I want a vampire light for my “go-to” and Streamlight almost did it with the new pro, but we will have to dish out $400 or continue waiting. I think they could do it for sub 200 judging by the price of the pro.
I'd love to get my hands on a Vampire to test. I'm sure Streamlight could come out with something similar for cheaper, but Surefire has the patent for the rotating LED's. The Nightstick just released their LGL-180 IR, which has dual capabilities like the vampire, but it's not a rotating set of LEDs within the light head, like the Vampire. There's 2 LED's that are stationary within the light head with a rotating bezzle that switches between the LED's. While it's $100 cheaper than the Vampire, it's still expensive at $330. The upside is the white light puts out 1100 lumens at 13,100 candela and the IR puts out 940nm 1400mw. Much more output than the Vampire.
Do you need a $400 light? No, but you'll want one after you see the $100 light struggle with photonic barriers. For example, you're outside of your garage in the middle of the day. There's something scrambling under your car that you'd want to ID before going inside. You're going to want that candela throw and not washed out by the sun. That's ONE example.
I get it, but as you said. That's one example. Realistically, in that scenario, you're going to be fairly close up on that window and that photonic barrier is not going to be as big of an issue as it would if you were 20 yards away trying to see in. Personally, I'm not projecting my presence from outside and giving that intruder the heads-up. I'm either calling the cops or I'm going in cuz I know my garage better than they do. I have the upper hand, and I'm most likely armed better than they are. We have to remember, guys were using far less for a long time and getting the job done. As I stated in the video, I can see a NEED for a $400 light being necessary in a professional role, but as civilians, we need to weigh our options. Especially if we're trying to get things done on a budget. There's plenty of lights sub $200 that be the job done well and combat photonic barriers to an exceptable degree.
@Eric-hx2or what concepts? The concept of simply being able to identify a potential threat in the dark? I did my fair share of low light training in the Army. I do shoot quite a bit at night. It's not a complicated topic. I understand the issues of photonic barriers. Overcoming lights that may mask someone's position, glass, fog, etc. The ability to punch through those barriers to see what you need to see. I get it. Again, I'm not making a case for a professional use setting where you're more likely to run into those variables more frequently. I'm making a case for the average, everyday civilian looking to outfit themselves should they have a home invasion or any type of shtf. If you have a Rein 3.0 or Surefire Turbo, great. Never said you shouldn't get one. If money was no option, I'm sure everyone would have them. Myself included, but in todays economy, many Americans don't have the disposable income to spend big dollars on a flashlight. These are just a few options.
@airborneivan the army? Aaahhh...I see where this comes from. I'd advise you to seek out some instruction on applying light in defensive scenarios. It's eye opening. I was once convinced it truly didn't matter until those $100 light couldn't compete with windows, transitional lighting, photonic barriers, etc. All the everyday citizen has to contend with. Picking when and where isn't an option.
Very informative video. I have stood strong on telling folks to run whatever works for them that their pockets allow. There will always be elitists. I notice these group of dudes have good info yet thrive on talkin down those that dont run what they run. I take in the good, ignore the crap. Kick ass vid, man. A WML is super important indeed.
@@airborneivan I usually only do shorts in the summer months. Its brutal here! Already hittin 107°F. I do have a video halfways done that I need to finish. Gotta find the time tho. You, my friend, have solid content. Keep them videos coming! Gracias, bro!
@@DesertTactical yeah. I can see how that would be a problem. It's been hard working on anything lately. New house and traveling for work put a big damper on things. Hope to get back in the swing of it. I appreciate that. Thanks.
I want a vampire light for my “go-to” and Streamlight almost did it with the new pro, but we will have to dish out $400 or continue waiting. I think they could do it for sub 200 judging by the price of the pro.
I'd love to get my hands on a Vampire to test. I'm sure Streamlight could come out with something similar for cheaper, but Surefire has the patent for the rotating LED's. The Nightstick just released their LGL-180 IR, which has dual capabilities like the vampire, but it's not a rotating set of LEDs within the light head, like the Vampire. There's 2 LED's that are stationary within the light head with a rotating bezzle that switches between the LED's. While it's $100 cheaper than the Vampire, it's still expensive at $330. The upside is the white light puts out 1100 lumens at 13,100 candela and the IR puts out 940nm 1400mw. Much more output than the Vampire.
Do you need a $400 light? No, but you'll want one after you see the $100 light struggle with photonic barriers.
For example, you're outside of your garage in the middle of the day. There's something scrambling under your car that you'd want to ID before going inside.
You're going to want that candela throw and not washed out by the sun.
That's ONE example.
I get it, but as you said. That's one example. Realistically, in that scenario, you're going to be fairly close up on that window and that photonic barrier is not going to be as big of an issue as it would if you were 20 yards away trying to see in. Personally, I'm not projecting my presence from outside and giving that intruder the heads-up. I'm either calling the cops or I'm going in cuz I know my garage better than they do. I have the upper hand, and I'm most likely armed better than they are.
We have to remember, guys were using far less for a long time and getting the job done. As I stated in the video, I can see a NEED for a $400 light being necessary in a professional role, but as civilians, we need to weigh our options. Especially if we're trying to get things done on a budget. There's plenty of lights sub $200 that be the job done well and combat photonic barriers to an exceptable degree.
@airborneivan where did you attend low-light training? I'm curious of whom would instruct these concepts.
@Eric-hx2or what concepts? The concept of simply being able to identify a potential threat in the dark? I did my fair share of low light training in the Army. I do shoot quite a bit at night. It's not a complicated topic. I understand the issues of photonic barriers. Overcoming lights that may mask someone's position, glass, fog, etc. The ability to punch through those barriers to see what you need to see. I get it. Again, I'm not making a case for a professional use setting where you're more likely to run into those variables more frequently. I'm making a case for the average, everyday civilian looking to outfit themselves should they have a home invasion or any type of shtf. If you have a Rein 3.0 or Surefire Turbo, great. Never said you shouldn't get one. If money was no option, I'm sure everyone would have them. Myself included, but in todays economy, many Americans don't have the disposable income to spend big dollars on a flashlight. These are just a few options.
@airborneivan the army? Aaahhh...I see where this comes from. I'd advise you to seek out some instruction on applying light in defensive scenarios. It's eye opening.
I was once convinced it truly didn't matter until those $100 light couldn't compete with windows, transitional lighting, photonic barriers, etc.
All the everyday citizen has to contend with. Picking when and where isn't an option.
Sounds to me like Mike sorts by price high to low when shopping for 2A gear 😂
Lmao.
If it cost you $60 on ebay then yes.
Fiiirst!!!
Very informative video. I have stood strong on telling folks to run whatever works for them that their pockets allow. There will always be elitists. I notice these group of dudes have good info yet thrive on talkin down those that dont run what they run. I take in the good, ignore the crap. Kick ass vid, man. A WML is super important indeed.
@DesertTactical much appreciated.
@DesertTactical you got anything in the works? Been a little bit since your last vid.
@@airborneivan I usually only do shorts in the summer months. Its brutal here! Already hittin 107°F. I do have a video halfways done that I need to finish. Gotta find the time tho. You, my friend, have solid content. Keep them videos coming! Gracias, bro!
@@DesertTactical yeah. I can see how that would be a problem. It's been hard working on anything lately. New house and traveling for work put a big damper on things. Hope to get back in the swing of it. I appreciate that. Thanks.