I rarely play Toplane but a few days ago I decided to play Gwen just because I was watching your videos and I got 8/1 against a Jax, thanks a lot for the guide Ninkey :)
i dont play camille but legit every top laner ive played i just dont go flash ignite: irelia, kayle, garen. If you think flash is valuable on camille then take it over tp.
since i started playing gwen was my queen, i had to take a break because i dint have any teammates to play jungle so i switched to lillia, good to know that gwen is also pretty good on jungle, giving it a try tomorrow
ive been running it like 90% of games ive been playing, mainly going it not based on matchup but more based on if my team picks no frontline (they never pick frontline)
Hey man idk if ur gonna look at this but what about the bloodletters cursed on gwen? Is it bc the void staff being so good on ap scaling and gwen doesnt bother at all with the stats of that other item or theres some matchups idk when u can swap that for more bruiser playstyle i cant find someone talking properly about that option and im new with the gwen stuff so i was wondering that
i talked about it in my guide im pretty sure at the end, this item is just only good vs ksante since when u reduce his mr he does less damage and you deal more so its literally only good vs him. bruiser gwen is dead rn just play assassin
I dont see khazix much, im gold NA. I usually ban Yi when ik its a gwen game. Two questions. Is khazix a better ban than yi? and When is it time to play gwen or can you just blind pick her? I usually pick her when we need ap or when i need tank shred cuz my champ pool is viego gwen and recently diana a bit.
i always prefer nash first bc u can do crazy tower dmg especially more important since feats of strength first tower, rift shadowflame void is as good as it was before but i just really hate not doing tower dmg
Pretty much all of the melee matchups you want defensive (jax/sett/renekton etc), only the ranged top laners (teemo, aurora, vayne etc) sorcs are better since cheaper spike than defensive and they give you damage.
For this spilt i figured out my strategy: conq with haste and conditioning, overgrowth itesm: berserkers boots, rift, nashor (sometimes nashor first) then standard items Idk why but i win almost every matchup whit the bruiser build
yeah bruiser is really nice top lane, havent tried haste but i think if you went alacrity and went lucidity boots instead of berserkers you would get the same effect but cheaper (berserkers cost 1100)
The haste rune can give me 15 while lucidity only 10 Berserkers provide 25%, while alacrity 18% In my mind, 5 haste and 7% as are worth +200 gold. 5 haste is worth 250 gold, and 7% as is worth 175 gold, for total of 475 gold. So basically, i get 475 gold value for 200 Correct me if im wrong
Good guide, many useful pointers for a jungle main to learn more about how top works. One topical question, though: Much like your idol, won't disregarding all in favor of money land you in prison when the enemy -Greta- Lillia finds out your -pizza- biscuit deliverer?
yo i been looking for a gwen otp streamer to watch/learn from at the beginnig when you were saying "please follow me on twitch" i was thinking "yes yes yes"
i usually like taking second wind/bone plating against heavy hitter or poke champs and demolish on my secondary runes? any reason why you don’t take the green page?
i really hate building gwen as a tank on jg so i would just keep going assassin items. You have to play smart and choose when to engage but you should still be able to make it work even in squishy team comps
Honestly idk why it works but when I see pantheon I’m locking gwen and just beat him at lvl 1-2 with ignite tp. Should I go flash exhaust? I think I’ve seen only bad pantheons, so I need some tips Ninkey
pantheon is easy if they dont spam q you in lane (or you can dodge all of them). I think flash is really op in this matchup so I go flash ignite to flash his spear or flash behind him when he presses e to kill him
I am otp Gwen Toplane and just decided to swap to jungle. I think in jungle she is way more fun actually because it feels like less potential to fu** up. Sure, jungle is a harder role, but toplane has so much potential to go wrong and then you need to catch up again for the next 10min and by the time my Team may have already lost their mental
I felt the same thing i think its because feats of strength turbo op, your bot lane gets killed first blood loses tower game is gg. But now they nerfed the boots a bit so doesn't feel like the end of the world (my guess).
