meaning a warning
@@karlvonboldt of coarse
It's one thing to work with people of differing viewpoints, and another thing entirely to allow someone on set to display and promote homosexuality when you are a supposedly Christian show. This is just one of many red flags that I see with this show.
Yes
Yes, there are many red flags with The Chosen. There have certainly been good things about the production, but the negative aspects, including this rainbow flag, have become too much. I decided to stop watching after series 3.
If they ask this employee to remove the flag, the anti-discrimination laws state they must also go and ask all the other employees to remove anything Christian in nature that they are displaying as well.
I wish it was cut and dry....but because this is a business, there are laws they must abide by.
@@BEABEREAN10 I think that if it's conflicting to the image the company is trying to portray, then it might be ok for the company to enforce.
@@SoulHydron but that's not what the law says... unfortunately, when it comes to matters like these the law is pretty black and white. If you limit it for one you have to limit it for all.
Let's say it's a Buddhist making a movie about Buddha.... legally speaking they too would not be able to stop a Christian from having a cross on their person or in their space unless they limit display of all religious symbols.
Ok so your holding chip and Joanne gains to the fire when they are just doing “business”. Didn’t you just say not everyone you work with or for is going to agree with your beliefs. But you seem to be going much softer on a Dallas Jenkins. This seems pretty hypocritical. There’s absolutely zero excuse for putting that flag in the scene. Zero.
That's right, no unfair scales. Judge everyone the same. If she called out C&J, she needs to call out this one as well.
100% inconsistent to not hold a “Christian show” to Christian standards
I 100% agree with your statement! You can't have two different sets of rules. Just because he was on her show it seems like she is being softer on him. My question would be if somebody on her staff didn't have the same beliefs as she did and tried to put a gay flag on the camera or on the set would she think that's okay? I don't think she would allow it.
Great point! Came here to comment that same idea.
The church needs to learn DISCERNMENT!
@@jasonchase4252 Don't you think they probably meant Christendom as a whole?
@@jasonchase4252 ALL CHURCHES serving the real Christ needs discernment.
@@jasonchase4252 The* Church. The Bride of Christ.
I had started watching The Chosen, but after looking into it and listening to Dallas and many of the people who contribute to it, their values I could no longer support it. Having the Gay flag in that picture was absolutely not a small thing and I believe it was in purpose. As Christians, how can we support the show and just over look all the hypocrisy. We can't be wishy-washy.
You have Godly wisdom - this display is so disappointing. A deliberate act that celebrates and promotes sin. And the response is basically “get over it” NOPE.
It was definitely on purpose. Smh
@@mrandmrsbbbb7839 Jesus loves everyone but never celebrated sin. The pride flag promotes and celebrates homosexuality. The Bible tells us clearly how God views sin. You don’t bring thieves to Christ by stealing. You don’t bring drug addicts to Christ by shooting up. You share the love of Christ. Sin kills, steals and destroys. There is no gain in displaying this symbol that honors no one.
@@lizpetruzzi7700 Amen. You said it perfectly!
I see a ton of sinners casting stones here. This show got me back into my Bible after religion was used to prop up my abusers & silence and shame me. In order to have followers in Christ you need to be able to LEAD people TO Christ...condemning them is not always the best way. At least that is what I am being led to through discernment by shedding my judgement of others...not my job & I don't think Christ/God is looking to replace his position. We will not be judged in the end for the sins of others, but for our own. Be careful & CareFull! Blessings.
He did say he would leave the 99 to save the ONE
Allie, the pride flag is not a small issue.
Yes, people can have different world views when working together, but this was not that. The person who displayed this was blatantly waving this on production while filming knew exactly what they were doing and the message that it sends. No Christian is upset that we can’t work with people with different world views. We do that on a daily basis at work. Christian are upset because the LGBT community keeps pushing their agenda everywhere and everyone is expected to accept it and just shrug their shoulders and say, “that’s just how it is.”
The Chosen staff should have spiritual discernment, and asked this person to remove this flag on set. Instead they defended it.
It doesn’t make sense. Especially with pride month approaching.
Exactly. So tired of the strawman argument "we have to work with people of various beliefs". Please. Do you truly think Christians don't do that every single day??? Like we don't know that??? This is NOT about "working with people of various beliefs". This is about a flag planted on the set of a show that has always claimed to be about honoring Jesus. This is about that background shot being deliberately released as is. This is about lack of discernment at best and pandering at worst.
@Jeri Lowe Howell Dont forget people have to also tolerate lies and propaganda from religious indoctrinated cowards. You hide behind a faith that isnt real. This is why people burn churches. You reap what you sow.
Margarita, I think Allie doesn’t want to rock the boat. Because this is a very serious issue.
I agree. They have their views and have mine. It's wrong and should respect my views. GOD HAVE MERCY ON IUR SOULS. SATAN IS INVOLVED IN ALL THIS. 🙏 🤲 🕍 🕌 ⛪️ 🛕 🙏 🤲 🕍 🕌 ⛪️ 🛕 🙏Maria
@@sadiebenson1888 Jesus said we would be persecuted for His name's sake and for righteousness sake. Christian's need to STOP getting their garments stained by the world. We are to be salt and light. We don't compromise so that we won't "rock the boat", Jesus message does just that. People don't like to be told REPENT for the kingdom of God is at hand. Yet, Jesus Himself said it, and told people they were SINNERS in need of God's mercy. You can't leave out the sinners part. People need to know WHY they need salvation. The church in this nation needs to stop compromising the word of God because they don't like persecution. It is time for the church to STOP DOING THAT. You will be persecuted just like our LORD was. However, Jesus has overcome the world. Deny yourself, pick up your cross, and FOLLOW HIM!
I think the chosen should be held accountable for flying the pride flag.
The Chosen was not flying the flag. It was 1 person working in the background of the show.
I think christians should be held accountable for all the atrocities they've committed while PRETENDING to be free of sin. Religion should be treated like terrorism.
Yes
But it was on their promo video….? Not just some guy…,
@@jackaretIt really wasn’t a promotional video, it was a behind the scenes shoot. The cameraman owns his own equipment. Dallas may not have even been aware of the flag attached to the guy’s camera before some fan made a big deal of it. It’s a faith based show (for profit) but cast and crew are hired for the job on their talent, not their personal beliefs. The flag has been removed, Dallas spoke his peace, and we need to move on because Satan is claiming a victory already.
