Inside Japan's Mini North Korea | Unreported World
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2023
- For Unreported World, Secunder Kermani meets a curious community of Koreans who live in Japan but feel a close bond with one the world’s most repressive states, North Korea.
Their community is centred around the Chongryon, a powerful residents association with strong links to the North Korean regime.
Unreported World has been given rare access to try to understand what lies behind their beliefs.
Born and raised in Japan, this community has their own unique schooling system, complete with portraits of North Korean leaders in every classroom.
Secunder meets a volatile ultranationalist activist targeting the schools and a former Chongryon member suing the North Korean government.
Producer/Director: Liam O’Hare
Series Producer: Andy Lee
Executive Producer: Ed Fraser
Production Company: Channel 4 News
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It makes me so sad to think about how excited that lady must of been when she boarded the boat to North Korea. She grew up getting told it was a paradise and she was finally getting to go to this paradise, only to find the opposite. She had no idea the 40 years of pain that was waiting for her when she boarded that boat. She must of felt so betrayed when she arrived and found the truth.
If you're interested, track down and read a copy of The Aquariums of Pyongyang by Kang Chol-hwan.
It's like in Interstellar when they got tricked into thinking they were going to a good planet only find out it was totally barren..
Truth shall unbearable, Truth shall enlighten the unsawful lots, Claimed true not from the outside but within you.
yes, this is probably the saddest thing about this whole story..
*must have felt
I found it quite interesting that every time the reporter asked about human rights abuses in North Korea, nobody denied his accusation - they all just pointed the finger elsewhere saying "what about XYZ?" as if it's somehow okay to violate human rights as long as you're not the only one doing it.
This was the most interesting part to me, it was the same misdirect non answer to every question, even by the far right nationalist. Delusion clearly present in all.
I have the same feeling... They didn't answer directly to those questions, just ignore and try to move to other topics. Somehow they are also in the trap in their minds...
"Whataboutism" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
they are funded by NK
so they do not actually support NK, they just need money
cant blame them tho. we basically do it all the time but directly idolisng the culture around it is a bit weird
Although I am Japanese, I have always wondered about issues related to Korean schools.
In Korean schools, the Kim family is worshipped and North Korea is taught as the best Korea.
However, they live in Japan and have free access to all kinds of information. Of course, they can use the Internet without censorship.
Under these circumstances, how can they believe that North Korea is a wonderful country?
韓国学校X
朝鮮学校O
違うで
逆にSNSなどどんあ情報でもアクセスできちゃうと危ないと思いますね。自分が見聞きしたい情報しか受け入れない人も多いし、変なアカウント、沢山あるでしょ！北朝鮮人学校に通う生徒だけに限らず、「こいつ一体どこから情報とってんねん？！」って言う輩、沢山いますよね。
@@domodomo7160Koreaは朝鮮
韓国はsouth Koreaね
I think it's more nuanced than that. They love where they are from (which is legitimate) but that clouds their judgement on the dictatorship and state of Korean society. One thing I noticed was that there was no picture of Kim Jong Un. The principal said the previous dictators helped the schools so they are grateful... The true reason the pictures are still there may be that the relation with the Japanese government being tense, they don't feel like seeming to "give in" to pressure? Also, according to Wikipedia, some Japanese textbooks only briefly mention Japan's war crimes during Showa...
Indoctrination, the beliefs they grew up with, coupled with school trips to pyongyang, cement their idealistic view of North Korea within their bubble. I can throw that question back to the Japanese, you don't learn much about Japan's actions during WWII, the textbooks are censored but you have the internet no? Is it willful ignorance or lazy disinterest? For every one person who finds out the truth, there are ten others that are blindsided, you can't expect everyone to rise to understand.
They seem to be more comfortable speaking Japanese than Korean. And as a native Korean speaker, I can't help but notice that even the teachers in the Korean school seem to be speaking a distorted variant of Korean, which sounds very foreign and sometimes incomprehensible to Korean ears. At one point, when the young girls were answering in Korean, I had to look at the subtitles to understand what they were saying, because their pronunciation was all over the place. The students also generally had a poor command of it.
I feel sad for them, honestly. North Koreans, who strongly value racial purity, will never accept them as true Koreans. If they actually decide to move to North Korea for some reason, they'll probably face discriminations worse than they did in Japan.
They don't consider Japan their home. Yet they are blissfully unaware of the fact that North Korea definitely does not want them, and that they are already more Japanese than Korean.
I don't understand why you're seeking funds from the Japanese government while still teaching about Korea and refusing to take down the Kim photo. The simple solution is for you to leave Japan, as it's normal anywhere else that if you want funding, you need to follow the standards and rules set by the country's government. No country will fund schools that treat the land they're standing on as an enemy and a dictator's country as their homeland, as it would be a waste of funds and resources
you're assuming a lot of things sweetie.
@@kimcheezy3433 tell us what part of what she said was wrong
I don't get why it's the state's obligation to fund private schools. Can't they not just fund it themselves? Same issues with Muslims demanding that the states in Europe build and fund mosques and Islamic schools for them. Why can't they just fund it themselves? It's they who want it. The state won't fund me money to start a company, I either got to save up money or take out a loan for that to happen.
Let's not forget this school used to be a base of operation for North korean spies back in the day
2:35 then go back... *Why* *stay* *in* *unknow* *country?*
One aspect that raises questions for me is the fact that a group of North Korean people in Japan openly support North Korea's ideology and dictatorship without facing any consequences. They can enjoy a secure and materially rich life in a democratic country, demand voting rights without obtaining Japanese citizenship, and proudly express loyalty to the North Korean government. Meanwhile, the people who truly suffer the consequences of the regime are those living in North Korea. However, I can somewhat understand that these individuals may feel alienated in Japan and might need some sort of illusion to tell themselves they are not disconnected from everything, as they seek a sense of belonging and connection to their homeland.
They technically have voting rights by birth, as well as citizenship but through mental gymnastics claim North Korea is their home and refuse the rights given by birth, but than decide that they need them at a later point to push their agendas against Japan itself. Weird things. They also ignore all the open information of North Korea as well as fail to level with other issues that they push that harm the local and international image of Japan. I do feel for them being minorities but that only goes so far.
Right. It felt absurd for them to demand financial support and voting right when they openly show loyalty to another country.
I guess it is complicated since they are discriminated but still wants to preserve their unique identity as Korean ethnicity.
@d11d77 i think it's a right to do all these things as an American, and Japan was forced to have most of these ideas. It doesn't mean they still haven't grown past racism and isolationist ideas yet. Even though the US has issues, it's much more willing. I wonder what the future really holds for NK , as an American working in Japan, watching the constant shitshow.
They support Kim. And Kim launches missiles targeting Japan.
This is why some of Japanese get mad at them.
Actually these people have money and influence on some Japanese politicians. So this weird situation remain to be changed….
Why they have money?
Because during occupation of Japan by the US, Japanese police officers cannot arrest them.😂😂😂 Some of my family’s estate was robbed by them after WW2.
Funny thing is that 97% of Japanese Koreans have their roots in modern day South Korea. Also alot of them have relatives that migrated to North Korea from Japan in the 1960s and are probably suffering.
This video makes me so sad and angry at the same time. As a person who is living under the other big dictatorship, it baffles me how people cannot look past the propaganda, but at the same time it makes me so sad that these people believe this propaganda and are taking the freedom they have in Japan for granted. So many people from their homeland die every year just attempting to have half of their freedom.
The less they know about their home country the more they yarn it................
They're likely still under threat from the NK government in Japan. Not trying to excuse anything, just a reminder that NK defectors aren't completely safe and Japan is not that far away. You know what I mean?
Also, if you grew up with that level of brainwashing, you'd likely struggle to see past it too. It's admitting that their entire lives and understanding of the world is a lie. This is definitely possible and people do it, but it's far from easy. Even people that have left cults can struggle with remnants of the brainwashing they learned within them after years because it's just that hard to shake.
When you realize that most of the world is only half as smart as yourself, it all starts to make sense. Most humans are borderline retarded.
What dictatorship are you currently living under?
@@GodSaveTheUnitedStates prob China.
Imagine living in Japan and being loyal to N Korea while prospering in a capitalist country. How blind do you have to be.
The video looks like it was recorded at a basically secluded rural area. Japan does have a lot of those :l
They have the best of both worlds-believing in communism’s virtues while living a comfortable capitalist nation life.
@@mynamesplatinum ? that was Kyoto
@@akaRyuka and Kyoto is not a big metropolis like Tokyo 😄
As a South Korean, I am only surprised by Japan govt's 'generosity' toward such organization. I wonder more about how the government can allow such schools to exist.
If schools in South Korea teach such content, everyone who cooperates with it will face criminal charges and the school will be closed.
If the Japanese government tries to intervene in the communities that foreigners are creating, the foreigners and their sympathizers will cry racism, and the government will give in to them. People lack insight.
Put another way, Japan is a freer society than Korea lol.
That’s because your government is at war dummy
Because of the obvious historical context, I think a lot of politicians are afraid to push back against it too hard. Despite the discrimination they face in public, the government itself is uneasy with the backlash involved in denying Koreans rights because of the optics, even if the rights in question are "The right to use propaganda to brainwash young people".
