Spinomania was so intense that whenever girls see Spinosaurus, they freak out. Like, Spinosaurus doesn't need to do anything, as long as it shows itself to the public...
1910's: Spinosaurus was a big, weird carnivorous dinosaur with a sail on its back. 2001: Spinosaurus was a chiropractor. 2005: Spinosaurus was 16-18 meters long. 2014: Spinosaurus was a midget. 2015: Spinosaurus was possibly quadrupedal. 2017: Spinosaurus was not quadrupedal. 2020: Spinosaurus had a newt-like tail. 2021: Spinosaurus possibly hunted like a heron. 2022: Spinosaurus could dive deep. Late 2022: Spinosaurus couldn't dive deep. 2024: Spinosaurus could swim on land and walk in water. 2027: Spinosaurus had wings, and was therefore able to fly. 2029: Spinosaurus's wings were not for flying, they were just a display feature. 2030: Spinosaurus COULD fly, but not because of its wings. 2031: Spinosaurus could only fly vertically. 2039: Spinosaurus could shoot laser beams. From its cloaca. 2056: Spinosaurus could sing and write in a perfect English. 2083: Spinosaurus sent a spaceship into orbit that fell back on Earth with a message. Scientists are trying to decipher it. 2144: Scientists finally decrypted the message. Spinosaurus are not extinct and they are coming to take Earth back. 2300: This is not a war any more than a war between men and ants. This is an extermination.
Here is a more accurate one: 1935:Allosaurus with sail 1985:Midget 2001:T.rex killing monster that is 18 meters and 21 tons 2009:Monsters fucking resurrected 2012:16 meters long, pretty unique 2014:Quadreped lol 2017:Not a quadreped 2018:not aquatic 2020:tadpole tail and semi aquatic 2022:hunted like a heron
Spinosaurus is a lovecraftian being that we humans falsely perceive as a dinosaur. It's true form cannot be defined or described. From a t Rex with a sail to a giant whale to to a crocodile dimetrodon hybrid. It's insanity to truly uncover this beast!
Couldn't stop laughing at the wrestling bits, you mad man. I also noticed all those changes over the years, how it's possibly the most changed dinosaur since the early days of paleontology to the point that when JP3 came out, I'd found an old kids book about it (it was pathetically thin) with it on all fours, then Warpath and it's two-legged version, THEN JP3s in the same day. Wild how things changed in our life time. Also, the various paleontologists need to be locked in a room to fight it out, last one standing gets the win cause unless we find a way to clone a spino, it's never getting settled.
Spinosaurus is the "jack of all trades, master of none" in the paleontology world. Watching scientists, and paleo-enthusiasts, fight each other over what its skeletal morphology, and its ecology, was like has become a spectacle. When it comes to JP/JW, the animal went from being the king of the theropods in JP3 to being stuck on an island that no one cares about in a TV show. That's... pathetic. I think nowadays that it should have appeared in Dominion. Heck, it should've joined Rexy in fighting the Giga at the end of the film. I think Spinosaurus needs a lot of love, both in paleontology (I know that's going to be hard, but keep hope alive for more fossils so we can gain more facts about it) and in paleo-media. That's something coming from a guy that grew up hating on the animal thanks to JP3. 🤣
I'm waiting on the study to try and convince me it doesn't have a sail. Also, I love watching those videos going over the evolution of the Spino. Most of those for other dinos are fairly gradual with minimal changes, but the Spino changes so much so quickly. I also love how often they have to update the videos with a new form.
FUN BIT - it could have been a hump! Modern day animals with similar (but less impressive) large vertebrae include Rhinoceros and American Bison. In these animals, the vertebrae support a large group of muscles in the neck and shoulders for swinging their big heavy heads around, and so look like shoulder humps with the skin on. They're not proportionally as big as the Spinos, of course, but the boy could have been rotund like a goddamn hippo. I don't know if the spines have indication of muscle attachment, but it's something that -could- be! Love this enigma of a theropod.
The real problem when it comes to the paleontology of big carnivores, is that they imagine them in cage matches against other big carnivores, when in reality they probably only ate smaller vertebrates and avoided other big carnivores.
This exactly! I'm sick of people thinking that all large carnivores did was pick fights with one another. Just look at modern day animals and it becomes quite clear that most species tend to avoid unnecessary fights because the risk often is greater than the reward.
They did not likely have to contend with territory... but probably with their own kind. Same as modern day predators. They compete with each other, not against others. Besides that, many dinos lived in completely different eras. Often the time between us and the last dinos was far shorter than the time between when 2 predator dino species lived.
mostly carcasses as well...idk about avoiding others,the fossils show combat wounds in various theropods..sometimes from other theropods ..one report in particular mentions cannibalism in t rex..and hypothesized that they did fight over carcasses ....
@@LG22475 but its not unheard of entirety in the fossil record...plenty of theropod fossils show various injuries by other theropods and its not far fetched to say they did fight...
My biggest problem with modern Spinosaurus is the odd-shaped spine that looks broken. How many "Spinosaur spines" have they discovered that are like this exactly? o-O
Spinosaurus is indeed controversial from what it might look like to what type of diet it had in my opinion I wouldn't be surprise if the appearance of it in paleontology changes again within the next century.
As per the JP3 Spineo as a kid I felt like it was a Frankenstein. The promo material had green eyes like it had night vision and it seemed WAY too strong and smart. Kinda like instead of splicing other reptiles DNA to finish the code they just used already fished Rex and Raptor DNA to make everything faster in the lab. This could easily explain why the Spineo was so protective of its territory and seemingly wanted revenge.
There was a deleted scene in JP3. The 2 guys with guns, killed a baby Spino. So the mother chases them the entire movie for revenge. I have no idea why they removed such a vital part of the story.