I have agreed with you on many controversial topics but you're missing the mark on the pride flag on set. I'm thankful to see so many people here in the comments that agree. There's no excuse.
Agreed..
I'm actually very surprised and disappointed at her opinion.
@@CountyClaire Me too. And her automatic bias opinion on pit bulls. 😊
DeJayne. Allie doesnt want to rock the boat. She is wrong on this one for sure.
DeJayne, Amen!
I spoke on this. I don’t get why people don’t see the problems here.
It’s not about whether diverse employees can work on the set, but about having no workplace standards which prohibit this being “shoved in their faces.”
Also then allowing it to go out to the public in a promotional video.
Then NOT apologising or taking the video down, but rather doubling down.
No discernment at all from the show!
Not just lack of discernment, but capitulation.
Looks like people do- it's Allie who is fine with it.
@@sandyjuntunen4088 yeh, the people in this comment section are actually wise. They aren’t glossing over Allie’s blunders in this video.
@@theclawmd truth!
Pride comes before a fall. I’m going to observe pride month by noting that homosexuality and pride itself are sins.
Amen!
“Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.”
A lot of people misquote but it’s actually “before destruction” which is worse in my opinion, you can always get back up if you fall….
I had the same thought.
So far I've been tolerable to you people of "faith". No more. Now those around me will get an earful. So far non have agreed with the racist antigay cowards that post shit online but maybe because im physically big and imposing. Oh well. If your religious around me I will now make your life a living hell.
Actually the verse is Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
But I agree
Homosexuality is sin
Hiring an employee who is of the LGBTQ is one thing but by flying the rainbow flag, your company is then promoting the flag. Would the LGBTQs fly the Christian flag? NO. The Chosen has already discredited themselves durning the first season. Dallas isn't showing the world the "Authentic Jesus". He's showing us a different Jesus.
Yes
@@Tracy77751 I've never seen the Christian flag flown or hung by a LGBTQ member. Never. Where have you?
CE Exactly, and that’s why he wears the “Get used to different” . t shirt.
If you don't understand Anti-discrimination laws then you won't see why telling this person to take the flag down means they also have to tell all of their Christian employees to hide their crosses, Jesus fish, Bible verses and even that they cannot talk about religion on set during work hours.
@@BEABEREAN10 Thus the trap has been set
This is a no-brainer for a Christian! Allie, you are wrong here. I can't believe my ears, that you are defending this. Of course you can work with people you disagree with. But don't think for one second this flag wasn't planted, planned, and definitely noticed by those in charge on the chosen. I really hope tomorrow's show you say you realize how wrong you were, because there are many baby Christians that watch you and you are leading them to believe it's ok to white-wash this symbol of sin against God when it's used in a "Christian" setting.
You voted for Trump after arming saudi Arabia, Why are you pretending to give a fuck about kids ? You don't care about kids You Just pretend too
Great points, I absolutely agree! I am also disappointed in her having this stand on the situation, I would even say shocked! Others on the staff can have their own beliefs but it doesn't mean you should allow this blatant representation of gay pride!
And even if it could be argued that the flag was “just” on set - it was filmed as part of their behind the scenes series that made it part of the show. Decisions were made that got us to this point and it wasn’t only the person who brought that flag that made them.
That show is pushing universalism. Beside the point but Allie has been going a different path recently, not sure if I will continue to watch her. Anyway, you’re right.
@@Evelyn117jk what other signs have you seen of her changing? Genuinely curious, I only watch occasionally
What if it was a nazi flag, or a pedo flag? Would you still say the same thing? Christians taking weak libertarian stances like this is how culture got to where it is today.
Lion of Fire Ministries showed who the guy on set is that has all the pride stuff. He's a camera man, and to see him walking side by side with the Jesus character, filming him, while wearing a rainbow t-shirt, is just disgusting.
@@heidiandbretz9867 funny I think that was the same thing the Pharisees and religious leaders said about Jesus hanging out with sinners too.
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@@silver292 none of the sinners Jesus “hung out with” continued in their sin. Neither did they take pride in and show off their allegiance to sinfulness. Christ’s love leads people to repentance, not acceptance!
@@AshGeo there is no way you could know that is true. Jesus spent time with countless people over 3 years. No where is scripture does it say every person Jesus spent time with eventually got saved. But even if that was true, doesn’t that mean we Christians should follow his example and hang out with more non Christians so more of them get saved?
They were sending a strong message with the flag. It symbolizes an idea and lifestyle that is contrary to the will of God.
They aren't sending that message though.
@@misha49ish It seems like people who probably already don’t watch the show are just looking for justification to condemn it. Feels very pitchforky.
@@Teal_Seal coming from someone who doesn't watch it i don't need that as an excuse I protect my relationship with Jesus is why I don't watch it it's not real time or real life it will give you no power to withstand the wiles of the devil
@@bethjones4088 No one making the show claims it can protect you or that it replaces the Bible. No one. In fact, the writers say outright it’s not their intention. If you don’t want to watch it, then don’t. But please don’t put words in their mouth or put it down when you haven’t even seen it.
And it's colorfulness is fun and appealing to children...
2 years ago I was getting ready to watch the Chosen with my family and my spirit got convicted. I felt there was something behind the since that God is soon to reveal about this show. We either stand for God and His Word or we don't. Let's remember and read Rev.3:15-16
I had exactly the same conviction. Nothing I could lay my finger on, but something seemed "off"
Hi, Andre. The first conviction for me was the Catholic priest at the Roundtable. Something seemed extremely wrong with that because the Biblical doctrine and the Roman Catholic doctrine oppose one another. I admit I continued watching even though I was feeling convicted, because I thought the show was doing "good things." The next conviction was the Mormon connection and the comments from Dallas in regards to his Mormon friends believing in the same Jesus as he does with no evidence of them leaving Mormonism. Then, the third conviction was when I was praying, I sadly saw the actor, Jonathan Rhoummie in my mind, which I think may happen more than some may admit. I knew then I had to stop watching. The show is ecumenical and trying to please men of different beliefs. There has to be a separation not an alliance with false doctrines.
@@jozettacameron1522 Very well said Jozetta! Those are the main reasons I stopped watching The Chosen.