Which is pretty crazy, because God knows the LDP has no problem with anti-Korean sentiment on the whole, but Japanese government tends to be very slow moving and beauracratic so getting anything actually done, especially something with clear downsides, is difficult.
@@takanara7 No, no it doesn't. Freedom doesn't mean absolute freedom. You aren't allowed to violently threaten someone or the classic "Yell fire in a crowded theater". That doesn't mean you live in an unfree country, only a small mind would be that limited in conception.
Now, if you argue that "Supporting North Korea" isn't the same thing as causing imminent harm that may be an argument, but it relies heavily on what "Support" means. Talk is one thing, but materially supporting a hostile nation is completely different.
@@augusth8212 in what textbook was japan colonized during those years? I legit want to know because the textbook i had told me that japan was colonizing countries including Indonesia (where i’m from) in the 40s till the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki
What I'm getting is these are some very privileged Japan-born North Koreans who feel like outsiders in Japan. And when they visit their "homeland", they were provided with a very comfortable and welcoming visit, so that they were not exposed to the hardships of regular N Korean people. This makes them cling to their tight-knit community and defend it as well as their leaders, even if it means turning a blind eye to the human rights abuse in their "homeland".
It's a delicious irony that the country they hate so much still treats them better than their homeland considering most North koreans cant even afford to live
Some of them are Japanese this shouldn’t be allowed at all
I agree, I had a co-worker years ago who fled to China from N. Korea and now immigrated to the US. If it really was this paradise then so many people wouldn't be risking their lives leaving. These Japan-born N. Koreans "going back" to N. Korea for a visit would obviously be shown the sunshines and rainbows, not the hardships. It's like visiting a country for a few days/weeks and visiting a country for extended periods of time. (Though some YTers that have visited N. Korea might have been given some hospitality, it was still pretty doom and gloom.)
@@echung168 lol you eat propaganda like free candy
You are so right, totally exposing the hypocrisy of these people
This is an insult to the countless people who have risked their lives to make it out of North Korea, or those that died trying.
The Japanese earnestly desire that all Koreans in Japan return to the Korean peninsula.
@@azurecliff8709 why do you keep on saying that o-o
Some Japanese love Korean and Korean culture! Foreign diplomacy just makes it difficult for Japanese and Korean people to see eye to eye in politics is all
I literally have plenty-o' Korean kids at my school! No qualms here at least :)
@@azurecliff8709 Your country will die without immigration.
It's kind of like that "not hate, heritage" argument.
Millions of people try to imigrate from Central America to USA every year. Many of them die. Why would it be an insult?
They should return to their beautiful homeland of North Korea. Why do they stubbornly continue to live in Japan? That's the biggest contradiction.
Totally agree! If the people truly believe in the grand leaders of North Korea, they should be with them :D
彼等は「特別」になりたいだけだからだよ。彼等は日本での生活を手放すつもりはないが、周りの人間と違って自分たちは特別な存在であると思い込みたいんだ。
Same as Communist Latinos who like Cuba
@@SH-vh1tsthat’s a bs excuse. It still stands. If you love it so much go there and don’t live in Japan. It’s really that simple. If you hate Japan so much cuz if “discrimination” and all this. Go back to your ppl in North Korea and see how you fare. The older woman who escaped knows this from personal experience. You and these NK lovers should listen to her more closely.
They Zainichi Koreans, some of their generations have never stepped foot in North or South Korea they call Japan their home, back then the Japanese government helped open up these schools to get the Koreans outta of Japan and North Korea was willing to take them
I, as a Japanese, am all against the racism in Japan towards Korean people living in Japan. I'm all for living together and creating a community, which unite us to form a new community.
But, although I don't hate people of North Korea, I can not get behind what they are doing in those communities. I do not hate them as people but I can not get behind on their beliefs. Praising a regime that has kidnapped so many children and has constantly been shooting missles over Japan while expecting us to like them as what they believe is nearly impossible.
They obviously know that the propaganda there is fake, otherwise they would've gone back already like many people in the past did and suffered as a result. I don't mind them living as Koreans, in fact I think it's beautiful that we can have diversity like that, but I can't get behind the fact they worship the ruthless leader of the North and expect us to not have negative feelings about them.
Sadly many of them don't know or don't wish to know the reality of North Korea. It's like a cult for them. They have internalized their mistreatment in Japan and see North Korea as a sort of promise land. It's similar to how the kids of Muslim immigrants who not once ever lived in a Muslim nation becoming radicalized into terrorists.
THIS!!!!❤
全くもってその通りです
より多くの人が笑顔になれることを望みます。自分の笑顔のために倫理観、他者の笑顔を犠牲にすることは許されない
I think the issue is down to the fact that Japanese mainstream media have a rather west-leaning reporting tendency, and to 朝鮮-sympathizers this definitely feel like a smear campaign and being discriminated systemically. I am not saying the Japanese news media are totally blind to the corruption of the Japanese politicians with corporations, but it requires a huge scandal like Abe's assassination for the mainstream media to really care about the local corruptions.
it's exactly as you say, it's the fact that they believe north korea is a true paradise and worship a regime that is killing thousands day by day. Funny thing is, there is not a single South Korean who would claim these 'North Koreans' as Koreans. So in fact, it's sad but the truth is, they don't belong to any country. They don't have a chance in surviving the real North Korea, they are not Japanese by heritage and they can never be South Korean by mentality. It's clear they have been taken advantage by people who receive funding from the north Korean government to continuously brainwash these malleable young people into thinking they have something in common .
"What we saw in North Korea is quite different from what is reported, so it's not correct to call it brainwashing"
This is about as narrow-minded as one can get. Every trip to North Korea is carefully planned by the regime to not show people the horrors that are going on there. Have they ever wondered why they're not allowed to roam freely around the country?
Because they are at war? Why do you act like things are a mystery. Use the internet. Jesus Christ
Even more ironic is why they speak this while they are living in comfortable Japan or other country? Why don't they live in North Korea? 😂 clearly he is a spy
@@derek123wil0 Well, at least we are allowed to view the internet....
@@derek123wil0 “war”
@@4eignrwhy say it like that? They lost 20% of their population, had the bubonic plague dropped on them & every building flattened by the US & its allies in the 1950s & only an armistice was signed. All of this after decades of colonial rule from Japan. The US practices war games with south Korea & Japan on the border of North Korea annually, the US illegally invades their airspace all the time & has placed the world’s biggest sanctions package on the nation that caused it to starve in the 1990s & is the reason it cannot trade with the outside world, did you know that?
How do you expect a country to act when this is their current reality & history?
I worked in one of these schools about 21 years ago, for just a couple of months.
The thing I remember more than anything is the amount of cigarettes the teachers smoked in the staff room and the amount of shouting they did at the kids. Strangely, they didn't even seem to be shouting out of anger. It was as though it was just the way they communicated. They were friendly enough with me, and the kids were friendly, if somewhat reticent to speak, but that was likely due to the kids having too little confidence in their English (and my having only beginner's Japanese at the time).
Don't often think about that time nowadays, but this was a nice reminder.
The Japanese earnestly desire that all Koreans in Japan return to the Korean peninsula.
All Koreans?
All North Koreans?
I have no reason to believe that the former is true, though the latter may be.
@@azurecliff8709
私日本に住んでいるインド人ですが、この動画見てすごくびっくりしてるんですよ。
こんなに北朝鮮が好きやったら、もうずっとそこに住めばいいと思うんだけどね。
レポーターさんは何回も人権のことを聞こうとしたんだけど、それに答えず他のところを言い出したりして、そして日本のことも言ったりして完全に嫌ってるでしょ日本を、、、それでも住み続けてるっていうのはわけ分からない
When India was colonized by the British, the British placed the Anglo-Indian half-breeds and Sikhs as administrators of the society and let them rule over the majority Hindu population. The same thing is happening in postwar Japan. The US is using these Koreans to have them rule Japanese society. This is because they are hostile to Japan, and once they hold the center of Japanese society, they can easily pass the demands of their suzerain country, the US. In fact, many members of the Japanese Diet are rumored to be Koreans, and they still reign over Japan as a troublesome and privileged class.
日本語ウマスギ〜
静かに人気者になってるタイプの人が書く様な文章だ…親友3人くらいいそう｡
@@SH-vh1tsIf they like North Korea so much, they should move from Japan. Same thing happens here in Latin America with communist Latinos who like Cuba.
ありがとう、真実を言ってくれて…
日本人も彼らから差別を受けてますし、こんな平和な日本という国に住むことができているのに、文句があるなら北朝鮮へ帰ればいい。
北朝鮮は今も日本へミサイルを撃ってくる。
It seems pretty simple, if they are so unhappy they can pack their bags and go to North Korea. I guarantee you that they would be crying and begging to go back to Japan after a few months.
As we all know, there is no such thing as immigration laws and anyone can just move where ever they please on a whim
Exactly
@@xOgawa Ever heard of this thing called a residency permit? It is quite hard to get one there
@@randomuser3481 Never heard of it, I don’t give a shit about North Korea
Make that week or two, hahahahah.
I doubt these chumps would last even a full month there.
This is so weird. Being brainwashed while living in North Korea where you have no access to information is totally understandable. But being brainwashed while living in Japan, one of the most developed countries in the world is just shocking.
