I've had good luck with running the 259d and can say there great and reliable I focus on grading floors to hard scraping and anything else a track machine could be used for. I'm an owner operator with only this machine to make my businesses successful so it has to be reliable. I put anywhere from 1300 to 1500 hours in three seasons and shut down in the winter months. I ran my last 2015 model machine to 3500 hours with only a few issues along the way. The only thing that tended to fail on me on a regular basis was the electric fuel lifter pump a really simple fix and only takes 15 min to swap out having a spare on me at all times. The undercarriage was worn right out and needed all new boggies the seals let go so no oil left in them I never replaced one traded it last year for a new 2018 model and it has 1380 hours on it with no issues other than the lift pump again. When I get a machine I do wrap the houses with tire iner tube that go from the the drives to the pump to minimize lines rubbing threw. I change the hydraulic hoses on the boom around 1500 hours because I find the hose flexes really bad at the back of the machine and I hate down time its alot easier and nicer to change lines in a heated shop on my off season rather than when on a job site. Used to run asv - terex before and was constantly fixing them. Its nice too jump into a machine that gives you peace of mind it's going to keep running.
259d is a great machine owned one new since 2016 ran it 900hrs and traded it in for a 2018 259d with hydro quick disconnect not electric. I like that they can dig without stalling out and have lots of pushing power. The emissions are great with the engine design
We just bought a used CAT 259 D and the speed sensor and broken drive hose that you pointed out both needed to get fixed within a month after we received it.
Whats the best attachment for grading? also is that a mulcher on the skid steer in the video? I'm looking in to starting a land clearing company I'm down in south texas. trying to figure out what works best. thanks for any help
Agree with the bad radio and water issue. Also why can't the locate it up front somewhere so you can actually see it and access the controls ? Only way you can operate the radio is when standing toward the seat. Can't acess during operation. By the way, I changed the radio with a better unit; sound is much better but still bad location. Do you have any issues with water getting inside the cab from rain ? I have this issue but can't see a problem with the door seal or roof glass seal. Could it be coming in from the bad radio seal system ? When changing radios, I was careful to use the original case with threaded bolt system to reseal, but suspicious it leaks there. Any thoughts or experience with water leaks in the cab ?
Mine pulled the speed sensor wire clear out from under the cab. Also, the glow plugs come on for a few seconds before start and then cut off. Even at 0 degrees. Then they operate after startup for 30 seconds. Really annoying.
I had the blue smoke after I had really cold temps. Spent a ton of time figuring it out. Ended up having the mobile cat guy fix it and he showed me how to unplug and bypass this system
A couple years ago my company bought a small fleet of these as they definitely were the superior performer but after 2 years of use and cost analysis it turned out the hourly operating costs were substantially higher than our D8 dozers which themselves are not cheap machines to operate,the proprietary undercarriage parts is what makes them superior performers but also their main downfall cost wise,good unit only if you have money to burn.
The Door/Windshield is a pain in the ass. JCB have solved this design flaw by putting it on the side. Also having one arm instead of two helps. You can enter and exit with the arm in any position.
Hey Budd , do some research online there is aftermarket guards for the speed sensors ... I put 1000k hours on a 259d at the new Rams stadium 12 hours a day 7 days a week and only issue it had was the track sensor ! Fucking awesome for grading and dozing piles ....
@@DewmOnline I have no idea what it's called sorry bud, I forgot. But it was a know issue that I'm pretty sure was fixed in the D3 . I believe they relocated speed sensors
i have bought a 259d brand new in 2016. Great machine served me well, speed sensor went out, thats it in 900 hrs. Traded it in for a new 2018 259d and that machine is just as awesome, got the hydro bucket disconnect. Was looking at a 2017 Takeuchi tl8 for $50,000.00 loaded with high flow but the emissions turned we away and instead bought the 2018 259d for $62,000.00 loaded with out high flow.
Cat track skid steers use a cushioned trunnion suspension which rides so nice but is inferior for grading like trying to grade with a wheel loader,secondly the operating costs on the cats is almost double all the competition,when used in mud the hourly costs are higher than a d8
@@DaveTW65 you obviously don't know what your talking when it comes to grading because the CATS especially the 259 are the most well balanced and smoothest controls , no delay with the pilot controls and can make tiny movements with the bucket.... Bobcats have more power but are a joke to grade with
traded my 259 for a 289 longer better ride take mine to cat for service if they leave oil filter loose r dont put oil n it there problem came with poly windsheid coulg have made some grease fitting eaiser to get to hate the radio dont really like final drivers outside newer machines external final drive hoses r easier to replace buds bbcat a litther faster but my cat dealer has great service
Not much bucket curl, awkward to get in and out, bad rear and side visibility, hard to clean window. I have a 257b and a 2018 brand new New holland C227 fully loaded for $56 000 CAD its better than the 257b in every way except the track rubble on hard ground and electronic controls are shitty compared to hydraulic pilots. The C227 is two speed and in high its the same speed as the 257b when twice the pushing power.