That's crazy, I had the same feeling a couple years ago when I first started watching the Chosen. After the first season I felt convicted about it, I didn't know why at the time but I stopped watching at that point. I will admit I went back a while later and watched the new seasons, but I am definitely not going back now.
Hey, I started to watch the first one and did the same thing! Just something didn’t feel right to me, so we stopped watching that one and never watched it again. I felt a little confused as time passed when so many other believers were enjoying them and advertising them. I am thankful now the Lord checked my spirit on the first one.
Allie, I don't agree with you on this one. You're compromising. You're letting a little fox into the vine. Let's flip the perspective on this- If I were a wedding photographer and I understood I was being hired by an Islamic family to capture their memories for the day, I would not put a Christian flag on my camera or wear some sort of Christian religious t-shirt as I worked. It would be tasteless and rude. Not because I don't believe in Jesus while I'm there, but because my opportunities to witness and represent Jesus in my behavior and kindess would not be seen because I'd be pushing my agenda in their face on a special day for them. It would be inappropriate and in poor taste. I would probably be fired on the spot and I wouldn't blame them. There's a time and a place. This gay or gay supporting photographer is crapping where they eat. You don't use your livelihood or company time to push personal and controversial agenda unless you own the business. This photographer is obviously aware of what most Christians stand for when it comes to alternative lifestyles. They knew putting a gay pride flag on their camera was going to cause controversy and take the focus off the story of Jesus. Christians need to make a stronger stand on what we believe. The second that flag was pulled out, Dallas Jenkins should have asked him/her to remove it or leave the set. It's in poor taste, it's distraction, and it detracts from the goal and calling of Dallas's vision for the show. We applaud Christian cake makers for not participating in gay weddings, but THIS action by the other side is OK on OUR turf? NOPE. This too public of a platform to display compromise. It's confusing to the world and I can't believe you're supporting this move.
Another thing that has troubled me for a while is the girl who plays Ramah. She also plays on NCIS Hawaii as a gay agent. She's in a same-sex relationship and openly kisses her girlfriend. This show plays up this relationship big time. I stopped watching NCIS Hawaii because of this. Every time I see her in the Chosen, I'm bothered by it. I know she's an actor and they need good actors, but that goes against Scripture. There is so much compromising these days and it saddens me to see it happening with the Chosen. I love that series.
Amen!!
@@solidtruthministries Amen
@@solidtruthministries my husband and I feel the exact same way. I was so disappointed to see she was back for the next season.
You wouldn't wear a cross necklace to photograph a Muslim wedding?
Jesus spoke to ignorant sinners and told them to sin no more. He didn't promote their sin and anyone who clung to their pride and wouldn't acknowledge their sins, like the Pharisees, He chastised. I can't imagine the Jesus of the Bible smiling at a flag that represents sexual perversity and rebellion. He'd probably have very strong words for the "Christians" who know better and are okay with this.
Prove it. Oh wait you cant. Enjoy your fan fiction lmfao
@@couchguy427 How about back up your comment with some actual scripture.
@@couchguy427 In John 8:11, Jesus commands an adulterous woman to “Go and sin no more.” Why would He say this if it were impossible to stop sinning?
@@sues3218 You ought to look it up for yourself but since you asked: they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?” This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear.
So when they continued asking Him, He [g]raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?”
She said, “No one, Lord.”
And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.” John 8:4-11
Just read the Bible, no movie or TV show will ever be totally true.
Amen
This whole series is shameful. I cannot believe Christians watch it.
@@hisservants8003 I sure don't, I saw a few minutes into the first episode and shut it off! I knew immediately it wasn't biblical.
I still think the show is great for someone who doesn't know anything about Jesus. Like my brother in Law. Raised Muslim in name but has no faith. I got him to watch the Chosen and now he's reading the Gospels. God can use anything for his glory.
The pride flag should not have been displayed on the set of the chosen. Why is this even a question? I forget. Wolves in sheep's clothing are everywhere these days.
Allie, you are a very intelligent, wise, gifted, bold woman of God. Your voice is welcomed and needed. Thank you for all you do! I also think you missed the mark on your comment about the pride flag being flown on set by an independent contract worker. I think if it were a Nazi flag or a baphomet you may have a different takeaway. The director can and should hire anyone but have guidelines of appropriateness (i.e. can't wear a bikini, cant wear/fly political or other propagandas, etc). It seems like the pride flag is now commonplace so it has lost it's offensiveness among the masses. (great strategy from the enemy)
True.
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If you don't understand Anti-discrimination laws then you won't see why telling this person to take the flag down means they also have to tell all of their Christian employees to hide their crosses, Jesus fish, Bible verses and even that they cannot talk about religion on set during work hours.
@@BEABEREAN10 Very good point. I have the same sentiment, which is why I elaborated on appropriateness in the workplace (i.e. no bikinis -to show that there obviously needs to be some sort of standard). I understand that this is a non-traditional workplace, but this is what you get when you don't set forth a good, neutral policy on what comes on set/workplace. Schools had to begin doing this as well to combat any and all things that are offensive, including religious ideology which also offensive (as the Bible states).
You don’t think this show is “ministry”?! I think it has “ministered” to millions actually. We looked up this camera man on IG and he is no one in a million years I’d want influencing my family in front of or behind a camera. Glad I can choose. What a disappointing response from you.
What is his Instagram? Would like to see so I can inform others.
@@tyeishaleisure readysteadydan…something like that but I’m not 100% on the spelling bc it was awhile ago. Just fyi there’s a lot of inappropriate and vulgar stuff on his ig.
@@tyeishaleisure Beware, there is nudity
This isn't about working with different people/backgrounds. Believers or non believers. The pride flag is a symbol of pride and sin and should not be on the set of the chosen. And dallas' reaction beyond stinks. And the actors' rabid attacks on us $upporter$ are extremely disappointing. I can never see them the same going forward. But that's just me.
I stopped supporting them with a small donation every month a few months ago. Another example of me being deceived. I pray for discernment.
if you hired a company to come build a deck at your home, and one of the workers has a pride sticker on his drill, would you tell him to remove it? This is no different - he is an independent contractor that you hired.
