So glad they decided to give Ryoji link episodes too. Between the movies and him saying he'd love the protagonist whether they were a guy or a girl, I was worried Atlus wouldn't be able to keep that same energy in Reload. But here he is. Flirting with Waffles.
Hm. I think this game is much better at showing the impact of plot events on the characters in the aftermath than it is at constructing plot events. I thought this same thing while playing but the scene w/Yukari & Mitsuru reminded me.
When I did my donation at the end of the video I only had 15 minutes of vod left to edit, but random copyright claims got in the way and delayed things 2 hours 😔
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@TherionX2.Proof that Persona fans never played the first two games. My favourite Adult Persona User is Zenkichi. For his neutral special he pulls out TWO guns
My brother has been reading through the manga while I've decided to digest it alongside the streams, and he's told me it's been pure peak until chapter 7. I'm excited to watch
@frankomancer Just a heads up the manga is significantly worse and destroys what Umineko stands for Ryukishi07 made it as a result of Japanese VN readers calling him a fraud as an author (they couldn't think for themselves) Reading along with Joseph is in fact the play 😇
@@rannel7644 I completely disagree. I see the value in the way the VN did things, but the majority of readers won't have everything figured out by the end. I prefer the manga-it feels like a huge payoff after 7.5 episodes of hints. But I understand why you would prefer the VN
@@hassassinator8858 admittedly to get the full picture you'd have to pay close attention, take notes, be gifted or reread the VN the manga skipped over a lot that fleshes out the characters tho especially characters like Eva and Maria Without getting into spoilers the manga is not "it"
I love that Joe is slowly coming to the same concensus as the weebs for this game. At the start he was like Why tf would anybody not like this remake. I think after experiencing those last few bits of plot he's finally starting to understand 😂
I really hope and wish he watches the fes recordings one day cuz they are much funnier than reload's. these ones leave me with a blank expression, I think akihiko's is still great but also it's way inferior without him slamming the magazine
I still think P3’s story is better than 4, but not even close to 5. 4 is good as a slice of life since it depicts the ideal good teenage years (without drugs and alcohol cuz japan), but man the murder mystery and the fog are so dumb. And then there’s Teddie. I’d take a hundred chairmen and Morganas over Teddie.
Maybe it's the dialogue, or maybe it's the voice direction, but every time I hear Chidori speak I cringe. Her VA here is much better than the grandma one in FES though.
Probably the voice direction of the English cast, the Japanese dub seems to fit her better, it's hard to explain, I have the same reaction as you watching the stream in the English version but not when playing the game on Japanese version.
Okay the Chidori fight feels sadder in this since he didn't even get much damage on her & she fell apart on her own since she was _already_ falling apart
Interesting start with that talk about vegan and creatine, from some easy to find papers it looks like there is high uncertainty about papers which say it is better for vegans than others but I didnt think that vegans have lower levels because of their diet so this is actually educational
Louis Gjallarhorn being budget Sephiroth with the exact same "my existence is tragic therefore the world should perish" trope was probably the worst about that game. Otherwise I mostly enjoyed the story and I don't remember anything close to the lows of Persona storytelling like pancakes, gas station workers or crucifixes happening in Metaphor. I assume he'd enjoy SMTVV though. My favorite Atlus titles are probably SMT4 and Strange Journey but I don't see Joe ever touching a Nintendo DS game.
@pabloezcurlbar7253 Funny enough, Louis It's the best thing that game has in my opinion I think It's in the middle of the story when start to fall off, and the end it's just a hit or miss most of the time
Ken mentioned the others in the dorm talk about the MC all the time, yet this is the first persona MC i feel that doesn't have any charisma. P5 had a kinda cheeky, cocky thing going on and P4 had a very blunt silent thing imo. edit: i didn't feel any connection between junpei and chidori at ALL.