The thing I love about paleontology is that everything that doesn't have an obvious use (or has an obvious use that's being refuted) the feature in question is dismissed as a display structure. Its like how in archaeology, anything that looks weird is labeled as an object of ritual purposes. Basically, its just a way of saying "I have no idea what it is" without sounding dumb.
In one of your old videos, you talked about the Game Boy Advance tie-in game Island Attack. I had that game as a kid, and also beat it several times. The Spino's motivation for chasing you is still left unresolved like in the movie.
Nice vid that got me thinking. My two cents about factors we should keep in mind for dinosaurs as a clade: 1. the amount of time they had to diversify 2. how much closely related animals today differ in lifestyle and physiology 3. how incomplete the fossil record is (i.e. absence of transitional forms and how much weirder dinosaurs likely await to be found) 4. how much of dinosaur physiology / behaviour is still conjecture Having said that, I think we should remain open-minded about the POSSIBILITY of semi-aquatic, fully aquatic (of course we’d need evidence) and fully feathered dinosaurs. Speaking to the latter, and given the unlikelihood of such integument being preserved at all, there seems plenty of time and diversity for dinosaurs to have had developed soft parts completely novel to scientific observation. In any case, and IMO, the Spino controversy speaks to the fact we’re living through a palaeontological golden age.
@@rodrigopinto6676 it’s definitely possible. The only way Paul managed to make it preform so poorly was by decreasing the bone density to 0.83 (which is lower then other theropods) and increasing the musculature of the tail to the point it was no longer flexible. Besides it seems Nizar found a new specimen.
Love the spinosaurus so much. Such a fascinating animal in real life, and while less interesting in Jurassic Park, being a literal t.rex-hunting kaiju is still pretty damn cool.
Spinosaurus was my favorite dinosaur in Jurassic park 3 when I first saw it like it was the first dinosaur to take down a t-rex when I first saw it as a child i was shock and scared of this thing
Great video Klayton! The Spino has been a favorite since I was little, and it’s kinda sad to watch it constantly be redesigned. I wish they would just focus on getting all the information they can before making a judgement. I love both the JPIII and short-legged, M-sailed, S-necked, paddle-tailed versions, and they just go to show how unique the Spino really is. On a completely different note, Klayton, I’m writing a story: a retelling of Jurassic World from the point-of-view of the dinosaurs. Not everything is the same, however, and while it is based on JW, there are many creative liberties taken to incorporate lore from the films, novels, the show, and even many of the games, like Trespasser and JP:tG. Mysteries and plot twists await. It’s more of an anthology series than a single novel, each chapter is its own story. The first chapter is fully written and revised, and the second is well underway. The reason for my bringing this up is because you know Jurassic Park better than anyone I know, and I’d like for you to read it and give me feedback if it interests you, maybe even collaborate on future chapters, since I have plans for Dominion and beyond. If you want to read it, just let me know, I’m really excited to share it with you! I’ll continue my work on Jurassic World: /Terrible Lizards,/ and until then, take it easy.
That is all interesting, in fact I still love spinosaurus no matter how different it is either in real life or in form of media such as the Jurassic franchise and prehistoric planet.
I've always loved the spinosaurus, especially how it was portrayed in JP3. Even if it's not an accurate representation of the real dinosaur, it still looks amazing to this day. Which is the most underrated part of JP3, the effects are better than most of the JP/JW movies. I would like for paleontologists to definitely discover what the spinosaurus truly looked like in my lifetime.
Absolutely they even have a video JP3 making of the spino and even said to this day the spino animatronic of JP3 is the most biggest and most difficult and biggest project Jurassic part team has ever made for the franchise to this day not even the T rex was this difficult and heaviest It speaks volumes right there and seeing the actual big prop of the spino iam like daaamn no wonder LOOK AT THAT ACTULE THING!!!!!
If giant dinosaurs were so disadvantaged by their size, how were they so successful and around for so long. I never understand why people put that theory out to there
I seriously think all of the paleontologists are right on many of their points. They just can't get over the idea that someone has to be wrong instead of looking at the collective data and saying, "Hmm, maybe we're all correct and we should collaborate to fine tune these ideas." Nope. I'm right. You're wrong. My team is better than your team 😓
Paleo definitely has a lot of know-it-alls who care more about being Right than actually being curious on how an animal looked and behaved. You'll have both educated folk and complete shmucks in comments acting as if they've got actual footage to back up their claims, it's frustrating. I feel like if any dinosaur should be a good example to humble people and show how little we know, it should be Spinosaurus.
The spinosaurus has always been my favorite. It came more of a favorite of mine in adult years, because it's just frustrating, annoying and it's forever changing, that's why it makes it even more FASCINATING!
As some one who "ran in those circles" and even was bit pretentious of paleontology and depictions, you hit the nail on the head. I've always seen the paleontology field as comparable to a bunch of kids in a big sandbox arguing over what was dug up. Highly charged and emotional, taking great deal of fun out of the whole thing and taking the whole matter WAY too seriously. And the only remedy, which you good sir seem to have found, is rediscovering or keeping the childlike wonder and love of it and not caring too much about all over the top sciencey side. After all, most of this is for fun so why not focus on. You know, within reason.
Great video Klayton Fioriti and I pretty much agree that Spinosaurus is one of the most controversial dinosaurs in the franchise and great analyzing of the Spinosaurus in the franchise. Great work and as always, Take It Easy.
I think it is a crocodile that prefers to live on the coasts, but it has the ability of feet, muscles and hugeness that make it move away from the coast and move comfortably for a long distance without worrying
Its cool to see my favorite dinosaur (I chose it as my favourite just because I saw how cool it looked in Jurassic Park Builder) being discussed and talked about
This is like the Cold War between paleontologists. One side says Spino is like this, the other side says Spino is like that. Both sides trying to prove each other wrong and Spino is caught in the middle. Like the bone wars of our time.