I worry that people are just so addicted to the show that they try very hard to defend it. I really have a hard time with the fact that someone has created a show that is supposed to depict Jesus, who is God, and 95% of it is fiction. How would we feel about someone making a show about us that everyone would watch to learn about our lives and 95% was made up? And this is God they are trying to depict. I just don't get it. It is more concerning to realize that the people who are working together on set to create this depiction are not all genuine believers.
100% agree. I was wary when it first came out and refused to watch. Later I kept hearing unbiblical scenes that were quite shocking because it changed doctrine. That's why it's important to be grounded in the Word - so we know what's real and what's not. Imagine all the poor people watching this and thinking that 95% is in the Bible.
💯!!! Our Christ deserves so much more than this ❤️✝️
Follow the money. It’s entertainment.
I have a genuine question for you.
The parables that Jesus told to his audiences; the ones he used to teach about the Kingdom of God instead of the existing material (Torah)..
Were they real stories or were they made up? Or was it a mix of some real and some made up stories?
Thank you.
@@emetdara2999 I see your point. I think we can use made up stories to help explain things or give examples, but my issue is with putting words in Jesus' mouth and trying to depict God and his life on Earth in the flesh through made up stories. It makes me feel like we do not think of Him in the sacred way that we should.
I, we had been small financial supporters of The Chosen. (Angel Studios) until a few months ago. We bought the t-shirts, hoodies, dvds. I listened to interviews from the actor that portrays Jesus and Dallas Jenkins, the main producer of the series. Who knew we are to NOT make images of Jesus Christ?! Imo, they're taking great license in portraying Jesus as almost flawed, "too human". I think it's done to make him "relatable" to people that don't know The Bible's teachings. I got convicted and stop financial support. This seals the deal for me. No PRIDE flags on the set. How does this happen?!
I have to disagree with you on this one. Yes, I work with people whose views are different than mine. But if I own a company it’s my job to make sure the reputation of my company is protected. Therefore if an employee is trying to display an image that goes against what my company and I believe then they would not be allowed to display it on company time or company property.
To me, the posting of the the gay flag on the set was done on purpose and the equivalent of giving the finger to Christians. Like the old saying years back that said, "we're here, we're queer, get used to it." What would your response be if that little pride flag appeared on the set of your program?
Its up to priests to give the finger to christians. Especially little boys.
Evidently she thinks she's a ministry? So she wouldn't- I don't get it.
A business with a vision will always have workers that don't align. A vegan restaurant may employ people who eat meat, but would that restaurant allow a worker to have an "I love beef" button on while at work?
I say no.
Especially with something as sensitive as portraying God and His life as man on Earth, this is flat out wrong and I personally find it very disturbing
I think there is a difference between hiring and working with people who dont agree with you vs. allowing the people who work for your christian organization to promote a worldview that is ANTI Christian. You can work with people who disagree while also being able to say, "In this workspace you may not promote things that are antithetical to our mission and beliefs".
However since the chosen seems to be so ambiguous and theologically loose, it makes sense that their work standards would be ambiguous and theologically loose.
Perfectly said!
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Great point
Yes. I have seen two different Podcasters who are usually theologically sound start with discussing hiring. Let's be crystal clear. This is NOT about this man being gay. Let's put that red herring to rest now. This is about the PROMOTION of a lifestyle which God has condemned on the set of a show that purports to be a Christian show and yes, employers have discretion in what employees may display at work. Would it be OK to display a political flag or the Battle flag of the Confederate army? I'm betting that would be loudly condemned. So why the special carve out for this one that clashes with the message the show claims to be about?
Something people seem to be unaware of is you cant exclude people because of their beliefs. Its still an industry and has to follow law.
The chosen is portraying Christ to the unbelieving world. In your face sin is totally unacceptable. Compromising with evil is what got us where we are today!!!!
Disagree with Allie on this…another reason NOT to watch THE CHOSEN
READ YOUR BIBLE, People!
I still think the show is great for someone who doesn't know anything about Jesus. Like my brother in Law. Raised Muslim in name but has no faith. I got him to watch the Chosen and now he's reading the Gospels. God can use anything for his glory.
A chicken fast food restaurant and a decorating business who claim to be Christians are not preaching the Words of the Bible. They may be witnessing what they believe but, as such are not ministries. To hold them to one standard and not an industry that claims to be promoting God’s very Words…would hypocrisy be too strong a word?
Boom! Right on the mark!
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I agree.
Its exactly the right word.
I agree that having people of different beliefs will happen in all industries. That being said, allowing the Pride Flag to be so predominant makes a different statement. To me, it says they are saying it is OK to be gay or that you are not a male or female but an abomination and it is not OK.
I have only watched one episode of The Chosen. It dealt with Jesus and Mary Magdalene. I have studied the Scripture fir 60 years. The episode was so unbiblical. Flying a gay pride flag is an abomination to those who profess Christianity.
Listen America, either one in or not. The flag is a big prevaricating NO. Better know what you are up against else you fall off the fence... Love from Africa.
We do need this reminder from brothers and sisters in Christ around the world, we cannot compromise!!!
God bless you Sister!
Great, I am surprised of how many “ highly educated” people on the media don’t know that the word is regardless the “I” is a gigantic error
Reading God's word should be enough for the believer. We don't need Hollywood to dramatize God's word.
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Honestly, I feel like the folks who say "the Chosen brings me to tears, it's brought me so much closer to God" are the ones probably not reading The Word very often 😅
I am surprised by how based this comment section is. 100% agree with yall. The chosen has not set out to just be a business just telling biblical stories, they are using it to reach people, therefore they should have standards and are allowed to tell people what is acceptable or not based on their policy. The fact they put this picture out there knowing that flag was there is a MAJOR RED flag. While I have many issues with this show, their goal is to represent Christ well, okay well maybe don't accept displays of sin on your show/set.
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I don’t think the show should tolerate this flag on set. After all, we have all of these worldly organizations forcing their employees/athletes to make public apologies and adhere to DEI trainings whenever they behave out of accordance with company values. Whenever an inch is given, a yard is taken instead. We really need to stand up for our values and beliefs. You cannot serve two masters.
to say he doesn’t have control over his set and employees is delusional - what if they attached satanic symbols? And they totally knew the pride flag was visible in the photo THEY released. No accident. Deeply disappointing.
Of course the Pride Flag is a Satanic symbol.