I think that about the white british kid (18yrs old or something) that was converted to an extremesit islamic ideology throughout covid. The kid was born and bred here, his parents werent islamic followers, but they got to him just through the web. He's now been charged with terror offences and sentenced to prison.
also why are they teaching north korean culture and not south korean? if they really wanted that funding, they should teach the south korean culture where people actually have FREEDOM.
You can also say because Japan is the most developed countries, they have the freedom to teach children whatever they want.
@@eshaybah5581 South Korean government doesn't fund organizations. That's why they teach North Korean things.
But there's a rival organization called 'Korean Residents Union in Japan' a.k.a 'Mindan' a similar organization but pro-South Korea.
The problem with Mindan is that they were somewhat affiliated with Yakuza (organized crime gangs).
They are pushed to it by the society. psychologically it makes sense. You are ostracized or made less than because of your identity then have a country who not only speaks your language and has your culture but also has someone who is considered essentially godlike, and can therefore be made to feel superior or at the very least equal to their Japanese counterparts.
拉致した国のトップが飾られている学校に補助金を出すわけないでしょ、、
そりゃ出てけってなるわな。ふざけんな
Japan kidnapped half a million North Koreans. Get out a proper history book that's not taught in Japanese schools.
What are your thoughts as a Japanese on Japan not accepting and not teaching any of it's war crimes committed against the Chinese and Korean people during the WW2 era in schools? and then you try to force this version of history on those who are teaching what actually happened?
@nileshmishra6518 Absolutely. Japanese have been brainwashed more than any North Korean.
@@falcon_224 what is related to this comment?
He is talking about the problem of "now". Don't change the subject.
在日を完全な外国人とは思わないし、人柄的に何か違うとも思わんけど、日本を否定したり日本に対して反体制的な教育をするのにお金を出してくれというのは、少なくとも民主主義国家では難しい
でもそのおかげで日本人は彼等の様な存在があると学べる。今みたいに表で晒し続けるために放置してるんだと思うよ。
What are your thoughts as a Japanese on Japan not accepting and not teaching any of it's war crimes committed against the Chinese and Korean people during the WW2 era in schools?
@@falcon_224日本が帝国時代に行っているとされた数々の問題は、未だ情報が曖昧なもの、真偽が不明なものが多く、中立的な立場で物事を教える必要のある学校教育においてはあまり掘り下げることができないというのが現状だと思います。
@@Dolimp_ Don't act so innocent, Japanese war crimes during the WW2 are well documented it's present all over the internet, Wikipedia has a huge article on this. From Rape, Chemical weapons use, starving civilians to events like Nanking massacre and even cannibalism none of this is taught about in Japanese schools is it? While Germany accepts it's war crimes Japan does not. Why do you think it's so? Is it because unlike the Nuremberg trials were the Nazis were trialed, Hirohito and rest of the Japanese imperial army were never tried for their crimes?
@@falcon_224 ドイツと日本は当時置かれていた状況が違いますから、その後の道が異なるのは当然です。ドイツは世界の中心であったヨーロッパで戦火を拡大させ、日本はそこから離れた植民地、発展途上国が多くを占めるアジアで戦火を拡大させました。ドイツはユダヤ人という“欧州人”を大量に殺害したため、第二次世界大戦の戦勝国の中心は西欧諸国、ソ連で、当時はまだ人種差別的な考えもあったでしょうから、アジア人を殺したとされる日本よりも厳しく裁かれ、その後も厳しい責任を追及されるはずです。もしアジアの中国や韓国がその当時の列強のような存在、世界の中心であったら、今、日本はドイツのような思想教育がなされていると思いますが、日本は西欧的な国であるアメリカに占領され、教育もGHQにより統制されていたために、そのような教育がされず、尚且つ日本は超保守的な国民性、国家ですから、現在まで変化もしないわけです。戦争犯罪について私はある程度真実だと思っており、申し訳なく思っていますが、日本の対中、対韓感情は良いとは言えないため、それらに欺瞞が含まれていると感じてしまうのも現状です。
Omg, this kid didn't experience anything like the average poor north Korean citizen did, like so many independent reporters have been told about from the few that managed to escape and live to tell. This kid is either dreaming or he grew up privileged and has no idea what he's defending 😮
Thats why they should be allowed to go to the place where they wud wanna go.
The power of communism!
He is defending no more than an imagined place to call home.
Says the pasty white woman who has probably never been to Asia, much less Korea, MUCH less North Korea. You know how it is and definitely know more than this descendant of North Koreans over the topic of North Korea.
North Korea vast body of evidence on human rights abuses and oppression is pretty undeniable at this point. That kid knows exactly whats going on. He's on the payroll. Thats his job. I guess there are no limits to the depths of one can reach for money.
I love that you took the full advantage of the gaijin card. I can imagine it'd be difficult for local reporters to investigate this far without getting labeled socially.
Gaijin is not a good word.
@@newsdigest375 I'm fully aware that some people use this word with bad intention. But this phrase "gaijin card" comes from my friends who live in Japan as foreigners. It is used to express the situation when foreigners sneakily take advantage of their social labeling as gaijin. For example, you can use your gaijin card to avoid NHK subscription fee collectors, or avoid unwanted social contact by pretending to not be able to speak Japanese.
@@purplesage993 Gringo just means white man lmao, nothing that bad.
@@ubcroel4022 When South Americans use the word Gringo it can be used in a negative way. It's stupid when people jump to conclusions by focusing on a word the way they think they know and ignoring context.
Obviously OP isn't using 'gaijin' in a negative way, but you can't stop sensitive people playing the race card, twisting the words and blowing things out of proportion. This is a common tactic used by mainland Chinese trolls or the lesser educated trolls(not just mainlanders) to create hatred on the internet, because they don't know or have limited info/rl experience(can't blame them), they are conditioned this way since young so they can't really help it.
It's pointless to confront them because they are narrow minded/stubborn and won't take another answer. The only hope is for them to one day have an epiphany on their own, there's no forcing it no matter how many truths or logic or reasonable counterargument you throw at them.
@@ubcroel4022 depends where you are in the world. The term is suggestive to foreigner or strictly a USA citizen.
I'm very confused, if they love North Korea so much, why don't they just leave Japan and move back to their motherland? I'm neither Japanese nor Korean, so I think I'm unbiased on this topic. I can kind of understand why some of the Japanese people are against these schools, because they are teaching radical views, or even anti-Japanese propaganda to their students. North Korea is an enemy of the state, why should Japanese people tolerate such a school existing on their soil?
I absolutely did not watch whole documentary but it is definitely possible for a person to have a fondly emotion onto something and yet also logically know it's not good in reality and willingly not to take into action
That preppy korean kid doesn't even know his cute little hairstyle would be forbidden in his homeland. Wonder how long he'd last in the camps.
As an immigrant myself I understand loving your homeland. I love my homeland too but I know that there's a dictator there that I could never support. This is a really bizarre situation happening and I feel like if they really hate Japan and feel that North Korea is the best place to be then they should try to just go there. I feel like most of them would regret it though, but sometimes a hard dose of reality is needed.
its like building schools of taliban or ISIS in the middle of NYC.
are you from russia? cuz i'm from here too and currently living in it (sadly) and i do NOT support the current president
@@heymayday8761 Not russia haha, central america. Im sorry you are in a bad situation, hopefully things get better.
There is nothing wrong about seeking to preserve your own cultural roots, but why it has to be so politisized? They speak about 'corean' culture, what about South Corea then? And what about all that history and cultural heritage of dynasties etc Before the dectatorship, why focusing on that one figure?
They definitly shoudn't go for North Korea. Heck, I don't wish even for my enemies this suffering.
I watched a RUclipsr who was born and raised in North Korea but escaped and now settle down in Japan. He talks how much freedom he gained when he live in South Korea and Japan, and how grateful life it is. As a Chinese in Japan I won’t say they are right or wrong, but I know that freedom is a precious thing, especially escaped from a brainwashed environment at once.
And ppl who are from a brainwashed country but live in another country may have a kind of stereotype. They will think that the country where they are living is unkind, unfriendly place. So rather than saying pros and cons in this country, they tend to be more like a nationalist or something, living in a foreign country but still believing that brainwashing things are their faith. That’s why I can’t understand it.
Chinese Communist Party rule is frightening. A Chinese friend of mine, who is fed up with China and has settled in Japan, says it is wonderful because Japan has freedom of speech and the right to know. In China, it is not unusual for people to go missing or be imprisoned if they criticize the regime.
@@wei10wei Bruh, stop faking that you're a foreigner. You literally have a username with pinyin in it.
@@R88ZY That's shallow. I am a Japanese who has lived in Shanghai for a long time. I can speak Chinese, too.
@@MM-gt9uy why😂FR I hope some day I can visit your country
It's really ironic that everytime the interviewer ask about North Korea's human rights violations, these people just point fingers at other places in the world instead of denying or actually giving an answer. Like "what about this country, what about XYZ", they're also doing the same thing", as if it's ok to do it when you're not the only one. Even more ironic that they have a chance to go to South Korea or North Korea yet stay in Japan and continue to say these things.