Blue pet only feels good for you bc you played almost exclusively everything but Jg for a good while so you’re used to having no ms so u like the ms. That being said I still hella love the blue pet
I'm a gwungle otp currently emerald III 70-ish lp, I'm not claiming to know better than Ninkey, he's way better than me, this is just what works for me as a mechanically deficient gwen enjoyer. Personally, I think attack speed is kind of worthless in the jungle since you can just e off cooldown when clearing camps since there's no skillshots to dodge and you don't have to manage your mana. Instead of nashors I just rush lichbane every game, the move speed feels really good in the jungle and with the 35 extra ap and the sheen proc the clear doesn't really feel much slower. And into khazix I go exhaust, green smite, and liandry's first item since its really the only health/ap item that helps with clear speed. In my experience, with the shield from green smite, the health from liandry's, steelcaps, and exhaust, kha basically can't kill you. I also really love randiun's and abyssal mask as situational third items for when I'm ahead and can afford to build defensive. I think randuin's is just criminally underrated (75 armor, 350 health, an anti-crit passive, and an active slow that helps gwen stick to targets without ult) and abyssal mask is more survivability than banshees while still amping damage, plus both are pretty cheap and easy to afford from ahead. For secondary runes I usually take sudden impact + treasure hunter. Gwen is really good at abusing sudden impact and it adds a ton of damage in early skirmishes for no effort, and treasure hunter helps make up for the loss of free boots (it can give up to 450 gold, which is potentially more than you save from going free boots, though it's not really realistic to complete treasure hunter early enough for it to be a true direct substitute for free boots). Edit: Also, thank you Ninkey for your content. You started making videos only a few months after I started playing ranked and I've learned a lot about how to pilot gwen from watching you play.
I second you ninkey on the jungle build: nashor has similar clear speed compared to rift and it is a trap item. just try replacing nahor with rift and the rest of the jungle build stays. rift has about 10-15% single target dmg, but its vamp and dmg amp and health synergized beautifully with last stand and conqueror. With triple tonic, e is maxed at lvl 12, and with nashor attk speed is 1.72 vs the without attak speed 1.34, not really that much of a difference considering the insane 1 v 9 potential rift+shadow/dcap offers which nashor does not offer as much.
"if you don't have a gwen skin, then litreally use the default" Thanks ninkey very good tip
I went from 2% WR on Gwen to 103% thanks to this tip btw
I rarely play Toplane but a few days ago I decided to play Gwen just because I was watching your videos and I got 8/1 against a Jax, thanks a lot for the guide Ninkey :)
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Found your channel earlier this week and became an instant fan.
i knew first strike gwen was bait, ty for validating my feelings
Thanks man, with your video just now I was able to get challenger
Thx for the guide been waiting for it
I just picked up Gwen, any beginner tips? My first three games I couldn’t do shit. My W feels useless against melee champs and idk how to start fights
Thx for this great guide! Im playing camille too, do you think tp is useless for her too ?
i dont play camille but legit every top laner ive played i just dont go flash ignite: irelia, kayle, garen. If you think flash is valuable on camille then take it over tp.
since i started playing gwen was my queen, i had to take a break because i dint have any teammates to play jungle so i switched to lillia, good to know that gwen is also pretty good on jungle, giving it a try tomorrow
For the top lane builds, what matchups should we go nashors+rift instead of the old build?
ive been running it like 90% of games ive been playing, mainly going it not based on matchup but more based on if my team picks no frontline (they never pick frontline)
W guide ninkey
Hey man idk if ur gonna look at this but what about the bloodletters cursed on gwen? Is it bc the void staff being so good on ap scaling and gwen doesnt bother at all with the stats of that other item or theres some matchups idk when u can swap that for more bruiser playstyle i cant find someone talking properly about that option and im new with the gwen stuff so i was wondering that
i talked about it in my guide im pretty sure at the end, this item is just only good vs ksante since when u reduce his mr he does less damage and you deal more so its literally only good vs him. bruiser gwen is dead rn just play assassin
Tysm @@ninkeygwen i like how u keep everything fast and simple in this guide
might be the goat
I dont see khazix much, im gold NA. I usually ban Yi when ik its a gwen game. Two questions.
