Is Tyrion Lannister a DEI Character? - Game of Thrones -
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024
- In the wake of Dragon Age Veilguard, I have been thinking on the question of DEI (Diversity Equity and Inclusion). Can it be done correctly? The answer is yes, but the problem is that I think it’s like the old quote. If you go for Freedom and Equality, but put Equality first, you will get neither. If you put Inclusion above Character, you will get neither. Character must come first and must be the priority.
Let’s take the most generous view of DEI. There’s a lot of baggage around the term, but let’s take the best definition and look at what could be argued the best example of this. Now of course I don’t really see anyone from the DEI crowd talking about this but that’s how it goes sometimes.
Let’s say that the goal of inclusion is to introduce a marginalized trait and make others appreciate their unique difficulties. Again, bear with me, let’s say this is the goal. The best example is Tyrion Lannister.
I couldn't find the original thread I mentioned in the video, but found this interesting.
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You can have diversity characters but Do Not make them mary-sue,They must have balance bewteen their faults and qualities.
Yes very much so. Taking a diverse character and making them utterly perfect doesn't help.
No.
Hey thanks for stopping by! I'd be interested to hear what you thought after watching the video.
Tysha was NOT a whore.
You are correct! I went back and reread some plot points and forgot that. Tywin wanted Tyrion to think she was a whore and framed it as such.
Peter Dinklage!
Short man (short)
Indeed!
DEI is good, objectively. If you don't think so, it's entirely possible you have too much weird personal identity investment in whatever it is you're looking at. Sword & sorcery fiction has been stuck in a horrible rut for a long time, just flailing in the shadow of Tolkien. "Guy who was always destined to win finally defeats the swarthy & untrustworthy races of the East & South." Put a fat guy with ADHD in it. Put a disabled bisexual in it. And for god's sake hurry up! We're bored to tears of the same old horsesh|t, and so is GRRM.
As an aside, it's not exactly a surprise to hear this sentiment coming from the ASOIAF fandom, which (in the words of A-S-X) is doing the equivalent of staring at a parked car for 11 years making "vroom vroom" noises. Read some Ursula Le Guin & touch grass.
I agree it's good. The main point I'm trying to make is that it should be well crafted and to not sacrifice the character itself.
I definitely think Sword and Sorcery follows a lot of the same tropes in terms of characters which is why Tyrion is such an interesting character because he breaks the mold.
For your second point I'm not sure who it's aimed at but I definitely agree to reading Le Guin!
DEI is mostly neutral but can be a bit bad. Randomly race changing characters can result in some world building problems but it can be done in a way that preserves the story like with Corlys Velaryon. A fat man is certainly not outrunning the orcs in Moria, though, so it doesn't make much sense to put him in LOTR.
One of the key, most biggest mistakes I see writers make when trying to make their story more inclusive is that they forget to make it good.
Yeah there's a sacred rule to writing which is if it's good, you can get away with just about anything.
The issue is that the writers themselves aren't good writers and lack intelligence because they were hired for ticking boxes rather than for skill. Meritocracy > Tribalism.
@@cattraknoff as soon as you people see a black dude with a job you're very quick to make clear that it's definitely not because he's skilled
perhaps your entire point is that only those like yourself can possibly be talented and skilled, and anyone else is clearly there not on merit but on some top secret agenda instead, intended to replace the good ones who are more like you
maybe some introspection on this thinking would prove healthy for you
@@millimeter02 I didn't even mention black writers lol. Most Hollywood writers these days are feminist white women along with gay white men.
I've got no issues with black guys that get a job when they earn it. Affirmative action existing does call that into doubt however anywhere it is used.
You're projecting your own racism on to me. As someone who lives in a 99 percent white area I've met more white idiots, incompetents, and psychopaths than any other. People are individuals. Enough of your tribalism.