I'm Japanese living in Europe, and I'm not a racist. However, I'm totally against for subsidizing North Korean schools being existed in Japan which are close to North Korea. The city where I used to live has a North Korean school, and I made a femal friend who went to the school. We met in an afterschool activity school, and she said if students talk Japanese inside the North Korean school, teachers are mad at them and scold them because Japan is a hostile country. I still remember that I was totally shocked to hear about it. She also visited North Korea because of her school activity.
If North Korens really like their country, please move to North Korea.
Your last statement is the definition of Racist tho...
@@xudongtang2763 You are right in the sense that people who say that phrase are often racists, but I think from the context provided here it's not racist. It's just being said that people who see the country they live in as the enemy while worshipping their home, should just leave. Of course it's not as black and white in reality but I don't think the commenter or the statement inherently is racist.
I think this is a question of freedom of speech and thought. Is it lawful to live in Japan while "hating" Japan? Or only people who love Japan can live in Japan? You don't need to ask the reason why they should hate Japan while living there but not move to NK, they at least have a right to exist and that is just what a democracy is. You don't tell people how they should think and feel.
@@jasmo961 Here in the US, we don't grant them visas and let them live here unless they pretend to like it and fool immigration services. Often if they're found out, we dummy up some reason to arrest and deport them or try to use them as counterintelligence spies. The way around this is to be born here. Which is not an option for foreigners in Japan.
@@xudongtang2763 It's not as a country is not a race.
This whole situation is unfortunate. The school is not teaching the reality behind North Korea. Meanwhile, the understandable anger towards these schools are misdirected with discrimination, which likely reinforces the misguided beliefs through alienation. Nobody is at peace here. But after hearing the woman's 40 yr nightmarish tale, I think the "let people choose where they want to live" is too simplistic and lacking the compassion needed to enable change. These people should be educated, not ridiculed.
Honestly, they should go back to North Korea and put their money where their mouths are. Supporting a regime that threatens the freedom that they enjoy is absurd
During 1910-1945 Korea was not colonized but Japan was colonized. Authorites in Japan exploited people of Japan, and invested most of the money to develop/educate/modernize Korea (and Manchuria and Taiwan). Sequence (and covered facts) behind those goes back 400 years, 700 years or 1400 years...
@@augusth8212 I thought, Japan was colonized since 46 till 53
You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to be helped.
If they go move to North Korea they'll get educated real quick
I am surprised by how generous Japanese government is for letting this kind of school exist on Japanese soil, that is really weird
Tokyo is being too generous. The South Korean government would never tolerate this.
@@kevinluh5086 America and UK would censor these schools as well.
@@kevinluh5086well no shit they are still at war
@@downtomars6268The US absolutely wouldn't.
@@downtomars6268 American government actually can't censor them. 1st amendment is America's thing. but America will ABSOLUTELY not fund them. America has plenty of Russian and Chinese schools, but the only ones with Putin or Xi's face on the wall will be hosted in someone's basement.
Cannot blame japan actually, they are so generous even allowed this school to operate
The fact that they remain in Japan is the clear indicator that things are horrible in North Korea.
She even said I would love to visit but not live lmao
@@YmirAsta Which funnily enough is also my view as a Brit on America, while my friends are there my hearing-aids I have to wear would be massively expensive nevermind trying to find housing there when I can't here, and that's with the govt here actively wanting us disabled dead right now so it seems.
@@Roadent1241 you make no sense you’re not even American lol she’s from nk living in Japan t preaching how nice nk is ahahaha
@@YmirAsta Yes and at least America actually had cool things compared to here, like Disney and Universal and other theme Parks. But their healthcare costs a fortune while ours is free, so while I want to be able to see my friends and go to parks more often, my 'aids would be expensive as I said, and things are now bad here as I said. The govt there doesn't want my lot dead.
What doesn't make sense?
What I find interesting is that even though this school emphasizes that the students are North Koreans at heart, so many of these Zainichi Koreans speak in Japanese, and it's pretty clear to me that many of them speak better Japanese than Korean.
Well, as I understood, most were born and raised in Japan...
@@oliveryt7168 Right. So they were born and raised in Japan, speak Japanese as their native tongue, etc. Yet, they insist they are Korean by nationality and culture. That's precisely what's ironic and messed up about the whole thing.
@@guyklc it's definitely a messed up situation. What Aramaki said about them being gaijin is unfortunately quite common even outside of right-wing circles. This leads to a lot discrimination, both subtle and overt. Because of this, Zainichi Koreans struggle to integrate. And then comes the North Korean regime to support them. It's basically like an abusive family member protecting you from bullies. They have to pick between bad choices.
@@macroxela unless they wake up their idea and choose to support South Korea, and hopefully the South can provide funding.
@@Melcor2304 wake up their idea? Are you Singaporean? This phrase sounds Singaporean
People who just visited PyongYang for a few days don't know whole NK at all. PyongYang is a huge showcase for visitors.
In this video, the lady Kawasaki who was born as a 2nd generation Korean in Japan and moved to NK and lived for over 40years, she is the only one who knows REAL North Korea.
Exactly, if they really wanted to see NK they should visit the countryside and see what they have to endure.
Imagine getting a relative of an innocent black person who was killed by police brutality to talk about america and american police and using that as your only source and thinking you have a wholistic and unbiased view of america and police in america
@@user-nj9ru4ef2w There are high ranking government officials that have escaped North Korea as well. Their attitudes are the same: the Kims are exploiting the country out of their own greed and fear for the survival of their regime.
@@user-nj9ru4ef2w Except this isn't an isolated incident and there have been many such reports from people in Black communities.
Very insightful.
My father knew a korean Japanese guy. He came to Japan to escape the compulsory military service. He used to degrade Japan and hated it. I wonder why people still live in a country they despise. I mean go back if you don't like it. I don't like people who complain all day and do not realise how lucky they are.
You know, the Japanese earnestly hope that the troublesome North Koreans living in Japan will return to North Korea as soon as possible. This is because North Koreans residing in Japan have repeatedly committed violent incidents in Japan.
The craving for belonging is so strong that many don't see the bads as long as it means they feel welcome.
That apply to everything
We now consider the Medieval society brutal and unjust, but prolly back in those days people just thought it was just normal.
Likewise, people in the future will be appalled at the utter injustice and cruelty our society takes for granted now.
Wow, you managed to put one feature of human nature in words.
Ironically they stay in Japan rather than move into North Korea, lol
@@notamoonraker exactly!! Celebrating one's cultural roots is significant but why celebrate terrorists? And if they love their 'leaders' so much why do they live in a democratic country? This is similar to the islamic mindset. They don't want other religions thrive in their countries but brazenly impose their religion in western countries
差別って便利な言葉だね！
不都合なことがあればすべて差別で自分のことを省みたことがないからこんな他責的な大人になったんだよ
이제는 일본에서 김정은 김정일 우상화 교육을 하는 조총련 계열 학교를 폐쇄시켜야한다 북한의 간첩을 양성하는곳이다
と、レイシストが申しております
などと、他責的なことを言ってる自分ｗ
@@ag7404ミサイルを何度も日本に売ってることはなんとも思わない？
日本人の命に関わることだけど？
17:12
「安心しました」wwww
早よ帰れよwww
excellent documentary!
As a Japanese, I don't understand why they don't go back to their great homeland. After the war, the Japanese government carried out a large-scale repatriation project to repatriate Koreans living in Japan. They are the descendants of those who did not return at that time. People who live in Japan but reject Japan's obligations and demand rights such as the right to vote.
その通りです…
they know that they have better living in japan than in korea
But they keep their nationality “Korea.” And when some say “Why don’t you choose to be Japanese?”, they got angry and say “it is discrimination!!”
What the fuck?
Some of them don’t hide hostility to Japan. “If you hate Japan, please go to your motherland”, I want to say.
@@user-cp3tz9yj1z If I came to Japan, I could learn the language, get a job, blend in as much as I can, but I could no more claim to be Japanese than I could claim to be a unicorn. It isn't because I hate Japan, it's because claiming to be something I am not is just retarded.
I agree with you one hundred percent they don't like it then Japan go back to North Korea to me it looks like spies. They trying to destroy the Japanese...
very careful enemies live inside a wall..
You can see a little especially when they drink a little too much. And they blaming the Japanese for bringing them nobody is holding them there
If they don’t like japan anymore, I don’t see what stops them from leaving. If they want to go to South Korea or diffract north, no one is stopping them. As far as I see it, you live in japan, so you must abide by Japanese law. Sovereign citizens don’t exist there, or really anywhere anymore. Therefor if you don’t like what’s being preached in your country, don’t let the door hit you on the way out
If you watch the whole video, you will hear the answers to your questions.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Please observe the customs and lows of Japan.
@@user-vf7cn3oy8g If you kidnap a people and erase their hometown from the face of the earth, you don't get to fucking act surprised when they don't return to their non-existent homes.
Based
Are you dumb? They aren't Japanese citizens because Japan is a xenophobic country and revoked any Japanese nationality and citizenship rights to anyone Japanese Korea born in the country. Even though they were born there, speak Japanese and blend into society the government won't give them citizenship.
It's ironic that the North Korean school is teaching about 酒池肉林 (as seen on the blackboard).
It translates to "lakes of wine and forests of meat", some very extravagant thing an ancient Chinese emperor made when his people were probably starving.