Is khazix a better ban than yi? and When is it time to play gwen or can you just blind pick her? I usually pick her when we need ap or when i need tank shred cuz my champ pool is viego gwen and recently diana a bit.
Do you not recommend rift shadowflame void anymore?
When building rift + Nash, which one do you build first?
i always prefer nash first bc u can do crazy tower dmg especially more important since feats of strength first tower, rift shadowflame void is as good as it was before but i just really hate not doing tower dmg
What do you think of the singed matchup? Its been my perma ban lately
For top how often do we have to take sorcs shoes? Like in what matchup do you need to take défensive shoes ?
Pretty much all of the melee matchups you want defensive (jax/sett/renekton etc), only the ranged top laners (teemo, aurora, vayne etc) sorcs are better since cheaper spike than defensive and they give you damage.
What happens if the other team wants to swap into you top lane? Meaning you'll be facing the SUP+ADC, do these same lane rules apply?
For this spilt i figured out my strategy: conq with haste and conditioning, overgrowth
itesm: berserkers boots, rift, nashor (sometimes nashor first) then standard items
Idk why but i win almost every matchup whit the bruiser build
yeah bruiser is really nice top lane, havent tried haste but i think if you went alacrity and went lucidity boots instead of berserkers you would get the same effect but cheaper (berserkers cost 1100)
The haste rune can give me 15 while lucidity only 10
Berserkers provide 25%, while alacrity 18%
In my mind, 5 haste and 7% as are worth +200 gold.
5 haste is worth 250 gold, and 7% as is worth 175 gold, for total of 475 gold.
So basically, i get 475 gold value for 200
Correct me if im wrong
Good guide, many useful pointers for a jungle main to learn more about how top works. One topical question, though: Much like your idol, won't disregarding all in favor of money land you in prison when the enemy -Greta- Lillia finds out your -pizza- biscuit deliverer?
yo i been looking for a gwen otp streamer to watch/learn from
at the beginnig when you were saying "please follow me on twitch" i was thinking "yes yes yes"
i usually like taking second wind/bone plating against heavy hitter or poke champs and demolish on my secondary runes? any reason why you don’t take the green page?
what if I'm a jg main and my team is squishy? should I build more hp items? or let my team get engaged on and die and then clean up w a penta
i really hate building gwen as a tank on jg so i would just keep going assassin items. You have to play smart and choose when to engage but you should still be able to make it work even in squishy team comps
@@ninkeygwen Thanks man!
Yo , can you make a short on ornn, i thought it would be easy but i got obliterated, i need guide asap
Honestly idk why it works but when I see pantheon I’m locking gwen and just beat him at lvl 1-2 with ignite tp. Should I go flash exhaust? I think I’ve seen only bad pantheons, so I need some tips Ninkey
pantheon is easy if they dont spam q you in lane (or you can dodge all of them). I think flash is really op in this matchup so I go flash ignite to flash his spear or flash behind him when he presses e to kill him
Bro trying to pass bauls in deaths every game and still challenger thats impressive :)
I am otp Gwen Toplane and just decided to swap to jungle. I think in jungle she is way more fun actually because it feels like less potential to fu** up. Sure, jungle is a harder role, but toplane has so much potential to go wrong and then you need to catch up again for the next 10min and by the time my Team may have already lost their mental
Why was trundle stomping gwen a patch ago while now it's an equal matchup ? I can't figure out what changed so much in favor of gwen
For reference gwen had 45.9% winrate against trundle on 14.23 while now it's exactly 50
do you know why gwen felt like she got hit with the biggest nerf toplane as soon as i played the first game of the season she kinda felt unplayable
I felt the same thing i think its because feats of strength turbo op, your bot lane gets killed first blood loses tower game is gg. But now they nerfed the boots a bit so doesn't feel like the end of the world (my guess).
what to do if your team just ints.... i remember i went 18/3 against cho gath one time, and i was the only one on my team who had a positive kda.....