@@mkshffr4936 absolutely - I agree.
I'm actually surprised that isn't being talked about. Most of those playing roles of Yeshua's early followers acted/ directed on highly satanic films
So, boycott Chick-fil-A, who has never promoted pride month or flown a rainbow 🌈 flag or changed thier profile colors to rainbow as a virtue signal and who's ownership has publicly declared that marriage is between a man and a woman, but The Chosen getting caught with a legit pride flag is OK?? No, I see that as backwards...
They give money to pride organizations and to abortion ones 🫠 It’s not the same.
And here I thought PRIDE was a Deadly Sin. The one that befell Satan and the one that befell Adam and Eve. Interesting....considering that this life as a Christian is all about God teaching us humility, but now we're celebrating the Pride that sends people Hell. I thought this whole life ordeal was about Eternity no?
I always said, “if it's SO popular it's not stamped by God!”
Christianity is NOT popular! 😭
Reaching a billion people and still there’s no revival in America???
True!
YES! Why can't people see this?
There's revival going on but it has absolutely nothing to do with that made up show
Thiiiiiisss!!! 🙌🏾
Hypothetically if there was a flag that represented beastiality, adultery or any other sexual perversion would we give them a pass because “they are going to work with people of all different backgrounds…”
Or any particular political position or the Battle Flag of the Confederacy....All would be quickly addressed, you can believe. Yet here there is a special carve out.
There is a flag representing molestation and pedos. Its the christian flag.
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Or a Nazi flag???
So true! Would Dallas have the same reaction if it was a NAZI flag?
I think a lot of people are being deceived and you’re one of them.
Allie, would you let your co worker proudly exhibit a pride flag in the space they work in on your set?
I literally addressed this exact thing in this episode- did you not watch it?! I said no.
@@AllieBethStuckey Thank you for your take. This comment section sounds very Westboro Baptist to me. A bunch of pitchfork-carrying, love-lacking resounding gongs 😞💔
@@AllieBethStuckey you’re getting rolled in the comments section and rightfully so. You’ve lost a lot of respect over this undiscerning video. Unexpected and disappointing.
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9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
1 Corinthians 6
@@Teal_SealOh please🤦♀️
So it's horrible what Chick-fil-A did but it's ok what happened on the set of "the chosen"? 🤷🤔🤦😒
It's so sad that so many Christians are so obsessed with that show they can't see all the sin, filth, and blasphemy. Dallas admitted his "version" (the show) is better than scripture. What will it take for the church to open their eyes?
It’s like a boyfriend with aaaaaaaall the red flags that friends are trying to warn you about, but you’re so infatuated and emotionally manipulated that you can’t see them. Sad reality. Please keep them in your prayers.
I agree Saved By Grace. I admit I have been a Chosen fan all three seasons. I do attend church and Bible studies and read the Word daily and pray always. I don’t need the show. It was more entertainment and I actually used it more for my grandchildren to get a basic grasp of Jesus.
Up UNTIL after season three. BECAUSE I was so into it I studied more behind the scenes about the actors and Dallas, etc. So, Before this flag incident I already decided to STOP watching it. THIS PRIDE promotion should stop EVERY follower in their tracks.
nothing but red flags from the beginning with the Chosen.
When did he say his version was better? Just honestly asking.
Thankfully they are awake. You are referring to those of the church (translated to "body" in Greek ) of tares.
Allie Beth, the fact that they showed the pride flag should be a major red flag. It’s like the frog in the slowly boiling water, making it “comfortable” and normalized.
but who actually showed it ? And a red flag about what? you do realize that was a worker on the set
@@emmib1388 a red flag that sexual deviance apart from God's Word is represented there. I don't have flags where I work, that has nothing to do with work.
Right! People would be up in arms if someone brought a Swastika Flag on set.
Video should have been pulled
Exactly! The fact that an LGBT person feels comfortable flying that flag on set of a “Christian” movie is a huge red flag that this show is not Christian. It’s not of God and pushes a false Jesus.
Dallas as the employer has an absolute say in what his crew (those who depend on him for a paycheck) portrays on set and he is shown in the picture so he is aware of the flag's presence. With that being said, this behavior suggests acceptance and is in direct controversy of Jesus' stance on sin, including homosexuality.
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I pray that believers will also start calling homosexuality the Biblical term of sodomy in reference to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities because of the gravity of it (Genesis 19). They were destroyed as an example for anyone following after it. Jude 1:7 says, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." Sodomy is clearly an abomination, although it is not the only sin that will lead souls to hellfire and keeping them from entering into the Kingdom of God. Romans 1:18-32 and 1st Corinthians 6:9-11 are very powerful indeed. We are definitely living in the last days, meaning the AUTHENTIC Jesus is returning QUICKLY to judge the world for its sins!!!!!!!! Lord Jesus, please strengthen us to live holy as You are holy and help us to let our lights shine bright and to share the truth of the Gospel in these last days without compromise with no fear of men but in obedience to Your will in the fear and admonition of the Lord God that we will hear according to Matthew 25:21, "Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy Lord." I ask this and pray this in Jesus name. Amen.
I respectfully disagree with your comments regarding The Chosen. There is a difference between working with people who have different backgrounds and allowing a symbol of something sinful that promotes and celebrates that sin on set. Displayed on company owned equipment. What if that person was a satanist? Should they be allowed to display satanic symbols as The Chosen is being filmed? Hypocrisy at best. Dishonoring to God for sure. It also bothers me that we as Christians are being asked to overlook a literal red flag. Both the display and response are deeply disappointing. Also, they absolutely knew that flag was visible when they released the photo - no accident.
Exactly my thoughts! We have to be strong in our stance on what we believe and who we represent. The pride flag on set is an insult, is a flirt with sin and their lgbtq+ audience.
AntiChrist symbolism should not be allowed on set. Hello????
The pride flag 🌈 cannot be defended. The flag makes a statement and stands for something. You can have diversity without flying the 🌈 flag. What if they wanted to fly the BLM flag or a swastika flag. ALL would be making a statement.
Amen
My feelings exactly!
100% disagree with you on going soft of Dallas Jenkins. Disappointing when you slam a secular store (Target) for doing what their doing, but not a Christian show portraying the life of Jesus! Pretty sad
Yeah because it’s not the same thing at all. A dude flying a pride flag behind the scenes (which I already said I would never allow) is not at all the same as a store selling tucking bathing suits.