This was about the time in the game I really checked out and I dropped it not long after. So many things that are just so silly or undermine themselves. I really don’t buy the Chidori drama at all because she’s barely in the game. Junpei sees her randomly in public three times where she barely engaged with him and suddenly he’s obsessed with her and she loves him. It’s a game that takes place over months, he really should have seen her so much more so I can actually buy their connection. And my god the Strega guy with the gun is just so stupid. In a game of gods and monsters they lean on the villain just being a dude whipping out a gun not once but twice. We have fought tanks and demon knights and all manner of monster but look out this guy has a GUN. I was able to deal with it the first time but doing it again was just too much.
as i think og 3 is alot better than reload (tho reload still is the definitive way to play 3), joes playthru of this made me once again realise why i love 4 and 5 and not 3, idk man 3 is just so forgettable to me. its an amazing game but imo its overrated to hell and back with its story and characters (with a very few exceptions), and reloads gameplay just feels like a cheap version of 5. ill give credit where its due as 3 may have a cliche yet pretty cool theme of life and death, it definitely would inspire some people experiencing depression or smth, but as a game its pretty overhyped tbh. (sorry for the unfocused yap)
Honestly P4 and P5 have similar issues all of the SMT and Persona games do Like I'm reminded of how Ann's Arc starts out with her being Sexually Black Mailed by Kamoshida If Joker didn't follow her she would have been graped but people's take away is Shiho jumping being the only fd up part Which the story never addresses properly and Ann continues to be objectified through the story and gameplay removing the whole "Own her own sexuality theme"
Closest comparison would probably be that he didn't use Junpei for a long time as soon as he was able to drop him, but Junpei still grew on him fairly quickly
7:40 this reallly sums up my experience with persona and even though its only been 3 years since i llayed FES i do think its the weakest of the modern 3
Can i just say i feel like joe was infantilizing us a bit? "If you saw this 14 years ago when you were a kid and it was great then i dont want to get rid of that, but this sucks", ehhh i literally saw all p3r again when it came out and i still think that its story is fine, its just joe has a way higher intolerance to bad writing.
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he literally said "when you were a kid" and you ask if he was infantilizing you. my brother in weeb his comment was towards people who played and grew up with the game as a kid
To be fair, that's just the recurring sub message he kept getting throughout the playthrough ("I remember playing this as a teen and it was my favorite game..." etc). It seems to be a decently common experience in chat, I don't think the intent was to infantilize, even if it ended up coming across that way.
The story is still fine but I kinda feel like some moments were handled better in the Original, like the Ultimate Persona awakenings not cutting to a black void and instead just appearing over the users heads. I think that except for Fuuka being a vast improvement the main cast is just kinda...mediocre this time. It might also be a bit harder to take Persona seriously after the other two games are laden with almost the exact same tropes.
Joe has opinions, it's just whether you agree with them or not. I think a lot of them are fair, but some of them are just him fucking with the chat or him misunderstanding what's going on which is fine. I'm interested in hearing his thoughts on the game when he finishes it, the last third slaps and I hope he enjoys it.
The balls on the chatter who said “pre-played” as if every person who played this game didn’t know Ryoji is Pharos 2 seconds after looking at him.
I didn't :) (im dumb)
They have the same voice
I'm dumb
So glad they decided to give Ryoji link episodes too. Between the movies and him saying he'd love the protagonist whether they were a guy or a girl, I was worried Atlus wouldn't be able to keep that same energy in Reload. But here he is. Flirting with Waffles.
We're nodja guys, of course we recycle bits from other canadian streamer highlights channels comment sections
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These highlights are coming out so fast! thank you nodja :)
1:25:22 "WHAT ARE THESE, BOOKS?" Made me laugh an unreasonable amount
Hm. I think this game is much better at showing the impact of plot events on the characters in the aftermath than it is at constructing plot events. I thought this same thing while playing but the scene w/Yukari & Mitsuru reminded me.
keisuke just having a kill aura active at all moments is one of the funniest bits to come out of this
persona 3 spoilers
aigis got the wrong guy she actually trapped Death inside keisuke
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THE ACTUAL WHIPLASH SOCIAL LINK AT THE END, HOLY SHI-
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This is because time has been extremely distorted since July 7th, 2022. Three years ago, a massive shift in time happened, with it accelerating at an alarming pace. Please, do keep this in mind before you start a bakery, because the bread will go bad!
Thank you
Edible Joe is that you?
I take pride in knowing the Forspoken DLC has a stream chance now
“Did I just do that?”
@@Lord_Sunqu would you believe me if I told you she does it a third time in the DLC
"please don't float up in the sky" 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
1:22:07 imagine a persona game but all the persona pals are teachers
A personal Fans worst nightmare, because all the characters are adults now
@TherionX2.Proof that Persona fans never played the first two games. My favourite Adult Persona User is Zenkichi. For his neutral special he pulls out TWO guns
Umineko can't come soon enough, he's gonna absolutely fall in love with what's coming up next stream.