I run a 259 d3 where I am working and I don’t like it for many different reasons it’s under powered the visibility is horrible the cab is too small the lifting capacity is not great witch is great because if it had decent lifting you’d break the loader and the one at work they keep breaking locking pins for the attachment and quick coupler attach plate from my experience Kubota makes a nicer machine than cat only nice thing for cat is the speed
If you're impressed with that pile of junk wait till you run a good one. John deere 333g is where it's at. Although today I tried out a ghel vt320 and that thing was a beast
I wasted a minute of my life watching this, jeez he thinks its the best machine but hates it, WHICH IS IT!!!, I fix machines for a living, brand new machines break, old machines break, 🙄
And you tell people it is the best! Why? Because you are paying for the yellow paint! You could give me one, only so I could sell it and buy something else!
I've had good luck with running the 259d and can say there great and reliable I focus on grading floors to hard scraping and anything else a track machine could be used for. I'm an owner operator with only this machine to make my businesses successful so it has to be reliable. I put anywhere from 1300 to 1500 hours in three seasons and shut down in the winter months. I ran my last 2015 model machine to 3500 hours with only a few issues along the way. The only thing that tended to fail on me on a regular basis was the electric fuel lifter pump a really simple fix and only takes 15 min to swap out having a spare on me at all times. The undercarriage was worn right out and needed all new boggies the seals let go so no oil left in them I never replaced one traded it last year for a new 2018 model and it has 1380 hours on it with no issues other than the lift pump again. When I get a machine I do wrap the houses with tire iner tube that go from the the drives to the pump to minimize lines rubbing threw. I change the hydraulic hoses on the boom around 1500 hours because I find the hose flexes really bad at the back of the machine and I hate down time its alot easier and nicer to change lines in a heated shop on my off season rather than when on a job site. Used to run asv - terex before and was constantly fixing them. Its nice too jump into a machine that gives you peace of mind it's going to keep running.
259d is a great machine owned one new since 2016 ran it 900hrs and traded it in for a 2018 259d with hydro quick disconnect not electric. I like that they can dig without stalling out and have lots of pushing power. The emissions are great with the engine design
We just bought a used CAT 259 D and the speed sensor and broken drive hose that you pointed out both needed to get fixed within a month after we received it.
You can set that up to have a remote oil filter up on the door. It'll probably void your warranty even though it won't hurt anything.
Whats the best attachment for grading? also is that a mulcher on the skid steer in the video? I'm looking in to starting a land clearing company I'm down in south texas. trying to figure out what works best. thanks for any help
Agree with the bad radio and water issue. Also why can't the locate it up front somewhere so you can actually see it and access the controls ? Only way you can operate the radio is when standing toward the seat. Can't acess during operation. By the way, I changed the radio with a better unit; sound is much better but still bad location. Do you have any issues with water getting inside the cab from rain ? I have this issue but can't see a problem with the door seal or roof glass seal. Could it be coming in from the bad radio seal system ? When changing radios, I was careful to use the original case with threaded bolt system to reseal, but suspicious it leaks there. Any thoughts or experience with water leaks in the cab ?
Mine pulled the speed sensor wire clear out from under the cab.
Also, the glow plugs come on for a few seconds before start and then cut off. Even at 0 degrees. Then they operate after startup for 30 seconds.
Really annoying.
There is a box that should be around that radio with seals. It came on the machine from the factory and whoever installed the radio threw it away.
On the c models the radio was interipr mount
Weird they went to a glass windscreen in these the 216b I use daily has a plastic windscreen
I had the blue smoke after I had really cold temps. Spent a ton of time figuring it out. Ended up having the mobile cat guy fix it and he showed me how to unplug and bypass this system
A couple years ago my company bought a small fleet of these as they definitely were the superior performer but after 2 years of use and cost analysis it turned out the hourly operating costs were substantially higher than our D8 dozers which themselves are not cheap machines to operate,the proprietary undercarriage parts is what makes them superior performers but also their main downfall cost wise,good unit only if you have money to burn.
It looks like pulling the battery would make it easier to change the filter.
Most likely the Cat Shop removes the battery to change the filter? These 259Ds are built like a tank🌻
Nice video
The Door/Windshield is a pain in the ass. JCB have solved this design flaw by putting it on the side. Also having one arm instead of two helps. You can enter and exit with the arm in any position.
Hey Budd , do some research online there is aftermarket guards for the speed sensors ... I put 1000k hours on a 259d at the new Rams stadium 12 hours a day 7 days a week and only issue it had was the track sensor ! Fucking awesome for grading and dozing piles ....
Picking up a new 239D3, I'm assuming its going to have the same issue. Any idea what the aftermarket guard is called? thanks!
@@DewmOnline I have no idea what it's called sorry bud, I forgot. But it was a know issue that I'm pretty sure was fixed in the D3 . I believe they relocated speed sensors
Lots of times the speed sensor will throw a code tighten the tracks and it will go away
Just bought one of these. Being delivered next week!
SuburbanHobbyist
Should of bought a bobcat
@@523FILMS should have bought anything but a Cat or a Bobcat!
i have bought a 259d brand new in 2016. Great machine served me well, speed sensor went out, thats it in 900 hrs. Traded it in for a new 2018 259d and that machine is just as awesome, got the hydro bucket disconnect. Was looking at a 2017 Takeuchi tl8 for $50,000.00 loaded with high flow but the emissions turned we away and instead bought the 2018 259d for $62,000.00 loaded with out high flow.