Hey Klayton I REALLY MISS your background ambient music that used to play. It added a lot of iconic atmosphere to your videos that I’ve always loved. I would really like to see it come back!! 😔
It's an amalgamation of different fossils and sizes. At this point, it is better to have Spinosaurus similarly to other bipedal relatives like Baryonyx. Would answer a lot of questions.
Not in the slightest LMAO. The only fossils we dont have of spinosaurus that dont paint a clear picture of what the animal looked like would be its ribs and arms, thats it. All other fossils we have of it are attributed to Spinosaurus aegyptiacus, not anything else. Scientists just don't make mistakes like Brontosaurus excelsus (who is back btw) anymore. We have far more tech than we did 100, even just 20 years ago
@@IndominusRex-wc1ey That's wrong. Making Oxalaia, Sigilmassasaurus, Spinosaurus B and Spinosaurus Maracanus synonymous has been debated among paleontologists since the 2014 reconstruction. The margin of error is just too big to not notice. They used the neotype (a subadult from a different location) and scaled it to what they think would make an adult size with different fossils and sizes. Scientists will always keep making mistakes because something new will always make changes.
One of my favorite scenes in the entire franchise, is in JP3 when they turn around after reuniting with Alan and Eric and see the Spino just staring at them.
Love it!! I always found it hard to believe how those front claws could equate to quadropedalism...but maybe they could. I'm a skeptic at heart. Science seems to be more about defending theories than actual provable facts. Spino is a fascinating animal that I expect may prove everyone wrong when more fossil evidence is unearthed. Perhaps it was a scavenger that snatched dying fish out of the water while actively hunting pterosaurs...I can't help but recall my childhood when Apatosaurus/Brontosaurus could only support it's immense weight by being submerged in swamp water. 🤣🤣
I remember when it was unlocked in Warpath and it looked Drastically different from how it would be depicted in JP3. Even the Lost World figure was different!
Great video! Spinosaurus is such a cool creature. Whatever the future holds for it, I think it's cool that different ecological niches are being considered for this animal. And it seems to me like the one consistent feature, other than a couple outliers, is a semiaquatic or at least coastal lifestyle. Whether that be a crocodile-like lifestyle, or maybe something that wades and spears fish like a giant heron, it's cool that it's occupying some sort of special ecological niche that other giant carnivores clearly weren't (no matter which niche that ends up being). I think it's neat when we find animals that are clearly really specialized, even if we don't fully know what that means for it yet.
This constantly changing of Spinosaurus's reconstruction reminds me of one of our cats. He will literally cry and cry to go outside or come inside and then want back in or back out like 2 or less minutes later. He'll even stand right at the door while we wait for him to hurry up and decide what he wants to do.
Something I’ve always wondered about dinosaurs, which may help explain the contradictions of the Spino in particular; and that is if there are different breeds of each species that vary differently over their evolutionary lifespan?
Yep, just like there are indian/african elephants for example. Sexual dimorphism and how the animal changed as it went from baby to adult is also something to keep in mind.
Spinosaurus is among my top favorite dinosaurs, with T.rex still being my all-time number one. Its size is incredible, and the overall biology makes it so unique, and Jurassic Park really helped grab my imagination for it over the years. I hope we find more complete specimens to finally have a more thorough understanding to what this dinosaur is. As a dinosaur and paleontology fan, I will not go against current theories and potential evidence, but honestly, I actually do wish Spinosaurus can be portrayed like how it was in the early 2000's. I've come to like that look. I guess having such shot legs despite being such a large theropod still strikes odd to me.
The entire Spinosaurid family is an anomaly that is constantly changing. The legs and body length are the oddest considering they are so different compared to all their cousins. There's also the idea that there's multiple species
I wish in JP3 they hit the point more of the Spino being more of a hybrid (compared to the other dinosaurs) and get more in-depth on its history…feel like that could of driven a better story. Especially if the plane killed its mate, which would of driven it to hunt the group, and eventually yes fight to trex (in a previous video I said should of fought a pair of Ceratosaurus in the forest instead of the spino) 🤷♂️I love the movie don’t get me wrong but I think that would of been better
Well, back then the idea of Hybrids existing in JP didn’t occur until Jurassic World. By the time JP3 came out that was just how people thought Spinosaurus looked, it being a Hybrid creature was merely a retcon due to the fact by that point the newer discoveries and theories had come out that presented Spinosaurus as it is now.
I remember watching this channel a lot a few years back, glad to see you're still making quality content Spino is prob up there for me in terms of favorite, and i always liked the semi aqautic theory, and the idea that it was kinda both quadra and bipedal, idk, just felt the most right to me personally, im not a paleontologist though
In my opinion, the Spinosaurus is a controversial topic in the world of Jurassic Park, but personally, it's one of my favorites. The dispute surrounding its role in the franchise, especially its showdown with the T. rex, has sparked passionate debates among fans. While I understand the concerns of those who feel it challenges established tradition, I'm drawn to its unique design and the narrative possibilities it offers due to its semi-aquatic adaptation. I acknowledge that its limited screen time might have contributed to its lack of recognition, but its impact on popular culture and the scientific intrigue surrounding its potential lifestyle have led me to consider it one of my personal favorites within the thrilling world of Jurassic Park. Great video!
part of me thinks that the disagreements is all a stunt to confuse people with contradictory research for their gain and generating ad money, since spinosaurus is popular enough to milk people with
Nice video klayton , and while it s really unknown for now . I still have hope will see the spinosaurus return in the future of the “Jurassic saga” . Also I love the game Ark but I haven’t had time to play it .