My brother has been reading through the manga while I've decided to digest it alongside the streams, and he's told me it's been pure peak until chapter 7. I'm excited to watch
@frankomancer Just a heads up the manga is significantly worse and destroys what Umineko stands for Ryukishi07 made it as a result of Japanese VN readers calling him a fraud as an author (they couldn't think for themselves)
Reading along with Joseph is in fact the play 😇
@@rannel7644 I completely disagree. I see the value in the way the VN did things, but the majority of readers won't have everything figured out by the end. I prefer the manga-it feels like a huge payoff after 7.5 episodes of hints. But I understand why you would prefer the VN
@@hassassinator8858 admittedly to get the full picture you'd have to pay close attention, take notes, be gifted or reread the VN
the manga skipped over a lot that fleshes out the characters tho especially characters like Eva and Maria
Without getting into spoilers the manga is not "it"
@rannel7644 Should somebody tell Joe to try figuring out the mysteries on his own later? Lol
I'm washed
So are my nuts
Another day, another banger from J Andy and Nodja
Wish Joe would talk about working out more, he never mentions it
Joe is secretly a gigachad??
did not expect the character arc of him coming to understand why people don't like this remake. well played writers
3:25:00 collapsening(kinda)
bro he can’t catch a break!!
1:26:54 "And then I dropped everything I was holding..."
Oh no, Yukaribros. We might actually get competition now that Mitsuru got her S. Link
I love that Joe is slowly coming to the same concensus as the weebs for this game.
At the start he was like
Why tf would anybody not like this remake.
I think after experiencing those last few bits of plot he's finally starting to understand 😂
8:16 please PLEASE let’s ask Joe to watch the FES version of this recording! He needs to know about the kawakami resemblance
I really hope and wish he watches the fes recordings one day cuz they are much funnier than reload's. these ones leave me with a blank expression, I think akihiko's is still great but also it's way inferior without him slamming the magazine
I still think P3’s story is better than 4, but not even close to 5.
4 is good as a slice of life since it depicts the ideal good teenage years (without drugs and alcohol cuz japan), but man the murder mystery and the fog are so dumb.
And then there’s Teddie.
I’d take a hundred chairmen and Morganas over Teddie.
This is just how I feel. I can’t believe ppl rate 4 and 3 over five.
@@マリー-v4pI put 4 over 5 since it strikes a good balance between insanity and grounded story. Persona POO is the best game though
@@archerymidnight3422 I have a p-
Maybe it's the dialogue, or maybe it's the voice direction, but every time I hear Chidori speak I cringe. Her VA here is much better than the grandma one in FES though.
Probably the voice direction of the English cast, the Japanese dub seems to fit her better, it's hard to explain, I have the same reaction as you watching the stream in the English version but not when playing the game on Japanese version.
HE LOVES METAPHOR
Damn, the ending of that stream actually kinda got me good. Legit some tears. man...
3:55:02 I can’t believe they made Yusuke like 5x times
We're Joe fans of course we don't catch the stream live
Man, I just wish chat didn't exist so I could enjoy Joseph's walkthrough in peace without cringing at every Ryoji or Mitsuru and Yukari scene
Okay the Chidori fight feels sadder in this since he didn't even get much damage on her & she fell apart on her own since she was _already_ falling apart
4:31:29 MAN, A THEME
Nov 17 (Plot) = ronald mcdonald wants to play a game
Interesting start with that talk about vegan and creatine, from some easy to find papers it looks like there is high uncertainty about papers which say it is better for vegans than others but I didnt think that vegans have lower levels because of their diet so this is actually educational
HOW DOES HE ALWAYS KNOW
Nodja is Speed.
Metaphor's story has the same level of complexity as the David Cage ones. Don't get this obsession at all
22:00 reddit story
I think Joe would really hate Metaphor, more than any other persona game
Louis Gjallarhorn being budget Sephiroth with the exact same "my existence is tragic therefore the world should perish" trope was probably the worst about that game.
Otherwise I mostly enjoyed the story and I don't remember anything close to the lows of Persona storytelling like pancakes, gas station workers or crucifixes happening in Metaphor.
I assume he'd enjoy SMTVV though. My favorite Atlus titles are probably SMT4 and Strange Journey but I don't see Joe ever touching a Nintendo DS game.
@pabloezcurlbar7253 Funny enough, Louis It's the best thing that game has in my opinion
I think It's in the middle of the story when start to fall off, and the end it's just a hit or miss most of the time
I’ve been thinking that as well, but I can also see him possibly enjoying metaphor more than any persona game too.