Have a polly. Its no better honestly. It gets scratched up then makes it hard to see out of. Especially if your facing the sun
I agree , don't do it ! Scratch way to easy
Try some PM my guy...with that much dirt packed around your drive motors what do you expect?
Sounds like there's some flaws in design and didn't care what could happen (their not users)? ;-)
I say try using a pressure washer to help keep dirt from being that much of a problem. Clean machine operates much better.
If it’s under warranty why did they charge you in the speed sensor?
I’m glad I came across this video, I was interested in buying one of these, now I know I wouldn’t have this POS
I owned three Takeuchi TL 130 and TL8's ride alittle harder but build better. Not as many "common" problems !
Over 6,000 hours with NO BREAKDOWNS !
All my exact same complainta
Will this model load a large dump truck?
Yes
We sell the poly windshields,just call us at TerraCAT Dunedin
Guess you never ran a takeuchi .they make the best trac loader money can buy.try one you will see the difference.
i have a bobcat t190 and love it, ive heard nothing but great things about takeuchi. cat hasnt impressed me.
Brandon Patton so what happens if you’ve ran all 3 and Takeuchi is still your favorite?
10 year ago when they didn't have emissions. Turn one off when its doing a regene. Todays machines are completely different and buyer be ware
Cat track skid steers use a cushioned trunnion suspension which rides so nice but is inferior for grading like trying to grade with a wheel loader,secondly the operating costs on the cats is almost double all the competition,when used in mud the hourly costs are higher than a d8
@@DaveTW65 you obviously don't know what your talking when it comes to grading because the CATS especially the 259 are the most well balanced and smoothest controls , no delay with the pilot controls and can make tiny movements with the bucket.... Bobcats have more power but are a joke to grade with
traded my 259 for a 289 longer better ride take mine to cat for service if they leave oil filter loose r dont put oil n it there problem came with poly windsheid coulg have made some grease fitting eaiser to get to hate the radio dont really like final drivers outside newer machines external final drive hoses r easier to replace buds bbcat a litther faster but my cat dealer has great service
Foresty winshield!
Clean your machines track frame everynight!....
You must not work long grueling days. Nobody is cleaning their undercarriages every night
Not much bucket curl, awkward to get in and out, bad rear and side visibility, hard to clean window. I have a 257b and a 2018 brand new New holland C227 fully loaded for $56 000 CAD its better than the 257b in every way except the track rubble on hard ground and electronic controls are shitty compared to hydraulic pilots. The C227 is two speed and in high its the same speed as the 257b when twice the pushing power.
you can get a polly windshield
Man I have never seen one so not looked after lol
Let me tell you all the good things about a Cat. Oh wait I cant thing of a single thing. You couldn't run fast enough to give me another Cat
I run a 259 d3 where I am working and I don’t like it for many different reasons it’s under powered the visibility is horrible the cab is too small the lifting capacity is not great witch is great because if it had decent lifting you’d break the loader and the one at work they keep breaking locking pins for the attachment and quick coupler attach plate from my experience Kubota makes a nicer machine than cat only nice thing for cat is the speed
That's not a skid steer. That is a CTL (compact track loader) Skid steers have wheels.
Same same. Who gives a fuck. What are you a dictionary
No radio's in heavy equipment my oppinin
You prefer to hear engine whine?
Go figure the bobcat guy says I haven't had a problem in 20 years, I bet he drives a Ford too🤷
Everyone has problems, I said no major problems.
Ya he does fords are the best bozo
Stupid drive speed sensor!
If you're impressed with that pile of junk wait till you run a good one. John deere 333g is where it's at. Although today I tried out a ghel vt320 and that thing was a beast
After watching this, I'm even more comfortable saying I'll never own a Cat hahaha
Wait until you have trouble with the high pressure fuel system these are the biggest pieces of crap that Cat sells.
So what I got Out of this was by a John Deere😂
yap yap yap
It is called a CTL,,,,,,not a skid steer,,,,,😁
Not very well though out, bad design flaws
Buy a Tachauche japan builds better machines
Trade it in for new bobcat , been running bobcat for over 20 years, never any major problems
I wasted a minute of my life watching this, jeez he thinks its the best machine but hates it, WHICH IS IT!!!, I fix machines for a living, brand new machines break, old machines break, 🙄
What makes it nose dive with a full bucket or bouncy in the front
Rule number one is: things brake!Rule number two is: see rule number one 🌻
@@andrewpitman7663 the ride control?
They are sensitive af
Kubota engine with cat components
That's old junk...I have a 2018 249D and a 2022 262D3 and they are both awesome....oh yeah, and clean your machine it looks neglected af
Any d series machine from cat is Junk
NO!
And you tell people it is the best! Why? Because you are paying for the yellow paint! You could give me one, only so I could sell it and buy something else!
NOT
How about getting rid of the stupid swing door setup. John Deere, cat, bobcat.. the dumbest piece of engineering period.