One thing I’d do for this console setup is enable automix for your 1st four mics (speaking mics). Put em all in the same automix group and set your priorities. Luckily, you put all your mics on channels 1-8 (the only channels available to use automix on the X32). Makes a big difference when you’ve got more than 1 speaking mic on at a time. The automix not only “ducks” the speakers that aren’t speaking at the time.. but it consolidates the output of each automix channel, making the livestream audio more consistent. Without automix, every mic channel you turn on adds approx 3db to the mix.. but with automix, all the automix channels share the same 3db… So if you have a panel of 4 speakers and they all laugh at the same time, the levels don’t skyrocket! I leave automix enabled all the time for my speaking mics, even if they’re not being used.
26:11 In the mixer preferences, turn on "DCA Groups" under "Mute System" and you'll save yourself and your team the headache of trying to figure out why an unmuted channel isn't passing audio because the DCA was muted.
We use some busses to group channels before they go to the P16s, for example we have a tracks channel or a TB channel. You can also use it to have one channel for different instruments, for example we have a saxophone player that never plays when the electric guitar is playing. So they share a group and you don't need to change any routing for that.
Rather than using a 25 foot USB Cable. I use a USB to CAT6 extender. Way more reliable and you can move the laptop or iPad anywhere you need it for tracks.
Pro Tip on Gates, without purchasing any additional gear: most consoles allow the ability of filtering, or keying, your Gate. This does NOT affect the signal input or output. It tells the gate what frequencies in the signal to look for and/or exclude. Many consoles also have the ability to Listen or Solo the filter--do NOT Listen or Solo live during an event. I use this function on drums, talkbacks and sometimes vocals.
PATCHING 1-to-1: @ 18:48 through 19:09 - I assume you are meaning - Stage Box-1 goes to Mixer-1; SB-1 to Mx-2; etc - If the Mixer is 1 to 16 (or 32) Left-to-Right; then why Place/Number the Stage in the Opposite Direction from the Sound Engineer’s Perspective?
Hey man i have the same mixer at my church and wanted to know what the software is called at 19:32 , i also have cakewalk with that real time pitch correction from wave (that i still need to test) and connected the mixers ethernet to a router to control it from a ipad, also do all the these softwares comunicate with the mixer with usb to the mixer with no DANTE network???
walls are slapping back there - of course sound treatment is probably in the future there. A nice low removeable false wall to cover up the stage box areas would make it nice. With all the open channels, go with two crowd mics to give IEMs a stereo feel for those mixing IEMs as stereo. It also would allow the stream mix to be wider, of course.
speaking bus looks too low for a level broadcast - we have to +10 dB for speakers to keep to the same level of the band (ie. the listener does not have to change volume for speakers to hear them at a tolerable/equal level to the band). These videos always forget to educate the viewer about mixing in the Effects returns into their broadcast stereo feed. This is why so many church broadcasts sound and feel "mono" and centered.
You can but if you want more control - using multiple stereo buses combined into a final Matrix allows for more options. And don't forget putting a limiter on the final matrix for best level of broadcast. But you can use the matrix Dynamics (compressors) setup with a 20:1 or 100:1 ratio in order to act much like a limiter. This video by Jake could have gone a lot further than what was shown. But it definitely appears he took this church from where they were to a level above. A few more levels to go from here.
He said in the video he would order them. I would like to challenge Jake to make cables to exact lengths (just a little bit of soldering). You can make things look great with that.
@@jedd1 This is a good example of many small churches who struggled or got by with whatever they could put together. Though the team will need training and reasons "why" things were done the new way. Rudiments of mixing, setup of signal routes, etc. I think many times I see posts on Facebook saying "we're not technical so..." - but I challenge people to actually learn something new and enjoy the process of education - learn to become an autodidact and thrive.
One thing I’d do for this console setup is enable automix for your 1st four mics (speaking mics). Put em all in the same automix group and set your priorities. Luckily, you put all your mics on channels 1-8 (the only channels available to use automix on the X32). Makes a big difference when you’ve got more than 1 speaking mic on at a time. The automix not only “ducks” the speakers that aren’t speaking at the time.. but it consolidates the output of each automix channel, making the livestream audio more consistent. Without automix, every mic channel you turn on adds approx 3db to the mix.. but with automix, all the automix channels share the same 3db… So if you have a panel of 4 speakers and they all laugh at the same time, the levels don’t skyrocket! I leave automix enabled all the time for my speaking mics, even if they’re not being used.
26:11 In the mixer preferences, turn on "DCA Groups" under "Mute System" and you'll save yourself and your team the headache of trying to figure out why an unmuted channel isn't passing audio because the DCA was muted.