I think he would enjoy the plot to some extent, but would hate the on the nose societal commentary.
It has best pacing tho
Ken mentioned the others in the dorm talk about the MC all the time, yet this is the first persona MC i feel that doesn't have any charisma. P5 had a kinda cheeky, cocky thing going on and P4 had a very blunt silent thing imo.
edit: i didn't feel any connection between junpei and chidori at ALL.
This was about the time in the game I really checked out and I dropped it not long after. So many things that are just so silly or undermine themselves. I really don’t buy the Chidori drama at all because she’s barely in the game. Junpei sees her randomly in public three times where she barely engaged with him and suddenly he’s obsessed with her and she loves him. It’s a game that takes place over months, he really should have seen her so much more so I can actually buy their connection. And my god the Strega guy with the gun is just so stupid. In a game of gods and monsters they lean on the villain just being a dude whipping out a gun not once but twice. We have fought tanks and demon knights and all manner of monster but look out this guy has a GUN. I was able to deal with it the first time but doing it again was just too much.
I feel like you almost have to not think about the game’s plot deeper to actually enjoy it
aw damn junpei time!
Holy goated DA MAN pfp
as i think og 3 is alot better than reload (tho reload still is the definitive way to play 3), joes playthru of this made me once again realise why i love 4 and 5 and not 3, idk man 3 is just so forgettable to me. its an amazing game but imo its overrated to hell and back with its story and characters (with a very few exceptions), and reloads gameplay just feels like a cheap version of 5. ill give credit where its due as 3 may have a cliche yet pretty cool theme of life and death, it definitely would inspire some people experiencing depression or smth, but as a game its pretty overhyped tbh. (sorry for the unfocused yap)
no you’re totally right
Honestly P4 and P5 have similar issues all of the SMT and Persona games do
Like I'm reminded of how Ann's Arc starts out with her being Sexually Black Mailed by Kamoshida
If Joker didn't follow her she would have been graped but people's take away is Shiho jumping being the only fd up part
Which the story never addresses properly and Ann continues to be objectified through the story and gameplay removing the whole "Own her own sexuality theme"
Ive not been keeping up with streams, who’s the party member he just absolutely hates in this one, like yosuke and makoto?
No one, believe it or not. He had a mental breakdown over how Aigis, Koro, and Ken were first introduced into the party tho.
Closest comparison would probably be that he didn't use Junpei for a long time as soon as he was able to drop him, but Junpei still grew on him fairly quickly
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return of the velvet room copyright 💔💔💔
3:51:38 A BEVERAGE OF SORTS?!?
Neat
7:40 this reallly sums up my experience with persona and even though its only been 3 years since i llayed FES i do think its the weakest of the modern 3
4:12:57 I HOWLED LMAO 😂😂😂
2:14:42
HOW LONG IS THIS GAME?!
It never ends
A lot shorter than 5
Like 2-3 more in-game months, we are pretty close.
it's a persona game, they are all 20 hours too long
@@paul2609Joe’s playing The Answer…
Can i just say i feel like joe was infantilizing us a bit? "If you saw this 14 years ago when you were a kid and it was great then i dont want to get rid of that, but this sucks", ehhh i literally saw all p3r again when it came out and i still think that its story is fine, its just joe has a way higher intolerance to bad writing.
he literally said "when you were a kid" and you ask if he was infantilizing you. my brother in weeb his comment was towards people who played and grew up with the game as a kid
To be fair, that's just the recurring sub message he kept getting throughout the playthrough ("I remember playing this as a teen and it was my favorite game..." etc). It seems to be a decently common experience in chat, I don't think the intent was to infantilize, even if it ended up coming across that way.
Us? Mans just saying what he thinks. Go talk to your real friends. This is an entertainment product.
The story is still fine but I kinda feel like some moments were handled better in the Original, like the Ultimate Persona awakenings not cutting to a black void and instead just appearing over the users heads. I think that except for Fuuka being a vast improvement the main cast is just kinda...mediocre this time. It might also be a bit harder to take Persona seriously after the other two games are laden with almost the exact same tropes.
Joe has opinions, it's just whether you agree with them or not. I think a lot of them are fair, but some of them are just him fucking with the chat or him misunderstanding what's going on which is fine. I'm interested in hearing his thoughts on the game when he finishes it, the last third slaps and I hope he enjoys it.
I think he had a real freudian slip with calling the teacher Becky