Does that remind us of some Kim... um...
although i do not completely understand the intricacies and complexity of the history between korea and japan, i can kinda understand the koreans in japan who have convinced themselves that north korea is a nice place.
being in a country where you know your not necessarily welcome and your discriminated against because of that can play a major role in how you view the world. it builds this love hate relationship where you wouldn’t consider the country you currently reside in as paradise and you would love to be where you think you belong but at the same time “home” is not really home either 🤷🏾♀️.
i would love to look at this through a black and white lens but i just don’t think it’s that simple.
I think Koreans convincing themselves that Korea is a fine place makes sense-- North Korea is a different story though.
People have apt exposure (through the internet and such) to educate themselves outside of environments like schools. Censorship is rather low in Japan, so I am positive that most people residing in Japan would have had the time and opportunity to take a look into North Korea as a place.
Korean culture and Korean people shouldn't be dismissed, and Zainichi-Korean students should have a place to call home. (Places like Okubo, where there's a lot of Korean culture)
However this form of school shown in the video here seems to be more about indoctrinating new generations. This in turn causes more discrimination down the line.
As North Korea is a major enemy of the west, states like Japan and South Korea shouldn't be obligated to tolerate North Korean propaganda in their soil. Asking for donations is downright cynical ;-;
How is this allowed to exist in Japan? That is shocking. This is like if there is a Al Qaeda high school in the US.
I live in Japan but I didn’t even know there was a kind of brainwashing school existing here😂
The students from the Korean school are not making bombs or killing other people, much unlike the Islamists. Comparing DPRK to those savages is a little silly.
Japan has it’s pros and cons but at the end of the day, Japan is a democracy and under the Japanese constitution, everyone has the right to free speech. While I don’t agree with what they’re teaching, I believe that it should not be in anyone’s power to take that right away from them.
Well by law every muslim is a terrorist by what they believe in, they are barded from having Non Muslim friends and are told to lie to them about actually being friends, and looking at the Quran with all the stuff about having to kill non believers, in book 8 Hadith 44 of the Quran it literally says Mohammed ( the man which the Muslims follow) was orders to fight the people as long as they don't submit to Allah, Something something Slaughter as we Slaughter pray as we pray. As long as they follow Mohammed they but be like him.
@@sadfit5518same, i never thought these schools existed
옛날 조선학교 관계자가 일본인 납치에 관여하거나 조선학교 전 교장이 각성제 밀수에 관여한 사건이 있었습니다. 지금 일본 바다에 미사일 발사하는 북한을 찬양하는 학교가 일본에 있는 의미를 이해할 수 없다.
I'm very surprised that Japan hasn't done more to control this community.. It seems dangerous to national security and very uncharacteristic to Japanese culture (where uniformity is a strong value.).
I have two guesses why Joseon school and this commujities'ties to Pyongyang are allowed to continue:
- Japanese national shame about imperial Japan's atrocities in Korea makes it politically difficult to even talk about this community. As you know, this habit of avoiding the shame of the Japanese past is a VERY string part of their culture. They would rather show the world how modern and peaceful they are instead.
- it's also possible that this community is kept as a resource for indirect communications to North Korea, including espionage. Getting just one good spy out of the Joseon school every few years could be worthwhile. I am sure you know how crucial spies have been to get information about what's happening inside North Korea.
in the past , japan ciolonize korea and need atonement
더욱 웃기는건, 대다수의 재일교포들이, 2차대전때 일본으로 강제로 끌려간 사람들과 그들의 후손들이 아니라는 사실.
일본에 강제로 끌려가 막노동하던 조선인들은, 해방 직후 죄다 한국으로 돌아왔고, 또 일제시대 일본에 돈벌러 자발적으로 들어간 조선인들도 많았는데,
이들은 일본에 머물고 싶어했는데도 일본이 강제로 쫒차내던 시절이었씀. 대표적인 예가 이명박 가족. 그러면 재일들은 뭐냐고? 그들 대다수는 해방이후, 일본이 경제가 부흥하니까, 돈벌려고 밀항 밀입국한 사람들. 특히 제주도 출신이 많았고, 김정은 애미가 그 대표적 케이스. 이렇게 제주도에서 사라진 사람들이 또 4.3 사건때 학살당해서 없어졌다고 우기고 있고. 일본에서는 자기들이 해방이전에 일본에 끌려왔다고 거짓말로 우기고 있고. 완전 복마전임.
제주도 에서 4.3 사건이 발생한것도, 제주도에 빨갱이들이 많았기 때문이고, 그들이 일본에가서도 빨갱이짓 하고 조총련에 가입하고, 북송사업때 적극적으로 북조선으로 넘어간거지.
Why were they kidnapping Japanese though? Just random people?
@@Roadent1241日本人から日本語を学んでスパイ育成をしていました。日本人以外にもイタリア人や韓国人も拉致をされました。
This video was interesting. I hope I could hear the person's unclipped interview though
This school only admits students who are Korean or have Korean roots.
Although this school is located in Japan, it intentionally discriminates against non-Korean children and does not allow them to enroll.
I do not understand why a private school, let alone a Japanese school, would seek subsidies from the Japanese government when it does not admit Japanese students.
Ayoooooooo
You got a good point
I'm not entirely certain if translating 朝鮮 (cho-sen) to "Korea" is accurate, as many people in Japan may interpret it as referring specifically to North Korea in this case. I don't see any issues with having Korean schools in Japan; however, it is problematic if these schools teach North Korean national ideology, which goes against Japan's fundamental principles. If these schools are seeking financial support from the Japanese government, it becomes even more important for them to adhere to local systems and laws, similar to American schools in Japan.
Yep. In Chinese 朝鲜 means North Korea too, and 韩国 South Korea.
It is a tricky situation, but if they were teaching korean kids with Japanese textbooks, I’m sure they would gloss over all the war crimes japan committed in Korea and other countries.
While their own books might have their own flavor of propaganda (as every country), being able to show these kids exactly why their ancestors were brought to japan is very important imo.
If Japan doesn’t want to support korean schools, maybe think twice before launching a colonialism campaign full of war crimes 🤡
@@felipechaves6100
I argee KOREAN SHOOL IS FOR KOREAN kids. So they can learn their cultures, their roots, their language.
BUT SHOULD BE PLUS CLASS ONLY. CLASS ABOUT KOREAN LAGUAGE, CLASS OF KOREAN CULTURES & TRADIONAL DANCE!!
But in daily they should HAVE TO LEARN BY JAPAN LANGUAGE. Because theyre born & raise in JAPAN AS THIRD & FOUR GENERATION ALREADY!!
AND THEYRE SURE LIVING HERE, NOT GO BACK TO NORTH KOREA.
Theyre holding JAPAN NATIONAL CARD.
No one say they cant have KOREAN SCHOOL FOR KOREAN KIDS. But their should study & learn by Japan language because it NATION LANGUAGE.
KOREAN CLASS SHOULD BE PLUS CLASS FOR STUDENT.
Example, study by JAPAN LANGUAGE IN MORNING & Korean class in afternoon.
@@felipechaves6100 韓国人は日本に対する残虐行為を、600年続けて来た事を忘れてるみたいですけど、なぜ日本事だけ覚えておかなければいけないんですか？
日本が韓国人による残虐行為を教育し始めたら、日本と韓国の関係がどうなるかあなたは理解できてますか？
@@felipechaves6100
Last, WHAT JAPAN DID TO KOREA IS BADLY WRONG & INHUMANITY.
But this is the wars - who bigger, stronger who win. In the past - humans is still bargains & brutal & uncivilian.
SOUTH KOREAN WAS LAP DOG OF US. Theyre send thoundsand soldiers help US KILL, RAPE, BURN MANY INNOCENT VIETNAM VILLAGERS & Farmers. IT BRUTAL JUST SAME WHAT JAPAN DID TO KOREAN. Now SOUTH KOREA STILL BLOODY HATEFUL JAPAN FOR WHAT JAPAN DID TO KOREAN.
BASE ON THIS, SOUTH KOREA OWM VIETNAMESE PPL TOO, SO EVERY YEARS THEY SHOULD BOW DOWB APOLOGY?? THEY SHOULD TEACH THEIR OWN PPL HOW BAD & Cruetly their older generation did to others ppl too??
IM NOT SAY THIS TO BLAME SOUTH KOREA. I just explain, what did in the past is HISTORY & NO ONE CAN CHANGE IT.
All we need to care is recent & now!!
These ppl is NORTH KOREAN by blood & roots. They have right to learn their language & cultures. But they also need realize theyre livin in JAPAN - Not Norty korea.
As a Japanese, I don't want to take the side of Japan and agree on what we have done to Koreans in general but this time I have to say that this really is a selfish behavior of those, who practise it and believe in this ideology. If they are so much against Japan and want to resist the government, why don't they emigrate to (North) Korea but instead insist on coming back to Japan. Yes I am sorry that they have to experience such hardship and obstacles in their every day life but they brought a major part of it by themselfs by staying in the country/not adopting the local rules.
Coming back? Babe. You realize they are desendends of slave laborers brought over by Japanese slavors? If you really were well informed you would know most Zainichi are not part of this group and instead live as a Japanese person.