Huh? I have thoroughly talked about both The Chosen and He Gets Us. Silly
@Allie Beth Stuckey First off, I want to say that I love your podcast and love what your doing. I have been listening to you for a long time and pray for your show. I want you to know that I am not attacking you and realize at the end of the day, we have differences of opinion on this. I preach God's word every Sunday, and stand on the truth that this movement is an abomination, and always has been. It's no better or worse than the target scandal, except one is looked at like a ministry and one isn't. With all that said, he should be held to a higher standard. I don't think it's cause for boycott, unless it's depicted in the movie itself, which I agree with you on. The fact that you don't see it as bad as Target, is because you have been desensitized a bit. Anyway, still love your show and what your doing!
@@AllieBethStuckey You mean a "dude" that puts the camera in front of every actor and a promotional clip that went through everyone. Is not the same, I disagree miss. You obviously never had to live in a Totalitarian culture. Until is too late. You are doing good, but still have a lot to learn. I get it, perhaps we should be cynical and think that you're just waiting so you have more material to get "shocked" when it's "relevant" enough. All about content no?
This issue is absolutely the deal breaker just on the fact that they somehow think it is ok to have that flag flown and shown on a promo for a Christian show. Any employer can set standards of what is permitted in the workspace. And what that flag represents is not God or His love but pride, and lust. The Chosen has cbosen to stand with pride and inclusion and we have chosen to stand for God who is not inclusive of prideful sin. Wrong and should not try ti justify.
Well said The Manna
I can guarantee that if the tables were turned, a Christian flag or symbol would not be allowed on a Hollywood set.
Allie, your reasoning on the Pride flag on the set of Chosen (and used in a promotional video nonetheless) is inconsistent with your reasoning on your last few shows regarding Target, Chip and Joanna Gaines, Chick-fil-A, etc. I'm glad to see other people see it as well. God has given you such an amazing platform and ability, so I really hope you acknowledge this mistake.
No, it’s not. Actively partnering with and profiting from a company promoting the mutilation of children’s bodies is not the same as employing people behind the scenes who are gay or who have a pride flag - not that I think this is a *good* choice for a show about Jesus, but it’s not the same. As I said, I think having a pride flag on set is strange and something I would never allow. Plus, all I said about Chip & Jo is that they should say something and Christians should reach out to them. You’re welcome to do the same thing with Dallas Jenkins.
@@AllieBethStuckey It is the same, it is not about the Gay flag, is about EVERYTHING to do with this show. Do your due research, you're supposed to be a journalist. Ideas matter MORE than merchandise and the SAME ideas are what lead to the merchandise. To be honest, you shouldn't even talk about this show if you haven't watched it yet, much less if you haven't researched the criticism right here on youtube for the past 3 years. If there's anything to learn from Jordan Peterson is that ideas have people so the idea that is NOT the same is false. You just don't understand Totalitarianism, Total depravity? Ask Doug Wilson what that means. Totalitarianism, watch Jordan Peterson's old Bible lectures on Genesis, even if he is wrong about the Gospel, he gets Totalitarianism.. If you have watched it and are NOT upset at it, even from season 1 and 2 I don't know what to tell you. Notice the pattern, for the past 24 hours you have been defending yourself. What is the common denominator here sister? I suggest you set about 3 to 4 hours and research the criticism , then go to the source and confirm it. I stopped watching The Chosen because My Holy Spirit Lord asked me to and I was a new Christian when I did, I even started reading through The Bible because of it, like Dallas claims. But it's bad and God is almighty so he uses it, that doesn't mean it's not bad.
@@AllieBethStuckey thanks for your reply. My comment may have been unclear. I don't personally think there is a problem with the production company of "The Chosen" employing non-Believers (including those who are ensnared by homosexuality); however, as employers, the production company can dictate what kind of symbols are on their set and certainly what is included on their promotional video. It's a mistake to give them a pass on that.
@@AllieBethStuckey Speak what the bible say with BOLDNESS. No biblical Apostle like Paul, Peter, Silas, John the Baptist etc. would give it a pass to have their biblical story told with that flag in the background. Apostle Paul was a RADICAL STRICT guy. He would not play that nonsense.
Every company has rules. So yes they can hire people from different backgrounds, but they are allowed to say, "While you are on the job you are not allowed to promote certain things." Every company does that.
Exactly. If it's a ministry (and I would argue that The Chosen is a ministry since it purports to preach/teach Christ and His Gospel), then we cannot be unequally yoked: we must only work with Christians. If it's a business, we are free to hire whomever, but just like any employer, there are on-the-job rules by which all employees must abide. In this case, why would Jenkins be okay with working with so many unbelievers, even those who openly promote sexual deviancy?
We have to be cautious Christian set it should not be there
You can be LGBT and Christian 👨❤️👨
Nope
@@dansaber4427 That’s like saying you can eat pork and be Muslim 😂
i think that's the kicker for me in not liking the chosen. "we will work with anyone who can help portray the authentic Jesus..." uh... if not everyone you're working with will openly claim Christ is God, then that's not the authentic Jesus. that's progressive speak for "the kind of Jesus we *want* people to like" in saying authentic like how he does. :/
Allie, please do not defend the flag on the set. I can not wear certain clothing at my job and I have to adhere to their rules. Dallas Jenkins could have certainly said no way to the pride flag. He needs to explain this. I will not watch the series if in fact they allowed this.💔
Dallas Jenkins is very wishy washy on many issues. I’ve listened to many of his interviews and will not watch the Chosen series.
She brushed it off like it was nothing which is disappointing. SMH
Jenkins is really good at "explaining away" every legitimate issue with The Chosen.
That is what I said. He is allowed to have certain rules on set. It is his set after all.
They literally said on episode 5, season 1 that Jesus transgressed against his mother. They are blaspheming God.
Just had to share this dream that my husband had. God has been revealing a lot of things to him in dreams lately. And in his dream he saw PRIDEMONTH written together like that on a whiteboard, then the last two letters of PRIDE and the first three letters of MONTH dropped down and the word it's spelled was DEMON. God is constantly revealing things to us in our daily life. We just have to stop and pay attention. I just can't understand this view that Allie has, I am sadly disappointed. As Christians we need to stand against things like this and not support any companies that have anything to do with gay pride.