I've learned about what happened to the bones of a Spinosaurus in another video. That sucked! Fossils should be protected and cared for. And I watched Paul Sereno on stage with a friend talk about dinosaurs!🦕🦖 People have been mentioning "Ark Survival" to me. That game looks like fun! Great video! That reminds me, I watched episodes of tv shows about Spinosaurus, read books with Spinosaurus in them, and learned fun facts about them.
Recently there was a new spinosaurus that was discovered in Europe it was quite big while paleontologist official name they just simply called it White Rock spinosaurid
I like to think it was a giant Bipedal sail back crocodile, just cause thats a cool idea. Also speaking of Spinosaurus Page One, a Beast Pirate in One Piece was clearly inspired by the Jurassic Park Spino
It's like a reverse platypus. Instead of a complete animal that can be fully studied, we have a limited skeleton that no one knows much about. Every new fossil comes with its own share of problems that will unlikely be resolved.
Well Spinosarurs is the one that still been talk about to this day but I Will Say that Pretty nice you been Playing Ark Survival Evolved it a really fun game to play when you have spare time and such
Spinosaurus is my favourite dino! I know it gets a lot of dislikes (because they rushed it in JP3 and the actors didn't show respect to T-Rex) but it is still so neet. In JP3, it was a breath of fresh air, and there's nothing wrong with Rexy, but there are other dinosaurs and people want to see them.
I feel like this also applies to Oxalaia, another Dino very similar in appearance to Spinosaurus. If they do have it make an appearance that is. I know the last the Primal Ops model looks surprisingly good despite the inaccuracies, and they could use that as its main look in the movies or tv shows. Yet another part of me understands that it would simply get a lot of confusion if they add two animals that look very similar and confuse the audience. Still, I feel like they could use a scene to where a spinosaur facing off against something like a giant crocodile, like Sarcosuchus or Deinosuchus. Or if they go the extra route, have it fight a Carcharodontosaur that has a little bit of actual fact
Big sail, flat tail, overall sleek… seems pretty aquatic to me. I bet they could wiggle their whole body like ribbons to swim. The sail could’ve been a stabilizer… I’m imagining the spino swimming not entirely horizontal but kinda at a angle.
Spinomania is runnin wild brother
Spinomania was so intense that whenever girls see Spinosaurus, they freak out. Like, Spinosaurus doesn't need to do anything, as long as it shows itself to the public...
Don't forget the Rowdy Roddy Raptor
Mach man Mosusaur
I’m totally making a SpinoMania shirt now! 😂
*SPINO 3 : 16 SAYS I JUST WHOPPED YOUR ASS!*
1910's: Spinosaurus was a big, weird carnivorous dinosaur with a sail on its back.
2001: Spinosaurus was a chiropractor.
2005: Spinosaurus was 16-18 meters long.
2014: Spinosaurus was a midget.
2015: Spinosaurus was possibly quadrupedal.
2017: Spinosaurus was not quadrupedal.
2020: Spinosaurus had a newt-like tail.
2021: Spinosaurus possibly hunted like a heron.
2022: Spinosaurus could dive deep.
Late 2022: Spinosaurus couldn't dive deep.
2024: Spinosaurus could swim on land and walk in water.
2027: Spinosaurus had wings, and was therefore able to fly.
2029: Spinosaurus's wings were not for flying, they were just a display feature.
2030: Spinosaurus COULD fly, but not because of its wings.
2031: Spinosaurus could only fly vertically.
2039: Spinosaurus could shoot laser beams. From its cloaca.
2056: Spinosaurus could sing and write in a perfect English.
2083: Spinosaurus sent a spaceship into orbit that fell back on Earth with a message. Scientists are trying to decipher it.
2144: Scientists finally decrypted the message. Spinosaurus are not extinct and they are coming to take Earth back.
2300: This is not a war any more than a war between men and ants. This is an extermination.
Here is a more accurate one:
1935:Allosaurus with sail
1985:Midget
2001:T.rex killing monster that is 18 meters and 21 tons
2009:Monsters fucking resurrected
2012:16 meters long, pretty unique
2014:Quadreped lol
2017:Not a quadreped
2018:not aquatic
2020:tadpole tail and semi aquatic
2022:hunted like a heron
@@jwdominionpyroraptor4775 2020 it was aquatic
ware ofe thee worlde referencee
Thank you for the spoilers 4 21 23
@Venatorable thank you for this comment you are a legend
All you NEED to know about the Spinosaurus:
-Was big
-Ate fish
-Had a sail
- Crocodile like head
And a tail fin
And bigass claws on hands!
It was probably a fire spiting flying dragon as well.
@@Edelweiss1102 you ruined it bro
Spinosaurus is a lovecraftian being that we humans falsely perceive as a dinosaur. It's true form cannot be defined or described. From a t Rex with a sail to a giant whale to to a crocodile dimetrodon hybrid. It's insanity to truly uncover this beast!
If he isn’t a boss in Bloodborne 2 i will be sad
It is an elusive creature indeed. It is so elusive that this thing can shapeshift.
No...not "we" Mr Indoctrinated Sheeple...YOU...you Sheeple believe this
@@NationChosenByGod Prove it? Do you have ANY ACTUAL FOOTAGE 🤔🤷🤦
@@davidsheckler4450 Face palm is for you for taking the words seriously.
Couldn't stop laughing at the wrestling bits, you mad man. I also noticed all those changes over the years, how it's possibly the most changed dinosaur since the early days of paleontology to the point that when JP3 came out, I'd found an old kids book about it (it was pathetically thin) with it on all fours, then Warpath and it's two-legged version, THEN JP3s in the same day. Wild how things changed in our life time. Also, the various paleontologists need to be locked in a room to fight it out, last one standing gets the win cause unless we find a way to clone a spino, it's never getting settled.
Helicoprion has more changes I think, seriously they could figure out where to put that jaw.