As a complete and utter outsider, I agree. If they aren't happy with Japan's government, but they do like North Korean government/leaders, they should go there instead of Japan. Its a logical conclusion from reasoning.
Action speak louder then word, they prefer japan more then korea.
Do you agree though that they’re not adopting the local rules and customs bc they are already persecuted and isolated by the majority population?
Yeah, they like North Korea? Live there! You are right.
Great video
Weird that we mostly see musical education throughout the video. I'd love to know the weekly schedule of one class.
I admire Eiko Kawasaki for what she has gone through and suing the North Korean government.
I think it's pretty ridiculous to ask for funding and not give in to their demands. Negotiation is a give and take thing. You can't be demanding everything and expecting the other party give in to your every demand. I think it is a good compromise to funding given if what they want is to teach extra "Korean" curricular on top of the regular curriculum of Japanese schools. Then they should be given all right to funding. However what they are asking for is funding for a curriculum not approved and they are unwilling to even bulge.
THIS. They could just make extra classes about North Korea
Tokyo really should deport all of them back to North Korea.
I'm Japanese and I agree with your suggestion.
If it is based on the Japanese curriculum, I have no complaints.
if Japan would give in to their demands, they might praise the Kims for their success..
You don't get the gist of the problem here. If it was just the matter of teaching North Korean propaganda or not, I'd agree with you. However, Japan denies its colonial crimes and teaches a version of history that is 'convenient' for them. So when the Japanese government is demanding that the school conform to Japanese curriculum, it is basically saying that the school teach their version of history, the one that covers up how atrocious Japanese colonization was. That is not a possible compromisation to any Korean.
差別を論じる前に自分のことを客観的に考えてほしい
Thank you for your documentary. I am a graduate of Korean School in Kobe. Now I am supporting for the activity of Ms. Eiko Kawasaki. Korean Schools should be changed for the 4th, 5th generation children.
Jesus the argument of these activists is basically "yeah I kicked the cat but Japan kicked the dog so it doesn't matter that I kicked the cat". This shit doesn't work with someone that understands basic logic.
morally, it would be incorrect, but logically it would make sense
@@aguy5170 No, it's not logically correct because one thing doesn't cancel the other.
@@aguy5170 It's a tu quoque logical fallacy
@@golDroger88 By your logic, Gary Plauché’s should have spent years in jail for pre-meditated murder. Unfortunately for you he was only sentenced for just a weekend.
@@rdxzero That's a completely different situation. None of the people responsible for whatever violence Korea or Japan did to each other are alive.
All you have today is activists gaslighting each other.
My korean-japanese friends have gotten into fights with north korean students before... they told me how aggressive the north korean kids are. My friends retain a strong and deep connection to their korean heritage and adapts seamlessly with japanese culture as well. They can go anywhere in the world and make friends and thrive. I personally think that's a great gift to have (being able to bond with other people and other culture)
To be fair, that can be a sign of trauma as well. Not supporting NK, just adding some context to aggressive behavior.
The Japanese earnestly desire that all Koreans in Japan return to the Korean peninsula.
@@azurecliff8709 hmm... I'm sure fine with North Koreans living here :D
I'm even fine with their extremist ideals-- if they don't cause a ruckus about it!
Just b chill and we can all live together eh?
한국어 자막이 있으면 좋겠네요 ㅠㅠㅠ혹시 한글로 간단하게라도 요약해주실 분 있을까요?
It's crazy, I'm not a full Japanese speaker (I'm learning, but nowhere near fluent) but I could hear their heavy Japanese accents as they spoke Korean
They're Japanese, Korean isn't they primary language. Zainichi Korean means originating from Korea before the split.
なんで日本に住むの？
単純に気になるだけ
住むのが大変なら北に帰ればいい話だし、、、
辛い思いしてまで日本に住むことないと思うよ？
それは日本人なら誰でも抱く素朴な疑問。이것은 일본인이면 누구든지 품는 소박한 의문.
ほんとにそれ〜、日本を乗っ取ろうとしてるのかもねはは
I am Indian. I respect Japan.
@@user-vf7cn3oy8g We have to fight the Communism.
スパイとか密輸とかするのに必要なんじゃない？
Irony is they probably don’t want to live in N Korea.
Between 2006 and 2016 I spent a lot of time in Japan, and when I was in Tokyo I'd often go to 'Koreatown' - Shin Okubo - to get K-Pop merch for my niece. Always a nice friendly place to wander around. It was where I discovered that South Korea isn't just dominant in music in East Asia, but in make-up and fashion too! And drama (soap operas) - you can discover that on the TV any night.
In all that time, I never realised there was a North Korean community! People I knew were open about hating China and the Chinese, but they were not so open about their feeling for Koreans.
just curious as to why they don't want to move back to Korea if they are so emotionally attached to it ?
ikr! Japan isn't stopping Koreans from going back lol
Japan is pretty comfortable though... I can tell
Same reason as to why you see a patriotic Turkish dude in Germany.
Living in Germany is way better than if you live in Turkey itself. While still being proud of your ancestry.
But in our case here, Korea was split into 2.
This is the part where delusional comes into place.
It's really hard to explain since I'm not really good at explaining but I'll explain as best as I can.
There are so many ways that this can go, one that I can confidently say that I agree with is when you're proud of your ancestry. Sometimes you want to be a little bit different. Different than the others.
Notice how these Koreans find the violation of human rights in north Korea "justified"?
Like, in their eyes. While you're looking at the dark side of north Korea, why don't you look at the bright side of it?
But the thing is with this pov, south korea is a successful country with their human rights being protected while still being ethnically pure Korean. Why don't they just choose to be this type of Korean, the hanguk?
Most of the "Choson" in japan are delusional Koreans who think that North Korea deserves more than what they got. And of course, not all Koreans in Japan believe in North Korea agendas. It's only a minority.
動画の趣旨と外れるけれど韓国語・朝鮮語をあとから学んだ人のように、イントネーションが日本語に準じているところが興味深い
学校の韓国語の先生に在日の方が数名いましたが、かなりカタカナ発音でしたよ。イントネーションも関西弁でした。
@@ajiken123韓国のアクセントにならないように、わざと日本風にしてたりしないのかな？
@@user-im1lf9ss8k 朝鮮学校や日本の在日社会で子供の頃から日本式アクセントに染まってしまってるので、ちゃんとした韓国語の発音しようとしてもできないそうです
本題と全く関係ないけど、学校で先生が授業してる時の言葉が関西弁のイントネーションにしか聞こえんかった。
よく聞いたら日本語じゃなくてびっくりしたわ。
そんなとこまで関西訛り強くなるんか…
あと右派のおっちゃんも輩みたいでなかなか怖かったけど、ユンギさん達の考えもある種怖い。
差別と思われたくないけど、祖国が北朝鮮であることに誇りを持って、北朝鮮の方が温かいというならそっちに住めば良いと思うわ。
日本で高校の無償化なんて訴えてないでさ。
無理して住みづらい日本に住むことなんてないのに。
めちゃくちゃ利己的やん。
08:00 - A Chongryon schoolgirl, born in Japan from a family that most likely has generationally been born and lived in Japan and benefitted from a Japanese society/infrastructure - identifies HER country as 'North Korea'. It would be interesting to know what are her loyalties to Japan?
It just seems if you love North Korea, and support the regime, live there. Why stay in Japan?
일본의 안정되고 안락한 생활은 즐기고 싶은데 북한의 사상을 찬양하는 모순 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그리고 설령 한민족에 대한 염원이 있다면 남한으로 망명하거나 하면 될 일….정 북한을 따르고 싶으면 북한 가서 살아야 하지 않나?? 이것도 아니고 저것도 아니고 일본 입장에선 싫어하는게 너무나 당연함
더욱 웃기는건, 대다수의 재일교포들이, 2차대전때 일본으로 강제로 끌려간 사람들과 그들의 후손들이 아니라는 사실.
일본에 강제로 끌려가 막노동하던 조선인들은, 해방 직후 죄다 한국으로 돌아왔고, 또 일제시대 일본에 돈벌러 자발적으로 들어간 조선인들도 많았는데,
이들은 일본에 머물고 싶어했는데도 일본이 강제로 쫒차내던 시절이었씀. 대표적인 예가 이명박 가족. 그러면 재일들은 뭐냐고? 그들 대다수는 해방이후, 일본이 경제가 부흥하니까, 돈벌려고 밀항 밀입국한 사람들. 특히 제주도 출신이 많았고, 김정은 애미가 그 대표적 케이스. 이렇게 제주도에서 사라진 사람들이 또 4.3 사건때 학살당해서 없어졌다고 우기고 있고. 일본에서는 자기들이 해방이전에 일본에 끌려왔다고 거짓말로 우기고 있고. 완전 복마전임.
제주도 에서 4.3 사건이 발생한것도, 제주도에 빨갱이들이 많았기 때문이고, 그들이 일본에가서도 빨갱이짓 하고 조총련에 가입하고, 북송사업때 적극적으로 북조선으로 넘어간거지.
As a Korean living in South Korea, I don't support Korean school in Japan worshipping the worst dictator North Korean regime. I don't feel any connection to them even though they speak the same language.
it baffles me how they associate with the North instead of the South..