That was an awesome dream, and warning, for all of us. I wish there was a way to share this.
Wow! that's a revelation!
@@dianam4708 Copy and paste it. You don't have to copy the person's name that posted it, but just say that it was a post that you saw and you thought was a good warning. ;)
So we should boycott secular Target, but it’s okay for the pride flag, THAT REPRESENTS EVERYTHING TARGET IS PUSHING, to be hanging on equipment while filming a “Christian show” that depicts Christ. 😂 okay Allie. So inconsistent on that one. It’s one thing to hire people of different belief systems, but it’s another thing to let them hang symbols and flags around the work environment that is in direct moral opposition to the views of the company. Would a Muslim allow this if they were filming a show?! No. Christians HAVE TO STOP AND DRAW THE LINE!!!
I’m so happy to see all the numerous based comments pointing out the blatant inconsistency!
The pride flag on the set of the chosen is unacceptable. It should not be allowed. No biblically based company/ministry would stand for that blasphemy on their set. This is yet another reason to avoid the chosen. Just because it's normal to work with non-christians to promote Christianity doesn't mean they should be allowed to profane the things of God. Allie, would you allow a pride flag to fly on your set??
She just said she would not
@@OlgaSmirnova1 I never heard her say that but either way i would never defend the Chosen/Dallas Jenkins bc they are in error of their portrayal of Jesus and the Bible.
It’s a slap in the face to the God of heaven! It’s absolutely a stumbling block to new believers and a blatant compromise by the director!
I think you are wrong on this Allie. It is one thing for the Chosen to work with persons of all faiths and beliefs or lifestyles and quite another to allow them to promote those openly on the business property .. would it be OK to display a swastika for instances? No, the flag is promoting their belief, which should be unacceptable and is frankly a red flag for me
I'm reallt shocked & disappointed at your response to the pride flag on the set. Of course as Christians we live & work with people who don't agree with us on our biblical worldview but to allow them to display something so totally in defiance of Gods will is not acceptable.
We need to take the rainbow back! It belongs to God! Why do we allow His beautiful creation to be warped?
Disappointing to hear you defend a pride flag on the chosen, an activist was on the set doing what they do; destroy and you can make rules and be very cautious who you hire.
I have only one question. Would the response be the same if the flag was a pentagram?
Exactly! Or a Swastika!
So true!
As some one who has enjoyed watching the chosen show I’ve made the decision to stop once I heard Jonathan Roumie saying he practices necromancy!
He went to Lonnie’s grave to ask permission to act as him in “Jesus revolution”!
That is wild! No one should watch that show knowing that!
This is just one of many reasons!
Wow. Thanks for sharing. Sick stuff.
I have not watched The Chosen but i have seen that interview he did where he spoke about going to Lonnie Frisbee's grave and he said that he asked Lonnie for "a sign" that he should portray the role of Lonnie in the Jesus Revolution movie. Then i saw another clip of an interview he did where he admitted he is a Knights Templar! He proudly displays his skull rings and his rosary that has skulls on it. Before the Chosen i had never heard of Jonathan Roumie, but knowing what i know about him now, i will not watch any movie or television show that he is in.
That is disturbing
Yes it matters …. If this is true they have lost me🕊🙏🏻🕊
I've never watched it, but if they have them they lost me as well.
On episode 5, season 1 they said Jesus sinned against Mary. That’s when they lost me.
@@Romans6_23 Whaaa?? I don’t remember that!
@@amyk87 Its at the very beginning, they fade out really quickly so you don’t notice. I had to watch it again to spot it after someone else showed me. I was shocked too😨
@@Romans6_23 must watch again
Missed that !!!!🕊
I call complete BS with The Chosen and that they have allowed a symbol of God's promise to be displayed in the manner representing homosexuality. It's a slap in the face! I am pissed!
Im confused. You “call BS” on this story being true?
Also, “Im pissed!”, “pissed” at who?
Maybe clean up your language, too.
Except it’s just a flag , it represents nothing to Christian’s just like the marriage law represents nothing to god
*CORRECTION*
Allie responded to my comment that she is not friends with Dallas. Disappointing she didn’t address any of the other more important issues in my comment, however, just so everyone knows..she is not friends with Dallas….😒
Nope! This was the absolute WRONG response from you, Allie! Going after Chip & Joanna in your previous episode, which was totally warranted, and then turning around and capitulating because Dallas is your friend?! Really?! Call out the evil consistently. Why was this person allowed, by Dallas, to promote this wicked agenda on the set of The Chosen? A show that is supposed to portray the ‘authentic’ Jesus? That’s wrong, Allie. Be consistent. Badly done on this one. Badly done.
Just say what's on your mind, Jami. Don't worry about how to phrase it in a constructive way.
@@stephen1137 *Quote:* _"Just say what's on your mind, Jami."_
I understood what he said, and I agree. I don't support "The Chosen" either. The Bible is pretty clear when it says not to create an image of anyone in heaven. Do we need a dictionary for every word we find in the Bible till we can redefine sin until it is no longer sin.
That, and the fact that Mary was referred to as Lilith, which is a name not found in the Bible. According to Jewish fairy tales, Lilith was the first wife of adam, and Eve allegedly the second, but the truth, Lilith never existed, not according to the Bible. True Christians accept that Eve was the first wife of Adam.
@Allie Beth Stuckey Maybe this is the problem then that you haven't watched it. If you had it, it would allow you to better comment on it and see how they portray Jesus incorrectly.
Blasphemy at the highest level. So what's next?? Dressing Noah son's in rubies and makeup 😠
Yes, this very much matters.
😳Really Allie? You encourage us to boycott Target for their pride apparel but tell us we shouldn’t be so quick to judge this TV show just because they sport a pride flag? I’m sorry, you are poorly mistaken on this one. This is unacceptable. If they have a camera man who is obviously trying to make a stand on someone else’s set and is going against what the show itself stands for, then this producer you so fondly speak of needs to stand up for Christ and find himself a new camera man, period! I had a strange feeling ever since The Chosen gained so much popularity. You need to rethink your position on this subject and what exactly you stand for. You can’t cherry pick the Bible.. but what do I know. I’m only Catholic. We don’t read our Bibles… 🤣🙄
Spot on, Amen
Si true 😢😢😢Lord Jesus have Mercy on us 🙏 🤲 🕍 🕌 ⛪️ 🛕 🙏 🤲 🕍 Maria
I now realise that Dallas Jenkins is probably not the convicted christian he claims to be. He is most definetly not bold for the Lord and His truth. I saw Dallas's explanation of the pride flag thing and all I got from that was the idea that he is a bit too defensive and offended by people questioning it. He acted just a bit too angry about being asked about it.