I like the content for the church front. You really inspire us a lot. 🙏🏽 Thank you
We use some busses to group channels before they go to the P16s, for example we have a tracks channel or a TB channel. You can also use it to have one channel for different instruments, for example we have a saxophone player that never plays when the electric guitar is playing. So they share a group and you don't need to change any routing for that.
You can turn buses into sub groups on the PC by selecting sends on any channel and selecting "Sub Group" from the list at the top.
Rather than using a 25 foot USB Cable. I use a USB to CAT6 extender. Way more reliable and you can move the laptop or iPad anywhere you need it for tracks.
I used to have the Producer, went to the M32R as soon as I could.
Pro Tip on Gates, without purchasing any additional gear: most consoles allow the ability of filtering, or keying, your Gate. This does NOT affect the signal input or output. It tells the gate what frequencies in the signal to look for and/or exclude. Many consoles also have the ability to Listen or Solo the filter--do NOT Listen or Solo live during an event. I use this function on drums, talkbacks and sometimes vocals.
Great video as always!
Holy 🙏 cables 😮 seeing this 7months later
Yes SIRRR🎉🎉
Loving the videos.. but can you ask the camera guy to be a little less Zak Snyder with the focus depth 😀
PATCHING 1-to-1: @ 18:48 through 19:09
- I assume you are meaning - Stage Box-1 goes to Mixer-1; SB-1 to Mx-2; etc
- If the Mixer is 1 to 16 (or 32) Left-to-Right; then why Place/Number the Stage in the Opposite Direction from the Sound Engineer’s Perspective?
Hey man i have the same mixer at my church and wanted to know what the software is called at 19:32 , i also have cakewalk with that real time pitch correction from wave (that i still need to test) and connected the mixers ethernet to a router to control it from a ipad, also do all the these softwares comunicate with the mixer with usb to the mixer with no DANTE network???
Good video ❤
I wonder if you could put floor boxes / floor pockets into your ~6in stage.
you should order cables that are the right lengths
24:06 How can you get separate outputs for the individual kits.
walls are slapping back there - of course sound treatment is probably in the future there. A nice low removeable false wall to cover up the stage box areas would make it nice. With all the open channels, go with two crowd mics to give IEMs a stereo feel for those mixing IEMs as stereo. It also would allow the stream mix to be wider, of course.
speaking bus looks too low for a level broadcast - we have to +10 dB for speakers to keep to the same level of the band (ie. the listener does not have to change volume for speakers to hear them at a tolerable/equal level to the band). These videos always forget to educate the viewer about mixing in the Effects returns into their broadcast stereo feed. This is why so many church broadcasts sound and feel "mono" and centered.
Is there a dependable musical equipment store, that will sell wireless vocal gear to a person of color.
So during a service, are you managing DCAs/channels for your mix & leaving the busses for band & vocals alone?
than you for the video, one question, if you use bus 13 as a input channel bus, don't you then loose that effect send?
Bro lmk if you need help with anything I'm about 30 mins away from there
Hello,can you travel to kenya
Hi Jake, it's okay to use a Linked(stereo bus) for Streaming, not using any matrix rght?
If you're not using anyother mix bus, like Jake was showing, for the livestream mix then YES - all you would need is a stereo mixbus
You can but if you want more control - using multiple stereo buses combined into a final Matrix allows for more options. And don't forget putting a limiter on the final matrix for best level of broadcast. But you can use the matrix Dynamics (compressors) setup with a 20:1 or 100:1 ratio in order to act much like a limiter. This video by Jake could have gone a lot further than what was shown. But it definitely appears he took this church from where they were to a level above. A few more levels to go from here.
Can anyone do a full streaming set up in a church in Rockland county, NY?
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Might sound silly, but are there optogate for wireless mics? Looking forward for an answer.
They are not available for wireles
so wait, have you considered ordering cables that are the proper length, so you can clean it up a bit more? :P
He said in the video he would order them. I would like to challenge Jake to make cables to exact lengths (just a little bit of soldering). You can make things look great with that.
Was thinking the same thing no matter how much he said it lol
is it worth to sacrifice bus 13(FX 1) for speaking bus?
To use as a matrix source for broadcast you need speech mics in a bus.
Imagine Jesus bring this whole sound system in the past days 😂😂
I thought he was at a different church
He is helping this church as they are apart of the Worship Accelerated Program
@@jedd1 This is a good example of many small churches who struggled or got by with whatever they could put together. Though the team will need training and reasons "why" things were done the new way. Rudiments of mixing, setup of signal routes, etc. I think many times I see posts on Facebook saying "we're not technical so..." - but I challenge people to actually learn something new and enjoy the process of education - learn to become an autodidact and thrive.
@@johnmcvicker6728 Agree