Interesting do you feel the same about North Korean defectors do you feel a connection to them?
@@stevenbaksh5545I ain’t her but North Korean defectors risked their lives to go South. If they leave their propaganda behind, they are South Koreans.
@@stevenbaksh5545 Korean society does not accept those idiots worshiping North Korean leaders.( some 'leftists' in South Korea think highly of the North Korean leaders and defend the North Korean regime, but not many.) Japan is more tolerant of them than South Korea. If someone teaches such a curriculum in Korea, he will face criminal charges for violating the National Security Law. North Korean defectors are generally against North Korean regime, so South Korean society generally embraces them well.
@@limmyk4943 not defending these people but north Korea and south Korea are very culturally different at this point. north koreans and south koreans are practically different people in all but blood in every aspect. they are physically different, they have different dialect, they have different thinking. south koreans and north koreans no longer feel connected to one another, and the gap is only growing. most young south koreans these days don't care about reunification.
Wild
wow, very interesting
17:00この女性の話すことが本当なら今すぐに北朝鮮に住めばいいのに。その暖かくていい人達に囲まれながら生きていくのが幸せなんだと思うよ。
差別されながら嫌いな日本に住み続ける必要なんて😊無いよ。
@@user-pu3yq3gj2p im pretty sure she was being sarcastic
こう言うのを洗脳と言うんですよね
何人もの脱北者が韓国や日本や世界中に居て人権侵害を訴えてるのにそのことに目を向けない
そんなに良いなら移住でもしたら？と草生えますよww
netouyo...
Its very cool to learn about part of japan i didnt know almost anything about. Once in Kyoto i met member of Yakuza in onsen and had plenty of talk. He wasn't first Yakzuza i met, but surely was the most amazing one. He actually told me alot about current (at the time, it was some years ago) state of Yakuza and all, but he also told me that his family is from Korea and they moved during Korean wars but he said he hated japan at first but then started to love it. It was really interesting and i wish i had a chance to ask him more about it
wow living for 15 years in Japan never met yakuza, did he tell you he was yakuza? I'm very interested.
@@user-ln4pe4lg7o i must say it was quite few years back so i dont remember exactly how the conversation went.. but when i went to outside baths, either he was there alone or i was first one and he came in soon after me but it was obvious just by looking at him he was yakuza. He had this yanki look to him and obviously tattoos from feet up to his neck. At first we didnt talk... rather obviously too :P, he may have said something to me and i have responded? (I dont remember if he assumed i speak japanese and we just went off or if once i responded he knew and then we got to talk) but we started talking, bit funny because we were talking about me being in japan and about yakuza and all, and then random japanese young guy came (i think he said he was 21? The second he entered, he saw the yakuza guy, he started walking out and yakuza guy told him that its find to stay, soon we had convo all 3. I kinda felt bad for the other guy because he asked him where he works and what he does and started comparing him to me. That despite my age im so far from home, speaking language and all, and that the other guy should work harder :P
Thet he was super nice saying he is thankful that people like me are coming to Japan, actually learning the culture, being interested in it and protecting it too, sonething that more and more 'youngsters' dont care about.
We talked about visa problems too
Also he joked (i assume :P) that if i ever have any problem in japan to just come over and ask his family (yakuza) for help :D
Racism in any country should be stopped people educated.
The North Korean children born in Japan are wearing rose tinted glasses. If it’s so wonderful in North Korea why haven’t the moved there.
すごい。この情報にまみれた世界であり得ないこと洗脳されちゃってんの。
I was born in post war outskirts of Tokyo in 1947. Yes I did witness some Korean people
being discriminated around me as there were quite a bit of animosities between Japanese and Korean adults in the community where I lived.
I felt very conflicted and confused in the situations like that since I had no problem mingling with their Korean children and my mother says anything disparaging or
discriminating of Korean people.
However It was obvious they were separated from ordinary Japanese community by where
they'd set up their house /shacks. Inside the river dikes near the river where it could be
flooded and washed away if there was a storm or flush flood not that it happened a lot
but even 8 or so year old I could tell it was not an ideal place for a house hold.
My dearest friend was 2 years older than me and he was very kind and helped me cope with
bullies since I was small.
A few years later he said his family is going back to (North ) Korea. He was 15 years old I was really crushed that my best friend whom I considered more of my brother than the real
ones. But kids don't make the decisions so up he went with his family.
Only later i found out they chose to go back to North since they had relative there.
some years past and I started reading /hearing about what happened to returnees like my
friend's family. How they are discriminated once they went back HOME that they are spies
or spoilers of western corruptions etc. etc.
I was crushed the second time thinking how terrible it must have been to my friend and his family after all that.
Jump to now, I'm an expat living in the US and removed from today's situations of North Korean and Japanese relations as clearly as someone living in Japan.
However After watching this documentary I'd like for Japanese government to send these
Korean school students to live in home stay programs in North Korea even for 2-3 wks
to see reality is different from rose color tinted North Korean government propaganda
situations. I'm certain that the citizens there for the most part are wonderful kind hearted
people as long as they could get hold of the essentials and food. Then we should ask them
what they really think when they come back to safe haven of Japan.
Brain washing can be done anywhere very easily as long as this double standard schooling
systems are allowed to continue.
That's the peril of democratic governments that touts freedom of ideas/expressions and
associations. It's a double edge sward politically.
The issue is that anyone sent to Korea as part of a "homestay" program is neither guaranteed to return, nor guaranteed to get a picture of reality.
The sanctions have everything to do with North Korea's suffering. The same with Cuba, and many other countries the USA has invaded. What would happen if Korea had united and remained as one country? It would be a very prosperous country just like Vietnam, a peaceful prosperous communist/ socialists country
@@deidradahl2802 Why not ask the South Korean people whether they want to be reunited with the North? It's not guaranteed that a united korea under north korea would be prosperous.
@@deidradahl2802 The sanctions were put in place because your peaceful NK started developing nukes. Before there weren't such sanctions. SK also tried to establish free-trading zones on the border but they were shut down by NK.
Also remember that NK has dozens of concentration camps were ~150-200k political prisoners are being tortured, exploited, violated and killed, children of course included.
Nobody but their socialist ideology is to blame for this.
They took inspirations from their other socialist brethren like the SU and PRC.
@@faxmachine5306 After the war, if there was no interference from all sides they would have been united and be as prosperous as Vietnam. Now it's too late, difference in culture etc., '''Too much water under the bridge''
학교에 김씨 일가 사진 걸려있는거 역겹네! 북한이 그렇게 좋으면 북한으로 돌아가라 일본에서 안정되고 부유한 생활을 즐기면서 가난한 북한을 찬양하는게 정말 이해가 안되고 혐오스럽다
@𝐊𝐢𝐦 𝐉𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐔𝐧 Bro think he funny 😹😹
Throw them back to north korea!!!
その通りです
Exactly!間違いない☝️
더욱 웃기는건, 대다수의 재일교포들이, 2차대전때 일본으로 강제로 끌려간 사람들과 그들의 후손들이 아니라는 사실.
일본에 강제로 끌려가 막노동하던 조선인들은, 해방 직후 죄다 한국으로 돌아왔고, 또 일제시대 일본에 돈벌러 자발적으로 들어간 조선인들도 많았는데,
이들은 일본에 머물고 싶어했는데도 일본이 강제로 쫒차내던 시절이었씀. 대표적인 예가 이명박 가족. 그러면 재일들은 뭐냐고? 그들 대다수는 해방이후, 일본이 경제가 부흥하니까, 돈벌려고 밀항 밀입국한 사람들. 특히 제주도 출신이 많았고, 김정은 애미가 그 대표적 케이스. 이렇게 제주도에서 사라진 사람들이 또 4.3 사건때 학살당해서 없어졌다고 우기고 있고. 일본에서는 자기들이 해방이전에 일본에 끌려왔다고 거짓말로 우기고 있고. 완전 복마전임.
제주도 에서 4.3 사건이 발생한것도, 제주도에 빨갱이들이 많았기 때문이고, 그들이 일본에가서도 빨갱이짓 하고 조총련에 가입하고, 북송사업때 적극적으로 북조선으로 넘어간거지.
Bizarre and incredible
I remember watching a really fun Japanese movie twenty years ago called Go (2001, Isao Yukisada directed). I attempted to read the novel it was based on but I wasn't fluent enough for it to have an impact on me. I don't want to comment on this subject or video specifically, just want to share a fun piece of media for those interested in Japanese films addressing this topic.
I normally watch history and politics related content on youtube and click this video because it popped up on my recommended list. This whole video got me speechless from the North Korea school to the school being in Japan to some of the Koreans in this video are more from the South but aligns with the North more. I don't know what's happening at all. I have to go back to watch the video from start to finish just to wrap my head around. I'm actually flabbergasted right now.
This is what a spy farm looks like.
Hopefully, there will be a discussion between the ladies, the one who returned after 40 years and the one who just went back and forth between Japan and North Korea. In one frame not separated... Just curious about the collaboration thought.
Lots of people answering questions with questions.
What's wrong with curiosity? It's best to try and understand, yes?
Something that's important to note is that there's also a South Korean aligned group called Mindan 民団 which also operates its own schools, and are recognised as private schools by the government. The Chongryon ones are classified as "miscellaneous schools" probably due to their curriculum. From what I can tell the difference between these is the amount of subsidies granted by the government and private schools get more. (If I'm wrong please correct me).