Spinosaurus is the "jack of all trades, master of none" in the paleontology world. Watching scientists, and paleo-enthusiasts, fight each other over what its skeletal morphology, and its ecology, was like has become a spectacle. When it comes to JP/JW, the animal went from being the king of the theropods in JP3 to being stuck on an island that no one cares about in a TV show. That's... pathetic. I think nowadays that it should have appeared in Dominion. Heck, it should've joined Rexy in fighting the Giga at the end of the film. I think Spinosaurus needs a lot of love, both in paleontology (I know that's going to be hard, but keep hope alive for more fossils so we can gain more facts about it) and in paleo-media. That's something coming from a guy that grew up hating on the animal thanks to JP3. 🤣
I always believed Spino was the opposite in terms of out it operated in its ecosystem. An extremely niche predator.
Being in a tv show no one cares about sums that up well.
Spino is a villain
If the Spinosaurus saw Camp Cretaceous, he would probably be saying "They can't keep getting away with this."
Wait..what? A semi-aquatic creature was stranded on an island? I would like to know more of the context but I can't stand the Jurassic World movies
I'm waiting on the study to try and convince me it doesn't have a sail.
Also, I love watching those videos going over the evolution of the Spino. Most of those for other dinos are fairly gradual with minimal changes, but the Spino changes so much so quickly. I also love how often they have to update the videos with a new form.
maybe the sail was actually underneath it like from a boat lol
@@garethscott8888 now im imagining upside down swimmimg spinosaurus
FUN BIT - it could have been a hump! Modern day animals with similar (but less impressive) large vertebrae include Rhinoceros and American Bison. In these animals, the vertebrae support a large group of muscles in the neck and shoulders for swinging their big heavy heads around, and so look like shoulder humps with the skin on. They're not proportionally as big as the Spinos, of course, but the boy could have been rotund like a goddamn hippo. I don't know if the spines have indication of muscle attachment, but it's something that -could- be! Love this enigma of a theropod.
The Spinosaurus has always been one of my favorite carnivorous dinosaurs, even before I watched Jurassic Park 3 when I was little.
yes yesss just yesss man mine too dont get why ppl ever hated it
@@GangsterGringo most dinosaur fans are REX SIMPS
@@groudonor12 T-Rex has and always will be my all-time favorite Dinosaur.
@@GangsterGringocause it is an glorified fish eater lol, Carnos and Allo are cooler
@@thehulkster17smash34 see exactly. Point proven.. rex is sooooo boring now, it used to be so cool but now he's just so boring
I hope we get to see The Spinosaurs in a future Jurassic movie. I would also like to see it do something other than fighting a Tyrannosaurus rex
Agreed! I was really hoping to have seen one in Dominion.
@@dinosaurfan2409 me too
I want spino to beat rex again
In fairness it did eat a phone and show up unheard with phone ringing in its stomach. It also fought a boat.
Iike genetically modified to talk and play cards. That would be great.
The real problem when it comes to the paleontology of big carnivores, is that they imagine them in cage matches against other big carnivores, when in reality they probably only ate smaller vertebrates and avoided other big carnivores.
This exactly! I'm sick of people thinking that all large carnivores did was pick fights with one another. Just look at modern day animals and it becomes quite clear that most species tend to avoid unnecessary fights because the risk often is greater than the reward.
They did not likely have to contend with territory... but probably with their own kind. Same as modern day predators. They compete with each other, not against others. Besides that, many dinos lived in completely different eras. Often the time between us and the last dinos was far shorter than the time between when 2 predator dino species lived.
mostly carcasses as well...idk about avoiding others,the fossils show combat wounds in various theropods..sometimes from other theropods ..one report in particular mentions cannibalism in t rex..and hypothesized that they did fight over carcasses ....
@@LG22475 but its not unheard of entirety in the fossil record...plenty of theropod fossils show various injuries by other theropods and its not far fetched to say they did fight...
@@jackstraw4222ok Jack horner scavenger thing is debunked by now you should know it
My biggest problem with modern Spinosaurus is the odd-shaped spine that looks broken. How many "Spinosaur spines" have they discovered that are like this exactly? o-O
It may change designs and behaviors constantly, but I'll always love this dinosaur to death.
Spinosaurus is indeed controversial from what it might look like to what type of diet it had in my opinion I wouldn't be surprise if the appearance of it in paleontology changes again within the next century.
As per the JP3 Spineo as a kid I felt like it was a Frankenstein. The promo material had green eyes like it had night vision and it seemed WAY too strong and smart. Kinda like instead of splicing other reptiles DNA to finish the code they just used already fished Rex and Raptor DNA to make everything faster in the lab. This could easily explain why the Spineo was so protective of its territory and seemingly wanted revenge.
There was a deleted scene in JP3. The 2 guys with guns, killed a baby Spino. So the mother chases them the entire movie for revenge.
I have no idea why they removed such a vital part of the story.
The thing I love about paleontology is that everything that doesn't have an obvious use (or has an obvious use that's being refuted) the feature in question is dismissed as a display structure. Its like how in archaeology, anything that looks weird is labeled as an object of ritual purposes. Basically, its just a way of saying "I have no idea what it is" without sounding dumb.
In one of your old videos, you talked about the Game Boy Advance tie-in game Island Attack. I had that game as a kid, and also beat it several times. The Spino's motivation for chasing you is still left unresolved like in the movie.
In the Movie when the Plane started to fly they cut a piece of Spinos Sail thats why he chased them
Nice vid that got me thinking.
My two cents about factors we should keep in mind for dinosaurs as a clade:
1. the amount of time they had to diversify
2. how much closely related animals today differ in lifestyle and physiology
3. how incomplete the fossil record is (i.e. absence of transitional forms and how much weirder dinosaurs likely await to be found)
4. how much of dinosaur physiology / behaviour is still conjecture
Having said that, I think we should remain open-minded about the POSSIBILITY of semi-aquatic, fully aquatic (of course we’d need evidence) and fully feathered dinosaurs.