Instructions uncleare, i became their adc with heartsteel
space groove has PEAK sound effects and chromas
Blue pet only feels good for you bc you played almost exclusively everything but Jg for a good while so you’re used to having no ms so u like the ms. That being said I still hella love the blue pet
This guys is so fake for thinking spacegrove being gwen's best skin
Also default is the best gwen skin
u missed the secret gwen start only built by the best gwen players in the world. The dark seal refillable start,
XDD yeah mb
the andrew tate jumpscare is scaring me
Played my fist few matches and I even solo carried after disconnecting
based
also please do not cover advanced gwen combos, so the jungle win rate do not increase further.
i find it hard going against teemo than garen for some reason T-T
if u die early its terrible but if u manage to not die pre 6 then its really easy
great video except for the sol hate >:((
we are friends lmao dw
Yeah but the thing is feats of strength are ass so it doesn't matter so you can still run FS
still not a fan of it but yea
I'm going HoB jg gwen right now am i a monkey
its not bad i was running it for a while until xeirzo told me that you dont need hail of blades technology to counter invades
TOP G (gwen)
carries? dont you mean int, go 0/10, then still win bc adc is broken?
adc is broken
I'm a gwungle otp currently emerald III 70-ish lp, I'm not claiming to know better than Ninkey, he's way better than me, this is just what works for me as a mechanically deficient gwen enjoyer.
Personally, I think attack speed is kind of worthless in the jungle since you can just e off cooldown when clearing camps since there's no skillshots to dodge and you don't have to manage your mana. Instead of nashors I just rush lichbane every game, the move speed feels really good in the jungle and with the 35 extra ap and the sheen proc the clear doesn't really feel much slower. And into khazix I go exhaust, green smite, and liandry's first item since its really the only health/ap item that helps with clear speed. In my experience, with the shield from green smite, the health from liandry's, steelcaps, and exhaust, kha basically can't kill you. I also really love randiun's and abyssal mask as situational third items for when I'm ahead and can afford to build defensive. I think randuin's is just criminally underrated (75 armor, 350 health, an anti-crit passive, and an active slow that helps gwen stick to targets without ult) and abyssal mask is more survivability than banshees while still amping damage, plus both are pretty cheap and easy to afford from ahead. For secondary runes I usually take sudden impact + treasure hunter. Gwen is really good at abusing sudden impact and it adds a ton of damage in early skirmishes for no effort, and treasure hunter helps make up for the loss of free boots (it can give up to 450 gold, which is potentially more than you save from going free boots, though it's not really realistic to complete treasure hunter early enough for it to be a true direct substitute for free boots).
Edit: Also, thank you Ninkey for your content. You started making videos only a few months after I started playing ranked and I've learned a lot about how to pilot gwen from watching you play.
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I second you ninkey on the jungle build: nashor has similar clear speed compared to rift and it is a trap item. just try replacing nahor with rift and the rest of the jungle build stays. rift has about 10-15% single target dmg, but its vamp and dmg amp and health synergized beautifully with last stand and conqueror. With triple tonic, e is maxed at lvl 12, and with nashor attk speed is 1.72 vs the without attak speed 1.34, not really that much of a difference considering the insane 1 v 9 potential rift+shadow/dcap offers which nashor does not offer as much.
im gonna make a video testing rift jungle soon and ill tell you what i think
u are wrong.
1 minute ago, yikes
Is this a AD Gwen moment?