So I don't know if the government's actions reducing subsidies are ethnic discrimination, it has to do with the Chongryon schools having a pro-North Korean curriculum. Obviously, Zainichi Koreans get ethnically discrimiated in Japan but I don't think this is an example of that.
This is true but most people who watched the video are just reactionaries who think all Zainichi are affiliated with North Korea. When in fact most are indistinguishable from a Japanese person today.
Right
일본정부는 절대 바보가 아니다. 미국 딥스테이트들이 지시한것이다. 일본이 동북아에서 한반도(북한,남한)에 심리적으로 정신적으로 갈수 없게끔. 즉 혐오하게끔 만든다. 일본인으로서는 당연히 이것을 혐오할수밖에 없다. 그리고 한국정부도 똑같다. 한국 민주당의 반일조장운동. 모두 미국의 딥스테이트들의 계획. 그리고 한국과 일본의 고위급 임원들은 모두 이것을 잘 알고있고, 순응하고있다. 순수하고 순진한 한국국민들과 일본국민들만 모른다.
金正恩への個人崇拝がアウト、カルト教団の学校とかも同じ理由で認められてない。学校関係者にスパイがいたりもしたし
I assume this would show both, a comparison of the mindsets would be intriguing.
Thank you for this coverage.
6:56 Is there anyone who knows the tittle of this song, please?
Japanese rule in both Koreas came to an end after World War II and all those responsible are no longer living. The North Koreans living in Japan seem to be hell bent on keeping this hate alive which is extremely disturbing. If I was Japanese I would feel very uneasy about having schools in my country which were clearly sympathetic towards a country with the most brutal regime in the world. The Japanese lady who escaped from North Korea should speak to the students at these North Korean schools about the terrible experience she had. However they would probably say she was just quoting capitalist propaganda. If they think that North Korea is so fantastic then maybe they should go and live there.
"If they think that North Korea is so fantastic then maybe they should go and live there." Yeah I'm sure the ultra strict border rules surrounding the North Korean DMZ would allow them to just waltz in unharmed especially after SK soldiers firing on them for afar.... lol
Not to mention this has been their home for decades and they wouldn't like to see their forefathers' birthplace slandered by Japanese propaganda. Use your mind for once lol
I feel like their will also be resentment towards Japanese and Germans in their respected continents because of all of the horrendous war crimes committed during WWII
As an Eritrean, i understand them when they talk about their loyalty to their country. when they talk about how North Korea is just misunderstood, I am reminded of my own country, where many of the population in the larger cities think the same. Eritrea is similar in that you need travel visas to travel between cities, so mobility is limited, but you can freely see anything once the visa is granted, which is how I was disillusioned very quickly. I think their entire situation is sad and unfortunate. People underestimate how strong the need for belonging is.
As a Chinese-Canadian who constantly sees all of the BS about China in western media, I am 100% confident NK, Russia etc are all severely misunderstood because all we have access to are biased info from parties who are motivated to demonize these countries for their own selfish gain.
I really appreciate your contribution. They've been told for so long that North Korea is where they belong, so when they go, they're looking so hard for proof that it is, and because they can't move freely or live there for a longer period of time, they aren't confronted with the harsher realities of the country.
They can appreciate the North Korean culture but don’t worship a dictator and don’t spread propaganda
@lovendor But that's the point. These people were not born in Korea. They were born in Japan. They are Japanese people with an ancestry which is Korean. It's a huge difference.
@@kahnadah being born on land in between arbitrarily drawn lines in the sand by people long dead doesn't make you identify with anything the majority of the other people on that land does.
As a Japanese, i feel l a little bit scared to see such a school really existing near our houses. They tend to complain about being abused or being faced with racism but for me we seem too generous… for those who really want to fit with our cultures, we can offer the same thing as we do to Japanese but if they don’t, there’s no need to support them isn’t it?
Tokyo is being way too generous. These North Koreans can be a great danger to Japanese citizens. The North Korean government hates Japanese, and they will teach North Korean children to kill Japanese. SMH
You are right to feel the way that you do.
I'm not attacking, I'm just curious, I promise. stories like this made me give up from studying international relationships because I couldn't deal with the pain from empathy. I'm asking this as a gaijin who is trying to understand. how Japan could improve their quality of life and what they can do to make them being accepted by Japanese society? I was thinking a lot about, I'm sorry to say like that, the imperial who invaded Korea, and the horror made by those people from the past, and the interviewer saying they want a place to call home. how can both countries make peace? I've seen some South Korean opinions but I've never been answered by a Japanese. i would be really thankful if you could give me an insight about this issue.
@@kamiiwave thank u for replying. I’m not specialized in this area but that’s my answer to you. I’d be grateful if it’d be helpful for your future study. First of all, I wanna make it clear that those schools are for North Korea ppl in Japan not for South Korea ppl. And what they’ve been taught there was almost a part of propaganda which contradicts facts and history. Also what North Korea have been doing against us are really scary ofc unacceptable. Nonetheless we support those schools financially so we don’t like those schools and their attitudes. If they should choose ordinary schools and be educated as well as other Japanese to fit in our society, we’d be more open to accepting them as well as other immigrants.
@@Y-pk6kiWhat does North Korea do for Korea? I live in Brazil on the other side of the world, I don't understand

이해할 수 없는 것 두 가지
1 어떻게 일본에 살면서 저렇게 세뇌될 수가 있지?
2. 일본 정부는 저걸 왜 허가해준거?
I cannot complain because my ancestors killed their ancestors.
1. 일본애들이랑 어울리지 못하고 소외당하니까 반발심 + 가보지 않은 고향에 대한 막연한 애정?
2. 일본 현행법상 딱히 범법적인 요소가 없으니까?
can anyone tell me ,what the name of the outro music is pls?
15:39
I am Japanese and attended a Japanese public primary school, a private junior and senior high school and a national university.
In my Japanese history class, I learnt that Koreans were massacred in the Great Kanto Earthquake of 1923.
If she was told by her friends that there was no massacre, it was simply the illiteracy of her friends.
In the past, there was an entrance exam question at a Japanese national university that could only be answered correctly if the student knew that Koreans were massacred in the Great Kanto Earthquake.
My point is that most Japanese people do not deny the crimes committed by the Japanese in the past.
Regarding the massacre of Koreans during the Great Kanto Earthquake, there are differences in the perception of the number of people massacred, but the fact that there was a massacre is accurate history and is written in the textbooks used in Japanese public schools.
The Japanese Government has never tried to hide it.
Rather, it actively teaches children, at least in Japanese public schools, that this event is a typical example of how, in times of sudden and extreme social turmoil such as earthquakes, false rumours that never happened are spread and, at worst, cause casualties.
Theres a lot of other instances of Koreans being massacred by the Japs
@lisamo lala
It is not so.
My point is that most Japanese people do not deny the crimes committed by the Japanese in the past. Regarding the massacre of Koreans during the Great Kanto Earthquake, there are differences in the perception of the number of people massacred, but the fact that there was a massacre is accurate history and is written in the textbooks used in Japanese public schools. The Japanese Government has never tried to hide it. Rather, it actively teaches children, at least in Japanese public schools, that this event is a typical example of how, in times of sudden and extreme social turmoil such as earthquakes, false rumours that never happened are spread and, at worst, cause casualties.
On to the Nanjing Massacre and the exploits of Unit 731 then…
What about Nanjing? Are you guys taught about that or not?
日本の教科書見ずに日本の歴史教育が〜と批判してるの本当に滑稽
日本人は普通に中高通して関東大震災後の朝鮮人虐殺も南京大虐殺についても授業で教えられてるし、文字通り教科書見ればちゃんと書いてあるし
More stories of people like Kawasaki Eiko need to be told, like What happened to them after they were deceived to North Korea and what took them to escape from there.
Agree! She's the one to be highlighted here. Not those idealistic and brainwashed kids who have no idea what North Korea is truly like.
Why can they just go back to North Korea
I really liked how you just show all the sides and takes about the struggle. A real delicate situation where government abuses made the lives of people harder for generations.
I hope people can live in peace being who they are.
There’s a NK school in my area. Every so often I’ll see their school bus and smile and wave at the students. Children deserve kindness no matter where they are from.
Aiko Kawasaki is a real-non-embellished story of someone who escaped North Korea. We should all be listening to her instead of Yeonmi Park.
가와사키쌍도 박연미씨도 제３국에 사는 Korean。가와사키쌍같은 경우에는 일본에 귀화하시고 북한 민주화를 위하여 힘쓰고 계십니다.
@@user-vf7cn3oy8g Yeah, but Yeonmi Park is someone who tells many heavily embellished and easily disproven versions of her story with every appearance she makes. So the point of my statement is that she (Yeonmi Park) is untrustworthy and a bad representative of North Korean defectors.
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It's just life. Here in the U.S. some people from the South still cling to the past during the Civil War, which took place over 150 years ago. They still fly the Confederate (southern) flag and even have statues dedicated to their war heroes. They claim it's part of their history and heritage while others see it as a dark side of American history. To each his own. Something you can't do in North Korea. Remember that.