Speaking to the latter, and given the unlikelihood of such integument being preserved at all, there seems plenty of time and diversity for dinosaurs to have had developed soft parts completely novel to scientific observation.
In any case, and IMO, the Spino controversy speaks to the fact we’re living through a palaeontological golden age.
The spinosausus was not “aquatic”
@@rodrigopinto6676 it’s definitely possible. The only way Paul managed to make it preform so poorly was by decreasing the bone density to 0.83 (which is lower then other theropods) and increasing the musculature of the tail to the point it was no longer flexible. Besides it seems Nizar found a new specimen.
Even if it's inaccurate I love the JP3 design
Love the spinosaurus so much. Such a fascinating animal in real life, and while less interesting in Jurassic Park, being a literal t.rex-hunting kaiju is still pretty damn cool.
Yo!
My thoughts exactly
It is not.
@@solidSnake4580 Elaborate, please?
That's been laid to rest. Watch a short video called Jack Horner on Spinosaurus for context.
Spinosaurus was my favorite dinosaur in Jurassic park 3 when I first saw it like it was the first dinosaur to take down a t-rex when I first saw it as a child i was shock and scared of this thing
Great video Klayton! The Spino has been a favorite since I was little, and it’s kinda sad to watch it constantly be redesigned. I wish they would just focus on getting all the information they can before making a judgement. I love both the JPIII and short-legged, M-sailed, S-necked, paddle-tailed versions, and they just go to show how unique the Spino really is.
On a completely different note, Klayton, I’m writing a story: a retelling of Jurassic World from the point-of-view of the dinosaurs. Not everything is the same, however, and while it is based on JW, there are many creative liberties taken to incorporate lore from the films, novels, the show, and even many of the games, like Trespasser and JP:tG. Mysteries and plot twists await.
It’s more of an anthology series than a single novel, each chapter is its own story. The first chapter is fully written and revised, and the second is well underway.
The reason for my bringing this up is because you know Jurassic Park better than anyone I know, and I’d like for you to read it and give me feedback if it interests you, maybe even collaborate on future chapters, since I have plans for Dominion and beyond. If you want to read it, just let me know, I’m really excited to share it with you!
I’ll continue my work on Jurassic World: /Terrible Lizards,/ and until then, take it easy.
If you’re interested, I can send you a short 1 1/2 page prologue I wrote to sort of gauge your interest, how does that sound?
Alteori made some videos like this,with pov of buck,the baby rex,Blue and Delta
That is all interesting, in fact I still love spinosaurus no matter how different it is either in real life or in form of media such as the Jurassic franchise and prehistoric planet.
I've always loved the spinosaurus, especially how it was portrayed in JP3. Even if it's not an accurate representation of the real dinosaur, it still looks amazing to this day. Which is the most underrated part of JP3, the effects are better than most of the JP/JW movies. I would like for paleontologists to definitely discover what the spinosaurus truly looked like in my lifetime.
Absolutely they even have a video JP3 making of the spino and even said to this day the spino animatronic of JP3 is the most biggest and most difficult and biggest project Jurassic part team has ever made for the franchise to this day not even the T rex was this difficult and heaviest
It speaks volumes right there and seeing the actual big prop of the spino iam like daaamn no wonder LOOK AT THAT ACTULE THING!!!!!
Nothing in 3 looks better than anything from JP or lost world, lol
Paleotologist: Will the real Spinosaurus stand up and say 'Here'?
7 versions of Spinosaurus: HERE!
Paleotologist: I give up.
No matter how controversial this dinosaur is, Spinosaurus is still one of my favorites.
That being said...... T-Rex still Rules!!!
We all know why it is, without even watching the video
If giant dinosaurs were so disadvantaged by their size, how were they so successful and around for so long. I never understand why people put that theory out to there
I hope we get to see the spino in a future movie
Hope too
Yeah
And finally get defeated by T. rex.
@@solidSnake4580it already got defeated in CC.
@@Black_Wolf1357 CC doesn’t count. I don’t consider that show canon and most people want a death battle where Spino doesn’t get off easy.
I seriously think all of the paleontologists are right on many of their points. They just can't get over the idea that someone has to be wrong instead of looking at the collective data and saying, "Hmm, maybe we're all correct and we should collaborate to fine tune these ideas."
Nope. I'm right. You're wrong. My team is better than your team 😓
Paleo definitely has a lot of know-it-alls who care more about being Right than actually being curious on how an animal looked and behaved. You'll have both educated folk and complete shmucks in comments acting as if they've got actual footage to back up their claims, it's frustrating. I feel like if any dinosaur should be a good example to humble people and show how little we know, it should be Spinosaurus.
My comment is better than yours 😡
Love the more paleo oriented content. Keep it up brother. God Bless!
The spinosaurus has always been my favorite. It came more of a favorite of mine in adult years, because it's just frustrating, annoying and it's forever changing, that's why it makes it even more FASCINATING!
Hi man I love your videos! Keep up the great work!👍
As some one who "ran in those circles" and even was bit pretentious of paleontology and depictions, you hit the nail on the head. I've always seen the paleontology field as comparable to a bunch of kids in a big sandbox arguing over what was dug up. Highly charged and emotional, taking great deal of fun out of the whole thing and taking the whole matter WAY too seriously. And the only remedy, which you good sir seem to have found, is rediscovering or keeping the childlike wonder and love of it and not caring too much about all over the top sciencey side. After all, most of this is for fun so why not focus on. You know, within reason.
Spinosaurus might be one of the most controversial dinosaurs of all time. But can it see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
That classic intro got me! Nice!
Great video Klayton Fioriti and I pretty much agree that Spinosaurus is one of the most controversial dinosaurs in the franchise and great analyzing of the Spinosaurus in the franchise.