I agree. Actually wasn't the pride flag that turned me off the most. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt. But it was Dallas's response that really left a bad taste in my mouth.
The flag is a SHOUT OUT; a mockery of The Chosen. It’s a spit in the eye; an act of defiance. The flag “Outs” someone’s ideology on the set.
You think that Dallas was unaware of the flag? They meant to put that out. This is the only conclusion you can draw from this.
It outs the Chosen.
That's what I thought. That employee was being deliberately provocative.
@@dejayne8246 the chosen are intentional allowing it; Wink to pride.
Respectfully disagree. Early in filming The Chosen, Dallas spoke that this is a form of ministry. That aside, many places of business have their employees sign a type agreement complying to their bylaws or mission statement, since they represent that business. When we bend to this stuff, we're compromising our values and who we are in Christ. This attitude is largely why we are where we are today.
Amen
This flag everywhere is proselytization. I thought that wasn’t allowed.
I disagree with you on this Allie. The Bible is very clear about not mixing the holy with the unholy. By doing so the Christian is compromising on what should not be compromised. Ez 44: 23 "Moreover, they shall teach My people the difference between the holy and the profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean". We are called upon to be strong in our faith and true to His word. The rainbow is not unclean but the way it is being used and combined with one of the 7 deadly sins, pride, in which there is celebration of what is unclean in the eyes of God needs to be avoided. Non Christians have worked with Christians for hundreds of years and learned to separate their beliefs from that of the Christian employer and should not be an issue today. IMO.
I guess you should get rid of all your non christian family, friends and co-workers then.
Very well said.
What’s consistent with the chosen? They consistently put themselves in controversy which I find very suspect. It’s the only Christian production that voluntarily puts itself in unnecessary controversy. And now I heard Dallas doesn’t even consider it a Christian workplace. I suggest believers stay wary of the chosen show. Deception is subtle like a snake in the grass
I know someone else who was also faced with a lot of controversy, so much so that it got him crucified. Controversy itself is not reason enough to discredit someone or something. I would have a problem with The Chosen if they, as a company, promoted pride month. This instance, however, was not intentional and did not represent the values of the company.
@@melodysparks I don’t know how it could be unintentional. It was part of a promotional video which they had edited and they chose to leave it in. I don’t believe it was a coincidence that it was right at the start of “pride” month either.
They did this intentionally. It was not just that the flag showed up they published photos with it in it. Then they doubled down and said LGBT is fine. They did it the first day of the LGBT pride month this was intentional
It was the dismissive attitude of Dallas, toward biblically-based Christians, and the attacks of some of the actors toward Christian concerns that upset the audience. It was the rationalizing, and the smugness toward the Christian audience over their concerns.
....seems you rationalized too.
I'm over all of it.
Very disappointed with this take. Didn’t think you were the type to be tricked this way. Smh
I've never even seen an episode of The Chosen but I've had a pause/question mark in my spirit about it from the very beginning but couldn't pin point why exactly. This just confirms my first reaction. Sure people will have different opinions within the workplace but allowing the "pride flag" to be waved, flown ect on THIS set is absolutely wrong and ungodly. Do not be unequally yoked. In my mind, regarding this particular show, it's no different than having the flag on the outside or inside of your church.
I still think the show is great for someone who doesn't know anything about Jesus. Like my brother in Law. Raised Muslim in name but has no faith. I got him to watch the Chosen and now he's reading the Gospels. God can use anything for his glory.
@@avaglynn1 that's great to hear and it's true that God can use anything for His good purpose. Although, that doesn't make a bad thing good.
I know all about the Chosen. There's a brother on youtube who did like a 6 hour exposure. I watched Chosen from the start, was taken by it, but by season 2 I couldn't stand the blasphemy. Dallas is obsessed with fame and found a way with christian media to get it. jenkins jesus is woke and false, yet people see his face when reading the Bible, dream of him, see his face when praying...very dangerous grounds!
Dallas should ask ppl not to display the pride flag because as a faith based show, it reflects on Jesus.
Allie, as a Catholic, we celebrate the Sacred Heart Of Jesus during the month of June! It’s morbidly ironic that “pride” has stolen the attention and hearts of the masses during this month. This literally pierces His Sacred Heart! Jesus, have mercy on us and save our souls! 😢
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They may be willing to work with anyone of any background, but the fact they are working with others who bring something like a pride flag to this set knowing it would be offensive says a lot about the character of the people you are working with. Why would you show up to a work site and display something that would be offensive towards the ones who hired you in the first place.
I think I'm done supporting "The Chosen" if their principles are this compromising.
Totally disappointed in your take on The Chosen. You seem to want to stay neutral on it, but why? This isn't an isolated incident, and it's not innocent. The creators of the show continually and happily align themselves with people who have no business being involved in portraying Jesus in any capacity. Dallas Jenkins might give a good interview and know the right things to say, but even just a casual glance at the way he treats everyday people who disagree with him will leave you wondering if he knows Christ at all. For goodness sake, the man thought it was okay to put a marketing campaign in place that depicted devil horns painted on The Chosen movie posters, and acted like they had really been defaced. Then was incredulous that anyone would find issue with his outright lie. He gaslights anyone who disagrees with him. What else does he or the people involved in the show have to do before people see who they really are? I just don't get it. There are a lot of issues that Christians can agree to disagree on, but to me, this is not one of them. Christians should look at The Chosen, Dallas Jenkins, and everyone involved with them and say "NO THANKS." It'll even be easier than not shopping at Target.
Dallas Jenkins the creator is her friend that’s why. She criticizes anything and everything related to the LGBTQ community everywhere else, but she’s dropping the ball here because she’s friends with Dallas Jenkins.
YES!!!!!! Spot on!!!!!!