Great work and as always, Take It Easy.
I think it is a crocodile that prefers to live on the coasts, but it has the ability of feet, muscles and hugeness that make it move away from the coast and move comfortably for a long distance without worrying
There one thing sure it 100 per cent a dino
Its cool to see my favorite dinosaur (I chose it as my favourite just because I saw how cool it looked in Jurassic Park Builder) being discussed and talked about
This is like the Cold War between paleontologists. One side says Spino is like this, the other side says Spino is like that.
Both sides trying to prove each other wrong and Spino is caught in the middle.
Like the bone wars of our time.
Hey Klayton I REALLY MISS your background ambient music that used to play. It added a lot of iconic atmosphere to your videos that I’ve always loved.
I would really like to see it come back!! 😔
The funny thing about all this is that his skeleton is so incomprehensible that they are even proposing that we may have put it together wrong.
Ever since I first saw JP3, Spino is still my favorite dinosaur. And it stays my favorite simply because we cannot make up our minds about it.
Bro you had me dying with that intro 😂😂😂
Spinosaurus is kinda problematic since there is a possibility this animal actually a chimera
Loved the wrestling reference, brother!
Good grief! There is just so much disagreement on this one creature...but I agree that no matter what, Spinosaurus always looks really cool.
Baryonyx and Suchomimus: Why can't you be just like your family?
Spino is just so cool, a walking croc with a sail is just too badass. Claws and usable arms, big tail. Just so cool
Spino is my brother's favorite dino.
Hoping Jurassic Park has the balls to show Spinofaarus.
It would truly be ahead of its time.
It's an amalgamation of different fossils and sizes. At this point, it is better to have Spinosaurus similarly to other bipedal relatives like Baryonyx. Would answer a lot of questions.
Not in the slightest LMAO. The only fossils we dont have of spinosaurus that dont paint a clear picture of what the animal looked like would be its ribs and arms, thats it. All other fossils we have of it are attributed to Spinosaurus aegyptiacus, not anything else. Scientists just don't make mistakes like Brontosaurus excelsus (who is back btw) anymore. We have far more tech than we did 100, even just 20 years ago
@@IndominusRex-wc1ey That's wrong. Making Oxalaia, Sigilmassasaurus, Spinosaurus B and Spinosaurus Maracanus synonymous has been debated among paleontologists since the 2014 reconstruction. The margin of error is just too big to not notice. They used the neotype (a subadult from a different location) and scaled it to what they think would make an adult size with different fossils and sizes.
Scientists will always keep making mistakes because something new will always make changes.
One of my favorite scenes in the entire franchise, is in JP3 when they turn around after reuniting with Alan and Eric and see the Spino just staring at them.
I love you used WCW for this a man of culture
0:02 my brain just went "bonk"
Love it!! I always found it hard to believe how those front claws could equate to quadropedalism...but maybe they could. I'm a skeptic at heart. Science seems to be more about defending theories than actual provable facts. Spino is a fascinating animal that I expect may prove everyone wrong when more fossil evidence is unearthed. Perhaps it was a scavenger that snatched dying fish out of the water while actively hunting pterosaurs...I can't help but recall my childhood when Apatosaurus/Brontosaurus could only support it's immense weight by being submerged in swamp water. 🤣🤣
I can't wrap my head around the evolution of spinosaurus, it's still such an amazing and bizarre creature.
Size shape scales controversy... Excitement
The pro wrestling meme was funny 😂
I remember when it was unlocked in Warpath and it looked Drastically different from how it would be depicted in JP3. Even the Lost World figure was different!
Great video! Spinosaurus is such a cool creature. Whatever the future holds for it, I think it's cool that different ecological niches are being considered for this animal. And it seems to me like the one consistent feature, other than a couple outliers, is a semiaquatic or at least coastal lifestyle. Whether that be a crocodile-like lifestyle, or maybe something that wades and spears fish like a giant heron, it's cool that it's occupying some sort of special ecological niche that other giant carnivores clearly weren't (no matter which niche that ends up being). I think it's neat when we find animals that are clearly really specialized, even if we don't fully know what that means for it yet.
Come for the dinosaur editorials, stay for the WWE/WCW cut-ins. 😂 (Seriously though, I never knew you were a fan of professional wrestling Klayton.)
I love wrestling! Just finished rewatching all of 1986 - 1989 in the WWF! Now onto WCW! Can’t wait to see Randy and Hogan get there!
This constantly changing of Spinosaurus's reconstruction reminds me of one of our cats. He will literally cry and cry to go outside or come inside and then want back in or back out like 2 or less minutes later. He'll even stand right at the door while we wait for him to hurry up and decide what he wants to do.
JP3 Spinosaurus looks more fun then today
Looks boring to me, just a Baryonyx with a sail
This is a certified Dino classic
As an average layman with fairly good understanding of biology, it definitely looks like it's aquatic
I’ve talked about this on my channel. It’s a bummer because we can never see it in prehistoric planet until people agree on how it lived it’s life
The most controversial dinosaur
T-Rex: huh I wonder who it is?
Spinosaurus: It's me, Austin !
T-Rex: Aw son of bitch.
Maaaan... I love the intro bro! Keep up the great work 👍
The fact that you are using the wwe fights as to show how it feels with the Constant debate on paleontology
Nice topic, I like see you talk about paleontology around the dinosaurs of the franchise 🙂👍🦕🦖
Something I’ve always wondered about dinosaurs, which may help explain the contradictions of the Spino in particular; and that is if there are different breeds of each species that vary differently over their evolutionary lifespan?
Well, breeds isn't the word. But yes, subsets of species such as subspecies, clines and races would certainly have been the case.
Yep, just like there are indian/african elephants for example. Sexual dimorphism and how the animal changed as it went from baby to adult is also something to keep in mind.
Spinosaurus is among my top favorite dinosaurs, with T.rex still being my all-time number one. Its size is incredible, and the overall biology makes it so unique, and Jurassic Park really helped grab my imagination for it over the years. I hope we find more complete specimens to finally have a more thorough understanding to what this dinosaur is. As a dinosaur and paleontology fan, I will not go against current theories and potential evidence, but honestly, I actually do wish Spinosaurus can be portrayed like how it was in the early 2000's. I've come to like that look. I guess having such shot legs despite being such a large theropod still strikes odd to me.
The entire Spinosaurid family is an anomaly that is constantly changing. The legs and body length are the oddest considering they are so different compared to all their cousins. There's also the idea that there's multiple species
I wish in JP3 they hit the point more of the Spino being more of a hybrid (compared to the other dinosaurs) and get more in-depth on its history…feel like that could of driven a better story. Especially if the plane killed its mate, which would of driven it to hunt the group, and eventually yes fight to trex (in a previous video I said should of fought a pair of Ceratosaurus in the forest instead of the spino) 🤷♂️I love the movie don’t get me wrong but I think that would of been better
Well, back then the idea of Hybrids existing in JP didn’t occur until Jurassic World. By the time JP3 came out that was just how people thought Spinosaurus looked, it being a Hybrid creature was merely a retcon due to the fact by that point the newer discoveries and theories had come out that presented Spinosaurus as it is now.
@@MorgothZEone I mean you’re not wrong🤪
Spinosaurus description in 2100: It was an alien.
I remember watching this channel a lot a few years back, glad to see you're still making quality content
Spino is prob up there for me in terms of favorite, and i always liked the semi aqautic theory, and the idea that it was kinda both quadra and bipedal, idk, just felt the most right to me personally, im not a paleontologist though
Can't wait for the Spinosaurus discovery where we find out that it could breath fire
In my opinion, the Spinosaurus is a controversial topic in the world of Jurassic Park, but personally, it's one of my favorites. The dispute surrounding its role in the franchise, especially its showdown with the T. rex, has sparked passionate debates among fans. While I understand the concerns of those who feel it challenges established tradition, I'm drawn to its unique design and the narrative possibilities it offers due to its semi-aquatic adaptation. I acknowledge that its limited screen time might have contributed to its lack of recognition, but its impact on popular culture and the scientific intrigue surrounding its potential lifestyle have led me to consider it one of my personal favorites within the thrilling world of Jurassic Park.
Great video!
part of me thinks that the disagreements is all a stunt to confuse people with contradictory research for their gain and generating ad money, since spinosaurus is popular enough to milk people with
Nice video klayton , and while it s really unknown for now . I still have hope will see the spinosaurus return in the future of the “Jurassic saga” .
Also I love the game Ark but I haven’t had time to play it .
Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus my favorite 🔥💪
Great wrestling bits. That chair is truly underrated
I'm convinced the spinosaurus in jp3 was a hybrid.
Also nice video man
I've learned about what happened to the bones of a Spinosaurus in another video. That sucked! Fossils should be protected and cared for. And I watched Paul Sereno on stage with a friend talk about dinosaurs!🦕🦖 People have been mentioning "Ark Survival" to me. That game looks like fun!
Great video! That reminds me, I watched episodes of tv shows about Spinosaurus, read books with Spinosaurus in them, and learned fun facts about them.
Recently there was a new spinosaurus that was discovered in Europe it was quite big while paleontologist official name they just simply called it White Rock spinosaurid
@@animezilla4486 Oh!
Awesome video! 🌟
I like to think it was a giant Bipedal sail back crocodile, just cause thats a cool idea. Also speaking of Spinosaurus Page One, a Beast Pirate in One Piece was clearly inspired by the Jurassic Park Spino
Spinosaurus mentions
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It's like a reverse platypus. Instead of a complete animal that can be fully studied, we have a limited skeleton that no one knows much about. Every new fossil comes with its own share of problems that will unlikely be resolved.
Well Spinosarurs is the one that still been talk about to this day but I Will Say that Pretty nice you been Playing Ark Survival Evolved it a really fun game to play when you have spare time and such
Am i the only one that doesn't see the Spinosaurus as some Killing Machine?
No, you aren’t
No
Spinosaurus is my favourite dino! I know it gets a lot of dislikes (because they rushed it in JP3 and the actors didn't show respect to T-Rex) but it is still so neet. In JP3, it was a breath of fresh air, and there's nothing wrong with Rexy, but there are other dinosaurs and people want to see them.
I feel like this also applies to Oxalaia, another Dino very similar in appearance to Spinosaurus. If they do have it make an appearance that is. I know the last the Primal Ops model looks surprisingly good despite the inaccuracies, and they could use that as its main look in the movies or tv shows. Yet another part of me understands that it would simply get a lot of confusion if they add two animals that look very similar and confuse the audience. Still, I feel like they could use a scene to where a spinosaur facing off against something like a giant crocodile, like Sarcosuchus or Deinosuchus. Or if they go the extra route, have it fight a Carcharodontosaur that has a little bit of actual fact
The intro had me dead🤣🤣 spino really just wrecked everything
It's actaully kinda disgusting how scientists love to state theories as fact.
I like how Spinosaur looks in Jurassic Park 3. Modern incarnations with tiny legs look worse in my opinion.
Spinosaurus my favorite!
It feels like a new study with radical rethinkings about the spino comes out EVERY OTHER MONTH.
Klayton. I think we get it. You enjoyed WCW.
Big sail, flat tail, overall sleek… seems pretty aquatic to me. I bet they could wiggle their whole body like ribbons to swim. The sail could’ve been a stabilizer… I’m imagining the spino swimming not entirely horizontal but kinda at a angle.